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All current 989 Devs, PLEASE READ!

I've been a "watcher" too long in this community. It's time to contribute back what I can.
I have a server doing nothing, and I'd love to waste as much bandwidth as I can.
If you're a developer for a ROM, and you'd like to have PHP, FTP, perl, sql, etc support, please reply to this thread or message me directly, and I'd be more than happy to get things set up for you ASAP. This is a new device, with a fantastic development community, and I think every developer deserves a chance for success. An email address, along with a website will help accomplish this for determined individuals. I don't plan on ever letting go of the domain names, or the server that I have.
Cheers you guys.
P.S. > Also, if someone wouldn't mind helping keep this thread active by posting articles or links to publishers with books available to teach me how to develop, that would be fantastic. I know this fits a little closer with "General", but its important, I think, that developers get involved in this, because of the huge possibility of misinformation.
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Great idea.
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Here's a good article to get started, from the man himself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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Good idea +1

I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general, because now it is probably never going to be read by the developers. If by any chance you know someone who is developing roms for the sgsii, or how to get ahold of people who are, i would love to spearhead this project and get their hosting up asap. I would love to have a website for your rom, a central hub for tools, resources, and links, but i dont have any of the web development knowledge or background to even know what cms software would work best. Ive installed hundreds of vbulletin boards back in the day (when pirating vbulletin and ipb was fun). I know how to use cpanel very well, how to modify apache and php settings, and how to setup mysql, but i guess ive been out of the loop too long. Help me out guys. Lets get a website going for these awesome developers.
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Awesome +1
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Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).

cellularticulate said:
Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).
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If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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xsteven77x said:
If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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I think I'm going to need to install some sort of software on my server to host the downloads. Then the guides and descriptions all fall into place. I'm just not sure. I think it'd be a good idea.

I suggest posting on skyrockets (I727 sister device nearly identical) forum as well, in order to really stir interest...
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cellularticulate said:
I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general,
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you might have not noticed, but the DEVs do read the General forum as well
in fact we keep asking people to keep the comments on General, unless they are of development value, then they should reply back to the DEV topic
but as usual newbies never listen

close thread, no longer needed

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He posted something earlier that he was leaving xda and wouldn't say the reason. But that it's deeper than we think and it has nothing to do with the users. He said to follow him on google+ but I couldn't find his account on his xda page.
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Great WTF are we going to do now!
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XDA is deleting any questions about this too... Stay classy guys
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He attacked me personally when I was trying to complement someone other than him in his thread... He then went on to delete my subsequent replies because they made him look bad... I'll miss his ROMs but certainly not him!

Rapalax said:
He attacked me personally when I was trying to complement someone other than him in his thread... He then went on to delete my subsequent replies because they made him look bad... I'll miss his ROMs but certainly not him!
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may have jumped the gun posting this....believe i had a misunderstanding myself. the threads are back, likely just some cleaning up to do.
that being said, i've never seem tdj post anything that spoke poorly of his character. i've 3 kids & i'm sure i wouldn't have his patience & temperament dealing with what gets directed at him around here. and i'll agree with you on one thing...i would miss his roms if they were no longer available
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[Q] Looking to port

I've found quite a few guides and tutorials for porting roms, but still kinda confused :what:. Would love to port some crazy roms to our phones. Heck, I would love to cook a rom too, but it all seems overwhelming :banghead:. Don't exactly know where to start, even though I already know about Chef Central. Is there any guides that describe things with easy to understand processes? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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Take a look at the links here, not necessarily porting but they come into play with anything android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941195
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Noobs, trolls and Know-it-alls......

Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.

What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.

Aerowinder said:
So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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jenaltals said:
That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.

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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1

scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.

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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
Wood

To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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djtheraven said:
I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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djtheraven said:
The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?

algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.

So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.