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preferred rom?

I see the bonsai and the viper are the 2 most common ones? (I based it off the replies to the threads lol)
just a new rooter looking for a good rom.
anyone have any advantages over another?
one thing I'd like is speed, battery life and a gps fix. obviously stable is good too
thanks!
oh, and ease of install is a big plus too
i just loaded up clockwork now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714
try this rom, its the fastest

Is there any way to put up like a warning screen that only DEVELOPERS should be posting new threads in the development forum? Like when you click new topic something pops up and makes you do something annoying that forces the user to actually read that their inane question does not belong in the development section?

ericizzy1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714
try this rom, its the fastest
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you got me

muyoso said:
Is there any way to put up like a warning screen that only DEVELOPERS should be posting new threads in the development forum? Like when you click new topic something pops up and makes you do something annoying that forces the user to actually read that their inane question does not belong in the development section?
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well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?

razorseal said:
well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?
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hey op, look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771590
and this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=716

razorseal said:
well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?
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NO you are WRONG! Seriously this is getting old! Read the forum rules before you post! Post in the GENERAL section!
Mods please get rid of this!

so where should I post my root questions? in general?
I understand I shouldn't start threads here, so a place to ask my questions would be nice. I was told general is not for root questions
thanks

Y e s, g e n e r a l

razorseal said:
so where should I post my root questions? in general?
I understand I shouldn't start threads here, so a place to ask my questions would be nice. I was told general is not for root questions
thanks
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Unlike android central, root questions go in general here.
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razorseal said:
I see the bonsai and the viper are the 2 most common ones? (I based it off the replies to the threads lol)
just a new rooter looking for a good rom.
anyone have any advantages over another?
one thing I'd like is speed, battery life and a gps fix. obviously stable is good too
thanks!
oh, and ease of install is a big plus too
i just loaded up clockwork now.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904787

Please post questions in Q&A section.

Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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marcusant said:
Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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Dont say that... we try to help everyone we can, and we try to make the Rom better for YOU. I normally keep my nose out of things but this is going to far. Say what you want about the Rom or me, but our team tries really hard for YOU. They're good guys.

BThomas22x said:
Dont say that... we try to help everyone we can, and we try to make the Rom better for YOU. I normally keep my nose out of things but this is going to far. Say what you want about the Rom or me, but our team tries really hard for YOU. They're good guys.
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Agreed, your ROM is amazing. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the design of the user interface and notification bar...the gradients are too harsh and it doesn't blend well. Keep up the awesome work, just please try to improve that a little bit
Also if you're ever in need of someone to help out with designing the UI, I'm down.

marcusant said:
Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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Are you serious?
What are you referring to? The whole EXT4 dealie?
Last time I checked there's a few other ROMs with EXT4.

br//0k3/n said:
Agreed, your ROM is amazing. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the design of the user interface and notification bar...the gradients are too harsh and it doesn't blend well. Keep up the awesome work, just please try to improve that a little bit
Also if you're ever in need of someone to help out with designing the UI, I'm down.
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Surely... go to http://02.chat.mibbit.com then select efnet and the Chanel is #viper. Come in, meet the guys and let's see what you got... we need another themer.
Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.

I have the fastest ROM out right now,Frankenstein FROYO EXT4,I fel like Im going aroung advertising this thing,but its true.
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ecooce said:
I have the fastest ROM out right now,Frankenstein FROYO EXT4,I fel like Im going aroung advertising this thing,but its true.
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And your proof is? ...people want results, not just someone's word.
Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.

I have Cmod and while it has a bug or two, is definitely the "fastest"

Tidying-up/over-hauling the stickies etc

Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.

A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?

Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.

support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
sent from my cm7 defy...

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What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?

I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
crakeron said:
Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
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I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.

Step666 said:
Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.

Step666 said:
Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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Development Threads. Please keep comments in general.

A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
Racing19969 said:
Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps

Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree

we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.

I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.

The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
suaverc118 said:
Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks

It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.

jim93 said:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.

Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.

degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes

Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.

I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?

ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.

I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.

Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.

dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link

Best Mods, Best Themes, Best Cool New Stuff

This thread is for the community and I to share some awesome mods and everything else that some people might have missed, especially if we aren't able to keep up with the developer community since there's so much! This way it can all be in one place!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus in need because it's running out of OXYG3N 2!

Not to be rude...but I'm curious how this will be different from the forum topics already organizing posts about mods, themes, apps, accessories, etc.?
I suspect I'd actually start to find it irritating if I had to look in this thread as well as the existing forum topics to see what's new in these areas.
Do you have some plan in mind to keep this from being redundant with these other topics?
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jonstrong said:
Not to be rude...but I'm curious how this will be different from the forum topics already organizing posts about mods, themes, apps, accessories, etc.?
I suspect I'd actually start to find it irritating if I had to look in this thread as well as the existing forum topics to see what's new in these areas.
Do you have some plan in mind to keep this from being redundant with these other topics?
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way to go for reviving a dead thread (or should i say thread-attempt) :good:

rayiskon said:
way to go for reviving a dead thread (or should i say thread-attempt) :good:
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ah well...didn't see it the first time around. My bad...

I just meant it would be all in one place for people to say: go check this and that out, it's pretty cool
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[Q] ROMS

Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?

Have you even looked through the forums!!! Stop asking about ETA'S!!!
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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From what I've been told we they are really close, but again they aren't going to put anything out that doesn't work fully so as for a real time frame, when everything works and they feel it's ready for mainstream consumption

Why don't you look in the dev forums. That's where it'll be posted
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...

Enzopreme said:
dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
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It's nice to know that you guys are hear to help. I posted this in the Q&A you know since it is a question. It seems that you have forgotten you were once new at this as well.

Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.

[READ] Stop asking about JB ROMs and anything related to JB updates..

jbrooks58 said:
Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem

Dqm56 said:
questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.

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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.

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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.

jbrooks58 said:
Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses

Haha...
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Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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I see both sides of this coin, since i kinda just went through the same thing. I understand that he was just asking a question, but on the other hand there are probably over 10 discussions with the answer he is looking for.
But on the other hand, you are newer than me even, so welcome to the community, try to read and search before asking questions, and try not to double post either, just edit your last post if no one has replied.

Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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The name calling is uncalled for, especially when you're taking advantage of the work that these people are putting in. This community has enough negativity as it is, and we certainly don't need any more.
Egos aside we're all on the same team here. Either appreciate the work or give constructive advice/suggestions. Enough of the insulting.
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Also, alot of the reason we only have 2 roms was because we were stuck on ICS. Not many people want to develop on an older OS, expecially when we knew there was an update right around the corner. So it was the waiting game. Now that JB has been released, and the source code has been dropped, this place will start lighting up. This is one of the best phones out right now, and it will start getting attention. So for now, research, read, contribute what you can, and enjoy the ride.

In all honesty none of those thread touch on how close we are to being AOSP, so his question is relevant. In every thread you get the same answer, either "we have already answered that question", "when it is fully ready to go", "were still testing things so it's going to be a few more weeks". I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining, And am very happy with what you guys are doing, but if we had a little better information about what is going on and what the problems are maybe people would stop posting so much.

If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.

_Epic said:
If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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Do that, or msg me at [email protected]. I have most of the Debs contact info, and I usually stay up to date.
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