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Calls if only Wifi is on?

I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel

morfic said:
I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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hahahahahaha You are sooooo lost! you dont know how the network works and i'd bet your paying big time for phone service hahaha oh man thats funy..... ok ok ill tell you how it works its called VOIP or Voice Over Internet Protocol meaning you will use the internet for making phone calls such as a wifi connection ever heard of phone company VONAGE ? (if your american) well its something like that you will need an internet connection such as a wifi connection and you will only be able to make call when you are connected to to THAT wifi connection you cannot go around and make calls because you will get disconnected from the wifi after you got connected to a wifi spot you will need a service provider I sudgest www.skype.com actually skype rocks its really cheap its like 3 dlls for unlimited usa and 10 dlls for unlimited world or you can get prepaid after that you will need to subcribe and download skype for windows mobile smatphone install the app acess your skype acc and then make a phone call on your wifi network.........
that should save you some money however the thing that sucks about it its that you need to have a wifi connection for it to work or you can get edge or 3g network but you cant i think if your not on your home area....
I sudgest getting your phone sim unlock you can get one for free by contacting tmobile ask for a sim unlock and just use a local sim card you would pay much less than with roaming and you would not need a wifi connections to make phone calls.
if you got more questions just poste hope it helps.......

It actually works
I obtained a t-mobile dash recently and I am having a similar issue. The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work.

themitch - Considering the HTC Dash will not work on the T-Mobile hotspot service and will not make VOIP calls without considerable modifications (unless you install skype or another third party voip client) you are blowing smoke. The HTC Dash simply does not have the software or the hardware to connect to a wifi hotspot for calls without help.
Now you can modify the Dash to work on the T-Mo at home service (and other wifi networks) but it requires installing some files, editing the registry and knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash.
Anyway,

Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.

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Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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Have you done a hard-reset or tryed another ROM?

themitch said:
Bupahs:
I am not blowing smoke. I did not mean to suggest it was using the [email protected] service, simply that my dash only functions properly if connected to a wireless access point. I do not know how I could prove this to you. I seriously doubt it is using the wireless for anything but internet, but as I said before, the phone detects the network after, and only after, I turn the wireless on. Also, once the wireless is turned off, the phoneceases to make/receive calls, surf the internet, etc. If you could kindly explain how that could be I would love to hear back from you.
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The Dash does not have the hardware or software to make calls over the internet or wifi (without considerable help) not to mention the EDGE / GPRS network is specifically designed to make this next to impossible to happen.
Are you sure your not turning on and off the PHONE radio, turning on the wifi will NOT detect a GSM or EDGE network the hardware in the phone does not work that way.
Now it is possible you have the one in a billion HTC Dashes that can do this lol but I doubt it. Proof? its called Video bro, take a video of what your phone does and share it up

VoIP
I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP

cya said:
I've been using VoIP (Internet Calling) over wifi on my Dash for months. I've tested several VoIP providers and have had very little setup issues. Currently my provider is Gizmo which has been great. I have tweeked the registry so my wifi connection is G (as opposed to B) and have tested at numerous cafes that offer free access. The overall quality is very useable but not the quality of that of cell service.
cya
PS It took me more time to get the attached clip made than to setup the VoIP
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We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why.
Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know

I give up reading as just persumed he could only talk celular "not voip", when wi-fi is on...???

morfic said:
I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well)
And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
So i was thinking, cool, sounds like [email protected], he agreed, so i'm actually trying this, turn of phone, keeping only wifi on, and what happens when i dial any number? Of course it tells me the phone is off and if i want to turn it on, so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls, or was the t-mobile guy just confusing me?
Thanks if anyone could shed some light on this,
Daniel
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My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
cya

cya said:
My post was in direct response to morfic's question in post #1 ... "so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls".
Bottom line Daniel is that you have options for wifi voice calls. Setup a Skype, Fring, or similar 3rd party software account or setup up a SIP account like Gizmo, install two or three readily available cabs and use the Internet Calling feature MS designed into the operating system.
cya
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And as stated you can not make VOIP calls with out system modifications, as you show here (and as I stated) you need to install third party applications and cab files which modify the HTC Dash system. Thus, the answer is NO the T-Mobile rep is quite wrong, the HTC Dash as recieved from T-Mobile will NOT make WiFi / VOIP calls out of the box.
I would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult.

Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style

cya said:
Bupahs you may think there's a debate about "out of the box" VoIP but my read of morfic's thread starting post is that of a guy that wants to know if it's possible to eliminate roaming charges in Germany by making use of wifi calling.
In your own words "Paying attention to whats being discussed helps ya know" and "I(t) would be nice if you did not attempt to confuse the facts, it makes communicating with others difficult" .... just my read but I don't see morfic (Daniel) asking about "knowing how to hack your router to get the required information out of it to enter into your Dash" ... only morfic can comment but I'm guessing that he’d just like to get a simple answer to his initial question.
cya
ps just another guess ... but I'm expecting another of your demeaning "put down posts", that seems to be your style
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Happy to oblige ya then.
See morfic said "I just got off the phone with t-mobile, i asked my roaming rates if i use the phone in germany (on t-mobile, and still it roams, silly, but oh well) And i was told i could just make calls if i find a hotspot or just any unsecured wifi connection.
As stated time and time again, the T-Mobile rep is wrong no HTC Dash sold will work out of the box over IP (voip) nor will it work on the Hotspot, nor will you be able to circumvent roaming by connecting over WiFi for calls, it cant happen. As further evidence that this is the topic of 'debate' themitch said he had a similar problem, thus this promted the entire rest of the discussion where I already stated you need to modify the Dash and use third party software, something a T-Mobile rep will never recommend nor suggest you do... not to mention I did say to you "We know it can be done, whats being 'debated' here is whether the topic starters out of the box Dash is doing it with no modifications and if so why."
so just where does your oh so unnecessary replies come in here? You simply restated what was already stated and it was not relevant to the actual discussion that themitch, morfic and I were having... so yeah, pay attention.. it helps

Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.

Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.

cya said:
Bupahs you didn’t disappoint …. semi-creative use of morfic’s setup information to expound your superior knowledge and the tmobile guy’s perceived misinformation. morfic’s “sounds like [email protected]” leaves a little room for some benefit of the doubt for the tmo rep ... I’d bet we could find more than a few reps that understand how the system works. Without the benefit of a transcript of morfic’s phone conversation it’s a stretch to imply he was told specifically that VoIP was an “out of the box” option. Just a wild guess here but maybe that’s why morfic asked “so can i use the dash on a wifi connection to make voice calls”. I’ll just wait for him to decide if he wants to setup Internet Calling or use some 3rd party software. If he should decide to go the Internet Calling route I’ll gladly provide the cabs if he so requests. Bupahs, “so yeah, pay attention.. it helps” and I’ll leave you and your condescending comments to yourself.
cya
ps morfic I feel your pain … I got the $429 bill my daughter ran up using her phone when she was in France for 10 days … I made sure that didn’t happen again when she went back for 4 months by sending her with a phone setup to take advantage of VoIP using wifi. Just so you know the quality of the call was in direct relationship to the quality of the wifi connection.
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Aww thats cute.
Its not a wild leap if you actually read what he wrote. Obviously the T-Mo rep thought the Dash was set up for use on the WiFi @Home service (like many of T-Mos current phones) and gave incorrect information. I cleared it up for him that its not and wont make voip calls without help. You got your feelings hurt when it was pointed out your not contributing to the discussion. Using 'big words' now is not helping your case.

themitch said:
Stylez- That is correct. I will repeat again for Bupahs' benefit that I am not claiming to be using voip. I have installed several different WM variations, and in every case, the phone only detects the t-mobile network after I turn on the wireless-g connection. I am assuming this is some kind of hardware malfunction at this point, but I am hoping someone knows more about these phones can explain what is going on and how I can fix it.
Oh, and yes, I am smart enough to know the difference between the phone radio and the wireless button in the com manager Bupahs. I have owned several pda's and smartphones, and I know the difference. You may think I am stupid, but since I have not and do not claim to be using voip, your comments are unnecessary. I need help, not some jerk telling me I am blowing smoke. I will post a video for you after I get the phone put back together, as I have disassembled it to see if something is shorted on the panel or something. Hopefully that will satisfy you.
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I guess you forgot you made the claim "The phone recognizes my sim card, but will not connect to t-mobile's network. If, however I have wireless on, my phone will make calls, and naturally internet. I am not entirely sure what is going on here, but using an access point for calls actually does work." Now that would seem you are saying what you wrote, that your Dash makes calls over the access point, in other words WiFi. What you wrote here clearly infers your Newly acquired Dash makes voip calls and not normal radio calls. Perhaps you should take more care in what you write to avoid this type of miscommunication in the future huh?
A video would be great.. lets see if it ever surfaces lol

A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?

themitch said:
A miscommunication I have repeatedly attempted to clear up, yet you are still being an ass. Don't you have anything better to do?
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Umm yeah, whats next your daddy can beat up my daddy? lol
Whatever.

international calls

im new using windows mobile and im looking for an applications to make calls international any information about that

uhmmm, not sure where to start with this.
I could go with:
You just dial the number you want with the country and area code and push send. Talk and then pay the bill when you get it.
or
Get Skype and use Internet based calling. There is a cost to this as well I believe.
or
It is a windows based phone. There is no hack to allow free phone calls to other places without the carrier allowing it and thus billing you for it.
Maybe a little more information on what you want to do would be helpful. You sort of said " I have a new car so how do I get to Vegas?"

InRBigness said:
uhmmm, not sure where to start with this.
I could go with:
You just dial the number you want with the country and area code and push send. Talk and then pay the bill when you get it.
or
Get Skype and use Internet based calling. There is a cost to this as well I believe.
or
It is a windows based phone. There is no hack to allow free phone calls to other places without the carrier allowing it and thus billing you for it.
Maybe a little more information on what you want to do would be helpful. You sort of said " I have a new car so how do I get to Vegas?"
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yea thanks for no information dude

MORENITOCONFLOW said:
yea thanks for no information dude
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Wow! It took you since March to come up with that witty reply?

I just figure out by my self thta why I dint lose time replying but since I don't have nothing to do today I reply u back
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The questions was vague and poorly composed (just like your subsequent responses). That's why you didn't get a proper answer to your question.

[Q] restoring the dial pad

Ok what i am trying to do is reactivate the dial pad so i can call out on Google voice if it is possible. I see the mobile network and data in the es explorer. But they are both blocked. i love voice on my home PC. I know my friend with an android phone can use it the same as a regular phone call just like selecting a browser or media player. i was trying to make an app that dose it. I do have root. I am not asking anybody to do it for me but some pointers would be a great help.
PS if you did do it i would love to know how as i am learning how to add permitions and other hooks. this one is eluding me!

look into groveip. There is a thread about it in the apps area.

thank you but not what i was asking
As i said i was wondering where i can do it. I have seen the groove post before. It seams like a nice app but it dose not meet one requirement. I wanted to make it so i could change it.

Even if you do get a standard Android dialer to work(not even sure if it's really in Honeycomb), you'd still need the physical hardware to be present and working(definitely not in the WiFi version and unlikely in the 3G version without lots of work), hence the need for something like GrooveIP.

again
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Even if you do get a standard Android dialer to work(not even sure if it's really in Honeycomb), you'd still need the physical hardware to be present and working(definitely not in the WiFi version and unlikely in the 3G version without lots of work), hence the need for something like GrooveIP.
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again i want to do something similar to grove but i want control over the source so i can set it up. I want to be able to record incoming and out going calls on it. My Iphone wont let me do this and voice only dose it on incoming i want to be able to record all calls and since i broke my back at work i am long on time and short on money so thanks again for recommend of grove but it dose not do what i want it to
and i have reason for this.
i am asking if anybody knows where or how not an app.
to find the apk or how to add the service and fake it into thinking it has gsm or to reset the Dial as i believe that will be a good start

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again i want to do something similar to grove but i want control over the source so i can set it up. I want to be able to record incoming and out going calls on it. My Iphone wont let me do this and voice only dose it on incoming i want to be able to record all calls and since i broke my back at work i am long on time and short on money so thanks again for recommend of grove but it dose not do what i want it to
and i have reason for this.
i am asking if anybody knows where or how not an app.
to find the apk or how to add the service and fake it into thinking it has gsm or to reset the Dial as i believe that will be a good start
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Sounds like you're just kind of making up your own thing, better get to writing your own code.

[Q] How to bypass Vodafone Romania block of Viber application?

Hello.
I'm from Romania and i'm a subscriber of Vodafone Romania.
Viber works fine on my phone on every wifi I connected to, but when I activate the Mobile Internet it says that it is "currently unavailable and/or blocked". It seems that VIBER is blocked by Vodafone Romania and the only way I can use it with their Mobile Internet Service is to pay a tax of 3.13 Euros (3.8 dollars). In my opinion the fee for this service is abuzive and restrains the rights of its users.
From what I know Viber uses certain ports so it can make those VOIP calls and those are blocked by Vodafone.
My question is simple and I hope that some users from Romania and from other countries that are on Vodafone and have their Viber blocked can help with some tips and tricks on how to bypass the block.
Please refrain from answering to the question above with answers like "Change your carrier", "Use other VOIP apps instead", etc.
Let's hope we can find a way to deal with this problem,
Thank you.

SSH tunnel
My carrier also blocks VOIP like Skype & others, and the only real way I've found to get around this is to tunnel the traffic through a VPN or an SSH tunnel.
Personally I'm using the SSHTunnel app to do this. Basically you set it up to connect to a server where you have a shell account. The app then allows you to select the apps you want to tunnel their traffic.
Of course the SSH daemon on the server needs to allow forwarding of traffic and you need a good connection on both your phone & on the server end for this to work properly without call quality degradation.

Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.

Vladuu said:
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
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Yeah you're right there, although a good VPS doesn't have to cost a lot more than that. Also you can do more than just tunneling with something like that of course, so you get more value for your money.
If you have a good internet connection at home you could also use your own PC to set up the tunnel, you don't need to invest in renting a machine. Mind telling me what provider & plan you're on for your home connection? I'm quite familiar with Romanian providers so I could tell you if your current plan will allow that. Basically it mostly will depend on your upload speed. Naturally your PC needs to be up to the task as well...

Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Vladuu said:
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Both your PC & your connection seem largely sufficient to do this. How exactly to set it up on Windows is something I'm not sure about (always done this with Linux ), but there is a an OpenSSH build for Windows, so you should be able to use that. Make sure you turn on port forwarding in the settings of the daemon, and forward the incoming SSH port on your router. SSH defaults to 22, but RDS might block that, so up it to something above port 1024 and it should work. Check out this guide, it seems pretty complete on first glance .

Thanks for the useful info. I think it's a good ideea to use your personal computer in order to bypass the block. I will try this tomorrow and report back here on how it goes.
In the meantime, if someone else has some other tips please post them here.

Viber
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team

Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
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Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.

@Vladuu -
It is our pleasure to be here and assist.
We'll be waiting for news from you, and we hope those will be good news

How about using Tor, if a shell account is not available, nor a private ssh server?

Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN

Vladuu said:
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN
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well? does it work? Vodafone Spain here, same issue...

Hi,
As far as we know, Vodafone Spain still blocks VoIP services (including Viber) on its 'simple' data plan (for users who haven't purchased VoIP access).
We assume this can be confirmed with the company itself, by contacting their customer support or checking out their mobile data plans online.

Vladuu said:
Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
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Vladuu, did you ever find an answer to this? It seems it's an intermittent block for me. Sometimes it works, sometimes no.

I droped my Vodafone contract because they were the first company to implement a voip net blockage in germany.
I can only recommend to do this. Bypassing a blockage might be against your contract, which means you're asking for ways to break your contract / the law....
I'm now using O2 / Germany. They've posted on twitter that they won't block voip, ever. You are able to vote with your money, do it!

I know it's months after the previous replies, but I also faced this problem (for Skype) and fixed it.
The solution is using a VPN, but you don't necessarily need one at home. I use OpenVPN Connect from Play Store and vpnbook.com.
Install OpenVPN, install the certificates from vpnbook.com (server1 & server2, I just just UDP, 25000), then anytime you need to use SKype, follow these steps:
1. Open you browser of choice, go to vpnbook.com, the OpenVPN tab, get the current password (they change once per day)
1a. Close the browser from the recent tasks window, or (in case you use FF) you will not be able to browse using it after you start the VPN Connection
2. OpenVPN Connect, enter the password you found in step 1. Click Connect, check "I trust this ... <>" and OK.
3. Start Skype/Viber/whatever.
Thank you and sorry for the bump.

[Q] Where is the LTE version?

I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?

rampo said:
I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Probably because Google hasn't released it yet.
Come on, did you really need to ask that question? A simple search would have shown that it's not scheduled to be released for another few weeks, if not longer. The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.

phonic said:
The N73G didn't come out until a month or two after the Wi-Fi models did.
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Sorry. This is the info I was searching.

rampo said:
I was searching the 32GB + WiFi + LTE on BestBuy and Amazon but I haven't found nothing. Why?
When it will become available?
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Email to Larry Page

phuduong said:
Email to Larry Page
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Good Job Man :highfive:

Will I be able to use it as a phone?

IamPro said:
Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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No one knows. However, if it's like the N73G, the answer is no.

IamPro said:
Will I be able to use it as a phone?
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Out of the box? According to this link, no.
I use the original Nexus (wifi only) as a phone though with a verizon 4g hotspot. VOIP calling over mobile broadband (4g) is just as good if not better than calls over GSM. Really I'll be surprised if VOIP calls don't become more common than PSTN in 5 or 6 years. Especially since SIP to SIP calls are free (it's really not much different than emailing someone).
Search for tutorials by acegolfer in this forum if you're interested in how to set this up.

VOIP over LTE with, for example, Google Voice plus Groove IP is the way to go. I use that nearly 100% of the time on my phone even plus you have the benefits of switching numbers on the fly (work/personal) and the management features like blocking numbers, do not disturb, etc. are great.

Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.

phonic said:
Every single time someone asks about whether the N7 can do voice calling, people always want to chime in with irrelevant suggestions. The question is whether it can make standard GSM calls over the carrier's network, not whether you can make VoIP calls. Of course you can do that, just like you can use Skype, Google Hangouts, etc. - but that's not the question.
That's like someone asking if it can run MS Office and responding back, sure, it can do that if you install an RDP or VNC client and connect to your desktop and launch office from your computer. Two completely different things.
As I said earlier, the N73G can NOT place carrier voice calls. There are two threads in it's respective forum where people, a year later, still think that feature is "just around the corner" - it's not. Whether or not the new N7-LTE can do that is still up in the air. But there is a big difference between using VoIP and being able to make/receive calls natively.
And as someone who works with VoIP professionally (SIP specifically) on a daily basis, I completely disagree that using a VoIP application over 3G/LTE is just as good as a standard GSM call. It's not. If all you care about is making the occasional call to a friend or family member, sure, it's a perfectly fine alternative. But if you are talking about using it as a frequently used method of making and receiving calls to replace your cell phone with - absolutely not. Especially not for business purposes. The call quality will almost certainly not be better than GSM, unless you are using a high bandwidth codec like G711. And even then you will have to deal with common issues like packet loss, jitter, high latency spikes, etc. which will likely negate any benefits. Trying to use it while moving between towers can result in dropped calls if your IP changes. Even having it in standby will cause you to lose registration and thus possibly miss inbound calls. And don't even get me started on the battery life.
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You don't have to flip out. They are just trying to be helpful and there are plenty of people who don't realize what they can and can't do. Also, for work, I would much rather use BBM voice over my cdma call.