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MIUI Rom???

Hi!
Does anyone know if there are plans for MIUI to be released on the Motorola Defy? I am using this Rom on my Desire and would very much love to use it on my Defy aswell...
Cheers
Korbi

To be honest, i dont see it happening. I would love for this to be ported but i think the defy only has 2 devs and they are both working on other projects. Needless to say, i would also like to run that rom on my pos vibrant haha.
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That doesnt sound to promissing
But lets hope that the community of the defy will grow in the future - after all its a realy new device...
And MIUI lifts the "android-experience" to a hole new level, so i will keep my fingers crossed!

Miui is nice, I used to flash it on my desire, and it appears incredibly stable, except after a few days it gets buggy, fc's etc. I imagine it would be worse on the defy
It is quite a relief to just to have a phone that works without the constant, addictive - flash, restore, backup and wait for bugs and the next rom that may our may not fix them...process.
Froyo and gb would be great, but not essential- I am only missing flash (which barely worked anyway), jit, a few apps and my main want is the battery improvements in gb.

superfastmonkey said:
Miui is nice, I used to flash it on my desire, and it appears incredibly stable, except after a few days it gets buggy, fc's etc. I imagine it would be worse on the defy
It is quite a relief to just to have a phone that works without the constant, addictive - flash, restore, backup and wait for bugs and the next rom that may our may not fix them...process.
Froyo and gb would be great, but not essential- I am only missing flash (which barely worked anyway), jit, a few apps and my main want is the battery improvements in gb.
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On my Desire MIUI runs very smooth. But of course you have to keep in mind, that it is still in beta phase. The final version is suppossed to be released in january. Than there wont be weekly releases...
And I cant imagine MIUI not running on the defy...

What is the point of getting ICS now?

Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.

Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.

I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
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It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...

convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
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I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !

That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.

ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
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i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.

atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try

Coming to ICS Rom first time which is best?

Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.

rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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I like Calks (2) Roms...Either One and and right now Im runnin Mijjah 74's Goodness at the Moment...Ive run all three... All three Roms work exceptionally Well..

probably Calkulin but...
i agree about the three of those being good bets. i've heard and read the most positive things about Calukin's stuff. It's not uncommon for other ROMs to be based on his work.
That being said, I'm also on Mijjah's Blend ICS (the Goodness). The earlier versions had a few more hiccups (mainly GPS). I'm on ver 2.5.1 and have not ran into any issues yet. GPS, check. Notification sounds, check. Notification LED indicator... oh, OK. 1 minor issue so far.

The test builds of CM9 is working pretty well, battery life is kinda bad though and for some reason it doesn't play audio through my car dock.
Sigh, back to Gingerbread I go...

Depends on your personal preference... If you wish to remain on Touchwiz, try one of the above suggestions.
For AOSP, there's CM9, AOKP, and Codename. All are smooth and filled with customizable options.
Personally, I'm in love with Codename(over General atm)
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AOKP is badass for sure, TCP did a great job. Much better than the others imo. Havent tried Codename yet but i hear its slightly better due to more customizing

rdcrds said:
Ok i have not put anything new on my phone in a month.I have cauks older Rom.I have not even updated it.
I was reading the development section and i am lost in reading.So going to 1 for the first time and not having tons of issues that i get stuck with which Rom seems to be doing the best in the ICS rom section?
I understand ill get different views from people who love 1 person but i really just want to best Rom going on right now.
thanks.
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These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.

nabbed said:
These ICS roms have tons of bugs. Nothing really major aside from complete incompatibility with my bt car kit.
But still, they are far from being a daily driver.
If I had to choose, I'd probably pick aospmod rom.
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False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.

zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.

zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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I think 99% might be an overestimate. Some lucky folk have had that experience, a great many other people are getting only a "few" bugs, but fundamental ones, like borked contacts and failing notifications, etc.
Sent from my calculator watch.

zonlicht said:
False, the FC leaks ones are 99% bug free.
CM9, Codename and AOKP all have their share of serious bugs.
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What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.

blackroseMD1 said:
I've been running Codename for a week, and haven't experienced a single serious bug. It's almost as solid for me as the GB Touchwiz roms were.
OP, it really depends on what you want. If you want Touchwiz, then I'd definitely go with one of Calk's roms. If you want AOSP, then I'd recommend Codename, followed by CM9, then AOKP.
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So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?

slick4mitch said:
So, you're saying your video camera works perfect?
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I said serious bugs. I don't ever use my video camera, so it's not a serious bug for me. It may be to the OP, and if so, then I would recommend that they stay on a rom where the video camera works.

nabbed said:
What do you mean by 99% bug free? One percent of phone functions are broken? Out of what, a thousand?
I'd agree. And that one percent is almost always a deal breaker.
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I don't know of any rom on any phone that works 100%. Even official Samsung releases don't work 100%.

I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.

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I keep running back to gingerbread. I kept telling myself that I will try ics when its an official release. I get the itch to flash something and always go back to what works. I was running for a day, a rom from someone, but had to Odin back to EL29 because there was something I wanted to do but couldn't because of a snafu. I personally prefer stability over the newest bells and whistles.
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Same here. I keep telling myself it would be the same, buggy enough not to be useful as a daily driver, but the flashaholic in me takes over.
So, hours are usually wasted.

Yeah i think ill just update cauks non ics rom for a bit yet and let the bugs play out.

I've been running Agat63's tFCXX series (currently on tFC18 0.1.1) since FC06; they're as smooth as ICS roms get, IMHO. A nice light "frosting" of the AOSP ICS look (courtesy of tiffany84), choice between stock and rogue-repacked (w/ CWM recovery) kernels, otherwise generally fairly close to the "stock" leaks except where Agat can convince himself he's not adding bugs/instability beyond what is naturally going to be in a leaked pre-release with build.prop tweaks, bloatware trimming, and such. Plus he's incredibly responsive to his users' requests and very open to providing them options.
FC06/FC07 was _just_ good enough to be a DD for me (but _barely_). FC15 and now FC18 have been nearly flawless in my experience. Of course, YMMV but I find _very_ little to complain about. Just my experience - the one thing I've learned from reading a LOT in ICS related threads is that everybody's phone behaves a little bit differently, everyone uses their phone a little bit differently, and everyone wants something a little bit different -- my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).

jt_hatch said:
my recommendation would be to nandroid and start testing the roms ppl mention in this thread until you find one that works well for you (or decide ICS isn't done enough for you yet and you want to stay on GB a little bit longer).
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My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.

nabbed said:
My recommendation would be to wait until an official ICS release.
There's really not that much new ICS has to offer over GB. Not for this phone anyway.
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For tw roms, yes ics is very similar to gb. But there's a world of difference between gb aosp and ics aosp. Like cm7 << cm9. Agreed that there's still bugs to be worked out for any ics roms, but some really good work has been done by our devs without having e4gt ics source released.
OP, if you do try ics roms right now, its a really good idea to be very cautious using any ics recovery. There is a real risk with bricking your phone, especially with aosp roms.
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[Q] what is your favorite cm7 based rom?

mine is currently Blackice 1.60. whats yours?

Are you from the past or what?
Seriously, now there is CM10 and even CM11, noone is using these old ROMS anymore...

Sorry?
Not trying to get the credit off the jellybean and ics devs, they do an amazing job, but ics and jellybean are more dead than CM7. They just reached a dead end. There are betas, alphas and unsolved bugs/critical features for ages on all of them!
I just want my phone fully working. I'm not a beta tester.
I'm using CM7.2 and it rocks. But sometimes I go back to BlackIce.

well IceColdSandwich, official ICS MIUI, some sense ROMs, XGS series, etc. are all practically bug free. CM10 is almost as good and still improving.

Tried a few ICS and JellyBean versions.
All had camera, mms, lag problems and, in general, a unstable behavior.
And it seems they are here to stay.

I'am sure you haven't tried then MiUi ICS nor XGS series.

Most AOSP/AOKP/CM ICS ROMs are perfectly fine, same for all of the newer 3.6 ROMs and some of the 4.0's.
But I've recentally taken a thing for cm7 based ROMs (again).
I've used 7.2RC (Official), Blackice, hydrogen, both oxygen ports. I'll be adding MookeOS soon as well.
I think Blackice and Hydrogen are the best out there. Oxygen is a little too stripped down for me, and 7.2 could be lighter (as demonstrated by Blackice and Hydrogen).
Hydrogen has going in it's favor: Extremely fast (fastest ROM ever, after reboot everything INSTANTLY works), extremely fast mount speeds (with a class 4 mounted onto my computer, read speeds averaged around 3.5mbps, with other ROM's it's around 1.5-1.7mbps).
Blackice: Great battery, same amount as Cm7 (I've used CM7 6 hours straight, screen down at the lowest, airplane mode, still had 40% left), pretty fast (you don't really need faster), and lockscreen widgets is working.
Against Hydrogen: Average battery life (2 minutes per 1%), lockscreen widgets (in cm controls) isn't working. I don't care really.
Against Blackice: not as ridiculously fast as hydrogen.
tl;dr IF you want as much speed as possible, and having only a day of battery life is okay, then go with hydrogen. If you want to really use your phone, and you don't mind not having a near dual core CPU and 1gig of open RAM speeds, then go with that
I personally prefer Hydrogen a little more.

CM7 for GB and JellyTime(CM10 based) for JellyBean

Rikodu said:
CM7 for GB and JellyTime(CM10 based) for JellyBean
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Agree

JB Roms: are they true stable DD's you would install on you parents phone?

Hello,
G2 owner here, I am considering flashing a new rom onto my not so tech savy friends Desire HD. I'm wondering how good the experience of the JB roms is? On the G2 the roms are unusable but it's certainly not a good experience, lots of random slow downs and lag, plus the camera quality sucks. I'm wondering if that is much the same on the DHD.
Would you flash a JB rom onto your Mum's phone, or would you stick with CM7? Consistent random slow downs / lag plus sub par camera quality isn't acceptable!
Also, if someone has a nice clear guide handy for rooting and installing recovery from 2.3 a link would be appreciated
Thanks!

I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!

koningjim said:
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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Sorry my bad! I am a G2 owner, but I am looking at flashing a rom onto my friend DHD. -- updated the OP

whilst the jb roms are very stable, i wouldnt recomend them for a complete technaphoab. better safe than sorry.
on the other hand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968854 this is very good, but synergye(lead dev) is focusing more time on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003273 this.
the sense interface is very basic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839004
and if you want the mind numbing simplicity of ios, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991558 (i havent tried this one yet though)
as always, read the threads first

Hard to tell, depends what they use... JB ROMs (and ICS) are really stable. No reboots or crashes. Really. There are small minor bugs, but I suppose most of the people wouldn't notice them, since not all people use all functionality. I.e. I wouldn never notice Bluetooth bug since I never use it, etc.
Now, IMHO, the best combination is JT plus KangBang kernel 1.9 stable. It works great, really smooth and fast. I have really a lot of apps and everything works just fine. With KB kernel, at least on my device, I can overclock to more than 1.2Ghz, i.e. 1.5, and it really works well. 4.1.2 is the best Android for me, fastest. I also have Nexus 7 and now that I have 4.2.1 I see how slower it is compared to 4.1.2. But Nexus is so fast that it doesn't matter. On DHD it might, because it is only single core. I tried CFX also and I had lockups and slowdowns. It is also stable, but would just stop responding for me from time to time.
But all in all I would make a backup of your current ROM (stock) and go for JB/KB combo. The only downside for me is battery life, which is worse than stock, but that doesn't happen on all sets (go figure).
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