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I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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hahahahahaha You are sooooo lost! you dont know how the network works and i'd bet your paying big time for phone service hahaha oh man thats funy..... ok ok ill tell you how it works its called VOIP or Voice Over Internet Protocol meaning you will use the internet for making phone calls such as a wifi connection ever heard of phone company VONAGE ? (if your american) well its something like that you will need an internet connection such as a wifi connection and you will only be able to make call when you are connected to to THAT wifi connection you cannot go around and make calls because you will get disconnected from the wifi after you got connected to a wifi spot you will need a service provider I sudgest www.skype.com actually skype rocks its really cheap its like 3 dlls for unlimited usa and 10 dlls for unlimited world or you can get prepaid after that you will need to subcribe and download skype for windows mobile smatphone install the app acess your skype acc and then make a phone call on your wifi network.........
that should save you some money however the thing that sucks about it its that you need to have a wifi connection for it to work or you can get edge or 3g network but you cant i think if your not on your home area....
I sudgest getting your phone sim unlock you can get one for free by contacting tmobile ask for a sim unlock and just use a local sim card you would pay much less than with roaming and you would not need a wifi connections to make phone calls.
if you got more questions just poste hope it helps.......
It actually works
I obtained a t-mobile dash recently and I am having a similar issue. The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work.
themitch - Considering the HTC Dash will not work on the T-Mobile hotspot service and will not make VOIP calls without considerable modifications (unless you install skype or another third party voip client) you are blowing smoke. The HTC Dash simply does not have the software or the hardware to connect to a wifi hotspot for calls without help.
Now you can modify the Dash to work on the T-Mo at home service (and other wifi networks) but it requires installing some files, editing the registry and knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash.
Anyway,
Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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Have you done a hard-reset or tryed another ROM?
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Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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The Dash does not have the hardware or software to make calls over the internet or wifi (without considerable help) not to mention the EDGE / GPRS network is specifically designed to make this next to impossible to happen.
Are you sure your not turning on and off the PHONE radio, turning on the wifi will NOT detect a GSM or EDGE network the hardware in the phone does not work that way.
Now it is possible you have the one in a billion HTC Dashes that can do this lol but I doubt it. Proof? its called Video bro, take a video of what your phone does and share it up
VoIP
I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP
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I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP
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We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why.
Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know
I give up reading as just persumed he could only talk celular "not voip", when wi-fi is on...???
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I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
cya
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My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
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And as stated you can not make VOIP calls with out system modifications, as you show here (and as I stated) you need to install third party applications and cab files which modify the HTC Dash system. Thus, the answer is NO the T-Mobile rep is quite wrong, the HTC Dash as recieved from T-Mobile will NOT make WiFi / VOIP calls out of the box.
I would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult.
Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style
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Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style
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Happy to oblige ya then.
See morfic said "I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well) And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
As stated time and time again, the T-Mobile rep is wrong no HTC Dash sold will work out of the box over IP (voip) nor will it work on the Hotspot, nor will you be able to circumvent roaming by connecting over WiFi for calls, it cant happen. As further evidence that this is the topic of 'debate' themitch said he had a similar problem, thus this promted the entire rest of the discussion where I already stated you need to modify the Dash and use third party software, something a T-Mobile rep will never recommend nor suggest you do... not to mention I did say to you "We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why."
so just where does your oh so unnecessary replies come in here? You simply restated what was already stated and it was not relevant to the actual discussion that themitch, morfic and I were having... so yeah, pay attention.. it helps
Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.
Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.
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Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.
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Aww thats cute.
Its not a wild leap if you actually read what he wrote. Obviously the T-Mo rep thought the Dash was set up for use on the WiFi @Home service (like many of T-Mos current phones) and gave incorrect information. I cleared it up for him that its not and wont make voip calls without help. You got your feelings hurt when it was pointed out your not contributing to the discussion. Using 'big words' now is not helping your case.
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Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.
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I guess you forgot you made the claim "The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work." Now that would seem you are saying what you wrote, that your Dash makes calls over the access point, in other words WiFi. What you wrote here clearly infers your Newly acquired Dash makes voip calls and not normal radio calls. Perhaps you should take more care in what you write to avoid this type of miscommunication in the future huh?
A video would be great.. lets see if it ever surfaces lol
A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?
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A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?
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Umm yeah, whats next your daddy can beat up my daddy? lol
Whatever.
I am going to the US for a few weeks soon and I want to be able to speak to family back home in the UK, the hotel has free wifi but im not taking a laptop, is there any way I can make cheap (or free) calls via my Desire over wifi?
I have looked into skype VOIP which seems to be the ideal solution but it's not available on android, is there any other way to get VOIP to landline to work?
Comments appreciated.
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I am going to the US for a few weeks soon and I want to be able to speak to family back home in the UK, the hotel has free wifi but im not taking a laptop, is there any way I can make cheap (or free) calls via my Desire over wifi?
I have looked into skype VOIP which seems to be the ideal solution but it's not available on android, is there any other way to get VOIP to landline to work?
Comments appreciated.
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Did you try to search? Even in market?
Search in market for 'sipdroid' e.g.
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I'm using the android 3CX client with a free Sipgate account that allows me to call other voip numbers. I have a local uk number with them so my missus can call that when I'm away for free via her home phone.
What will work well for you is an account with freespeech.co.uk which will give you a UK no with your choice of area code, and Fring. Setting it up on your Desire is very easy. The best thing about is that you can use the VOIP no in any country where you have access to wifi. Cost: approximate £10.00 + Vat per month.
Fring is only necessary on your Desire. A router and a VOIP phone will do the job from your home or wherever else you might want to call from via VOIP.
Try voipcheap in combination with SIPdroid.
Wow thanks guys, it looks like SIP is going to be the best option, there are quite a few providers though, do they all have a "pay as you use" type tariff?
I use sipgate.co.uk with the android app sipdroid. Works perfect!
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I have a US T-Mob G2 and sipdroid installed on it. Using VoIPfone which is in the UK. I have a speedtest app installed which shows 5 mbps download speed 3 mbps upload. I posted this message to another forum where it was moved involuntarily to the Android Q&A but I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem. I am using 2.3.4 which is auto-updated by T-Mobile. I have been CID&SIM unlocking and flashing Wizards, Hermeses, Blue Angels, Wings for over five years but never thought to do anything to this phone and wonder if that may be the problem now, as T-Mobile has their own VoIP service to prevent you from sidestepping their plan-minutes. Curiously there have been 142 views of my question with no suggestions whatsoever. Again, I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem.
People report that they can hear me clear as a bell on Sipdroid but I can hear almost nothing. I hear a half second of incoming sound followed by a second or two of silence, then another half second of sound, repeating about 10 times till all incoming sound stops completely.
VoIP provider (Voipfone) says yes, some other users OF THEIRS have reported this problem and this is an inherent problem with Android and Android users cant use VoIP. They allude to some mysterious latency problem (which is identifiable on line, - except that users say it affects OUTGOING sound, not incoming so): I say baloney: There is something wrong with their server. Or can T-Mob recognise that I am trying to use VoIP and I suppose there is a remote chance they are blocking something to prevent me using any VoIP service other than their own (which uses their minutes!!). Cant imagine what they could do to stop me but i can sure imagine why they would want to try! The symptoms do look suspiciously like blocking?
Has anyone else noticed this problem with Sipdroid or any other VoIP app on a G2 or (as I have to think more likely) with Voipfone? Voipfone have been quite negative about trying Acrobits etc.
After tons and tons of problems using sip viop. I ended up using gvoice plus groove ip. Works perfect and in latest versions they have tons of fixes for no voice and such. Dosent use minutes and can be used over 3g and 4g. Hope this helps.
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weird results when phone connected to computer
Since i posted, I discovered that Sipdroid works perfectly when connected to a computer with a hard wire! When unplugged, it continues to work fine. You can even walk around the flat and the connection continues to work fine! As soon as I try to MAKE a call, the problems re-emerge.
I posted these results on the Sipdroid forum and the moderators dont seem to have let this problem be public (yet?)
(Dont now think it is the phone or the carrier)
I agree with you. It is not a problem of Android. I would suggest you to go for a trial service with another VOIP service provider and see the difference. I am sure you will not face this issue. I am using VOIP service on my Android from the The Real PBX. And actually it is working fine with me. It may be the issue of the SIP client they are providing with their service as well.
VIOP problems
I have always used voip in conjunction with a home asterisk server, PBXes, Sipgate and Google Voice over wifi. I have not used T-mobile's service, so I can offer little help, there, regarding circumventing any of their blocks.
The problems you're describing, one way audio, could be related to STUN, NAT or the use of an incompatible codec. Usually, codec. I do not use STUN. The most compatible codec would be ulaw, or alaw in Europe. Sipdroid is not the friendliest client, I rather use Android's (gingerbread or better) built-in or CSipSimple. CSipSimple is the best out there for easy setup. I has numerous host profiles built right in the setup wizard.
Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!
I have been using this provider successfully for five years
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Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!
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Thanks guys the problem must be with Sipdroid: I see their forum is replete with questions and NO answers for months on end. I will try to see whether the other apps integrate different codecs or different ways of using STUN?
The curious thing is that the provider semi-officially recognises Sipdroid on their site which makes it a bit surprising that they cant isolate the problem in my case.
Have you guys used Dell Voice? Being a Canadian, Google voices limitations have left a lot to be desired, but I came across the app Dell Voice and have been using it for several days with much success. The best part... You get a free Canadian number . This alone puts it ahead of Skype.
I'm not getting voicemail notifications through it, however, but I think that's just a bug they need to fix. Audio on wifi is top notch. Haven't tried it on my regular data plan.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fongo.dellvoice
I've noticed a lot of negative reviews, and not experiencing the problems being reported. Battery use via wake locks is less than 0.5% according to betterbatterystats .
Share your feedback
wait so lemme get this straight, this app allows you call long distance for free???
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wait so lemme get this straight, this app allows you call long distance for free???
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In Canada for free. Worldwide on paid credits... Never tried worldwide calling.
I've used this companies service before - for years, but they never had a mobile service... It use to be through PC software.
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i see to the free calling cities, thats awesome tho, i call home to victoria from vancouver all the time.. this is wicked!
Yes I signed up for the service as well and am happy with the call quality and options. With the number option you can forward your calls to the number of dellvoice and get service without changing your number, where its difficult to get signals. would recommend this.
Just installed and tested a couple long distance calls.... Good call quality! A keeper for sure
Dell Voice kicks ass. I am going to call my provider (rogers) and drop my voice to the lowest plan the have 40min for $13 and cancel caller id and keep my 6 gig of data. Then I can use this for all of my calling. No more long distance calls and the best part is the call quality is actually good. better then I ever got through Skype. And receiving calls to your own assigned number. Only thing it is missing is SMS which they claim is in the workings and will be added in the future.
I heard about it earlier but installed today
Its working great but I am using Wifi connection at the moment
will test with 3G mobile network..
good stuff, thank you
with 6gb plan + call forwarding i can reduce my voice plan
Has anyone got this working with their bluetooth headset? It's not working at all with the blueant z9.
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apk please??
Hey guys, got my account set up, but can someone please upload the apk?
does the voicemail work for other? on the website I get an error message whenever I got to the voicemall tab
this is awesome, thank you OP for letting us know!
Works nicely and quality is nice
Im with Virgin mobile, tried calling 3 numbers, all worked, 1 didnt, for some reason, not sure why, all local numbers. Still, love it!
I'm loving the Dell VOIP service. Since I cancelled Call Display & Voice Mail with Rogers, I now forward incoming calls to my rogers# to the Dell#, free call display and voice mail. It amazes me that Rogers gets away with charging $10+/m for it.
apk please. shows incompatible with my device on android market.
Pretty cool service considering Google Voice is technically not available to Canadians.
Anyone knows more about their future plans? Bait and switch from free to paid services? Turn off service if not well received within the next few months? etc.
I like the Dell voice.....
APK Please
Yes, This is a great App. I used it for years on computer.
Can anyone upload the Apk?
Thanks a lot.
I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Probably because Google hasn't released it yet.
Come on, did you really need to ask that question? A simple search would have shown that it's not scheduled to be released for another few weeks, if not longer. The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.
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The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.
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Sorry. This is the info I was searching.
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I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Email to Larry Page
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Email to Larry Page
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Good Job Man :highfive:
Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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No one knows. However, if it's like the N73G, the answer is no.
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Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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Out of the box? According to this link, no.
I use the original Nexus (wifi only) as a phone though with a verizon 4g hotspot. VOIP calling over mobile broadband (4g) is just as good if not better than calls over GSM. Really I'll be surprised if VOIP calls don't become more common than PSTN in 5 or 6 years. Especially since SIP to SIP calls are free (it's really not much different than emailing someone).
Search for tutorials by acegolfer in this forum if you're interested in how to set this up.
VOIP over LTE with, for example, Google Voice plus Groove IP is the way to go. I use that nearly 100% of the time on my phone even plus you have the benefits of switching numbers on the fly (work/personal) and the management features like blocking numbers, do not disturb, etc. are great.
Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.
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Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.
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You don't have to flip out. They are just trying to be helpful and there are plenty of people who don't realize what they can and can't do. Also, for work, I would much rather use BBM voice over my cdma call.