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Mods,
I think that the greater part of the XDA community would agree that with the release of Gingerbread and the recent 3.70 OTA we are going to be seeing a lot of clutter in the forums specifically the development forums. I myself have found that it is getting harder and harder each day to sort through all of the new stuff that the developers are putting out there for us. Would it be possible to have sub-forums in the development forum dedicated to AOSP Roms/kernels, another sub-forum for Sense Roms/kernels, and another sub-forum for modifications and hacks?
I feel like this would give the community a better opportunity at seeing everything that these developers put all their hard work into and would eliminate the clutter in the forum. Just a suggestion.
I agree with what you posted, but do not agree where you posted it. I never mention "wrong section" as some of the members tend to say it more than anything else, but i believe there is a suggestion sub-forum to this site.
itsallsubliminal said:
I agree with what you posted, but do not agree where you posted it. I never mention "wrong section" as some of the members tend to say it more than anything else, but i believe there is a suggestion sub-forum to this site.
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Sorry,
Just noticed that I posted this in the development section. I had two tabs open and thought that I was in the suggestions forum. Thanks
jhoffy22 said:
Sorry,
Just noticed that I posted this in the development section. I had two tabs open and thought that I was in the suggestions forum. Thanks
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can't say i've never fell victim to that
I like the idea.
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+1 to this!
I like this idea......
this is an excellent idea
I like this.
+1 This should be a must!
I hate u, that shoulda been my idea LOL
Seriously tho, this is a great suggestion.
+1
Hopefully this catches one of the mods eyes and we can get something in motion here. It's just been overwhelming lately scrolling through the development forum and trying to stay up to date on everything thats new. I know that it isn't very likely to happen, but to further organize things not only would a section dedicated to AOSP and sense Roms be beneficial, but also a sub-forum for there respective kernels.
Or maybe even a sticky with an alphabetical list with links to the rom threads?
Would be nice
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add me to the +1 for this idea.
great idea!
good idea.
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jhoffy22 said:
Moderators-Opinions?
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+1 this would be a great idea!!!!!!!!!!
So how can we get this thing set into motion?
Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.
A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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Step666 said:
What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.
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Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
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Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps
Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree
we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.
I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
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Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.
Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.
I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.
Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.
dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link
Seems like the general section is filled with too many questions which should be in the Q & A and topics about accessories which also has its own section. Most the other sections on XDA I have been a part of had been stricter on this and moved a lot of threads to the appropriate sections which helped clean up the clutter.
The forum clean up helps users who want to avoid these topics and also users who want to do a search within the appropriate area. Its better for everyone.
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Agreed
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Scythe024 said:
Seems like the general section is filled with too many questions which should be in the Q & A and topics about accessories which also has its own section. Most the other sections on XDA I have been a part of had been stricter on this and moved a lot of threads to the appropriate sections which helped clean up the clutter.
The forum clean up helps users who want to avoid these topics and also users who want to do a search within the appropriate area. Its better for everyone.
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If you want to avoid certain discussions...then don't click on them just to complain as you have. While you may feel this forum is cluttered some as opposed to the developer forums...others like myself don't. This isn't a place where people have to be a hard ass...it's the general section...not the developers section...and calling out the mods to move or merge topics just because you don't happen to like them is what gives this forum a bad reputation...
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Mac11700 said:
If you want to avoid certain discussions...then don't click on them just to complain as you have. While you may feel this forum is cluttered some as opposed to the developer forums...others like myself don't. This isn't a place where people have to be a hard ass...it's the general section...not the developers section...and calling out the mods to move or merge topics just because you don't happen to like them is what gives this forum a bad reputation...
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Hows it give the forum a bad reputation? Things like this drive others away and make it harder to navigate and do searches. I dont click on stuff I dont want to read. Every other XDA forum I have been a part of has been really good on putting things in the right sections or mods helped clean them up by moving them to the appropiate section. Why should this phones forum be so different? If your arguement was valid there wouldnt be sub sections for these topics.
Use the report option. If a thread is in the wrong section or a duplicate thread report that a mod close it or move it.
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What he ^^^^^^ said, since the Moderation team can not be all over, report button will bring us to the attention required. Thank you.
Took me all day to post a home screen, what I missed from an iPhone, post a picture, post my battery stats, post a benchmark....... BRB, have to post a doodle now.
Seriously.
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Scythe024 said:
Forum clean up?
Seems like the general section is filled with too many questions
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one more question, I probably live hundreds of miles away from you, where can I buy a note 2.
Really.
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Just saying it would be awesome to see someone take advantage of this huge screen and making it more efficient in going back and forth opening new apps and such in multiwindow or maybe even a hole new UI could help make this possible so that it's easier to manage and switch thru the open windows?
Am I the only one who thinks so or have I gone bananas?
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Regardless of the sanity of your request, this is not the place for it... and as such be prepared to have this moved/removed by a mod, of course not till several other people come in here to berate you.
In the future use the General or Q&A section for non-actual-development related threads.
Please move this thread!
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Whatever happened to needing a minimum of 10 posts before you could post in a dev section?
daveid said:
Regardless of the sanity of your request, this is not the place for it... and as such be prepared to have this moved/removed by a mod, of course not till several other people come in here to berate you.
In the future use the General or Q&A section for non-actual-development related threads.
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I think this is a perfectly legitimate place for his post. This is a Q&A section, he has several concerns about the GN2 and as a result he is asking whether he has gone bananas...
mscion said:
I think this is a perfectly legitimate place for his post. This is a Q&A section, he has several concerns about the GN2 and as a result he is asking whether he has gone bananas...
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He posted it in the dev section
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He posted it in the dev section
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Sorry. My bad.