undervolting and overvolting deisre!? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i wanted to know what are the optimum frequencies or voltages for desire ..to save maximum battery life. i am using incredicontrol,

How many different threads do you need to ask about power?
Kernel, Undervolting and battery drain could all have fit into 1 neat thread.

rootSU said:
How many different threads do you need to ask about power?
Kernel, Undervolting and battery drain could all have fit into 1 neat thread.
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i am so sorry, i just posted as the possiblities came to my mind.
can you please help.?

Each desire is different. What one can handle voltage wise, another may not.
My minimum threshold on AOSP is 875mA

rootSU said:
Each desire is different. What one can handle voltage wise, another may not.
My minimum threshold on AOSP is 875mA
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thanks man.
but what about the kernel.. i heard about the manU kernel..is it better than droidzones 3.5 sense kernel..??

Dr. div11 said:
thanks man.
but what about the kernel.. i heard about the manU kernel..is it better than droidzones 3.5 sense kernel..??
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I doubt you heard that. ManU kernel is for AOSP Roms. Droidzone is for Sense Roms. They are incompatible. If you are using AOSP roms (non-sense) then I recommend ManU, like i use.

rootSU said:
I doubt you heard that. ManU kernel is for AOSP Roms. Droidzone is for Sense Roms. They are incompatible. If you are using AOSP roms (non-sense) then I recommend ManU, like i use.
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thanks man.. il be using the sense 3.5 by droidzone.

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Whats the Best Kernel for battery life???

I need to know the best kernel i'm currently on netarchy's 4.18 i and I have seen kingkilcks but I flash his #8 cfs but it made my phone lag alot and #7 seem to run battery down, but I can't be positive cuz I didn't run it for more than an hour...basically I wanna know wut's the best kernel for battery life? or opinions at least
Running snaps 7.5 or. 6 don't recall ATM but the battery life is crazy
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Kings #9 is pretty close to the new stock kernel ...
I'm having the best luck with Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 beta on my 002 EVO. I don't even have to use SetCPU to underclock for more battery that's how nice the kernel is.
I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!
squiggie said:
I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!
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okay i will but then how would I over clock the fone, or should i just not set up profiles?
Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?
Ddt928 said:
Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?
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Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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mkeena0305 said:
Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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thnx that makes sense
I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.
SouthPhilly said:
I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.
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If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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martyzidek said:
If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?
hockeyfreak said:
I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?
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no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.
Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.
loonert said:
Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.
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wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.
dkdude36 said:
wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.
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Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done
loonert said:
Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done
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oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.
I am getting good results with ziggy (calkulin rom) and suggesting to try it.
dkdude36 said:
oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.
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Most of the time i do use Cyanogenmod instead because, everybody knows, it has a wayyyyyy better battery life. Sense needs an app freezer, like titanium backup pro, so that they dont just start up again.
dkdude36 said:
no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.
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I'm not opposed to using a different rom, I just haven't gotten in to that area yet. Where's a good place to read about "sense" and different types of roms and reasons for using particular ones? Appearance I guess is the main reason? I'm just about ready to dive of this cliff. Thanks!

Overclock

Can u overclock the dinc and if u can how do u do it. Thanks in advance
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There are a couple of ways to overclock the dInc, but it depends on which kernel you use and what ROM you have. For froyo, Ziggy's are probably the best. Tiamat is very nice for AOSP gingerbread. An app called SetCPU can be found for free to XDA members on here. Just Google it. There's also a couple free apps on the market. If you're still using froyo, I suggest only Ziggy's because his will allow you to use scripts to change the speed and the voltage at every step and he lays it all out very nicely, including samples that you can just edit and mix together. The benefit of the script is it doesn't use system resources like an app would.
Pushing it to 1.153 should be hard with most kernels so long as they aren't undervolted. Some devices are stable at 1.19 and some even higher. Few will exceed 1.19 though. Overclocking and tweaking kernels can be an interesting thing. Most kernels with a sysfs or ramdisk will allow some kind of scripting. Definitely check out Chad's IncrediControl.
Another good kernel for ASOP Roms (both gingerbread and Froyo) is Incredikernel. Always check and see if the Rom you want to overclockable and if it doesn't say in the OP ask the creator of the Rom, they'd be happy to help you out. Also, make sure you know the correct way to flash a kernel. It's the same way you flash a Rom, so it shouldn't give you any trouble. Happy Flashing and Overclocking!
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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No prob! Always happy to help!
evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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I thought about that, but I wasn't for sure. Thanks for the info.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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ALRIGHT thanks for the info guess ill just have to wait cause I love sense 3.0.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.
loonatik78 said:
Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.
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could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please
tribbey said:
could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please
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http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=278&t=2063
It's not available on XDA anymore. I'm actually running Ziggy's kernel on it now. I'm gonna change my sig in a second.
I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.
vince47 said:
I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.
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On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.
loonatik78 said:
On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.
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Notion seconded
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Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?
baboonsRus said:
Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?
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Doesn't really matter. Quadrant, linpack... you're comparing same setup to same setup. An overclock on one isn't going to yield comparatively different results when compared to any other... at least it SHOULDN'T.
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Your milage may vary, but usually when things become unstable you can't really naviagte to anything and you get a bunch of reboots, or so it has been in my case, but again YMMV.
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piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Every kernel dev has his own choices for kernel voltage and that's usually the single biggest variable in what stable will be. 1.113 should be stable for most devices though.
Thanks for the responses. I tried 1.113 on CM7 (7.0.3) on my Incredible and I started getting constant reboots. I put it back to 998. Maybe I'll try another setting later.

[Q][HTC Desire][MIUI Rom][Kernel] Which kernel is optimal for powersave and oc?

Which kernel is optimal for powersave and oc?
Tiamat 4.1.0 or ManU 2.0 Kernel?
for me cm7.1 kernel is most optimal, and miui of course.
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ManU-Kernel is very good, but I recommend to test yourself (at least one week each, kernels need some time to stabilize themselves).
Thanks
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for me cm7.1 kernel is most optimal, and miui of course.
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Thanks for your advise. CM7.1 kernel is stable but the battery management is definitely not the best.
I made such comments because I had Nexus S as well and flashed -=NexusMV [1.11.30]=- Rom which overall performance is better than original CM rom.
Thanks!
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ManU-Kernel is very good, but I recommend to test yourself (at least one week each, kernels need some time to stabilize themselves).
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I had tried Tiamat 4.1 kernel for more than a week. I have found the battery performance is slightly better than the original kernel from my MIUI rom but still not good enough...
I will try ManU kernel and see if this works better.
After the battery performance, I will try to OC a little bit.
Most recommend version of the ManU-kernel is the HAVS-AXI-CFS one.
Thanks again!
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Most recommend version of the ManU-kernel is the HAVS-AXI-CFS one.
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Besides, if Radio version is also an issue about battery live?
I am now using the latest one: Radio_bravo_32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
Original HTC Sense Android 2.2 rom from HK: 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23
Never heard about it. IMHO radio should only be changed if their appears a problem which is radio (=hardware) connected. Battery life is not connected to hardware, but very strongly to the kernel one is using.
MatDrOiD said:
Never heard about it. IMHO radio should only be changed if their appears a problem which is radio (=hardware) connected. Battery life is not connected to hardware, but very strongly to the kernel one is using.
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It is connected to the radio as well. Radio can be updated if the user has a wish to do so. The ril is the one which should be best left alone.
@op - make your mind. You asked a question about two things that are a contradiction one to another.
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erklat said:
It is connected to the radio as well. Radio can be updated if the user has a wish to do so. The ril is the one which should be best left alone.
@op - make your mind. You asked a question about two things that are a contradiction one to another.
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Good to know, thanks. As I said, never heard / read a radio update could change the battery life.
Im running MIUI AU and I find that the best kernel is the ManU 1.4 HAVS-AXI-CFS. I've tried both 1.4 and 2.0 but 1.4 seems to yeild the best results.
Hope this helps.

Fastest custom rom?

Hi just wondering what is the fastest custom rom on the Desire?
Feeling or quadrant?
If feeling, definitely dGB. Never used a smoother rom.
If quadrant, I do not know because I do not care about quadrant.
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Yeah, I second that.
Oxygen was fastest before and dGB is a derivative of Oxygen. The kernel that comes with it is also superb. It's optimized for battery life. The only other kernel worth trying besides it would be Tiamat. But there really is no need for that.
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dGB is NOT a derivative of Oxygen! That would be MildWild. The rest applies.
Definitely the ones in my signature. I am talking sense roms, of course.
As a side note, the only aosp rom I have tried is mildwild, and I did not find it faster than my current rom. ;-)
dGB ROM smooth and light weight. No frills. Barebones with sensible modifications. I decided to give it a spin last night and it's the smoothest AOSP rom I've used. I immediately felt the difference the moment I had all my apps installed. Unlike others that slows down a bit when you fill your phone with apps, this one's fast.
xelra said:
dGB is a derivative of Oxygen..
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Nope.
I Don't Have Facts to Back This Up...
but the fastest I used so far is MildWild 2.9.5.
But I never tried dGB, so I can't compare them.
Use CM 7.0.3 for long battery life and fast response! Stable too.
malso said:
I Don't Have Facts to Back This Up...
but the fastest I used so far is MildWild 2.9.5.
But I never tried dGB, so I can't compare them.
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Since real world speed can only be measured by perception, no one can ask you for facts
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rootSU said:
xelra said:
dGB is a derivative of Oxygen..
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Nope.
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Yeah sorry, for some reason I had MildWild on my mind when I wrote that.
Nonetheless, dGB is fastest!
Sorry for the confusion. No offense.
None taken. Oxygen is a great Rom
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aosop roms are usually the faster roms but i find they are stripped down to much .
oxygen - found this to be overall consistent in performance
mildwild -based of oxygen
redux - choppy when lw wallpapers are set
dgb - slightly faster performance then oxygen in my opinion
i would like to add 'Supreme desire' for speed (CM7 based). been using a while and amazed with the speed and stability.
Redux2 test build. Period.
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Period.
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Period? How so?
Honestly, in the really end it depends on your personal usage. Such as, the amount of apps you've got installed, etc. I would say PURE AOSP roms are always the fastest, some of these roms are Oxygen, dGB, CyanogenMOD7, etc. I'm not sure about MIUI since I've never tried it before. If you want a ROM that's good looking try MIUI or a sense rom. I like the Runnymede AIO Special Edition ROM "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961".
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Period? How so?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Period
Period may mean a full stop: a punctuation in American-English.
That mean, Redux 2 test is fastest aosp I ever tried.
Gusta_HR said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Period
Period may mean a full stop: a punctuation in American-English.
That mean, Redux 2 test is fastest aosp I ever tried.
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I know what "period" means. But it doesn't mean its the fastest YOU tried. It means the fastest ever, second to none. Not the same. Substantial claims
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i'd recommend mildwild's oxxy or cm7 based roms. at least 2.8 used to be solid as a rock. very fast and low battery drain
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actually it would be nice if someone knew a link to mw's 2.8 version of CM7? he's for some reason beta testing a new launcher in 3.0 making the rom less usable
rootSU said:
I know what "period" means. But it doesn't mean its the fastest YOU tried. It means the fastest ever, second to none. Not the same. Substantial claims
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Look m8... i tried EVERY AOSP ROM i could find here on this forum.. cm7, gingervillan, dgb...even miui... and i found old Redux to be fast enough for my needs
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[Q] kernel flashing

hi
flashed tonnes of roms for my desire - whats the benefit of chenging the kernel??
Potential for:
Better performance
Lower power usage
General overall efficiency
kernel
cheers!
im running mildwild cm3.3 - any recomendations for kernel?
i was thinking about ""2.6.35.13-ManU-2.1-GB-HAVS-AXI-128-CFS"" ??
sgill74 said:
cheers!
im running mildwild cm3.3 - any recomendations for kernel?
i was thinking about ""2.6.35.13-ManU-2.1-GB-HAVS-AXI-128-CFS"" ??
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For CM, dGB, Redux 1.2, thats definitely what I would go for, yep. Just have a good read of the firts post or so of that thread as lots of cool information about lowering voltages and stuff....
Thanks!
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how does one know whick kernel is suited to which ROM then? Or is it just trial and error?
For me, it's trial and error....I don't understand the jargon
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rootSU said:
Potential for:
Better performance
Lower power usage
General overall efficiency
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Great answer boss...As always...
eteyen1 said:
how does one know whick kernel is suited to which ROM then? Or is it just trial and error?
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There's no better benefits than experimentation and readings. Read the threads that contain valuable information and u will gain knowledge. Knowledge will be implemented to your experiments and thus u will have a better kernel combination in your disposal.

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