I have upgraded to WM6 using the AT&T official release. WM5 used to maintain my ActiveSync connection when I turned the screen off (by momentarily depressing the power button - sleep mode). Now WM6 drops the USB connection. I performed a hard reset - no change. I reinstalled WM6 - no change.
It appears that for applications, the 'sleep mode' is acting more like a power-down mode (just doesn't reboot when you power up again).
>>>Follow-up - I tested the bluetooth connectivity and it appears to stay up during sleep mode. So it looks like just USB is affected when going to sleep.
>>>Follow-up #2 - Media Player continues to play (and the speaker is active) when in sleep.
This is normal behavior. Have you experienced otherwise in the past?
Probably normal as when its plugged in via usb its powered and doesn't need to go into sleep mode.
Did you guys not even read his original post at all? He had it working with WM5 and now it's not. Which would mean it is NOT normal. Not to mention you can still use sleep mode while having it plugged into a USB port so I don't know why the last poster would say it doesn't need sleep mode. Of course it doesn't need sleep mode. It's being charged. That doesnt mean he wouldnt still want the screen to turn off while it's plugged in. I charge my phone right next to my bed if I had that damn bright screen on while I tried to sleep I'd go crazy. Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
Edit: For the record mine disconnects activesync when in sleep mode as well. I don't remember if it did so in WM5 or not but I'm pretty sure it did cause I recall being a bit surprised when it disconnected when I hit the power button. Now we just need some real help with real answers.
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Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
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And your post really helped to solve this "problem", didn't it.
I'm sure he just didn't want a program to turn his screen off, as anybody with half a brain could find a freeware cab to do that. How about searching google for screen off pocket pc freeware
Call down surret... calm down. No need to take it so personal.
Just because it works in WM5 does not mean it will act the same in WM6. I was not giving a definite answer about sleep mode but maybe an idea as to why.
When I plug my phone into the wall it still charges fine in sleep mode. When I plug my phone into my computer it charges in sleep mode but the usb does not stay connected. I was suggesting that since sleep mode is to save the battery life that when your connected the battery is not being used and hence not really required. Also in sleep mode in order to save battery it needs to turn off as much as possible. It looks like the USB connection is one of them.
There are other options like a screen toggle as per the post above and there is also a setting that you can use to turn off the backlite when the device is plugged in and not put it into sleep mode. I think thats in the power saver settings somewhere.
I do not know of a registry hack or anything to make it work the way you want but I am letting you know that it seems like thats the way it works on WM6.
Thanks to all who responded. I'm relieved to learn that this is normal for WM6.
Since WM5 allowed me to sleep while charging/syncing and WM6 didn't, I was afraid that my 8525 was developing problems.
I will simply have to change my behavior to accomodate WM6. After all, if all WM6 did was add support for SDHC cards, it would justify the inconvienence.
One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.
Knockz said:
One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.
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That was one of the annoying things - when put to sleep when it is in the cradle, the 8525 would wake up after a short period, reconnect, and resync.
So even when you put it to sleep it wouldn't stay asleep (if connected to a powered on PC). If the PC is powered off the 8525 stays asleep until you manually wake it up or a event occurs (incomming call, reminder, scheduled backup, etc).
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Is there an option/reg edit to enable WiFi in such a way that it is always on? I know that this drains the battery, but I was just wondering if I could let my PDA be online through WiFi while it is in sleep mode.
Cheers, E
I'm not sure but seem for me last week that the wifi was still on with my pda "powered" off BUT was connect to power supply ...
Any solutions
I wanted my wifi to stay on as well during sleep mode. Is this possible? I wanted it on for my VoIP.
my wifi turns off when switching to standby an when i reactivate the phone from standby it turns on again.
what i am doing is to turn of automatic standby switching to let wifi on. only thing is, that the battery runs dry very fast
any other ideas?
Lees said:
Is there an option/reg edit to enable WiFi in such a way that it is always on? I know that this drains the battery, but I was just wondering if I could let my PDA be online through WiFi while it is in sleep mode.
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PDA can not keep the Wi-Fi card on while sleeping. I have done lot of re-research in that area trying to switch on the wifi while in Sleep mode (building my first app rk-OSR). Technically while at ‘Sleep’ device is in ‘coma’ like state consuming very less power. Most of the applications which work in Sleep are not actually in sleep mode but in ‘Unattended’ mode. But it is not easy to get to unattended mode just by reg entries.
Since it would drain the battery so fast even if you manage the impossible, I would assume you would have to connect power cable and find a way to turn off the screen while connected to your wifi access point, may be the only option for you
Thanks dude. Guess I'll just have to use a VOIP phone at home, seams a bit handier then my PDA
Do you know if it's possible avoid turn-off wireless in stand-by???
I'd like to use VoIP with my Artemis (with hand-free and wireless connection), but it's impossible becouse after 1 minute (my pda is set to turn-off after 1 minute) the phone goes in stand-by mode and plugs off the wireless antenna.
Can I set "Always on" to wireless connection???
as yet i failed to accomplish this. all i can do so far is turn off the monitor to save a bit power. not the same as standby mode at all though.
I've got this tweak from somewhere, I'm not sure (maybe wiki page):
"AUTO DISCONNECT WHEN GPRS IDLE
you can edit the registry key ...
HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/CacheTime
Change from 600 to 60
it will disconnect after connection is idle for 60 seconds ...
There's also another key needed to be set. Otherwise, my PDA still has always on 3G data connection.
HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/SuspendResume
Change from ~GPRS! - Always on
to GPRS_bye_if_device_off - switch off after timeout"
It may help if you make the changes THE OTHER WAY ROUND. For you the desired value in 'HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/SuspendResume' is '~GPRS!' And the cache time value should be set to '0' (as infinite), if it doesn't work, set to a high value (i.e. 3600 - it means 1 hour).
I'm not sure it helps but it's worth to give it a try...
i guess he was talking about WLAN connection, not gprs or 3G. however, i might be wrong.
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i guess he was talking about WLAN connection, not gprs or 3G. however, i might be wrong.
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You are right, sorry. I've just misunderstood the problem, paying not enough attention to the first post...
So the only way is disable auto sandby and swith-off screen?
I thought a way to solve this situation could be keeping active OS during VoIP connection, just to avoid standby...
Its not enabled for a very good reason, it consumes so much power your device would last just a few hours before running out of power.
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Its not enabled for a very good reason, it consumes so much power your device would last just a few hours before running out of power.
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that is true. however, they could still give us the option
i think the real "problem" is that WLAN needs the OS running to work. the GSM unit is working differently.
Using S2U is a solution for me
Using S2U2 is the only solution for me.
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Using S2U2 is the only solution for me.
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It seems to be what I want, an application that avoid standby mode but preserve battery (setting lcd off, various device option off...)
I'll try it!
Thanks
Skype
I am not sure if this is still relevant, but in skype i think to have seen an option that says: "disable stand by mode when connected to Wlan" or something like that...
however of course the "batteryproblem" will still be there...
Please post your experiences with S2U2 once made, thanks!
Don't mean to "thread jack" but how can I tell the difference between the screen just being off and the phone being in standby mode?
I'm asking because I'm having a problem with my phone when I turn on Flight mode. Usually I turn on flight mode at night or in a meeting but I'm finding that the battery is still draining (rather quickly too) when I'm in flight mode and the device is off all night. If I'm at 40% batt level at 11:00pm and put the phone in Flight mode, by the morning about 6:30am, the battery is down to like 5%! And there are no programs running at all, screen is off, device is untouched all night. So when I saw this thread, I started to wonder if the phone was in really in standby or if the screen was just off.
Is S2U2 the option to keep the WLAN enabled when in standby mode?
I know i can disable going in to standby but would be nice if it can be done without this.
The power drain is most peoples concern but if i'm at work i have it plugged into the power anyway but would like to use one of the WLAN's here that isn't being monitored
Hey,
I've noticed my wifi keeps getting set to "off" seemingly at random. It works fine when it's on, however a few times a day, I'd find that the wifi switched itself off (even while in range of a working wifi signal, say even if left at home on a table all day) and I'd have to reenable it via the communications settings screen.
It's somewhat annoying and chews up my mobile internet when I don't noticed wifi's off.
Anyone else have a fix/noticed this?
Thanks !
It usually goes off when the device enters standby. Have a look into this thread for how to keep it on in standby mode. Beware that this might eat your battery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490
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It usually goes off when the device enters standby. Have a look into this thread for how to keep it on in standby mode. Beware that this might eat your battery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490
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Ah I read that but I think you misunderstand what I meant, I know it goes off during standby, however when it comes out of standby, WiFi should automatically renable itself, which it does - sometimes.
I believe I figured out what the problem is, whenever I plug the TP2 into my PC, it uses my PC's net connection(?) and disables WiFi. When I remove the phone form the PC, it doesnt restart Wifi.
Any fix on that?
I know it sounds silly, But are we supposed to turn androide phones off?
The reason i ask this is becuase 1# the alarm wont go off if you turn phone off so you need to enable flight mode.
And 2nd# when i turn off the phone and turn it back on it will default back to normal theme.
so just wondering really if i am right or wrong?
Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....so it's best to leave it in stand-by (screen off). As for alarm clocks, you can always disable them in the clock....I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the flight mode....that's generally used to disable wireless communications and I am unaware of its effects on the alarm clock.
The phone should be able to return to your custom theme after you turn it back on....I wonder why yours does that...
As an aside, I don't think turning the phone on and off reboots everything!
I had a situation where on startup the phone was really slow and unresponsive, like something was using lots of CPU cycles. Eventually after a few minutes the phone just rebooted.
Turning it off and on did not fix this, however pulling the battery out DID fix it. So pulling the battery must reset something that a simple switch off/on doesn't.
I only turn mine off if flashing a new ROM, wanting to remove the SD card. Otherwise it's on 24/7
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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Agreed.
I keep mine on 24/7 though. Only time it is off, is when a new ROM is being flashed or I remove the SD card - so, hardly ever.
I'm sure I turned my phone off once (or maybe it was my old phone) and the alarm went off still... was on an aeroplane too so I secretly tried to shush it up!
I turn it off every night...have done to all my phones... cant see anything wrong in this. The phone works fine, it's off for about 7 hrs, yes I have to reset a few things here and there ... but It's fine.. sync all my google stuff in the morning .. fab .
It's always charged at work in the day , so may be the battery is running low, but as I plug it in every day .. I dont see it ...
The wifi is also on at work .
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I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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possible. My phone does the same, when I turn it off it returns to the normal livewallpaper instead of my selected one.
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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I agree - or just ignore the person and laugh evilly while they try and call you!
I'm running Nova and CWM9 and whenever I connect the phone to USB or a charger the phone wakes up automatically forcing me to push the power button evey time I connect it to turn off the screen.
Anyone know if it's possible to disable this "feature"?
Thanks!
I believe stock does that too. That would be an interesting tweak if it's not already around! In terms of disabling, I'm not sure there is an option to do so.
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Confirm stock does it as does Apex; presumably it's set somewhere basic in ICS
Its in developer options. Untick 'stay awake' (if I understand the question!)
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And this is a problem why? Its just indicating to you that its plugged in properly and charging... the screen will time out and turn off a few seconds later.
Thanks for checking!
It is interesting that Google would assume everytime you plug the phone in (and unplug the phone) you would want it to wake up. Considering the short battery life these phones have, lots of charging would be commonplace and therefore lots of connecting/disconnecting without the intent to actually use the phone.
I could see giving people the option to have the phone do that - but for me the unplug wakeup is especially annoying because I have to turn it off everytime I go to put it in my pocket.
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Thanks for checking!
It is interesting that Google would assume everytime you plug the phone in (and unplug the phone) you would want it to wake up. Considering the short battery life these phones have, lots of charging would be commonplace and therefore lots of connecting/disconnecting without the intent to actually use the phone.
I could see giving people the option to have the phone do that - but for me the unplug wakeup is especially annoying because I have to turn it off everytime I go to put it in my pocket.
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Well considering by stock there's no charging LED indicator, turning the screen on momentarily to indicate a charging state is a smart idea.
Also, if you're plugging it in, why are you worried about the battery drained by keeping the screen on for 10 seconds? 10 seconds.
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And this is a problem why? Its just indicating to you that its plugged in properly and charging... the screen will time out and turn off a few seconds later.
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Well that's that I thought too, but sometimes it doesn't go back to sleep like it should and I'll notice my pocket getting quite warm pull it out and it's still on.
It could be a bug in the ROM I'm running (not going to sleep correctly all the time) but I don't remember my DINC doing that so I figured it was something that just needed to be disabled.
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Its in developer options. Untick 'stay awake' (if I understand the question!)
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Hmm, I did have this option enabled - mainly because when I connect it to the charger I do like it to stay on -prime example using Slacker Radio in my car when plugged into the dock.
Maybe I'll try a different ROM since it seems the problem isn't so much that I need to disable to wakeup on connect/disconnect but instead I need the sleep function to be more reliable so I don't have a mini oven on my pocket.
Thanks!
A great option for your car dock needs would be to introduce something like the app Tasker. Then you could leave the screen off but have tasker set it to constant on and load slacker when the Bluetooth connection to your car happens.
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