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Install GTalk on Orange Desire

The version of Desire supplied by Orange lacks Google Talk, amongst a few other annoyances (Orange love to bugger around with firmware). Is there any way of installing it, as it doesn't appear to be installable from Market?
Is this a case of getting the apk from a standard Desire (from where?) and installing it? Or replacing Orange's image with the default (which I think isn't possible yet)?
I'll confess to being new to Android. I apologise if I'm asking stupid questions!

If you go to the nexus one forum, download a rom that isn't cyanogen and then extract it on yout pc, you should find in one of the folders all of the apps, one of them would be gtalk.apk or talk.apk

biemsy said:
The version of Desire supplied by Orange lacks Google Talk, amongst a few other annoyances (Orange love to bugger around with firmware). Is there any way of installing it, as it doesn't appear to be installable from Market?
Is this a case of getting the apk from a standard Desire (from where?) and installing it? Or replacing Orange's image with the default (which I think isn't possible yet)?
I'll confess to being new to Android. I apologise if I'm asking stupid questions!
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Just spoke to some numpty at orange about this and the fact i want to delete some of the rubbish they've put on, the first guy cut me off as had no clue then I called again and they said it was a third party app!? They have no idea basically; I wish they would leave things alone, I hope that more people will complain and in an update they will sort it, I had a Hero before and with all the same apps as I had on that I've got less free memory due to the rubbish they put on!
Other than that what a fantastic phone!

brummiesteven said:
If you go to the nexus one forum, download a rom that isn't cyanogen and then extract it on yout pc, you should find in one of the folders all of the apps, one of them would be gtalk.apk or talk.apk
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I'll give that a try. Thanks!

No joy so far. I downloaded one of the MoDaCo ROMS, found Talk.apk but it won't install. Installer just says "application not installed". I'll try another later.

biemsy said:
No joy so far. I downloaded one of the MoDaCo ROMS, found Talk.apk but it won't install. Installer just says "application not installed". I'll try another later.
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I think you need to install IMService first, or something like that =/ I'm not 100% on this never had to do it before.

brummiesteven said:
I think you need to install IMService first, or something like that =/ I'm not 100% on this never had to do it before.
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I've been digging around a bit more. I found nothing called IMService in that ROM, but two others that could be prerequisites - gtalkservice.apk (Google Talk Storage) and TalkProvider.apk (Google Talk Storage). When trying to install either of those, it tells me in each case that it is already installed and the same version.
Time for a bit more trial and error then. It's a shame the installer doesn't give a more useful error message than "application not installed"!

Jazd71 said:
Just spoke to some numpty at orange about this and the fact i want to delete some of the rubbish they've put on, the first guy cut me off as had no clue then I called again and they said it was a third party app!? They have no idea basically; I wish they would leave things alone, I hope that more people will complain and in an update they will sort it, I had a Hero before and with all the same apps as I had on that I've got less free memory due to the rubbish they put on!
Other than that what a fantastic phone!
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If it weren't for the fact that I need reception in places where Orange is still the only operator to have reliable coverage, I'd have dropped them a long time ago because of this.
It would be nice to think they would listen to reason. I doubt that will happen. You'll only ever get to speak to a numpty, and what do they care anyway — you have already signed up to the contract.

You can replace the Orange ROM with a standard HTC one (I assume this comes with it, I'm still using the Orange one)

cooper667 said:
You can replace the Orange ROM with a standard HTC one (I assume this comes with it, I'm still using the Orange one)
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How would one do that? I'd be quite happy to use the standard ROM.
There nothing apparent to me that came with it - there's no ROM on the SD card or anything like that.

If orange have removed it from their firmware then be careful, you might end up with a call about using your mobile data for things not included in your contract.

I want Gtalk on my Orange Desire too!!
I read on Android Forum... someone said you can remount the file back to the phone(on Hero).
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1. Download the Android 1.6 recovery image @ HTC - Developer Center
2. Open up the recovery image via WinRAR, WinZip or whatever
3. Locate gtalkservice.apk and ImProvider.apk in \system\app
4. Copy those files to your SDCARD and then unmount when done.
5. Go into Terminal Emulator and enter these commands:
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
cp /sdcard/ImProvider.apk /system/app
cp /sdcard/gtalkservice.apk /system/app
reboot
The phone will return back to normal. This works on any type of ROM!
you should be able to remount the talk.apk etc. back, I tried the command in terminal but "access denied"... is it because the phone is locked to orange so I cant modify internal memory??
anyone got ideas???

As I understand it, you need to "root" your phone to do that, and that can't be done yet on the Desire - but clever people are working on it.
I've been trying to install talk.apk from other sources, but haven't succeeded yet. I've not yet seen imservice in any 2.1 ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

If you go into the Developers part of the Desire forums there are a couple of threads related to installing the generic HTC version of the Desire ROM

I did it by just installing Talk.apk that I got off another 2.1 ROM. I used ASTRO to browse to the file and then install it.

i believe its against orange internet t&c's to user messenger type applications. on windows modile phones they have "orange messanger" where they're cheeky enough to try to charge you for instant messages LOL

Which ROM did you use? I've tried a couple and they've failed to install.

giggsey said:
I did it by just installing Talk.apk that I got off another 2.1 ROM. I used ASTRO to browse to the file and then install it.
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Works Fine ! Thanks for the idee

has anyone used a non orange IM and been told to stop?

mmm_ok said:
i believe its against orange internet t&c's to user messenger type applications. on windows modile phones they have "orange messanger" where they're cheeky enough to try to charge you for instant messages LOL
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Why on earth would this be against the T&C's?

Any ROMS with a File Explorer? Got the Stuck at download problem.

Hey there folks!
Basically, I've been hit with the stuck at downloading problem with my HTC Desire.
It won't download ANY apps whatsoever apart from PayPal for some reason.
I've tried everything, deleting cache/data for various programs, factory reset, HARD reset, installing different roms and even been given a new phone by Orange! Still no luck.
I've even tried creating a new googlemail/gmail account, activating GTalk and all the rest. Nothing is working for me and it is seriously stressing me out.
I was wondering, are there any ROMs out there with a FILE EXPLORER built in? I don't care what file explorer it is, just as long as it has one. That way I'll be able to install MyBack Up Pro and install the rest of my Apps from my SD card instead of having to download them.
I don't really care what ROM it is, I've gotten to the point where I just want a working Desire with apps!
Any help would be grateful.
Much obliged
River =]

River T. said:
Hey there folks!
Basically, I've been hit with the stuck at downloading problem with my HTC Desire.
It won't download ANY apps whatsoever apart from PayPal for some reason.
I've tried everything, deleting cache/data for various programs, factory reset, HARD reset, installing different roms and even been given a new phone by Orange! Still no luck.
I've even tried creating a new googlemail/gmail account, activating GTalk and all the rest. Nothing is working for me and it is seriously stressing me out.
I was wondering, are there any ROMs out there with a FILE EXPLORER built in? I don't care what file explorer it is, just as long as it has one. That way I'll be able to install MyBack Up Pro and install the rest of my Apps from my SD card instead of having to download them.
I don't really care what ROM it is, I've gotten to the point where I just want a working Desire with apps!
Any help would be grateful.
Much obliged
River =]
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just do a search for paid apps online and you will probably find them available to download for free and do a manual install via HTC Sync
Filestube.com is a good one
if you like the app, it is worth considering paying for it to support the developers

Hi there,
thanks for replying =]
I can't seem to find a HTC Sync that is compatible with the Mac OS X
I'll have a look around a bit more though.
River.

Is your phone rooted?
If so, open the Rom zip file and add the apk for a file explorer and then install it from the recovery menu, remember to disable verification.

So I would literally just unzip the DeFrost rom, add in File Explorer apk into the zip and then re-zip it.
And then go to the Recovery and just do a wipe an reinstall the rom?
Would that actually install the File Explorer too?
I tried HTC Sync.
For some reason my phone won't connect to it! (Tried on both Mac OS X and Windows 7)
This is definitely not my lucky week >_<

Well that works for me
I use Leedroid mod.
I open zip file and put APK's under Data/App
But i dont unzip, i just open the zip in winrar, add the apk's , choose add and replace and thats it.
then i install rom with signature verification disabled.
Newly flashed rom with my own apk's installed from start.
GIve it a shot

Ahh
I think thats what might have went wrong for me.
The signature verification feature?
How do I disable it? Is it through my phone or through my laptop?
I tried unzipping then adding the apk file in the Apps section and THEN rezipping it but it doesn't work.
The ROM won't install.
Must be because of the verification thing...

In the recovery menu under advanced u can disable it if u use amon ra.
if u use clockwork i think its under the flash zip menu
SOmetimes when i do this it doesnt work first time ( most times it works), if that happens just wipe and reflash.
Good luck

Perfect!
Thanks very much friend.
Finally working. Soon as I got File Manager installed the rest of it became a piece of cake!
I owe you one Charon72!
River

No problem, Just happy i could help solve your problem.
Enjoy ur working desire

[Q] HTC Car Panel

I'm running baked snack 1.3, Is there anyway to reinstall the carpanel app on this rom? i don't see it in the Market..Any ideas?

TurbineTester said:
I'm running baked snack 1.3, Is there anyway to reinstall the carpanel app on this rom? i don't see it in the Market..Any ideas?
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Rip the .apk from a stock rom and then try and install it on the ROM you're using.

ok i'll try that. I'm not certain i know how so let me know if this process isn't correct...
Unzip the Rooted Stock 2.2 ROM
Search for carpanel.apk or somthing similar, then just move that to the sd card and install it.
Thanks. I'll let you know if this works!

TurbineTester said:
ok i'll try that. I'm not certain i know how so let me know if this process isn't correct...
Unzip the Rooted Stock 2.2 ROM
Search for carpanel.apk or somthing similar, then just move that to the sd card and install it.
Thanks. I'll let you know if this works!
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Yup exactly...

For your convenience:
The HTC car panel
The other two are the google android car panel files (you need both)
I prefer the google one because it has a music button and works in landscape.
Let me know if I messed up and put the wrong files for any of them.

how exactly do you install that apk file after they are both on your sd card?

poopedtim said:
how exactly do you install that apk file after they are both on your sd card?
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download astro file manager from the market.
This app allows you to browse files on your sd card.
Find those .apk files that you need to install.
and itll detect to install it once you launch them
***Side Note***
The first time you try to install an apk itll have a security/protection setting
Youll see what i mean when you attempt to open that file, itll ask you if you want to unblock ---> unblock by unchecking that box.

Thank you very much ! This was quite helpful my HTC desire.

Dude thanks! You rock! Seems that CoreDroid missed that element in their v8.1 ROM for HTC Inspire/Desire HD. I'll be trying this for sure.

Thanks for the links nhutpham, has helped out a family member who lost car panel due to the android 2.3.5 and sense 3.0 updates.

Likewise, my Amaze (2.3.4, Sense 3.0) simply didn't have an HTC Car Panel app. This is a little old, but works fine. Hopefully Sense 4.0 with the ICS update will come with the new car app I've seen demoed at MWC this week.

[Q] Defy: A beginner's questionnaire!

I just bought a Defy and would like to experiment with it a bit. However, I have a few concerns:
1. I have Eclair and want to root using z4root. I have download ver.1.3.0. How safe is it to root and exactly what features will I get if I do?
2. Say I have rooted the phone, in case anything goes wrong can I revert back to the original? If yes, how? (Would be handy to know the steps beforehand)
3. When the official Froyo update is released, can I update even if it is rooted? If yes, after I update will the phone stay rooted?
4. Is it possible to install apps in a non-rooted phone using a PC? (I have Windows 7). If yes, please provide a link with an easy guide.
5. Is Step 4 possible for rooted phones?
These are for now. I am sure a lot will be added to the list.

abhi.eternal said:
I just bought a Defy and would like to experiment with it a bit. However, I have a few concerns:
1. I have Eclair and want to root using z4root. I have download ver.1.3.0. How safe is it to root and exactly what features will I get if I do?
2. Say I have rooted the phone, in case anything goes wrong can I revert back to the original? If yes, how? (Would be handy to know the steps beforehand)
3. When the official Froyo update is released, can I update even if it is rooted? If yes, after I update will the phone stay rooted?
4. Is it possible to install apps in a non-rooted phone using a PC? (I have Windows 7). If yes, please provide a link with an easy guide.
5. Is Step 4 possible for rooted phones?
These are for now. I am sure a lot will be added to the list.
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Let me so how much I can help you,
1.) Using z4 root, should be completely safe. If it doesn't work it will just stp and you back out of it. You don't really get feature per sae, but you get get "admin" rights to your phone. The app superuser which is attatched the root gives you access to delete all the bloatware preloaded on the phone as well as capability to completely mod your phone. Androids are fun, but non compare to being rooted.
2.) If you use z4 root, I believe there is an unroot feature on there.
3.) You can definitely receive the official upgrade if you are rooted, the only way you wouldn't is if you flash a different rom, but even then as long as you flash back to stock you will get it. Altough, why wait when many of us are already running clean Froyo! By the time the official rolls out, we'll most likely be on 2.3
4.) when you say install apps from the pc, do you mean just using the .apk? If you find the apps online, you can simple connect your defy to the pc and drop that apk on your sd card and open the app from the phone, it will begin installation.
5. The way I just referred yes, I may be confused to the question.
If you root (which you should!) you should look into buying root explorer and Titanium Backup Pro from the market. These two things are a modders dream.

@jjp84: Thanks! So I guess I will root my cell after all!
6. To install .apk directly, does the phone needs to be rooted or can it be tried in a non-rooted phone?
7. Any good radio app which allows FM on loudspeaker?
8. How to get offline Google maps?
9. Any sexy compass application?
10. Is Motoblur with other launchers possible?

6. you can install .apk's on unrooted phones...just tick Settings/Applications/Unknown Sources. You'll need some kind of Explorer app to install 3rd party apk's. i.E. ASTRO or ES Explorer. Then copy apk to SD Card and install it with your preferred explorer.
9. I use Compass
10. I guess, yes. I try to avoid MotoBlur.
Sry not allowed to add links.

7) I recomand you this application, I use it and is brilliant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903103
10) Yes, you can install any other "launcher" ... I tried LauncherPro (works great) and now I'm going with Go Launcher Ex

Thanks for the link to the FMRadio apk
I recommand Go Launcher too, i'm using it for 3 weeks on my defy and it works great!

cool will try it

Does your battery life reduce if you use a launcher from the market? Since it's an extra program that is constantly running.

SemperEgo said:
Does your battery life reduce if you use a launcher from the market? Since it's an extra program that is constantly running.
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Not really, it's performing the same functions the stock launcher is with less mess running around it.

Hi thr..Are you the same guy on iGyaan ?
hehe...The first DEFY buyer from India.

Abhi and the other person who bought defy in India. Can you go to your settings>about phone> and give us some information on the build number?

measel said:
6. you can install .apk's on unrooted phones...just tick Settings/Applications/Unknown Sources. You'll need some kind of Explorer app to install 3rd party apk's. i.E. ASTRO or ES Explorer. Then copy apk to SD Card and install it with your preferred explorer.
9. I use Compass
10. I guess, yes. I try to avoid MotoBlur.
Sry not allowed to add links.
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6. Thanks. I just made a folder in the SD card and copied the downloaded APK files there. Then I just tapped on the file and voila, I was asked to install the app. It worked great! Dunno whether this was necessary, but I had USB debugging and Unknown sources checked.
9. Thanks, downloaded it!
acvaristul said:
7) I recomand you this application, I use it and is brilliant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903103
10) Yes, you can install any other "launcher" ... I tried LauncherPro (works great) and now I'm going with Go Launcher Ex
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Awesome FM app, thanks. Also, is there any way to make the launcher look like that on Droid?
virgo_sabby7 said:
Hi thr..Are you the same guy on iGyaan ?
hehe...The first DEFY buyer from India.
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Yes, I am
chaihg said:
Abhi and the other person who bought defy in India. Can you go to your settings>about phone> and give us some information on the build number?
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JRDNEM_U3_2.52.0 - May I ask why do you need this?
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11. If I root it and install Froyo, will I still have Motoblur? Am I gonna miss any functionality if I upgrade?
12. Is there any way to install apps with a QR code link from the PC? I don't have a data connection yet nor I have WiFi access
13. What are the best sites to download free APKs from? Please suggest some worthwhile free apps/games.
14. I want to use the Nexus One live wallpaper in my Defy. I got the APK as well and it installed successfully. However, when I try to launch it, I always get an error and the screen returns blank.
15. I have problem with my compass. I downloaded the Compass application and I was asked to calibrate. I tried that but it seemed to be little inaccurate. So I tried to calibrate the compass using phone settings. However, here the compass was stuck at red when I tried. I uninstalled compass and tried re-calibrating but it needed a reboot to get it to green. However, when I tried again, it again stayed at red. Had to reboot again. So it works after a first reboot and stops working if I try to re-calibrate. Any fixes?
App request
- FM radio with recording
- Slideshow widget for homescreen. Should be an option to scroll images without opening gallery.
- Offline calendar/reminder app
- Offline maps apk
- Will ask for more later

Can you run a quadrant benchmark and give us the scores? I mean how does the defy match up to high end droids in the benchmark score(which it shows at the end of the test) and how many FPS you get in the GPU benchmark inside that(the test in which graphics is tested using that first person shooter view test). If you dont know how to run quadrant benchmark, google it, its common.(Sorry if it is installed by default, i dont know about it, i am planning to buy an android phone soon so i am interested in defy) and what is the street price of defy? Since MRP is 18.5k INR, street price must be lesser. Thanks.

Abhi seems like Motorola released a newer version of the firmware for India. Because the 2.51 UK was pretty hard to root and z4root didnt work on it. We had to use super1click to root it.
Hmm. . i guess you will also find it unrootable for the moment.
In case you do root it then install the tenfar recovery apk and then make a backup of the stock rom you have before you do anything else to it. That way it might be of use in case you want to get back to original setup or if you decide to return the phone to the company when still under warranty.

rhlravi said:
Can you run a quadrant benchmark and give us the scores? I mean how does the defy match up to high end droids in the benchmark score(which it shows at the end of the test) and how many FPS you get in the GPU benchmark inside that(the test in which graphics is tested using that first person shooter view test). If you dont know how to run quadrant benchmark, google it, its common.(Sorry if it is installed by default, i dont know about it, i am planning to buy an android phone soon so i am interested in defy) and what is the street price of defy? Since MRP is 18.5k INR, street price must be lesser. Thanks.
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Quadrant results: 1080 running Eclair. Only Nexus One running Froyo and Moto Droid X have better performance from the list.
I bought it for almost 19K INR, all incl. I am more than satisfied with my purchase
chaihg said:
Abhi seems like Motorola released a newer version of the firmware for India. Because the 2.51 UK was pretty hard to root and z4root didnt work on it. We had to use super1click to root it.
Hmm. . i guess you will also find it unrootable for the moment.
In case you do root it then install the tenfar recovery apk and then make a backup of the stock rom you have before you do anything else to it. That way it might be of use in case you want to get back to original setup or if you decide to return the phone to the company when still under warranty.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Will sure back it up if I root.
@rest: can someone please help me with the other queries?

HTC Transfer Data App

Hello,
I've got a HTC Desire. My old phone is a Windows Mobile device.
A friend of me has a Desire HD with the App Transfer Data from HTC.
So I thought the Desire would also have this app and I could transfer Data from my messages from my WM device to the desire.
Is there a apk for this app somewhere?
Thanks for helping me.

Pulled from my ROM. It should be working.

Thanks for Transfer Data App i m also searching for this app. Still i didn't use this app, i hope it work's.

dont work for my Samsung Galaxy Tab, Installation failed

I am looking for something similar for my Samsung Galaxy SL i9003. If anyone has any idea, please share.

My Samsung GS2 failed too

@Samsung users:
Maybe your installations failed because this app is from htc?!
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Not Application not installed
on my Nexus S

You can't install it, you need to copy to system and fix permissions on it via ROOT explorer.

here is how i did,
transfered contacts from wm 6.5 to android using outlook
and transfered all sms using
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
hope this helps you..

davebugyi said:
You can't install it, you need to copy to system and fix permissions on it via ROOT explorer.
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i would be great if you give few more detail , i tryed to copy the apk to system and fix the primition on Room manager but still no luck

davebugyi said:
Pulled from my ROM. It should be working.
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Has anyone managed to install this .apk? I'm trying using the mentioned instructions but I can't seem to manage. Am I missing something here? I'm trying to install onto a DHD running virtuous unity 1.27.0

i got the solution
Friends just signed your apps before installing it in your mobile , you wont get this error....
Download this program to sign your apps.

@Maniascorpio: Thanks a lot buddy!!! it works on my atrix now..

@Maniascorpio: brilliant! thanks a mucho.. you're a life saver! cool.. =)

Newer version
The old version here cannot receive the picture associated with the contact. I have attached the newer version that comes with HTC Sensation. I got it from the file "Stock Apps+ODEX.zip" at this thread: [APPS] T-Mobile Stock Apps & Stock Apps+ODEX Files
Also you may want to sign the application first. Then check the above replay by @maniacscorpio.

guys any one knows how to instail this app htc transfer TransferData.apk file

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HARioV said:
The old version here cannot receive the picture associated with the contact. I have attached the newer version that comes with HTC Sensation. I got it from the file "Stock Apps+ODEX.zip" at this thread: [APPS] T-Mobile Stock Apps & Stock Apps+ODEX Files
Also you may want to sign the application first. Then check the above replay by @maniacscorpio.
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Running a Unrooted Galaxy S3 LTE. The app installs fine, I get a black screen for a few seconds, then it says "Unfortunately, Transfer has stopped."
Do I need root access?