[Q] Defy: A beginner's questionnaire! - Defy General

I just bought a Defy and would like to experiment with it a bit. However, I have a few concerns:
1. I have Eclair and want to root using z4root. I have download ver.1.3.0. How safe is it to root and exactly what features will I get if I do?
2. Say I have rooted the phone, in case anything goes wrong can I revert back to the original? If yes, how? (Would be handy to know the steps beforehand)
3. When the official Froyo update is released, can I update even if it is rooted? If yes, after I update will the phone stay rooted?
4. Is it possible to install apps in a non-rooted phone using a PC? (I have Windows 7). If yes, please provide a link with an easy guide.
5. Is Step 4 possible for rooted phones?
These are for now. I am sure a lot will be added to the list.

abhi.eternal said:
I just bought a Defy and would like to experiment with it a bit. However, I have a few concerns:
1. I have Eclair and want to root using z4root. I have download ver.1.3.0. How safe is it to root and exactly what features will I get if I do?
2. Say I have rooted the phone, in case anything goes wrong can I revert back to the original? If yes, how? (Would be handy to know the steps beforehand)
3. When the official Froyo update is released, can I update even if it is rooted? If yes, after I update will the phone stay rooted?
4. Is it possible to install apps in a non-rooted phone using a PC? (I have Windows 7). If yes, please provide a link with an easy guide.
5. Is Step 4 possible for rooted phones?
These are for now. I am sure a lot will be added to the list.
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Let me so how much I can help you,
1.) Using z4 root, should be completely safe. If it doesn't work it will just stp and you back out of it. You don't really get feature per sae, but you get get "admin" rights to your phone. The app superuser which is attatched the root gives you access to delete all the bloatware preloaded on the phone as well as capability to completely mod your phone. Androids are fun, but non compare to being rooted.
2.) If you use z4 root, I believe there is an unroot feature on there.
3.) You can definitely receive the official upgrade if you are rooted, the only way you wouldn't is if you flash a different rom, but even then as long as you flash back to stock you will get it. Altough, why wait when many of us are already running clean Froyo! By the time the official rolls out, we'll most likely be on 2.3
4.) when you say install apps from the pc, do you mean just using the .apk? If you find the apps online, you can simple connect your defy to the pc and drop that apk on your sd card and open the app from the phone, it will begin installation.
5. The way I just referred yes, I may be confused to the question.
If you root (which you should!) you should look into buying root explorer and Titanium Backup Pro from the market. These two things are a modders dream.

@jjp84: Thanks! So I guess I will root my cell after all!
6. To install .apk directly, does the phone needs to be rooted or can it be tried in a non-rooted phone?
7. Any good radio app which allows FM on loudspeaker?
8. How to get offline Google maps?
9. Any sexy compass application?
10. Is Motoblur with other launchers possible?

6. you can install .apk's on unrooted phones...just tick Settings/Applications/Unknown Sources. You'll need some kind of Explorer app to install 3rd party apk's. i.E. ASTRO or ES Explorer. Then copy apk to SD Card and install it with your preferred explorer.
9. I use Compass
10. I guess, yes. I try to avoid MotoBlur.
Sry not allowed to add links.

7) I recomand you this application, I use it and is brilliant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903103
10) Yes, you can install any other "launcher" ... I tried LauncherPro (works great) and now I'm going with Go Launcher Ex

Thanks for the link to the FMRadio apk
I recommand Go Launcher too, i'm using it for 3 weeks on my defy and it works great!

cool will try it

Does your battery life reduce if you use a launcher from the market? Since it's an extra program that is constantly running.

SemperEgo said:
Does your battery life reduce if you use a launcher from the market? Since it's an extra program that is constantly running.
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Not really, it's performing the same functions the stock launcher is with less mess running around it.

Hi thr..Are you the same guy on iGyaan ?
hehe...The first DEFY buyer from India.

Abhi and the other person who bought defy in India. Can you go to your settings>about phone> and give us some information on the build number?

measel said:
6. you can install .apk's on unrooted phones...just tick Settings/Applications/Unknown Sources. You'll need some kind of Explorer app to install 3rd party apk's. i.E. ASTRO or ES Explorer. Then copy apk to SD Card and install it with your preferred explorer.
9. I use Compass
10. I guess, yes. I try to avoid MotoBlur.
Sry not allowed to add links.
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6. Thanks. I just made a folder in the SD card and copied the downloaded APK files there. Then I just tapped on the file and voila, I was asked to install the app. It worked great! Dunno whether this was necessary, but I had USB debugging and Unknown sources checked.
9. Thanks, downloaded it!
acvaristul said:
7) I recomand you this application, I use it and is brilliant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903103
10) Yes, you can install any other "launcher" ... I tried LauncherPro (works great) and now I'm going with Go Launcher Ex
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Awesome FM app, thanks. Also, is there any way to make the launcher look like that on Droid?
virgo_sabby7 said:
Hi thr..Are you the same guy on iGyaan ?
hehe...The first DEFY buyer from India.
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Yes, I am
chaihg said:
Abhi and the other person who bought defy in India. Can you go to your settings>about phone> and give us some information on the build number?
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JRDNEM_U3_2.52.0 - May I ask why do you need this?
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11. If I root it and install Froyo, will I still have Motoblur? Am I gonna miss any functionality if I upgrade?
12. Is there any way to install apps with a QR code link from the PC? I don't have a data connection yet nor I have WiFi access
13. What are the best sites to download free APKs from? Please suggest some worthwhile free apps/games.
14. I want to use the Nexus One live wallpaper in my Defy. I got the APK as well and it installed successfully. However, when I try to launch it, I always get an error and the screen returns blank.
15. I have problem with my compass. I downloaded the Compass application and I was asked to calibrate. I tried that but it seemed to be little inaccurate. So I tried to calibrate the compass using phone settings. However, here the compass was stuck at red when I tried. I uninstalled compass and tried re-calibrating but it needed a reboot to get it to green. However, when I tried again, it again stayed at red. Had to reboot again. So it works after a first reboot and stops working if I try to re-calibrate. Any fixes?
App request
- FM radio with recording
- Slideshow widget for homescreen. Should be an option to scroll images without opening gallery.
- Offline calendar/reminder app
- Offline maps apk
- Will ask for more later

Can you run a quadrant benchmark and give us the scores? I mean how does the defy match up to high end droids in the benchmark score(which it shows at the end of the test) and how many FPS you get in the GPU benchmark inside that(the test in which graphics is tested using that first person shooter view test). If you dont know how to run quadrant benchmark, google it, its common.(Sorry if it is installed by default, i dont know about it, i am planning to buy an android phone soon so i am interested in defy) and what is the street price of defy? Since MRP is 18.5k INR, street price must be lesser. Thanks.

Abhi seems like Motorola released a newer version of the firmware for India. Because the 2.51 UK was pretty hard to root and z4root didnt work on it. We had to use super1click to root it.
Hmm. . i guess you will also find it unrootable for the moment.
In case you do root it then install the tenfar recovery apk and then make a backup of the stock rom you have before you do anything else to it. That way it might be of use in case you want to get back to original setup or if you decide to return the phone to the company when still under warranty.

rhlravi said:
Can you run a quadrant benchmark and give us the scores? I mean how does the defy match up to high end droids in the benchmark score(which it shows at the end of the test) and how many FPS you get in the GPU benchmark inside that(the test in which graphics is tested using that first person shooter view test). If you dont know how to run quadrant benchmark, google it, its common.(Sorry if it is installed by default, i dont know about it, i am planning to buy an android phone soon so i am interested in defy) and what is the street price of defy? Since MRP is 18.5k INR, street price must be lesser. Thanks.
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Quadrant results: 1080 running Eclair. Only Nexus One running Froyo and Moto Droid X have better performance from the list.
I bought it for almost 19K INR, all incl. I am more than satisfied with my purchase
chaihg said:
Abhi seems like Motorola released a newer version of the firmware for India. Because the 2.51 UK was pretty hard to root and z4root didnt work on it. We had to use super1click to root it.
Hmm. . i guess you will also find it unrootable for the moment.
In case you do root it then install the tenfar recovery apk and then make a backup of the stock rom you have before you do anything else to it. That way it might be of use in case you want to get back to original setup or if you decide to return the phone to the company when still under warranty.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Will sure back it up if I root.
@rest: can someone please help me with the other queries?

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[Q] Where to start?

Hi guys
I'm totally noob with android.i need guidance on where to start. My defy is totally stock, without any modification done.
1. Get a moto blur account and link with a google account
2. Go to android market on a pc browser, check through the top free category
3. Try them on...
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xcalibur33 said:
Hi guys
I'm totally noob with android.i need guidance on where to start. My defy is totally stock, without any modification done.
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Hey "I was" a noob too with Android! I just got my first android phone January and I really didn't know what to do with it!
Well, where to start, it's easy.
Just go to settings and all the apps, and explore all the options and features of the Defy!
Like that you will know your phone very well.
Then you would like to download apps and widgets and live wallpapers!
You will test them and with time you will know what are the good/pros and bad/cons applications.
There is the stock launcher, but it can be replaced by another launcher that you can download from market! (ex: Go launcher EX, LauncherPro, etc)
You will notice that The homescreens and app drawer will be completely different, and it's 100% safe.
If you wish to root the devices and install new ROMS, just wait.
Yes. Wait for about 3 months to know well the world of Android before trying dangerous things that could brick your phone.
If you just got the Defy, do the basic things like play movies/musics, take photos, install new apps,etc.
Hope it helped you!!
If you have other questions, I'll help you
OK, since I wish that someone took the time to reply to me when I first got my defy and posted a similar question here, I will throw in some suggestions to you.
First, make sure that your PC has the latest Motorola drivers installed.
Second, learn how to Root your phone --> probably with Super1click
[you did not tell us which firmware you have so it's hard to point you in a specific direction here]
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Then once that's done:
Instead of using the default "Files" --> use Astro file manager;
Instead of using the stock browser --> use Dolphin HD;
Protect your phone with AVG free (antivirus) and DroidWall (firewall);
Use Titanium Backup to make copy of your apks and settings and to "freeze" the bloatware on your phone;
Use SetVSel (needs Milestone overclock to run) to lower the cpu voltages and under/overclock your cpu and save battery*;
*: just did that myself and after > 10 hours since unplugged, my phone is still showing battery at 100% !!! [set to: 22/300 - 34/600 - 46 Vsel/900 MHz]
Learn to install/use ClockWorkmod (CWM) recovery and RSD Lite for Nandroids/ROMs flashing.
That should keep you busy for a while but it's nothing too hard and I'd say that all this is the very minimum that every Defy user should know and do to get the max out of their phone.
And if I may add:
1- forget about animated wallpapers: they just waste battery power
and
2- before playing with themes, lauchers and custom ROMs [which -like everything- are NEVER "100% safe"...even if it is for human error..] you should master all the items on my list first...
Good luck! I hope this helps.

[Q] Unroot a custom rom?

Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
Tweak_four17 said:
Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
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If you want to unroot, you'll need to go back to stock.
The reason they want unrooted phones, is not so much a security issue, as it is they just don't understand or don't wish to deal with possible problems.
If you backup your apps and data you can run the official RUU, and it will put the original unrooted system to your phone. I don't know other method.
Here are the official ROMs: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Removing the SU binaries will unroot you, I don't see the need as to why you have to be unrooted though.
apparently you can't use the new movie-rental feature of google's market, when you are rooted.
Is it possible to stick to a custom rom but unroot it, so that google recognises your phone as a not-rooted device and allows you to watch movies from market?
I don't need root-permissions every day - in fact I only need it for Titanium Backup, so deleting su-binaries and/or superuser.apk would be ok - but it must be possible to restore them (via recovery/adb) to run TB.
This probably isn't what google wants you to do since you can download the movie to watch later and if you have a working recovery you probably could get you hands on the downloaded files, but still - would be nice, if this was possible.
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
madcr0w said:
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
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Demonic idea
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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I like your idea mate! Hahahahahaha....
Edit: Bad boy! Bad bad boy! hahahahahahahaha....
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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Has anyone ever tested this?
Or why don't you just delete superuser via adb or android commander
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
List:
/system/app/superuser
/system/bin/su
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I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
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yep this works perfectly.
vvelumm said:
I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.
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You renamed SU.apk to SU.apk.bak most likely...
What did you rename the libs file to?
vvelumm said:
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
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I have rooted my HTC Salsa to get apps2sd which is great, but now my mobile banking app says it will not work on a rooted device, similar to your issue.
I am new to android modding, what commands do i need to enter where to rename the files you mention ?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
wont work good enterprises would more than likely check every time like sky go. you would have to removed a2sd command line i think and all su binarys ( and su.akp ( difficult as its normally a system app and once one of the su has been removed you dont have premition to remove the other/
and to the donunt who said ( the dont understand root) wanna cookie 0. basicly good enterprise is a secure web client for companys to send information to mobiles, i have it on my work (iphone) <<<< scummmy.. anyways as root gives to the option to do what ever you or anyone else wants with the phone in theory you could use that system to breack the law or for instance chaindd could possible put an update in to su that will take data from the company> for google videos ) well with root you can screen record ( basicly ) excuse the spelling im trying to find out how to un root and keep all of my system ui mods and themes and my rom ( proving difficult)
hey I know that this is based on a old post but I have a question did you ever find out how to unroot a custom rom that is pre-rooted?

[GUIDE] What to do if you get the UPDATE Notification (OTA) while rooted.

Ok, so I've seen this question asked I don't know how many times in each Rom at the Dev Section and also in the General Forum so I decided to make a quick guide.
- If you're on any ROM or even stock rooted and get prompted to update to the new update you can do a couple things.
1.- If you don't already have Titanium Back up, Download it from the market and FREEZE Device Management. Once you freeze it just reboot and the update will go away. I was going to recommend Bloat Freezer, but I couldn't find it on the Market, not sure what's going on with that.
This is the easiest step * ** *
Titanium Backup - https://market.android.com/search?q=titanium+back+up&c=apps
*An alternative would be using Root Explorer -
Under System/ App/ wssyncmldm.apk Just delete.
Root Explorer - https://market.android.com/search?q=root+explorer&c=apps
2.- If you must have the update for some reason and don't want to just flash a ROM that's already 2.3.6, then it's best to go back to stock. UPDATE will not work unless you have STOCK RECOVERY on your phone.
To go back to stock refer to this Guide made by Jangst123.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321811
3.- You can also try to flash your nandroid backup and then Odin the stock recovery. You also might need the stock kernel if you had a custom one installed, in this case flash Stock kernel first before your nandroid.
Stock Kernel - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2510030/kernel-stock.zip
4.- If you're only rooted with the stock Rom you can try to update without doing anything, but you will lose Root. There has been reports that it has worked for some, but not for others.
Be Careful with what you decide to do!!
== The update you are getting is NOT ICS, it is an update to 2.3.6 and for the Wifi Calling App. == In order for Wifi calling to work you MUST have the New Sim card that came with the phone. If you don't have one go to your T-mobile store and get one. =
*** If you rather just get the Baseband/Modem by itself then you can get it from here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-eam-kang12142011/
Thanks to Team Kang.
Hope this HELPS, now if people only used the SEARCH engine. I think I'm going to make a guide on how to use it, LOL.
*I am not responsible if you damage your expensive phone in any way. Use this guide at your own risk.*
Or....... just use free es file explorer on market ( don't forget to enable root under its settings ) and backup/delete both wssync apk's under /system/app. Then reboot
Takes less than 2 minutes and can be done without odin, firmware flashing, ect
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Nice. Thank you. Worked using root explorer and deleting. I am using barbaridier 3.5 weird it made.me update....
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Thanks for the info, i switched different rom's due to the update message stuck in the notification bar
Bloat Freezer is definitely not an app to use for freezing the Device management app anymore. An earlier forum post pointed out that it's been pulled from the market, and as this article cites, with good reason. Alternatives suggested are SystemCleanup, NoBloat, and as the OP pointed out, Titanium Backup.
Good Luck..
thank you for the thread
Hi, i went back to stock everything, and i haven't had a prompt for the update yet. I updated previously, is that the reason why?
= The update you are getting is NOT ICS, it is an update to 2.3.6 and for the Wifi Calling App. == In order for Wifi calling to work you MUST have the New Sim card that came with the phone. If you don't have one go to your T-mobile store and get one. =
Ok what if the next update is ICS and i'm rooted and I want to update? Will it mess anything up if It tries to update?
Thanks, a simple guide with an easy solution.
If you are Low on cash and dont want to pay for titanium backup ... Ultimate Backup Does the job for free
Hello
Just dropping by to say hello and that this thread has been featured on the XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ate-notifications-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
If there were only a version of this that worked on the Epic 4g Touch (Sprint version of SGS II), we're having a problem with that right now.
PoorCollegeGuy said:
Hello
Just dropping by to say hello and that this thread has been featured on the XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ate-notifications-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
If there were only a version of this that worked on the Epic 4g Touch (Sprint version of SGS II), we're having a problem with that right now.
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I noticed, thanks!
Powered by the SGSII....
Titanium is free, and does everything you will need. The donate version is very inexpensive too.
Titanium backup is great! And the pro version that does all the restoring in one go!
Which one do you use?
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Bloat Freezer is definitely not an app to use for freezing the Device management app anymore. An earlier forum post pointed out that it's been pulled from the market, and as this article cites, with good reason. Alternatives suggested are SystemCleanup, NoBloat, and as the OP pointed out, Titanium Backup.
Good Luck..
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jasnn,
Thank you for the heads up. I read that article and seems like this Trey guy is a bit shady. Which one do you use jasnn? I plan on buy Titanium backup in the near future before I start loading custom roms, but I am looking to leave the stock rom for now and just get rid most the t-mobile preinstalled stuff. In all fairness I was pretty impressed with the dnla app allshare and also Kies Air but there was just sooo much preloaded junk.
Ken
thank you so much! it helped alot!
thanks for this
Thank You
Thank you - I am a noob - not only am I learning how to's of T989 but how to let contributors know - again thanks
? i have the sprint GS2 and I tried lookin up the device management in TB like you said top freeze the ota update push but i didnt see it. I am on 2.3.6 stock rooted Gengerbread Eko2 : and all i have in that area is
DRM content 2.3.6
DRM content launcher 1.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.3.6
could anyone of these be what i need to freeze?
Also:
In Es file Explorer i did see a file close to what you said to look for to delete but it was WSSYNCMLNPS.APK instead. is this the one for my fone?
thanks for your help - hate the ota push been trying to figure out how to get rid of it cause i dont want to update.
let me know
StifflerServices said:
? i have the sprint GS2 and I tried lookin up the device management in TB like you said top freeze the ota update push but i didnt see it. I am on 2.3.6 stock rooted Gengerbread Eko2 : and all i have in that area is
DRM content 2.3.6
DRM content launcher 1.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.3.6
could anyone of these be what i need to freeze?
Also:
In Es file Explorer i did see a file close to what you said to look for to delete but it was WSSYNCMLNPS.APK instead. is this the one for my fone?
thanks for your help - hate the ota push been trying to figure out how to get rid of it cause i dont want to update.
let me know
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Do you have Download Manager 2.3.6?
If so try that one.
Are you already on 2.3.6? Because I noticed Device Management is no longer there once I updated to 2.3.6.
But you're on Sprint, so not exactly sure what it's called.
Powered by the SGSII....

link2SD Convert system app ==> user app

hi guys
i checked the link 2SD latest version that enable you to convert system app to user app , then link them to SD card !!
fantastic ! isn't it ?
but i found that converting some system app makes our rom crazy and Force close happening.
my question is , do you know which app's are convert-able and which one isn't ?!
till now , i know that converting phone and home launcher makes sooooo many force close !
can you please share your experience together ?
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
lightningdude said:
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
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thank you
i'm ganna try it again
there is a light , always
neverwinter said:
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
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bricked? if xperia play hardware is not effected in anyway, and you have CWM, unlocked bootloader its never bricked just soft bricked
I tried it on Gmail and it wouldn't do it.
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I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
Rogue Leader said:
I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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Hilariously, that exact question came across my head last night. In all reality I think they are done with it, we are never gonna see 2.3.4 or ICS (although shockingly they still sell it $19.99 w/2 yr in store, or free online w/2yr).
I'm gonna probably go the titanium backup route. I am running out of space severely.
U can try system/app mover on play store,but u need root. It works great! I changed some apps in my Cyanogen nightly build,like messaging app ,or stock camera and even converted Gboard

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http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
Thanks. Looks to have worked flawlessly.
Works great! Thanks!
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http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Works great. As a thank you I used my play credit from the NP Promo to upgrade to SuperSU Pro. hopefully you see that money!
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http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro
Worked perfectly, of course. Thanks as always.
Just saw this today but had already used the other root method here to get it. Either way, thanks for all the hard work you do on everything
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http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Is this assured to work with both LRX21M and LRX21V?
Worked perfectly, and now StickMount is working too. Just played a video off USB in XBMC.
Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.
Pardon my ignorance, but what does this do exactly? ...aside from the obvious "gives you root"...I mean how, what does it do to the system?
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Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.
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Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.
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volwrath said:
Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro
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Do you just download to phone or PC and put the extraction on the Nexus Player to gain root?
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Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Cant find it in the settings anywhere.
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Are you referring to the launcher settings or SuperSU settings there should be an option in SuperSU settings to set the SuperSU icon to invisible.
I just happened to check my system today and had the OTA update from LRX21M to LRX21V waiting. I tried installing it but Recovery stopped halfway through the install with an Error. I got back into Android with a power-cycle, so things are fine, but it's still on 21M.
I'm guessing this was due to having rooted the device. Is there a proper way to remove SuperSU to allow for a system update? I see there are 3 different options for cleaning up; does it particularly matter which one I choose? I could just pick one and try it but I'm kind of curious what the differences are between the options. Anybody know?
Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.
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Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.
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probably a full unroot and flashing the stock boot.img would fully unroot, I wonder when LRX22C (5.0.1) will hit the nexus player
The root is fundamental in all devices for many things, and thanks to Chainfire and others independent developers we can consider Android a semi-open platform. (semi-open because not all is open source)
We don't want Android like the Apple walled garden, but we are not even against the sale of the software, we just want a common garden in which the user can choose and is not obliged.
For example with the root, it was easier to start this project:
Nexus Player with a Full Version of Android Lollipop https://plus.google.com/103019026671039069038/posts/V5XaLxK3vN8
This is just the base rom with all hardware components working, on this base that is very usable, i want add many other options. like external usb webcam and mic, improving the audio part that have fixed volume and many other things useful for the use in TV.
Nexus Player is not just Android TV, but is the first Nexus device with an intel cpu. Is a milestone in the evolution of Android.
This is just the start and I am very open to sharing and collaboration on this project.
Thanks Chainfire for the root and for your "How-To SU" guidelines.
Out of interest will rooting prevent OTA updates from installing in the future?
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Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.
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I did this, despite the warning it gave me. Now although I still get permission dialogs etc, I can not run the main program to delete apps etc from SU access. Is there anyway to go back to the main screen? I went to the apps sections of the NP and unlike other apps it didnt have an open command.
To get it back do I need to uninstall and then re-CFroot?
Thanks. I should pay better attention to dialog boxes but its not a huge deal.

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