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WM6 dropping USB when put in sleep mode

I have upgraded to WM6 using the AT&T official release. WM5 used to maintain my ActiveSync connection when I turned the screen off (by momentarily depressing the power button - sleep mode). Now WM6 drops the USB connection. I performed a hard reset - no change. I reinstalled WM6 - no change.
It appears that for applications, the 'sleep mode' is acting more like a power-down mode (just doesn't reboot when you power up again).
>>>Follow-up - I tested the bluetooth connectivity and it appears to stay up during sleep mode. So it looks like just USB is affected when going to sleep.
>>>Follow-up #2 - Media Player continues to play (and the speaker is active) when in sleep.

This is normal behavior. Have you experienced otherwise in the past?

Probably normal as when its plugged in via usb its powered and doesn't need to go into sleep mode.

Did you guys not even read his original post at all? He had it working with WM5 and now it's not. Which would mean it is NOT normal. Not to mention you can still use sleep mode while having it plugged into a USB port so I don't know why the last poster would say it doesn't need sleep mode. Of course it doesn't need sleep mode. It's being charged. That doesnt mean he wouldnt still want the screen to turn off while it's plugged in. I charge my phone right next to my bed if I had that damn bright screen on while I tried to sleep I'd go crazy. Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
Edit: For the record mine disconnects activesync when in sleep mode as well. I don't remember if it did so in WM5 or not but I'm pretty sure it did cause I recall being a bit surprised when it disconnected when I hit the power button. Now we just need some real help with real answers.

surrept said:
Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
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And your post really helped to solve this "problem", didn't it.
I'm sure he just didn't want a program to turn his screen off, as anybody with half a brain could find a freeware cab to do that. How about searching google for screen off pocket pc freeware

Call down surret... calm down. No need to take it so personal.
Just because it works in WM5 does not mean it will act the same in WM6. I was not giving a definite answer about sleep mode but maybe an idea as to why.
When I plug my phone into the wall it still charges fine in sleep mode. When I plug my phone into my computer it charges in sleep mode but the usb does not stay connected. I was suggesting that since sleep mode is to save the battery life that when your connected the battery is not being used and hence not really required. Also in sleep mode in order to save battery it needs to turn off as much as possible. It looks like the USB connection is one of them.
There are other options like a screen toggle as per the post above and there is also a setting that you can use to turn off the backlite when the device is plugged in and not put it into sleep mode. I think thats in the power saver settings somewhere.
I do not know of a registry hack or anything to make it work the way you want but I am letting you know that it seems like thats the way it works on WM6.

Thanks to all who responded. I'm relieved to learn that this is normal for WM6.
Since WM5 allowed me to sleep while charging/syncing and WM6 didn't, I was afraid that my 8525 was developing problems.
I will simply have to change my behavior to accomodate WM6. After all, if all WM6 did was add support for SDHC cards, it would justify the inconvienence.

One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.

Knockz said:
One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.
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That was one of the annoying things - when put to sleep when it is in the cradle, the 8525 would wake up after a short period, reconnect, and resync.
So even when you put it to sleep it wouldn't stay asleep (if connected to a powered on PC). If the PC is powered off the 8525 stays asleep until you manually wake it up or a event occurs (incomming call, reminder, scheduled backup, etc).

Turning off and on should we ?

I know it sounds silly, But are we supposed to turn androide phones off?
The reason i ask this is becuase 1# the alarm wont go off if you turn phone off so you need to enable flight mode.
And 2nd# when i turn off the phone and turn it back on it will default back to normal theme.
so just wondering really if i am right or wrong?

Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....so it's best to leave it in stand-by (screen off). As for alarm clocks, you can always disable them in the clock....I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the flight mode....that's generally used to disable wireless communications and I am unaware of its effects on the alarm clock.
The phone should be able to return to your custom theme after you turn it back on....I wonder why yours does that...

As an aside, I don't think turning the phone on and off reboots everything!
I had a situation where on startup the phone was really slow and unresponsive, like something was using lots of CPU cycles. Eventually after a few minutes the phone just rebooted.
Turning it off and on did not fix this, however pulling the battery out DID fix it. So pulling the battery must reset something that a simple switch off/on doesn't.

I only turn mine off if flashing a new ROM, wanting to remove the SD card. Otherwise it's on 24/7

I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?

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Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.

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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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Agreed.
I keep mine on 24/7 though. Only time it is off, is when a new ROM is being flashed or I remove the SD card - so, hardly ever.

I'm sure I turned my phone off once (or maybe it was my old phone) and the alarm went off still... was on an aeroplane too so I secretly tried to shush it up!

I turn it off every night...have done to all my phones... cant see anything wrong in this. The phone works fine, it's off for about 7 hrs, yes I have to reset a few things here and there ... but It's fine.. sync all my google stuff in the morning .. fab .
It's always charged at work in the day , so may be the battery is running low, but as I plug it in every day .. I dont see it ...
The wifi is also on at work .

Lothaen said:
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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possible. My phone does the same, when I turn it off it returns to the normal livewallpaper instead of my selected one.
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound

chrismast said:
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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I agree - or just ignore the person and laugh evilly while they try and call you!

Hibernate?

Quite a few smartphones out there support hibernate. HTC is amongst the manufacturers that makes it possible to completely shutdown the phone and write all memory to a file on the nand which is put back in memory when the phone is turned back on. This way it only takes a few seconds to go from off to fully functioning, practically the same thing computers can do for years. Now I wonder if this could be done with the Defy (and possibly any other Android phone for that matter). I don't know how HTC does it but I guess it's pure software as in not an integrated Android feature. And if they can do it I'm sure some of the XDA guys can do it. Or is that wishful thinking??

Well if you want to save battery, then there are certain task killers which actually closes all the tasks which are not in use but running (excluding ignore list) and this way whenever the screen is turned off, it closes those tasks, that improves the battery. If that is what you meant?
I found this on google:
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/hibernate_ctp.html

No what I mean is in the event you have to shut down the phone entirely that all content in the RAM gets written to nand (or maybe sd). This way when it boots again it simply restores its RAM within seconds, effectively cutting boot time to only a few seconds instead of 40. Compare this with Windows' hibernate function for the pc.
Turns out HTC calls it Fast Boot. It's not a real hibernation function because if you put the phone to sleep with it and remove/replace the battery it would perform a normal cold boot. So it's more of a very low power sleep mode, guess more like a computer's S3 sleepstate where only the RAM stays powered while all the rest (cpu, chipset, video, audio etc) is turned off.

Sounds like a very interesting option, very curious if this would be possible on a defy.

This would be a nice feature.
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Totally pointless if you ask me. Just enable airplane mode if you want epic battery life?

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Totally pointless if you ask me. Just enable airplane mode if you want epic battery life?
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Or turn it all the way off and save even more power.
There are also plenty of 'smarter' ways to safe power, such as scheduling the handset to automatically disabling 3G overnight etc, which don't even require you to switch the handset off.

Airplane mode still leaves the cpu switched on. The purpose of that mode is to be still able to use the device without a working connection.
Say you are away from home and didn't bring the charger. Now the battery is almost dead. Then a very low power sleep mode would come in handy because it boots in only a few seconds and after a few more seconds you can turn it 'off' again. Fast and snappy, hardly using any power. And this is XDA so another extremely valid reason to have it is simply because we can. For pc's it's everyday technology so why not make it available on our pocket sized super computers?

I always disable hibernate in my PC.

Actually me too but I do use the sleep mode quite often with my laptop. Works great when you move your laptop a lot to other places but don't want long boot times. It could actually survive days in this mode on a full battery.

[Q] Desktop Dock - How do I stop the Desk Clock launching?

I have just purchased the official Galaxy SII Desktop Dock. I'm new to Android but I have switched to using Launcher Pro as my launcher and I'm wondering if there is any way to stop the device switching over to the Samsung "Desk Clock" application when it is placed in the desktop dock. Every time I hit the Home button when the device is in the Dock, the Desk Clock application comes to front, rather than the default launcher. I prefer not to use the Desk Clock application.
In the manual for the Desktop Dock it states:
"You can set whether to launch the Desk Clock application on your phone when you connect a Samsung phone to the desktop dock. For more information about the Dock settings, see your phone user manual."​
I can't seem to find any reference to this. I'm hoping it's just my ignorance.

The only reference to "Dock Settings" I can find in the full user guide (from the Samsung website) doesn't say much:
Dock settings​● Audio output mode: Set to use the connected dock’s speaker when your device is connected to a car or desktop dock.
And that's it... no mention of the Desk Clock​

Thanks. That's exactly what I found.
There has to be some way to stop the home button from displaying this special mode when it is in the desktop dock.

Dock No-Op did the trick.
Should have spotted this before but I'm new to Android and still getting used to the fact that the Market has a lot more than I'm used to with my last phone, which was a Windows Mobile

Does that mean that it doesn't show that clock after some number of minutes of idle in the dock? Even with the brightness turned all the way down that thing is way to bright at night.

Have you tried Kaloer Clock...? It's the mutts, and you can customise it till the cows come home (inc your desired brightness....)

Great app really works and prevent to sleep the phone...the only question is: can I damage (burn out) pixels when using it whole night and every night?
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Great app really works and prevent to sleep the phone...the only question is: can I damage (burn out) pixels when using it whole night and every night?
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Which app...Kaloer Clock? You can set it to run in screensaver mode to prevent this....

To prevent what??? BTW when I woke up this morning SGS2 slept so the system still lock phone and turn off the screen even when I ticked prevent phone from sleep or something like this in kaloer settings...any suggestion???
edit: you're right!!! in screensaver mode the time is every two minutes or so changes position whoooo cant wait for dock...

Dark maps in Google Navagation??? in car dock mode
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Dock No-Op did the trick.
Should have spotted this before but I'm new to Android and still getting used to the fact that the Market has a lot more than I'm used to with my last phone, which was a Windows Mobile
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When I connect to my Car dock I get dark maps in Google Navagation???
How can I reset that to a normal light map?

I use the dock to charge the phone at night but the clock keeps coming on in the middle of the night by itself
id love to have this all the time but im really scared about burn in,
as it automatically changes position every two min is there a chance in burn in still?

treva23 said:
I use the dock to charge the phone at night but the clock keeps coming on in the middle of the night by itself
id love to have this all the time but im really scared about burn in,
as it automatically changes position every two min is there a chance in burn in still?
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....................anyone?

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....................anyone?
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You would only possibly get burn in if it were to stay put in the same position...I say possibly, because I'm sure the Sammy techies would've thought about this and tested for it because it is an obvious concern to have.
When the clock's screensaver mode kicks in though, the time moves every minute or two as you noted, so there will be zero chance of any burn in of the screen.
I use Kaloer Clock though, so I'm not sure about the standard Sammy desktop clock coming on by itself in the night...maybe it's a setting in there that makes it wake on the hour or something...don't know tbh, but it won't be doing any damage.

treva23 said:
....................anyone?
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Just push the sleep button and it wont come on.

wressus said:
Just push the sleep button and it wont come on.
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yea i push the sleep button but through the night the phone screen wakes when fully charged, as i am sleeping this means i cant put it back to sleep, therefore clock comes on after a while and thus for the rest of the night.
but i love the feature and would have no problem with it if not for burn in.
as for Willie_Heckerslyke's comments it is logical that sammy would have tested this as feature has been put on the phone.

Will having the S2 attached to the official dock all the time when being at home affect battery life?
Feel like spamming every dock thread with this question.

I don't think that it has a big affect on the battery. But the worst thing that could possibly happen is that you'll need a new battery in a year. So i wouldn't care about that
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I see, but how come the phone shows the popup "Battery is fully charged, remove it..." .. I mean, why even show it then?

I don't own a dock but i guess its the counter part of "your phone is fully charged. Unplug it"
I'm not sure but i guess it decalibrates the battery more if you charge it longer than necessary. And maybe reduces the max capacity of the battery a tiny bit every time. But this won't stop me feom charging my phone overnight.
Btw: i do have a very unhealthy charging habit.. i always put the phone next to my pillow without airplane mode or so.. if it catches fire while charging (i read that could theoretically happen) i've got a problem too.. :-/ so i should be more worried about my health than my battery's..
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Thanks for your help and sarcasm. I will from now on, charge it during the night, get up at 4 am unplug the phone and go back to sleep. Will have a glass of water next to me in case, as you said, a fire starts and I need to cool out.

Nexus 7 smart cover only works when Wifi is on?

I have tried 3 different Nexus 7 cases on my new Nexus 7 and for some reason the magnetic "screen turn on" feature only works when Wifi is on. Otherwise the screen will not turn on at all, and I will need to press the power button to have the screen turn on.
Has anyone else experienced this issue? At first I thought it was the case but no matter what case I try this issue still persists.

Mine does the same thing. I have a suspicion it is by design but who knows. Gonna do some more searching of threads
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Mine works ok with wifi off or on, but if you leave it lose the Access Point after you shut the cover, it won't magnetic wake. Also if you leave it over night, sometimes it won't wake the first thing in the morning. After the first wake it is fine. If I turn on Bluetooth, that behavior goes away.
You might want to try booting into safe mode and see if the same thing happens:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397282

The longer mine sleeps the longer it takes to wake it up. I set to toggle WiFi off when sleep. I will test how it works, when it stays on, though this should be a bug.
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don't wake up with magnetic
Same bug. I think
I will try to keep bluetooth on. (To save battery in sleep mode)

mine work on both states

yes, i found this bug from day1 (I bought the LTE just within 1 week and keep finding the scenario)
It didn't has this problem from previous Nexus 7.
If you turn on Wifi or BT, then your smart ON / OFF will work all the time.
I think may be these wireless communication setting causing the awake more sensitive. if all turn off, then N7 will deep sleeping and cannot awake by smart cover.

hkfriends said:
yes, i found this bug from day1 (I bought the LTE just within 1 week and keep finding the scenario)
It didn't has this problem from previous Nexus 7.
If you turn on Wifi or BT, then your smart ON / OFF will work all the time.
I think may be these wireless communication setting causing the awake more sensitive. if all turn off, then N7 will deep sleeping and cannot awake by smart cover.
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i have a inventcase cover and i try turn on bluetooth and wifi, and not work.