Develop Bugs

[Q] Deleting Bloatware after Perma-Root

So being the impatient soul I am, right after I got permanent root, I decided to jump into Titanium Backup and deleted some of the bloatware. I was so impatient, that I totally forgot to backup the system apps I deleted to a backup folder on my SDcard, so now those apks are gone. My question is now, if an OTA becomes available, am I going to have problems again, just like with Paul's Goggles app?
If so, what do you suggest I do? I am guessing now that now root has been achieved, we can install those apps to the system just fine again. Can someone upload these apks for these system apps, so I just feel on the safe side and I have backups? I would greatly appreciate it...
Amazon MP3
Home Screen Tips
Google Sky Map
web2go
Photobucket
Twitter
Of course, if you don't see this as being a problem for the future, please tell me. It would make me feel a lot more secure about things. Thanks!

it shouldnt be a problem, you can re download those in the market

Goddamn it. Now I went to uninstall Email.apk to replace it with an old one that doesn't require remote security, but it keeps giving me an "Application not installed" error, even with the backup of the original.
How do I get it to install?!

KShatzkes said:
Goddamn it. Now I went to uninstall Email.apk to replace it with an old one that doesn't require remote security, but it keeps giving me an "Application not installed" error, even with the backup of the original.
How do I get it to install?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't install system apps, you just move then into /system/app/

its likely if an OTA becomes available a dev will mod it to be flashable to rooted and modified /system/ devices

i would love to know how to get rid of the annoying [email protected]!*& adds

sundar2012 said:
its likely if an OTA becomes available a dev will mod it to be flashable to rooted and modified /system/ devices
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, I feel much better now. Time to play around with this thing! So excited!

Yea if an ota comes out, it will be modded to update the system and skip files not found, if there is a patch.
So your good. I'm just waiting for custom recovery with nandbackup before I start messing n the system. I just hate setting up the phone all over after
And if all else fails you can fastboot flash system.img from the orig pc10img. Wiping all your data and formating ur system. Then updating to ota.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

so what are the commands to enter for removing/deleting the unwanted apps??

kurtis.austin2 said:
so what are the commands to enter for removing/deleting the unwanted apps??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Curious to know this as well.

curious to know

Just use Titanium Backup to uninstall any apps you want. Long click on the app, and an uninstall option will be there.

KShatzkes said:
Just use Titanium Backup to uninstall any apps you want. Long click on the app, and an uninstall option will be there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually already did, but I wanted to know the commands just for personal reference.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

cbmm said:
i would love to know how to get rid of the annoying [email protected]!*& adds
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Download "adfree" in the market. Done.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

[Q] Can't Find Google Talk App

Okay my phone was refreshed and I had to reinstall all my apps. I can't see google talk in the app marketplace. I also can't find it on appbrain.
I searched around for a while to try to figure out what was going on, but can't find much other information about it.
I doubt the app was pulled or i would have probably heard of it.
Can i get a QR code or link to the appstore or an APK or appbrain?

I wish I knew as well. I ended up reflashing my rom to get it back...

OP.... what you need to do is download a rom and extract it.
go into the folder " sytem" then "apps"
get the talk.apk our and either adb install it or put it on your SD card and use root explorer to move it to the system/apps folder on your phone.
Hope this helps

hmmm why would I need to do this? was it pulled from the android marketplace for some reason? i'm just curious, i'm pretty sure I had to load it on my phone before from the marketplace.
i probably will just end up using another messaging client, because I don't really want to go through all that for an app I don't use very much.
in any case thanks for the advice, i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who can't find it..

It has been included in every ROM I've installed. Maybe find it in the gapps pack for Cyanogen?

I'm not even rooted... i'm not using a custom rom.. i'm just using the stock sprint issued evo.
I was having issues with the phone and they restored it to factory defaults which made me lose my apps. The last time i rooted was the intial unrevoked (which later was lost with an OTA update)

No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want

http://cyanogenmod-mirror.local.host.name/gapps/gapps-hdpi-20101025-signed.zip. Must be rooted to flash obviously. Do not know if this zip will work with Sense ROMs. It contains all Google apps (Market, Talk, Google Voice, etc.) Good luck. Not guaranteed that this will work. Use at own risk. Do a backup first.

neodorian said:
No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah i see my problem, i am an idiot. google talk IS preinstalled on the phone. i kept thinking i had to install it, couldnt find it in the market and gave up. i didn't even think to look in the app list on the phone....
that said, yea its about time that i did a proper root. ill have to read up a bit to be sure its easy enough- i have all the OTA updates, and htne ill go for it.
thanks for the replies!

Restoring games after flashing new firmware.

I have not seen any threads about this so I have to ask this now. I am tired of flashing new firmware but then having to update each game over wi-fi all over again. Using root explorer can I just save the files in the mnt\ASEC folder to my SD card & simply restore them after (ex. \mnt\asec\com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftAsp6.asphalt6-1.asec)? Or is it mnt\secure\asec\ com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftAsp6.asphalt6-1.asec? Do I have to change permissions? Is this even the folder that has the full updated data or am I looking in the wrong spot? And then should I install individual game's APK after the transfer?? I would think this would allow someone to save games and share them with other xperia play users as well? Any help is much appreciated.

Why not backup all your games in titanium backup with data before flashing new firmware?

I really did not think of that. :| I know I can restore the app(or game), but would I be able to restore the apps data on a different firmware without getting problems or fc's? Especially when flashing different custom ROM's I know certain apps may not work when you try to restore the data as well.

cyrusalmighty said:
I really did not think of that. :| I know I can restore the app(or game), but would I be able to restore the apps data on a different firmware without getting problems or fc's? Especially when flashing different custom ROM's I know certain apps may not work when you try to restore the data as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Games should be fine when transferring from one ROM to another because games are supposed to run on different devices and they don't really take a phones hardware profile/rom into consideration when running...
I transferred stock to cyanogen and didn't have any issues, Apps like video players/ad blockers/audio player might be a bit of a bother but you could easily reinstall them.

Well this sounds like a good solution to me and its simple too. And since I have always used used titanium backup anyways it would seem I have always had backups to my games. Now you see why I had to ask.lmao. Thanks for pointing this out and hopefully this helps someone else out.

Ok im back to the same question again about where the actual game update data is stored again. I was successful before restoring game on my phone ,but say I want to share my games (that are already updated) with a friend on another xperia play, then is there a folder that I need to manually transfer over to their SD card that has game data? Basically I did backup of the games with "TB" on my phones SD then I put that SD card in other xplay,restored to root of phone, booted up game fine without need to update over wifi message but after reboot. I got the same damn message.... ??
*EDIT**
After reading on different sites I think that on the SD card I have to have a folder called Gameloft/Games/(x). X will be a specific folder for game (EX.GloftA6HP for Asphalt 6, Modern Combat 2: Black Pegasus is Games/GloftBPHP ). Without this Data file in proper place I guess you are forced to do updates over like me.lol. If anyone cares. Hope it helps.
Sent from my R800a using xda premium

Understanding more after root

So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.

dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.

For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.

Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice

dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.

Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?

dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.

now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?

dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.

Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.

[Q] SPH-L710T gaaps not working.

hey guys im here again with another question about this crap variant of the S3 -.- (personal feelings its so hard to do anything on this device and there is little information about this phone)
anyway my google apps are not working AT all. i had my phone rooted and i used lucky patcher to patch my google play store for INapp and INlvl purchases and installed a modified play store. around the same time i used a game hacking app called freedom.apk and i read that u had to combine that with market unlocker.apk... it worked out for a bit and everything was fiine then i uninstalled freedom.apk and marketunlocker.apk and then ALL my google apps suddenly stopped working. i have unrooted and factory reset my phone but its still having issues with ALL the gapps saying there is a network error and they can not connect to the server and my wifi settings are not the issue i have checked them over many times.
i also must say because i think the issue lies here.
i was messing around with lucky patcher and tried to modified Arcane legends and i put it as a system app on accident and i forgot to move it back before i reset the phone (i honestly didnt know i did that until after the reset) well after the reset its still on my phone (ive factory reset the phone multiple times unless im not doing it right but im pretty sure i am)
a budy of mine told after i patched the play store im supposed to do other steps that i didnt know but idk im stumped and ive finally decided to ask for help
please any help on this issue is much appreciated i cant even recover my contacts now or anything cuz they are all saved to google -.-...
UPDATED:
i found out how to fix this issue. i had completely forgotten that i had used an ad-blocker on lucky patcher. when i disabled it after re-downloading the app i was able to download all the gaaps and stuff again and recover my stuff from google.

dev-meepo said:
hey guys im here again with another question about this crap variant of the S3 -.- (personal feelings its so hard to do anything on this device and there is little information about this phone)
anyway my google apps are not working AT all. i had my phone rooted and i used lucky patcher to patch my google play store for INapp and INlvl purchases and installed a modified play store. around the same time i used a game hacking app called freedom.apk and i read that u had to combine that with market unlocker.apk... it worked out for a bit and everything was fiine then i uninstalled freedom.apk and marketunlocker.apk and then ALL my google apps suddenly stopped working. i have unrooted and factory reset my phone but its still having issues with ALL the gapps saying there is a network error and they can not connect to the server and my wifi settings are not the issue i have checked them over many times.
i also must say because i think the issue lies here.
i was messing around with lucky patcher and tried to modified Arcane legends and i put it as a system app on accident and i forgot to move it back before i reset the phone (i honestly didnt know i did that until after the reset) well after the reset its still on my phone (ive factory reset the phone multiple times unless im not doing it right but im pretty sure i am)
a budy of mine told after i patched the play store im supposed to do other steps that i didnt know but idk im stumped and ive finally decided to ask for help
please any help on this issue is much appreciated i cant even recover my contacts now or anything cuz they are all saved to google -.-...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First don't say you use apps to get paid apps for free cause you will be shunned...now in this instance i'm glad you mentioned it cause now we can clear up those apps you mentioned.....right now most apps work against those hack apps so you won't be able to get free paid apps or in app purchases. That being said never combine freedom.apk and marketunlocker.apk that's a definite no no it will cause problems. If you move apps to the system and you factory reset those apps won't disappear cause a normal factory reset in recovery doesn't delete system files and LuckyPatcher.apk will break most apps if you don't know what you're changing.
Now either if your in PhilZ recovery do a full wipe clean install about 4 times then reinstall the rom/backup before everything went to ****
--OR--
Odin back to Stock and redo everything from scratch, i know longer process but this is the only other option.

6th_Hokage said:
First don't say you use apps to get paid apps for free cause you will be shunned...now in this instance i'm glad you mentioned it cause now we can clear up those apps you mentioned.....right now most apps work against those hack apps so you won't be able to get free paid apps or in app purchases. That being said never combine freedom.apk and marketunlocker.apk that's a definite no no it will cause problems. If you move apps to the system and you factory reset those apps won't disappear cause a normal factory reset in recovery doesn't delete system files and LuckyPatcher.apk will break most apps if you don't know what you're changing.
Now either if your in PhilZ recovery do a full wipe clean install about 4 times then reinstall the rom/backup before everything went to ****
--OR--
Odin back to Stock and redo everything from scratch, i know longer process but this is the only other option.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im honestly having trouble re routing my phone after the wipe ... i noticed tho my previous root was also kinda glitchy some apps i had wouldn't recognize root permission n stuff... i used the srsroot program for windows i think u comented on my last post i did about it. anyway if u could clear it up for me if i flash the CF-auto-root file for the SPH-l710 will it work ive read some peoples it does some it doesn't.
when i did research on freedom i came across some stuff that said to combine it with market unlocker because freedom didnt work in the states or something. and then after i uninstalled it i read people having the issues im having.
yea im learning that slowly with lucky patcher ive broke some apps messing around with them. but i try to research first before i mess around with stuff ive learnd u cant get free platinum in games like arcane legends but ive done it on bloons TD. im just doing it for fun and just to see if i can... i normaly just delete the app after anyway i hardly play mobile games. thanks for the information about being shunned n stuff i should of figured that people would look down upon it but i tend to be honest about what i do

dev-meepo said:
im honestly having trouble re routing my phone after the wipe ... i noticed tho my previous root was also kinda glitchy some apps i had wouldn't recognize root permission n stuff... i used the srsroot program for windows i think u comented on my last post i did about it. anyway if u could clear it up for me if i flash the CF-auto-root file for the SPH-l710 will it work ive read some peoples it does some it doesn't.
when i did research on freedom i came across some stuff that said to combine it with market unlocker because freedom didnt work in the states or something. and then after i uninstalled it i read people having the issues im having.
yea im learning that slowly with lucky patcher ive broke some apps messing around with them. but i try to research first before i mess around with stuff ive learnd u cant get free platinum in games like arcane legends but ive done it on bloons TD. im just doing it for fun and just to see if i can... i normaly just delete the app after anyway i hardly play mobile games. thanks for the information about being shunned n stuff i should of figured that people would look down upon it but i tend to be honest about what i do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
honestly all you need to do to root is Odin back to stock NF4 since you have the T model and then Odin the latest Official PhilZ touch and use the re-root option that it has then your rooted on stock and if you flash a custom rom chances are that it will be rooted lol

6th_Hokage said:
honestly all you need to do to root is Odin back to stock NF4 since you have the T model and then Odin the latest Official PhilZ touch and use the re-root option that it has then your rooted on stock and if you flash a custom rom chances are that it will be rooted lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have phillz on my phone already and my device says its custom but the super SU app wont work but i haven't tried to re root it how u suggested it i didn't even think about that tbh ive been busy and tryin to fix this so im all everywhere lol. .. ima try it and come back with the results

6th_Hokage said:
honestly all you need to do to root is Odin back to stock NF4 since you have the T model and then Odin the latest Official PhilZ touch and use the re-root option that it has then your rooted on stock and if you flash a custom rom chances are that it will be rooted lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey hokage i been busy havent had time to reply.
so i have verified im rooted. i got the latest version of SU on my phone.
i still cant log onto any of my gaaps... i cant even update any of my apps at all when i try to one said "there was a problem parsing the package."... when i use a app like lucky patcher when i open it it says "sd card not detected. limited functionality!"

dev-meepo said:
hey hokage i been busy havent had time to reply.
so i have verified im rooted. i got the latest version of SU on my phone.
i still cant log onto any of my gaaps... i cant even update any of my apps at all when i try to one said "there was a problem parsing the package."... when i use a app like lucky patcher when i open it it says "sd card not detected. limited functionality!"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm....that's strange I'll do some reasearch about what your getting and I'll get back to you

6th_Hokage said:
Hmmm....that's strange I'll do some reasearch about what your getting and I'll get back to you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank u man. Ive been tearing my hair out over this for awhile... ive tried alot of things except flashing a new rom to my phone...

Just a quick note. Its so very important to make a backup before playing or changing things around. I know this may not help at the moment but just think if you would have took 10 mins and did a backup you could have restored your phone back to its working condition. So please remember to ALWAYS do yourself the favor of taking the few extra mins to make a backup FIRST THING.... I wish i knew more about gapps to helo you out but i dont. I stay as close to stock as i can.... Good luck my friend. I wish you the best. But remember to do a backup next time
¤[SPH-L710T_4.4.2_NF4]¤
¤[STOCK_ROOTED_DEODEXED]¤