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Devs, n00bs, seniors, everyone. Please calm down.
N00bs..read before you post. This is a big cause to recent drama. I read a thread today and the same question was asked and answered on like3 straight pages... this is not called for.
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
Everyone else please don't fight and make things worse. Help the n00bs with links to forum rules and such.
I make all these mistakes too. But we need to fix it. We are losing our community.
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I'll add to this a bit if you don't mind. Any noobs feel free to pm me whatever the question may be and I will try to help. There is no sense starting a new thread because 99%of the time the question has been answered and i honestly I like to help. I don't have time to develop so this is my attempt to give back to a community I got a lot out of. I may not have your answer but will most likely be able to send you in the right direction and knipp is extremely helpful and knowledgeable as well. I personally don't care but don't post a thread like help plz I bricked my phone in the dev section unless you have a pair of flame retardant pants. Look bottom line is I'm here to help if anyone needs it
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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knipp21 said:
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
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This. It's extremely refreshing when a dev spends good time creating a ROM for a phone. It's nice to be handed a ROM that has been tested and is essentially bug free. I praise the guys that do that, and the guys that stick to their work. Doing it for fun rather than for money.
Of course I'm not expecting a good ROM to fall into our laps, I do like to follow projects from start to finish just as long as the dev(s) are working solely on that project - Like Cyanogen.
I agree about posting ROMs that are fully tested.. but then only 10 or so get to enjoy the ROM until it's stable. It's nice having everyone give feedback because 100 testers is better than 10. But I 100% agree with you, we need to get this community back on track, and we as users can help indefinitely.
We need to remember, not too long ago we we n00bs. I didn't even know what an .apk was. Now I know how to edit and decompile .apks.
Let's help to make this a fun and sharing community again.
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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Great idea. I'm in a radar class all week so I can't do it but if anyone wants to that would be awesome. I hope our mod will sticky it.
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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oxlong27 said:
Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Include the fact you can't use sense programs on aosp roms. And other stuff lol
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Haha ill put that in bold. Hlp plzzz flashed tiamat on skyraider and i can haz no wifi. Hahahahahahah
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Yes, you have to wipe.
Hey guys im not gonna get to starr the all in one thread tonight my son is crazy sick and cant sleep. Ill start tomorrow night, meanwhile shoot me some suggestions on what you think should be included
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"Another update?? Getting tired of flashing...."
"Another leak, just flashed fcwhatever!!"
"Was just getting used to v1.3."
Is it hard to act grateful to devs work? Any devs want to comment and say yes these comments in every thread are fken annoying
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"Another update?? Getting tired of flashing...."
"Another leak, just flashed fcwhatever!!"
"Was just getting used to v1.3."
Is it hard to act grateful to devs work? Any devs want to comment and say yes these comments in every thread are fken annoying
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Sounds like your complaining... Yes, there are a few users that are having a hard time keeping up with all the leaks and updates.
I for one am not complaining about all these different ROMs, I am grateful for everything these devs have made possible for the community. Just because a new ROM is out that does not mean you have to be the first person to flash it just to be up to date. I'm still using FC22 as my daily driver, for some reason I still have FC07 modem no matter what I think of doing. Do you see me starting a new thread to cry about it? No.
Stop feeding the trolls and all the negativity in this community, if you want to do so then get another phone.
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Mattix724 said:
Sounds like your complaining... Yes, there are a few users that are having a hard time keeping up with all the leaks and updates.
I for one am not complaining about all these different ROMs, I am grateful for everything these devs have made possible for the community. Just because a new ROM is out that does not mean you have to be the first person to flash it just to be up to date. I'm still using FC22 as my daily driver, for some reason I still have FC07 modem no matter what I think of doing. Do you see me starting a new thread to cry about it? No.
Stop feeding the trolls and all the negativity in this community, if you want to do so then get another phone.
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Complaining? More like telling people to shut their faces unless they have something good to say. You have a disgustingly twisted idea of complaining, sounds like you're one of those trolls.
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Frequent updates is reason to applaud devs
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Someone needs a lesson in sarcasm. Of all the things you could get upset about on this site, you picked this?
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Complaining? More like telling people to shut their faces unless they have something good to say. You have a disgustingly twisted idea of complaining, sounds like you're one of those trolls.
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1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
Mods......please delete this useless thread.
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Mods......please delete this useless thread.
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In b4 lock...
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IB4L ... I see some people who are gonna end up in an Arizona prison before too long! lol
Rofl
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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This type of language seems uneccessary
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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You sir deserve a huge infraction for this response. It was completely unnecessary
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You sir deserve a huge infraction for this response. It was completely unnecessary
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I threw you a thanks ... not for anything you said in your post (which I also agree with), but because I agree, Stargate does in fact rule! lol
IB4L with nachos
I was especially impressed with the use of ****whore *****.
You know someone needs to create a sarcasm font, it could save a lot of misunderstandings.
No. Just hate ppl like you.
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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Wow
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Gordon Ramsay said:
No. Just hate ppl like you.
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Are you THE Gordon Ramsay???
Specialksg1 said:
I threw you a thanks ... not for anything you said in your post (which I also agree with), but because I agree, Stargate does in fact rule! lol
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LOL. Glad we're both on the same page. I think....
Lots of immature answers here. Can't wait to see more people get their honest opinions deleted while rampant boo-hooing and name calling continue.
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Lots of immature answers here. Can't wait to see more people get their honest opinions deleted while rampant boo-hooing and name calling continue.
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Nope.
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Hi everyone!
Some of you may know my virtual identity because I try to answer a lot of questions that people have in this forum. Anyways I moved on to the sensation (I know it's older but development is amazing) because my screen was terrible even after replacements and even though our development is starting to pick up (thanks to our amazing devs here) the phone itself has caused me to move on.
Back to the point, in the sensation forum, they have this sticky that I think helps tremendously with keeping order, preventing flaming, etc. the link is below and I think it would help if something like that was put here as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194325
Farewell and thanks to community, Allgamer, raverx3x,m&s, Eugene, racing1399, whitehawx, tdj, and others I'm missing out!
Can we do this? The flaming is more than a handful of usual suspects.
I like this.
To many kids on xda it reminds of being in high-school, and I don't like it.
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I like this too!
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Unfortunately this probably won't happen. But I couldn't agree more, this would be a step in the right direction.
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I would be beyond happy if this was implemented and worked in our forums. Thanks for posting this. Give me a little bit of hope.
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I wish this was implemented
As well as a ban on anymore bounty threads
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clninja said:
I wish this was implemented
As well as a ban on anymore bounty threads
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Bounty threads brought us raver, who is working on aosp ics, and is damn close. Bounty threads can go either way. Can't forget about Eugene either, he's done some great things for us.
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capcanuck said:
Bounty threads brought us raver, who is working on aosp ics, and is damn close. Bounty threads can go either way. Can't forget about Eugene either, he's done some great things for us.
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I agree that we have had some successful bounty threads....however...more are not needed..we have bought enough devs
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Unlikely to happen but would certainly be a good thing.
Inb4theguiltypostandactlikeitsnotthem.
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Ye cool idea
TDJ's Dev threads should all be visible again.
Also, for all those looking for it, here is a link to TDJ's G+ page: https://plus.google.com/110028656953160917856/posts
Please do not start any more threads on this matter - feel free to use this thread to rant, complain or whatever but any other threads will be deleted to keep the section tidy.
edit: just to be clear though, I'm not promising to answer any questions - I'm not going to comment here, it's just a replacement/substitute for the multitude of threads that were popping up on this matter.
Thank you for restoring the threads.
I'm not here to get myself in trouble and being as I am relatively new to the site I wanted to ask one question and make one comment.
Comment: Out of 104 replies, 52 people are using TDJ's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681221
With that being said:
Question: Is it a common practice to remove such work without notice or an explanation? I know we are all human and emotions come into play and by all means I am not questioning the actions of any mod but maybe, based on the comment above, things should be handled better in the future. Just a suggestion.
Why doesn't dark side evolution do my laundry?
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Thank you for putting his stuff back up. I for one appreciate his work (amongst many others) and appreciate him standing up for what is right when we see people doing wrong. I've seen other devs insult his work (comparing roms) and not once have I seen him stoop to their levels. I for one would like to know why this happened and is anyone else treated like this? I hope there are no agendas or favortism on this board. Punish the ones who do wrong or steal, and not the hard workers. There's my rant and I know I'm not important enough to be responded to and don't expect it. Again thanks for placing his great work back on this forum
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Why were they deleted?
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What's going on?
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It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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I totally agree. Who stole his rom?
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xUnreachablex said:
It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Unfortunately there is a reason people move their work to Rootzwiki and don't deal with XDA. I make no preference on any side of any matter. I know TDJ called out a so called Dev for using his work for their ROM and they seemingly did nothing before posting but not sure what other drama came out from that. I don't think anyone here would doubt TDJ's dev abilities and if the mods keep their actions of punishing the real devs and not the kangers then XDA will become a ghost town i predict.
The people who suffer most are the end users, Devs don't have to do this and put their work here they are doing XDA a favor by doing so, it seems XDA needs a Mod overhaul . This has been the most pathetic excuse for a development section in any forum that I have ever been in and its not the DEVS 8 out of 10 times.
Is TDJ gone? Dam u xda you just keep running good devs out of here!!
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It's probably best if all disputes are handled through the mods or PM. Starting a war in any devs thread is frowned upon and you know how loyal crackflashers can be. You call a dev out and the people who enjoy their work are going to rage. This is just my view on what happened.
I would have done it the same way TDJ did so I understand why it went down like it did. I'm very glad he's sticking around, he's a huge asset to our community.
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Thank you for restoring TDJ's threads... and also thank you to TDJ for all of your hard work in creating some of the best ROMS on XDA. Without TDJ's work I can safely say that I wouldn't even be posting on XDA right now... keep up the great job.
And thanks again for BETA 07... I would post in the relevant thread but I don't have permissions to do so yet
:-/ XDA has made me sad as of late.....
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FOREVER RUNNING DARKSIDE!
Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1
scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
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