hi
flashed tonnes of roms for my desire - whats the benefit of chenging the kernel??
Potential for:
Better performance
Lower power usage
General overall efficiency
kernel
cheers!
im running mildwild cm3.3 - any recomendations for kernel?
i was thinking about ""2.6.35.13-ManU-2.1-GB-HAVS-AXI-128-CFS"" ??
sgill74 said:
cheers!
im running mildwild cm3.3 - any recomendations for kernel?
i was thinking about ""2.6.35.13-ManU-2.1-GB-HAVS-AXI-128-CFS"" ??
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For CM, dGB, Redux 1.2, thats definitely what I would go for, yep. Just have a good read of the firts post or so of that thread as lots of cool information about lowering voltages and stuff....
Thanks!
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how does one know whick kernel is suited to which ROM then? Or is it just trial and error?
For me, it's trial and error....I don't understand the jargon
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rootSU said:
Potential for:
Better performance
Lower power usage
General overall efficiency
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Great answer boss...As always...
eteyen1 said:
how does one know whick kernel is suited to which ROM then? Or is it just trial and error?
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There's no better benefits than experimentation and readings. Read the threads that contain valuable information and u will gain knowledge. Knowledge will be implemented to your experiments and thus u will have a better kernel combination in your disposal.
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Can anywone tell me a best rom for save battery ?
Now i have Oxygen 2.3.1 Bravo
I would think the Oxygen you're using would be one of the better one's for battery life. Don't go for Sense rom's as they'll drain your battery real quick.
Well anything oxygen based, or the gingervillan roms
Took me a week to finally get it right, but I've managed to get both speed, stability n a Schweeet batterylife
If I get the time this weekend, ill post how I did it, and all the steps from stock, out of the box, to end product
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I find that the insert coin rom isn't too bad on battery life. Well version 1.1.1 isn't. not sure on the newer versions though
Most AOSP ROMS have great battery life. But much of the battery life is to do with the kernel too, so picking a good kernel is paramount.
I'd agree on the kernel bit, but also, how you have android configured in general around it can have a noticeable effect.
The right rom, kernel, and also userspace setup/configuration all adds up
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Also black background for AMOLED screens is worth adding to the list.
Im curious guys on this battery subject?
I'm currently using aurora V3 but even before that I'm lucky to get a day out of it.
What potential increases am I looking at here?
Many thanks
cha0seng said:
Im curious guys on this battery subject?
I'm currently using aurora V3 but even before that I'm lucky to get a day out of it.
What potential increases am I looking at here?
Many thanks
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There is no way to guess or add a multiplier from your rom ro another to see potential increase unfortunately. It all depends how you use the phone. If the screen is on all the time, you wont see any increase in battery life as ROMs and kernels cannot control the amount of battery a Screen uses. This is a constant.
ROMs and kernels optimise CPU so that les spower is used, therefore things that use CPU will affectively waste less power.
The only way to test / compare is to flash something else and use it the same as you do every day.
rootSU said:
There is no way to guess or add a multiplier from your rom ro another to see potential increase unfortunately. It all depends how you use the phone. If the screen is on all the time, you wont see any increase in battery life as ROMs and kernels cannot control the amount of battery a Screen uses. This is a constant.
ROMs and kernels optimise CPU so that les spower is used, therefore things that use CPU will affectively waste less power.
The only way to test / compare is to flash something else and use it the same as you do every day.
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Thanks for the info; need to do abit of research into this kernel business as I've seen them mentioned alot and nodded in agreement (I have no idea!)
Click the link to guides in my signature. Read the kernel info thread. May help
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I don't mind if anyone throws me a pm in regards to seeking more out of the Desire.
And rootSU, we could always do a combined guide on the Desire and how to get the best out of it, if you like
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Ah I've got my share of guides out there. It's your turn now
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rootSU said:
Most AOSP ROMS have great battery life. But much of the battery life is to do with the kernel too, so picking a good kernel is paramount.
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Totally agree.
Aww ur no fun rootSU
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Lemme see what I can do this weekend
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Should I go from the assumption rootSU that the ppl will have a stock phone, or alrdy root obtained?
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Should I go from the assumption rootSU that the ppl will have a stock phone, or alrdy root obtained?
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You could assume stock, then at the bottom add root only and mention kernels and set CPU, autokiller, autostarts etc etc
Rightyo, need to do shopping but will be back shortly
Might see what i can work out
AOSP roms are the best for battery of course, but if you like SenseUi, I recommend You InsertCoin 1.1.4 and kernel from -SNQ, (his kernels are better for battery from bananacakes)
Which kernel is optimal for powersave and oc?
Tiamat 4.1.0 or ManU 2.0 Kernel?
for me cm7.1 kernel is most optimal, and miui of course.
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ManU-Kernel is very good, but I recommend to test yourself (at least one week each, kernels need some time to stabilize themselves).
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creckkkk said:
for me cm7.1 kernel is most optimal, and miui of course.
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Thanks for your advise. CM7.1 kernel is stable but the battery management is definitely not the best.
I made such comments because I had Nexus S as well and flashed -=NexusMV [1.11.30]=- Rom which overall performance is better than original CM rom.
Thanks!
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ManU-Kernel is very good, but I recommend to test yourself (at least one week each, kernels need some time to stabilize themselves).
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I had tried Tiamat 4.1 kernel for more than a week. I have found the battery performance is slightly better than the original kernel from my MIUI rom but still not good enough...
I will try ManU kernel and see if this works better.
After the battery performance, I will try to OC a little bit.
Most recommend version of the ManU-kernel is the HAVS-AXI-CFS one.
Thanks again!
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Most recommend version of the ManU-kernel is the HAVS-AXI-CFS one.
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Besides, if Radio version is also an issue about battery live?
I am now using the latest one: Radio_bravo_32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
Original HTC Sense Android 2.2 rom from HK: 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23
Never heard about it. IMHO radio should only be changed if their appears a problem which is radio (=hardware) connected. Battery life is not connected to hardware, but very strongly to the kernel one is using.
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Never heard about it. IMHO radio should only be changed if their appears a problem which is radio (=hardware) connected. Battery life is not connected to hardware, but very strongly to the kernel one is using.
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It is connected to the radio as well. Radio can be updated if the user has a wish to do so. The ril is the one which should be best left alone.
@op - make your mind. You asked a question about two things that are a contradiction one to another.
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It is connected to the radio as well. Radio can be updated if the user has a wish to do so. The ril is the one which should be best left alone.
@op - make your mind. You asked a question about two things that are a contradiction one to another.
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Good to know, thanks. As I said, never heard / read a radio update could change the battery life.
Im running MIUI AU and I find that the best kernel is the ManU 1.4 HAVS-AXI-CFS. I've tried both 1.4 and 2.0 but 1.4 seems to yeild the best results.
Hope this helps.
i wanted to know what are the optimum frequencies or voltages for desire ..to save maximum battery life. i am using incredicontrol,
How many different threads do you need to ask about power?
Kernel, Undervolting and battery drain could all have fit into 1 neat thread.
rootSU said:
How many different threads do you need to ask about power?
Kernel, Undervolting and battery drain could all have fit into 1 neat thread.
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i am so sorry, i just posted as the possiblities came to my mind.
can you please help.?
Each desire is different. What one can handle voltage wise, another may not.
My minimum threshold on AOSP is 875mA
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Each desire is different. What one can handle voltage wise, another may not.
My minimum threshold on AOSP is 875mA
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thanks man.
but what about the kernel.. i heard about the manU kernel..is it better than droidzones 3.5 sense kernel..??
Dr. div11 said:
thanks man.
but what about the kernel.. i heard about the manU kernel..is it better than droidzones 3.5 sense kernel..??
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I doubt you heard that. ManU kernel is for AOSP Roms. Droidzone is for Sense Roms. They are incompatible. If you are using AOSP roms (non-sense) then I recommend ManU, like i use.
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I doubt you heard that. ManU kernel is for AOSP Roms. Droidzone is for Sense Roms. They are incompatible. If you are using AOSP roms (non-sense) then I recommend ManU, like i use.
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thanks man.. il be using the sense 3.5 by droidzone.
Hello guys I just switched to HTC One X and currently on stock ROM. As for my taste I don't like to stay on that, I found difficult too to choose the best ROM available here, I'm confused actually. I'm new to HTC flashing stuffs and I want to prevent flashing then unhappy with it, because when that happens I have no idea yet to return to stock. So I just want a little tips from you guys based on daily used.
I would like:
-Good Battery Life
-Ultimate Gaming Performance that I can play Asphalt 8 (High) with no lag
Thank you guys and appreciate your suggestions...
I'm noob and this is the best I can do for now, ask
jirald said:
Hello guys I just switched to HTC One X and currently on stock ROM. As for my taste I don't like to stay on that, I found difficult too to choose the best ROM available here, I'm confused actually. I'm new to HTC flashing stuffs and I want to prevent flashing then unhappy with it, because when that happens I have no idea yet to return to stock. So I just want a little tips from you guys based on daily used.
I would like:
-Good Battery Life
-Ultimate Gaming Performance that I can play Asphalt 8 (High) with no lag
Thank you guys and appreciate your suggestions...
I'm noob and this is the best I can do for now, ask
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You cannot have both at same time: heavy gaming will drain battery significantly, and good battery comes with sacrifying certain performance.
- If you prefer gaming, try XM kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731
- Good battery life, try Alex V kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226360
Also, make some tweaks (under/overclock) of cpu/gpu to best suits your needs, but do with caution as wrong settings can damage your phone.
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xb2 said:
You cannot have both at same time: heavy gaming will drain battery significantly, and good battery comes with sacrifying certain performance.
- If you prefer gaming, try XM kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731
- Good battery life, try Alex V kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226360
Also, make some tweaks (under/overclock) of cpu/gpu to best suits your needs, but do with caution as wrong settings can damage your phone.
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Oh my...thank you so much. But after reading reviews about HOX heating up problems, maybe this time I prefer not to overclock.
Guess I'd go with Alex-V Kernel but what are the ROMs compatible with it? It didn't mention on the thread
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Oh my...thank you so much. But after reading reviews about HOX heating up problems, maybe this time I prefer not to overclock.
Guess I'd go with Alex-V Kernel but what are the ROMs compatible with it? It didn't mention on the thread
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Alex V kernel is for any sense 5 rom. So far stock and viper is fully working.
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Alex V kernel is for any sense 5 rom. So far stock and viper is fully working.
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there you go...thank you so much!!!
Just hope everything goes well
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Hi everybody!
In your opinion, what is the best KitKat ROM for our old Desire in term of performance and stability?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Cheers
zinconnu said:
Hi everybody!
In your opinion, what is the best KitKat ROM for our old Desire in term of performance and stability?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Cheers
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Better to try out the roms ur self.
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lilsafbig said:
Better to try out the roms ur self.
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That was not really the answer i expected. But thanks anyway.
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That was not really the answer i expected. But thanks anyway.
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But they all have bugs if u want a stable Rom then its better to stick to gb.
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But they all have bugs if u want a stable Rom then its better to stick to gb.
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I know that. That is why i asked about "Kitkat". Not to have "Gb is the best".
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That was not really the answer i expected. But thanks anyway.
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Not really the answer you expected, but still the best one. People's rom requirements are different because we all use devices differently.
Therefore what's best for some users may not be best for you. User opinions have very limited usefulness, and very few users will have even tried and compared all the kitkat roms just for you.
In all this time waiting, you could have made a nandroid backup, and played around with all the ROMs for yourself, from your own opinion of performance and stability from your own experience. This way you find the 'best rom' for your needs, not someone else's... :good:
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People's rom requirements are different because we all use devices differently.
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Again, i just asked about performances and stability. No special "requirements". I already tried 3 KitKat ROMs, it was just to have some additional user experiences.
Evervolv is the best for me
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Try carbon Rom.
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Again, i just asked about performances and stability. No special "requirements". I already tried 3 KitKat ROMs, it was just to have some additional user experiences.
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Performance and stability is also subjective and varies hugely between users, there's no standard...
It still comes down to how the user uses their device. For instance, someone might say a ROM is laggy, but they're running high end games which the phone was never designed for, and is not really even a ROM issue. Others' definition of stable can include the occasional reboot / freeze, though this could be unacceptable for you. These are just examples, you may believe they're helpful to your choice, but again no user will have exactly the same usage pattern as you, so their experience will have limited usefulness for your setup.
Put another way, how many replies are you expecting in this thread on all the different kitkat ROMs before you are able to decide, assuming they have tried them all and are able to compare objectively? And if you've already tried 3 kitkat ROMs, why do you (still) need additional user experiences of others who use their phones differently to you?
And you can apply this logic to all device / ROM / kernel combinations in the future