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Is VoIP a problem with the G2 unless you use T-Mob's app?

I have a US T-Mob G2 and sipdroid installed on it. Using VoIPfone which is in the UK. I have a speedtest app installed which shows 5 mbps download speed 3 mbps upload. I posted this message to another forum where it was moved involuntarily to the Android Q&A but I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem. I am using 2.3.4 which is auto-updated by T-Mobile. I have been CID&SIM unlocking and flashing Wizards, Hermeses, Blue Angels, Wings for over five years but never thought to do anything to this phone and wonder if that may be the problem now, as T-Mobile has their own VoIP service to prevent you from sidestepping their plan-minutes. Curiously there have been 142 views of my question with no suggestions whatsoever. Again, I am pretty sure it isnt an Android problem.
People report that they can hear me clear as a bell on Sipdroid but I can hear almost nothing. I hear a half second of incoming sound followed by a second or two of silence, then another half second of sound, repeating about 10 times till all incoming sound stops completely.
VoIP provider (Voipfone) says yes, some other users OF THEIRS have reported this problem and this is an inherent problem with Android and Android users cant use VoIP. They allude to some mysterious latency problem (which is identifiable on line, - except that users say it affects OUTGOING sound, not incoming so): I say baloney: There is something wrong with their server. Or can T-Mob recognise that I am trying to use VoIP and I suppose there is a remote chance they are blocking something to prevent me using any VoIP service other than their own (which uses their minutes!!). Cant imagine what they could do to stop me but i can sure imagine why they would want to try! The symptoms do look suspiciously like blocking?
Has anyone else noticed this problem with Sipdroid or any other VoIP app on a G2 or (as I have to think more likely) with Voipfone? Voipfone have been quite negative about trying Acrobits etc.

After tons and tons of problems using sip viop. I ended up using gvoice plus groove ip. Works perfect and in latest versions they have tons of fixes for no voice and such. Dosent use minutes and can be used over 3g and 4g. Hope this helps.
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weird results when phone connected to computer
Since i posted, I discovered that Sipdroid works perfectly when connected to a computer with a hard wire! When unplugged, it continues to work fine. You can even walk around the flat and the connection continues to work fine! As soon as I try to MAKE a call, the problems re-emerge.
I posted these results on the Sipdroid forum and the moderators dont seem to have let this problem be public (yet?)
(Dont now think it is the phone or the carrier)

I agree with you. It is not a problem of Android. I would suggest you to go for a trial service with another VOIP service provider and see the difference. I am sure you will not face this issue. I am using VOIP service on my Android from the The Real PBX. And actually it is working fine with me. It may be the issue of the SIP client they are providing with their service as well.

VIOP problems
I have always used voip in conjunction with a home asterisk server, PBXes, Sipgate and Google Voice over wifi. I have not used T-mobile's service, so I can offer little help, there, regarding circumventing any of their blocks.
The problems you're describing, one way audio, could be related to STUN, NAT or the use of an incompatible codec. Usually, codec. I do not use STUN. The most compatible codec would be ulaw, or alaw in Europe. Sipdroid is not the friendliest client, I rather use Android's (gingerbread or better) built-in or CSipSimple. CSipSimple is the best out there for easy setup. I has numerous host profiles built right in the setup wizard.

Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!

I have been using this provider successfully for five years
wodurrah said:
Just use Groove IP with your google voice best $4 spent ever...international calling over wifi what what!!!
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Thanks guys the problem must be with Sipdroid: I see their forum is replete with questions and NO answers for months on end. I will try to see whether the other apps integrate different codecs or different ways of using STUN?
The curious thing is that the provider semi-officially recognises Sipdroid on their site which makes it a bit surprising that they cant isolate the problem in my case.

[Q] Desire HD WIFI calling

Guys....Does anybody know of a good app or a rom with the option to make wifi calls from my DHD? We have just moved to a very rural UK area that has a great wifi connection but no connection for our phones. We (wife and I) are both on T-Mobile, I have a DHD rooted and she a Desire un rooted. Please help if you can as I am of very bad health (dodgey heart) and have often had to call an ambulance but alas this is not possible any longer. Before you ask 'why did we move here?' One reason was because its very beautiful and the other reason is it's very quiet (My health needs this) As daft as it seems we never thought to check mobile coverage.lol (you have to laugh or you will cry)
Thanks Guys

I use Skype. Free and the quality is amazing with almost no delay on a good connection
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You have a few different possibilities:
a) Even if you are using t-mobile it should be possible to call the police, an ambulance or the firefighters via vodaphone or whatever you've got up there. Maybe you should just give it a try and see if you get a connection.
b) Skype. This site should give you all the info you need:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/legal/emergency/
c) You can get a router with VOIP functionality to be able to use your landline on your phone. This is of course only possible while you are at home.

Viber and skype are very good quality calling sound.

I am using Skype is irreplaceable always bell to the family abroad
I recommend

If you have a SIP account, you can use it with sevrals apps like "csipsimple".
You can call were you want form Wifi.
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Thanks for you thoughts and help guys

[Canada] Dell voice - free VoIP with Canadian number

Have you guys used Dell Voice? Being a Canadian, Google voices limitations have left a lot to be desired, but I came across the app Dell Voice and have been using it for several days with much success. The best part... You get a free Canadian number . This alone puts it ahead of Skype.
I'm not getting voicemail notifications through it, however, but I think that's just a bug they need to fix. Audio on wifi is top notch. Haven't tried it on my regular data plan.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fongo.dellvoice
I've noticed a lot of negative reviews, and not experiencing the problems being reported. Battery use via wake locks is less than 0.5% according to betterbatterystats .
Share your feedback

wait so lemme get this straight, this app allows you call long distance for free???

collindubya said:
wait so lemme get this straight, this app allows you call long distance for free???
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In Canada for free. Worldwide on paid credits... Never tried worldwide calling.
I've used this companies service before - for years, but they never had a mobile service... It use to be through PC software.
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i see to the free calling cities, thats awesome tho, i call home to victoria from vancouver all the time.. this is wicked!

Yes I signed up for the service as well and am happy with the call quality and options. With the number option you can forward your calls to the number of dellvoice and get service without changing your number, where its difficult to get signals. would recommend this.

Just installed and tested a couple long distance calls.... Good call quality! A keeper for sure

Dell Voice kicks ass. I am going to call my provider (rogers) and drop my voice to the lowest plan the have 40min for $13 and cancel caller id and keep my 6 gig of data. Then I can use this for all of my calling. No more long distance calls and the best part is the call quality is actually good. better then I ever got through Skype. And receiving calls to your own assigned number. Only thing it is missing is SMS which they claim is in the workings and will be added in the future.

I heard about it earlier but installed today
Its working great but I am using Wifi connection at the moment
will test with 3G mobile network..

good stuff, thank you
with 6gb plan + call forwarding i can reduce my voice plan

Has anyone got this working with their bluetooth headset? It's not working at all with the blueant z9.
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apk please??
Hey guys, got my account set up, but can someone please upload the apk?

does the voicemail work for other? on the website I get an error message whenever I got to the voicemall tab

this is awesome, thank you OP for letting us know!
Works nicely and quality is nice
Im with Virgin mobile, tried calling 3 numbers, all worked, 1 didnt, for some reason, not sure why, all local numbers. Still, love it!

I'm loving the Dell VOIP service. Since I cancelled Call Display & Voice Mail with Rogers, I now forward incoming calls to my rogers# to the Dell#, free call display and voice mail. It amazes me that Rogers gets away with charging $10+/m for it.

apk please. shows incompatible with my device on android market.

Pretty cool service considering Google Voice is technically not available to Canadians.
Anyone knows more about their future plans? Bait and switch from free to paid services? Turn off service if not well received within the next few months? etc.

I like the Dell voice.....

APK Please
Yes, This is a great App. I used it for years on computer.
Can anyone upload the Apk?
Thanks a lot.

[Q] Native VOIP support

Doesn't the GNEX have built-in VOIP support?
My old HTC Desire with Oxygen ROM (AOSP 2.3) had this.
I assumed ICS would have it too, but I don't find anywhere to enter the sip key and password....

No it does not.

Aww, that sux.
Does any of the roms offer this?

nxt said:
No it does not.
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SIP accounts have been natively supported since Gingerbread.
In ICS go into phone -> Menu -> Settings -> Internet call settings.
You can set up your SIP account there and call settings (when to use, receive incoming, etc).

Hm, yeah thats what I thought too, but I don't see any "Internet call settings" in the setup menu on my GNEX 4.0.2.

madsere said:
Hm, yeah thats what I thought too, but I don't see any "Internet call settings" in the setup menu on my GNEX 4.0.2.
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You need to go into the phone app, the menu, settings. It was moved out of the main settings page.
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Ah that's where it's hiding. Actually it kinda makes sense. Thanks!

Anybody want to recommend a good SIP service and say a little about them? Currently I am using GrooVe IP + Google Voice but who knows what is going to happen now that Google has screwed them over..

I was recommended sipgate.com and terrasip.com by friends. Not much experience with them yet but I was told they are good.
From my own experience, avoid voipdiscount.com, awful call quality.

SipGate is not going to work for me, at least for the time being.
Thank you for your interest in sipgate!
Due to the increased volume of new registrations within the last few weeks, we have unfortunately ran out of free numbers in your area and we are currently not able to offer you any alternative free phone number at the moment.
We have ordered a new batch of numbers which will be made available very soon but we're afraid we can't give you an exact time frame for this yet. Follow us on twitter and we will let you know when it will be possible to sign-up for an account with us again.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this.
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Edit: Terrasip looks more like a European service. Anyone had success with them in the US?
Ive been so spoiled on the whole Google Voice being free thing, I'm not so sure I'm willing to pay a minute fee for VOIP/SIP..

WiredPirate said:
Anybody want to recommend a good SIP service and say a little about them? Currently I am using GrooVe IP + Google Voice but who knows what is going to happen now that Google has screwed them over..
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CallCentric

didlogic.com
Few people know about this provider because they mostly sell to other companies but their quality and rates is second to none. I pay $6/monthly and use the native sip feature. works like a charm.

Can anyone explain in a few words what is the difference between DID and SIP and VOIP.
I live in Thailand. I'd like to be able to let people call a number somewhere in Europe or US and have that redirect to my mobile here. Obviously with as low cost as possible.
I'd also like to be able to call people worldwide without spending an arm and a leg. That is what a SIP provider provides, correct?
I guess to get a number somewhere I need to find a DID provider able to provide the number in that country, right? And I'd still need some way to carry the call from the DID to me? Do I understand this right?
Unfortunately the international Internet connectivity from here isn't too good, so I thought perhaps it would be best to get a SIP provider here? Or does that not make any difference?
Sorry if this is going somewhat off topic, but since you guys seems to know this stuff and the OP (my) question has been answered I guess it's ok

Anyone know of a way to set it to only use internet calling when you are on wifi? It is pretty pointless for it to use 3g or LTE for internet calling...
Thanks

madsere said:
Can anyone explain in a few words what is the difference between DID and SIP and VOIP.
I live in Thailand. I'd like to be able to let people call a number somewhere in Europe or US and have that redirect to my mobile here. Obviously with as low cost as possible.
I'd also like to be able to call people worldwide without spending an arm and a leg. That is what a SIP provider provides, correct?
I guess to get a number somewhere I need to find a DID provider able to provide the number in that country, right? And I'd still need some way to carry the call from the DID to me? Do I understand this right?
Unfortunately the international Internet connectivity from here isn't too good, so I thought perhaps it would be best to get a SIP provider here? Or does that not make any difference?
Sorry if this is going somewhat off topic, but since you guys seems to know this stuff and the OP (my) question has been answered I guess it's ok
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SIP is a protocol for VOIP (Session Initiation Protocol).
A DID is a direct inward dialing number (a telephone number).
Normally with a sip provider you don't get a DID. You receive calls at [email protected] This does not allow a standard phone to call you, just other SIP clients.
There are various services (and some SIP providers) that will allow/grant a DID to send a call to a SIP service. You can get a DID with Sipgate or use a service such as IPKall to get a DID and forward the calls placed to that DID to your VOIP/SIP provider (which will then ring your phone).

nomisunrider said:
Anyone know of a way to set it to only use internet calling when you are on wifi? It is pretty pointless for it to use 3g or LTE for internet calling...
Thanks
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[Q] How to bypass Vodafone Romania block of Viber application?

Hello.
I'm from Romania and i'm a subscriber of Vodafone Romania.
Viber works fine on my phone on every wifi I connected to, but when I activate the Mobile Internet it says that it is "currently unavailable and/or blocked". It seems that VIBER is blocked by Vodafone Romania and the only way I can use it with their Mobile Internet Service is to pay a tax of 3.13 Euros (3.8 dollars). In my opinion the fee for this service is abuzive and restrains the rights of its users.
From what I know Viber uses certain ports so it can make those VOIP calls and those are blocked by Vodafone.
My question is simple and I hope that some users from Romania and from other countries that are on Vodafone and have their Viber blocked can help with some tips and tricks on how to bypass the block.
Please refrain from answering to the question above with answers like "Change your carrier", "Use other VOIP apps instead", etc.
Let's hope we can find a way to deal with this problem,
Thank you.

SSH tunnel
My carrier also blocks VOIP like Skype & others, and the only real way I've found to get around this is to tunnel the traffic through a VPN or an SSH tunnel.
Personally I'm using the SSHTunnel app to do this. Basically you set it up to connect to a server where you have a shell account. The app then allows you to select the apps you want to tunnel their traffic.
Of course the SSH daemon on the server needs to allow forwarding of traffic and you need a good connection on both your phone & on the server end for this to work properly without call quality degradation.

Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.

Vladuu said:
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
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Yeah you're right there, although a good VPS doesn't have to cost a lot more than that. Also you can do more than just tunneling with something like that of course, so you get more value for your money.
If you have a good internet connection at home you could also use your own PC to set up the tunnel, you don't need to invest in renting a machine. Mind telling me what provider & plan you're on for your home connection? I'm quite familiar with Romanian providers so I could tell you if your current plan will allow that. Basically it mostly will depend on your upload speed. Naturally your PC needs to be up to the task as well...

Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Vladuu said:
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Both your PC & your connection seem largely sufficient to do this. How exactly to set it up on Windows is something I'm not sure about (always done this with Linux ), but there is a an OpenSSH build for Windows, so you should be able to use that. Make sure you turn on port forwarding in the settings of the daemon, and forward the incoming SSH port on your router. SSH defaults to 22, but RDS might block that, so up it to something above port 1024 and it should work. Check out this guide, it seems pretty complete on first glance .

Thanks for the useful info. I think it's a good ideea to use your personal computer in order to bypass the block. I will try this tomorrow and report back here on how it goes.
In the meantime, if someone else has some other tips please post them here.

Viber
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team

Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
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Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.

@Vladuu -
It is our pleasure to be here and assist.
We'll be waiting for news from you, and we hope those will be good news

How about using Tor, if a shell account is not available, nor a private ssh server?

Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN

Vladuu said:
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN
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well? does it work? Vodafone Spain here, same issue...

Hi,
As far as we know, Vodafone Spain still blocks VoIP services (including Viber) on its 'simple' data plan (for users who haven't purchased VoIP access).
We assume this can be confirmed with the company itself, by contacting their customer support or checking out their mobile data plans online.

Vladuu said:
Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
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Vladuu, did you ever find an answer to this? It seems it's an intermittent block for me. Sometimes it works, sometimes no.

I droped my Vodafone contract because they were the first company to implement a voip net blockage in germany.
I can only recommend to do this. Bypassing a blockage might be against your contract, which means you're asking for ways to break your contract / the law....
I'm now using O2 / Germany. They've posted on twitter that they won't block voip, ever. You are able to vote with your money, do it!

I know it's months after the previous replies, but I also faced this problem (for Skype) and fixed it.
The solution is using a VPN, but you don't necessarily need one at home. I use OpenVPN Connect from Play Store and vpnbook.com.
Install OpenVPN, install the certificates from vpnbook.com (server1 & server2, I just just UDP, 25000), then anytime you need to use SKype, follow these steps:
1. Open you browser of choice, go to vpnbook.com, the OpenVPN tab, get the current password (they change once per day)
1a. Close the browser from the recent tasks window, or (in case you use FF) you will not be able to browse using it after you start the VPN Connection
2. OpenVPN Connect, enter the password you found in step 1. Click Connect, check "I trust this ... <>" and OK.
3. Start Skype/Viber/whatever.
Thank you and sorry for the bump.