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Apps so buggy

Ive had so many apps that suck so bad, they are so buggy and barely work. Such as Opentable, podcast, and several others. Makes me weary to even purchase full apps even though you can try them. Most apps available suck anyways.
I need:
Best buy app
Chipotle app
Panera bread app
Good podcast app
Good radio app
Good turn by turn navigation app
Opentable that actually works
and im sure there are several apps that I would like to use but not yet available, marketplace is full of bull crap. lets get some stuff people will actually use on a daily basis.

This whole market place concept is a bust.. just because it worked for iphone dosent necessarily mean it will work for wp7. They said marketing stuff like 'oh we have 6000 applications in marketplace!' Reality is its not even worth except for more than 1-2 of them to even download and waste time on.

937dytboi said:
Ive had so many apps that suck so bad, they are so buggy and barely work. Such as Opentable, podcast, and several others. Makes me weary to even purchase full apps even though you can try them. Most apps available suck anyways.
I need:
Best buy app
Chipotle app
Panera bread app
Good podcast app
Good radio app
Good turn by turn navigation app
Opentable that actually works
and im sure there are several apps that I would like to use but not yet available, marketplace is full of bull crap. lets get some stuff people will actually use on a daily basis.
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Zune is great for podcasts. What do you want a podcast app to do? The Maps app has great TBT nav - no voice, though.

937dytboi said:
Good radio app
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I'm going to guess you don't like the radio that's already in there.

This is the kind of thing that may suck on WP7 phones for a little while...but i expected that didnt you?
The iphone apps were all full of crap when they first came out....it took time for people to get used to making them, I think the promising thing is that big companies are starting to bother making apps, so it shows people are getting serious.
I read it in an article that MS is a software company and if theres anyone who is going to be able to make it work at this sort of 'late entry' into the market its them.
I have at least 12 APPS I really like and that I use all the time
I think we are just guna have to wait for a bit

The marketplace idea is not a bust.
Developers who want to earn money selling their apps and games have a better chance when all the customers are funneled to one place, as opposed to having to search obscure sites, to find their product.
At that point, it's up to the developer to try to make a compelling enough product for the customer to think it's worth purchasing.
For the customer, they could go to one place to look for anything that is currently available for their phone. They can try out any application without risk, and if they feel that the product is worthy, they can purchase it easily. The rules for purchasing each app/game will be universal. They don't have to go through different payment processes with different companies.

Purple11 said:
Reality is its not even worth except for more than 1-2 of them to even download and waste time on.
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Really? So which one or two out of the following do you feel is worth downloading?
Twitter
Facebook
Youtube
Microsoft Tag Reader
Adobe Reader
Shazam
IGN
IMDb
eBay
Flixter
These are just some of the apps I couldn't live without - however, if you manage to witter it down to 1 or 2 I'll post an updated list of all my "important" apps. Although, IMO, 99% of people would have maxed their 2 apps from the top 5 in the list above.

emigrating said:
Really? So which one or two out of the following do you feel is worth downloading?
Twitter
Facebook
Youtube
Microsoft Tag Reader
Adobe Reader
Shazam
IGN
IMDb
eBay
Flixter
These are just some of the apps I couldn't live without - however, if you manage to witter it down to 1 or 2 I'll post an updated list of all my "important" apps. Although, IMO, 99% of people would have maxed their 2 apps from the top 5 in the list above.
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This and more and more and more.
OP and hater beneath him, you're just being a little narrow minded tbh.

given that A LOT of the applications are data based, how is your network coverage? is it quite patchy? if so, this would explain why a lot of applications appear very bad constantly not responding/loading data.
as for the market place, i think it's a bit of a good and bad thing. the iPhone model is good for itself, but WP can't copy it completely because of the differences it has. for example, WP offers in app trial mode. this needs to be made more promonent and needs to encourage the end user that these apps work as a trial. with this, then more people who list their apps as a paid app would get better usage as people don't instantly think they have to pay anything to use it.
i personally don't buy any app unless i get a bit of a play with the app first. but the problem is, i have to go to each app to see if it has trial available. the market place needs to adjust to this variable in greater force because it's actually what makes the WP market place a great prospect and cancels out the duplicates which you see in the iOS market place (the free and paid version of apps).

emigrating said:
Really? So which one or two out of the following do you feel is worth downloading?
Twitter
Facebook
Youtube
Microsoft Tag Reader
Adobe Reader
Shazam
IGN
IMDb
eBay
Flixter
These are just some of the apps I couldn't live without - however, if you manage to witter it down to 1 or 2 I'll post an updated list of all my "important" apps. Although, IMO, 99% of people would have maxed their 2 apps from the top 5 in the list above.
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Other than Adobe Reader all other software you mentioned are useless to me. I am a smartphone user, not an Iphone user.

Oookayyy... so what do you want then?

zukа said:
Oookayyy... so what do you want then?
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Better: Calendar, Appointments, Time Management, Alarm, Wallet, Book Keeping, Expense Records, Maps, Navigation, SMS/Mail Organizing, Dialer, Auto-Call Record, Call Management, Data Management etc etc you should get an idea ..

Purple11 said:
Better: Calendar, Appointments, Time Management, Alarm, Wallet, Book Keeping, Expense Records, Maps, Navigation, SMS/Mail Organizing, Dialer, Auto-Call Record, Call Management, Data Management etc etc you should get an idea ..
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Most of which is part of the core OS - now if all you want are better implementations of the above, feel free to discuss what, specifically, needs fixing in the core experience.
If you ask me, the calendar, appointments, time management, alarms and email are all working fine out of the box - sure, we need better exchange support (server search etc), but it does what it's supposed to for now.
As for Book Keeping / Expense Records (why are you listing both?) - there are apps for this.
Bing Maps is included out of the box. Navigation may be poor, but there are apps for this that help somewhat.
In any case - if you need enterprise features like what you've listed above you're really not part of the target audience for WP7 at the moment. Something which has been very clear ever since the February unveiling of WP7 last year.

emigrating said:
Really? So which one or two out of the following do you feel is worth downloading?
Twitter
Facebook
Youtube
Microsoft Tag Reader
Adobe Reader
Shazam
IGN
IMDb
eBay
Flixter
These are just some of the apps I couldn't live without - however, if you manage to witter it down to 1 or 2 I'll post an updated list of all my "important" apps. Although, IMO, 99% of people would have maxed their 2 apps from the top 5 in the list above.
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See we are just two different people, KI dont have a twitter or Facebook account. So thats useless to me, Shazam I wont really use. But everything on your list is fine. My problem is that some apps that ive downloaded seem not to work like advertised and they crap out by running slow or not working at all. But I think im jumping the gun here, I just think we should have a better marketplace selection but I have to realize that the marketplace has just really opened to be honest. Just felt I needed to gripe about my experience

What's also a problem (for now) is that development for Windows Phone is so similar to developing for regular Windows environments: same tools, same programming languages, etc. A lot of "normal" Windows / .NET developers are early adopters of the platform and are having their go at developing a Windows Phone app. Unfortunately they don't always consider the limitations that the platforms has. They'll use a lot of heavy animation, request huge amounts of data, use imagery not optimized for mobile use. Thus: crappy apps.
I think over time this will all settle and the apps will become better.
That said, Microsoft does need to increase the overall app performance on the phone. There's a noticable difference between the built-in (native) apps and the managed apps.

stringray said:
What's also a problem (for now) is that development for Windows Phone is so similar to developing for regular Windows environments: same tools, same programming languages, etc. A lot of "normal" Windows / .NET developers are early adopters of the platform and are having their go at developing a Windows Phone app. Unfortunately they don't always consider the limitations that the platforms has. They'll use a lot of heavy animation, request huge amounts of data, use imagery not optimized for mobile use. Thus: crappy apps.
I think over time this will all settle and the apps will become better.
That said, Microsoft does need to increase the overall app performance on the phone. There's a noticable difference between the built-in (native) apps and the managed apps.
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this is blatantly false. First of all unless you're doing game programming you can only make Silverlight apps. Most regular windows applications do not use silverlight! You would think the web designers who use that stuff can create better apps, guess not.
Secondly the reason for crappy apps is entirely microsoft's fault. To get your app published, you need to pay 99$ a year for a developers license and get your identity verified by some thirdparty. After that when you submit an app, it is supposed to get reviewed by a team at microsoft to verify that your app meets many of the app guideliness set (like not crashing!).
I remember going to Tech Days (microsoft developer conference) and hearing them bragging about how their app reviews ensured that only quality apps were released but lately the amount of **** apps that have been appearing on the app marketplace makes me think they are just auto approving anything without even checking to see if it works.

pillsburydoughman said:
this is blatantly false. First of all unless you're doing game programming you can only make Silverlight apps. Most regular windows applications do not use silverlight! You would think the web designers who use that stuff can create better apps, guess not.
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Zero windows applications use Silverlight. WPF maybe, but Silverlight is a web-only subset. What stringray actually said was:
Windows Phone is so similar to developing for regular Windows environments: same tools, same programming languages, etc.
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Which is correct. Visual Studio is the primary development tool for desktop and C# is very popular development language for desktop.
The rest of what you said is probably true. But you can never test an app and say that it will never crash. Do you remember WM6.5 when you downloaded an app to find it didn't even launch on your device? Well at least it's filtering out all that crap

Silverlight is not only for web development. I believe since Silverlight 3.0 you can use them as desktop applications as well.
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Secondly the reason for crappy apps is entirely microsoft's fault. To get your app published, you need to pay 99$ a year for a developers license and get your identity verified by some thirdparty. After that when you submit an app, it is supposed to get reviewed by a team at microsoft to verify that your app meets many of the app guideliness set (like not crashing!).
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How is the way you pay and get verified the reason why the apps are MS' fault?
Yea, they check them but rarely have I seen an app crash (actually I haven't yet but I'm not going to state that all of them have).

I just want to quickly point something to the ones you have hated apps.
Why don't you give feedback to developers? I have given serveral and emailed several feedback and have gotten a response each time. And each time, they take my feedback into consideration and either plan to implement them in the future.
As the end-user don't we want the best product? To get the best, we have to critique and help evolve the marketplace/apps. Only this way do developers know how to improve and what needs to be improved.
Otherwise they believe everything is dandy.

pillsburydoughman said:
this is blatantly false. First of all unless you're doing game programming you can only make Silverlight apps. Most regular windows applications do not use silverlight!
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Well, Silverlight development does resemble WPF programming a lot (afterall, it is a subset of WPF). And we've been doing WPF programming for years now, haven't we? Actually, if you stick to simply placing controls on a page and adding event code it resembles WinForms very much. And that last thing is what I see happening a lot. Many developers create some spaghetti app, which totally messes up tombstoning or page navigation.
Once developers get more comfortable with Windows Phone (Silverlight) programming, they'll see that things like the MVVM pattern, async processing , etc. actually do make sense and can be very helpful. And that's when the good apps are starting to get made.
Secondly the reason for crappy apps is entirely microsoft's fault. To get your app published, you need to pay 99$ a year for a developers license and get your identity verified by some thirdparty. After that when you submit an app, it is supposed to get reviewed by a team at microsoft to verify that your app meets many of the app guideliness set (like not crashing!).
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In general I think they do a really good job. Of course they had to learn in the beginning and a lot of faults were made. But the test department is getting better and better. The reports you get when an app fails certification are often very detailed.
Don't forget they check apps against the Guidelines. I agree there are a lot of stupid apps (Peace Sign app, anyone?). But those apps do follow the Guidelines.
Crashes are hard to predict and it's not that easy to test for them. Personally, I haven't experienced much app crashing on my device. In fact, I've seen more apps crash on my iOS devices than on my WP7.
Microsoft has said they collect crash dumps from all apps on the phone (at least, if you've opted in for that). I hope that someday they'll give us developers access to those dumps, so we can do post-mortem analysis of our app's crashes.
But lately the amount of **** apps that have been appearing on the app marketplace makes me think they are just auto approving anything without even checking to see if it works.
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Totally disagree. The apps may be not to your liking, but most of them do work according to the Guidelines. And did you give feedback to the developers of those apps? They often actually listen!

Mango is here... Where are the apps?

Remember when people were complaining about a lack of good apps and all they could hear was "There's no API for that, wait for Mango, bla bla bla...".
Developers have had the tools since when? May, June, July? Yet the only worthy app we've seen is WhatsApp. At a time when people are preordering the iPhone 4S like crazy, isn't it time WP crank it up a bit?
Why can't I have something as simple as Audible for instance (heck, there isn't even an Amazon app outside the US)? It's like the world stopped with Mango, I don't get it.
[Insert "you're to impatient", "buy an iPhone" comments here]

a good chat client. WhatsApp, IM+ DO NOT count as good chat clients. They are both broken, slow, buggy, laggy and half the time don't even work. If someone now says IM+ works then I'll ask them to use it on iOS or Android and see what 'works' REALLY means.

I must admit I was all excited about getting Mango and having Live tiles on the home screen.
Sadly there are hardly any good apps to use, And even fewer with live tiles.
{I would love Twitter to have a live tile}
The little things like no WiFi tethering and no decent Navigation app for WP7 is testing my patience as well. I am hoping Nokia will rectify these short comings as I really do love the windows software.
I just hope the hardware that this platform deserve is released soon.

TuneIn radio has been updated to Mango, and now supports background audio. That's the best update I've had - use that app all the time. Other than that a few of my map apps (Bingle Maps, GMaps) open quicker, but that's it really.
Yeh is a bit of a let down so far; still no augmented reality apps yet, or properly good WP7 exclusive games (could we have *one* FPS please?)

another complaining thread sighs....

sayonical said:
another complaining thread sighs....
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well WP7 isn't a bed of roses as you might think it is. For those who paid through the roof have the right to complain if the platform doesn't meet their expectations.

agp64 said:
..... The little things like no WiFi tethering and no decent Navigation app for WP7 .....
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Maybe Navigon Navigator does'nt support your region but for 95% of the users Navigator IS a decent navigation app (and version 4 should to be released soon to the market i read somewhere).
There will never be an OS that will fully forfill YOUR needs but when it does what the majority of users want it's on the right way.

I dont get the "no good gps apps" argument. Is Garmin Streetpilot not available in the US or Europe?

How about this. Let's come up with a list of the apps that we really want and some of us can start to ping them (via twitter or email) to see whether or not they are working on a WP7 app and any idea when it's coming.

Im getting 5+ updates everyday and most are for mango. It takes time.
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PG2G said:
How about this. Let's come up with a list of the apps that we really want and some of us can start to ping them (via twitter or email) to see whether or not they are working on a WP7 app and any idea when it's coming.
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There's an idea I can run with instead of countless posts moaning and groaning!
I'll start
Ereader.com (Back when I had my pocket pc, then android so I have a lot of books on there, would love to have this on wp7) However Barnes and Nobles own the company now and they have the nook so probably a hopeless cause....
A Barnes and Noble Nook app wouldn't hurt though...
sent the tweet: @BN_care will you be releasing a Nook app for Windows Phone 7? I'd also like to read my ereader.com books on my windows phone. Help!

the92playboy said:
I dont get the "no good gps apps" argument. Is Garmin Streetpilot not available in the US or Europe?
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Garmin is US only, Navigon so far is only available in Germany (?)
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Peew971 said:
Garmin is US only, Navigon so far is only available in Germany (?)
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Canada also has Garmin, and works awesome for those interested.

This is pretty much the reason I can't see myself switching. I have an iPhone. Why do I want to move to a platform where I can do less than I already can? I really want certain apps on WP7 before I move or I just cannot justify moving. It may be an unimportant app to most people, but an app like Grindr is something I don't want my platform without. Not to mention I have a free turn-by-turn app with iOS(which I believe Nokia is going to be addressing, and is most likely the hardware I'd be buying if I got a Windows Phone).
A lot of people on here(from what I've noticed) are saying that WP7 needs to get more unique apps. While that's nice and all, I want already existing apps. Most of my friends also have iPhones, and I don't want them to tell me to pull up an app and be unable to. I don't really care about the "look what my phone can do and yours can't." I care about being able to do all that they can at the very least.
Many people on here care about games and think that could be the main selling point of WP7. I just don't see it happening. While it's a small sample size, most people I've met pretty much only pick up simple games like Angry Birds or Cut the Rope(if that). I just don't feel that a large majority of smart phone owners want to play action-packed RPGs on their phones. We have computers and consoles for that. And while it might be a nice novelty to be able to once in a while, again, the only games people I know as well as myself play are the simple pick it up for a few minutes and put it back down games.
Next comes the photography apps. I almost never take pictures, but many, many people do. I don't have a WP7 to compare apps with, but I'm curious what the photo apps on there are like. I have Camera+, Hipstamatic, and Instagram on my phone. How do non-native apps(and I guess the native app) on WP7 stack up to those? I hope Nokia will save the day in terms of excellent camera quality, but the in-app editing is also a pretty important feature to me(when I do actually take pictures) and others.
The Windows Phone OS looks pretty amazing, but I just can't justify moving until it can do all that my iPhone can in terms of apps relevant to me. I'm hoping by WP8 it will be all I want and more, and just maybe it will be able to suck me out of the Apple ecosystem. The live tiles are a pretty excellent concept, and while it's compelling, I need more apps to be available. People almost always develop for iOS before they develop for Android or WP7, so it definitely leaves something to be desired in that department.
The only thing I'd be pleased with is the fact that Skype integration is coming. On that token, I already have a Skype app with video calling on the iPhone. So Microsoft has definitely got to step up their game, get existing apps on this platform at all costs, and make sure their own in-house apps completely blow the other platforms' alternatives away.

the92playboy said:
Canada also has Garmin, and works awesome for those interested.
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While iOS and Andorid have MapQuest for free with virtually all the features of Android's Google Maps and Navigation for free.
http://wireless.mapquest.com/
Uses Navteq map data, BTW. Guess they were better at negotiating a licensing deal than Microsoft...

whistler-nl said:
Maybe Navigon Navigator does'nt support your region but for 95% of the users Navigator IS a decent navigation app (and version 4 should to be released soon to the market i read somewhere).
There will never be an OS that will fully forfill YOUR needs but when it does what the majority of users want it's on the right way.
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That's all well and dandy for those that have access to it. But there are many areas in Asia that still have no way to navigate offline.
It seems to me that a majority want WIFI tethering to avoid having 2 data plans, The same reason I want it.
My 4 year old Nokia had WIFI tethering and world GPS maps.
I do love this OS. I am hopping Nokia maps will make it our way soon.
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Bl4ke said:
This is pretty much the reason I can't see myself switching. I have an iPhone. Why do I want to move to a platform where I can do less than I already can? I really want certain apps on WP7 before I move or I just cannot justify moving. It may be an unimportant app to most people, but an app like Grindr is something I don't want my platform without. Not to mention I have a free turn-by-turn app with iOS(which I believe Nokia is going to be addressing, and is most likely the hardware I'd be buying if I got a Windows Phone).
A lot of people on here(from what I've noticed) are saying that WP7 needs to get more unique apps. While that's nice and all, I want already existing apps. Most of my friends also have iPhones, and I don't want them to tell me to pull up an app and be unable to. I don't really care about the "look what my phone can do and yours can't." I care about being able to do all that they can at the very least.
Many people on here care about games and think that could be the main selling point of WP7. I just don't see it happening. While it's a small sample size, most people I've met pretty much only pick up simple games like Angry Birds or Cut the Rope(if that). I just don't feel that a large majority of smart phone owners want to play action-packed RPGs on their phones. We have computers and consoles for that. And while it might be a nice novelty to be able to once in a while, again, the only games people I know as well as myself play are the simple pick it up for a few minutes and put it back down games.
Next comes the photography apps. I almost never take pictures, but many, many people do. I don't have a WP7 to compare apps with, but I'm curious what the photo apps on there are like. I have Camera+, Hipstamatic, and Instagram on my phone. How do non-native apps(and I guess the native app) on WP7 stack up to those? I hope Nokia will save the day in terms of excellent camera quality, but the in-app editing is also a pretty important feature to me(when I do actually take pictures) and others.
The Windows Phone OS looks pretty amazing, but I just can't justify moving until it can do all that my iPhone can in terms of apps relevant to me. I'm hoping by WP8 it will be all I want and more, and just maybe it will be able to suck me out of the Apple ecosystem. The live tiles are a pretty excellent concept, and while it's compelling, I need more apps to be available. People almost always develop for iOS before they develop for Android or WP7, so it definitely leaves something to be desired in that department.
The only thing I'd be pleased with is the fact that Skype integration is coming. On that token, I already have a Skype app with video calling on the iPhone. So Microsoft has definitely got to step up their game, get existing apps on this platform at all costs, and make sure their own in-house apps completely blow the other platforms' alternatives away.
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Great post Bl4ke.
The cross platform apps are a must for WP7.
I still cannot believe Skype is not available for WP7. My friends laugh when I tell them I do not have Skype on my phone.

It is a disappointment ... coming to WP7 from Android ... I patiently heard the argument that the apps will come once mango is here ... and considering such quick deployment of the update, I was hoping the developers will take notice and flood the market with apps... instead all I see on the marketplace is the same set of apps being repeated in the featured section ...
1. There isnt a decent chat client for WP7
2. Youtube playback seems to be slow
3. No third party browsers ... IE9 does not support text reflow ... i see myself scrolling sideways and downwards ...
4. Bing navigation is so crippled ... thanks to their deal with Navteq
5. Facebook client looks ancient .. Twitter client is marginally better ... where are the live tiles though ?
I can continue ranting but honestly, I feel really sad about how slowly the new apps are coming in ... It was almost the same when I was with Symbian and the Ovi store basically did not grow ... I sometimes get so annoyed with WP7 that I wish to put my sim back in my LG Optimus One (a very midrange phone) ... but heck, I can do a lot more with it ...

k4ce said:
It is a disappointment ... coming to WP7 from Android ... I patiently heard the argument that the apps will come once mango is here ... and considering such quick deployment of the update, I was hoping the developers will take notice and flood the market with apps... instead all I see on the marketplace is the same set of apps being repeated in the featured section ...
1. There isnt a decent chat client for WP7
2. Youtube playback seems to be slow
3. No third party browsers ... IE9 does not support text reflow ... i see myself scrolling sideways and downwards ...
4. Bing navigation is so crippled ... thanks to their deal with Navteq
5. Facebook client looks ancient .. Twitter client is marginally better ... where are the live tiles though ?
I can continue ranting but honestly, I feel really sad about how slowly the new apps are coming in ... It was almost the same when I was with Symbian and the Ovi store basically did not grow ... I sometimes get so annoyed with WP7 that I wish to put my sim back in my LG Optimus One (a very midrange phone) ... but heck, I can do a lot more with it ...
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I am coming from WM 6.5 and its an utter let down and nothing but regrets..
following are some apps which dosent need any further API release, nor any hardware shortcoming:
A 'decent' wallet app. (code wallet pro)
A decent agenda and appointments app (pocket informant)
A call monitoring app, calculating PEAK/offpeak/weekend minutes (phone dashboard) Basic call times is missing from call history.
An application to send SMS on particular time and date, like a SMS scheduler.
SMS backup application.
A Data monitor to calculate how much 3G/WIFI data I am using, weekly/daily/monthly/yearly.
A call/SMS blocker.
Audio recorder to record incoming/outgoing calls automatically. (resco audio recorder)
Last good game which lasted more than one day from start to finish was on 5/18/11: plant vs. zombies. You dont need APIs to make a good nor is their any hardware limitation. There were games in begining but now its just pathetic.. COLLAPSE? Burn the Rope? I mean seriously.. Why we still call it a 'smartphone' with dumb games like that?
All the apps right now are so basic.. and all the 'mango' updates have been equally basic. I guess mango was all about flipping that tile to show other side.. thats it.. we got the flipping tile.. NOW WHAT? WTF can I do more with this phone than just stare at that flipping tile??

Quality apps take time to make. MS did give a decent window to prepare apps, and Kinsoft apps was able to get their apps updated, but we only enabled fast resume - the easiest Mango feature to add. Some of these other features/API's take more time to add or even require a ground-up approach. So give it time.

Wp7 is new. You knew what you were getting yourself into when you bought into the platform.
WP7 won't be perfect overnight. Takes time. If you don't have the patience or certain features are as vital to you as oxygen then by all means sell your wp7 and jump to the flourishing app store of iOS or Android.
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What frustrates you about an app?

So I'm working on a post for my site. It's going to be a list about things a developer does with an application that frustrates us as users. The goal is to highlight common complains from the community about practices devs use in their apps and to hopefully encourage them with feedback to improve.
This is the list I've got so far. Please feel free to chime in if you agree or disagree and ADD any things that bug you as a USER.
--Lack of a live tile: One of the biggest differences on our platforms and others is the inclusion of live tiles. If it makes sense for the application, a live tile is a must. I'm hard pressed to find a large category of apps where a live tile wouldn't make sense at some basic level.
--No fast app switching: No explanation needed, devs get with it.
--Not playing nice with Metro: You make an app for iOS or Android and now you want to port it Windows Phone as fast as possible...so fast you don't think about the design. Great apps on Windows Phone are those that capitalize on the principles of the design language.
--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
--Redirecting to a website: I once downloaded a sports app that had potential. I opened the app and played around. There was a pivot page that had a section for news. Clicked it...and bam. IE is opening up. Nope, no thank you. I want to use your app now your website.
These are some of the big themes that I've encountered more than I should when playing around with apps. This is not a major problem, but it's there and it really shouldn't be.
Also I'm not trying to put developers down, I know it's hard work and I myself am trying to learn as well. But we should strive for something better.
Alright, sound off with some feedback guys. Any other 'sins against users' I've missed that you encounter? I'd like to see what you think before I write the post on my site.
ALSOOOO.... How about you list some apps that contain these 'sins against users'. That way we can politely invite the developer to hear our thoughts and implement changes that benefit everyone. Happy users = $, $= happy dev.

All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
Sent from my T8788 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

samsabri said:
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--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
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As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.

Marvin_S said:
As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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I agree. Some devs don't mention what the trial offers(time-limited or function-limited) and hence I stay away from such paid apps. Sometimes the trial is fully functional with ads. Agreed that the devs were lazy to not include it in the description, but some users are lazy too. That would be the reason for two versions of the app.

it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?

Marvin_S said:
As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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Yeah, I understand the marketing angle. I guess I live in some fantasy land in my head where the world is clean and organized. Hopefully with the Windows 8 Marketplace offering devs simliliar options in how they can implement trials we'll see less "free" apps because users may come expect every paid app to come with a trial.

svtfmook said:
it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?
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That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.

I'm in need of a map/location/gps app, that supports offline map caching . while I found couple of them on marketplace, ones that had nice design an functionality, all of them where online only and ones that had offline map caching had terrible design an absolutely no functionality. thats sad
design and functionality should be put first IMO

Inconsistent Resuming and Lack of Tombstoning
Once an app leaves the foreground you have two methods of returning to it: use the app switcher or hitting the tile on your Start screen. Going from the app switcher resumes as expected, but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background. Now this is probably something Microsoft has to fix, but I feel that if more apps tombstoned, then it could make things more consistent.

samsabri said:
That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.
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Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.

Marvin_S said:
Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.
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I think going forward an ideal scenario would be a user expects to have a trial mode for any app that a dev is asking money for. It's a win-win for both consumers and developers. Check out this post from Paul Laberge explaining some of the benefits of a trial mode.
Seems like your second paragraph is echoing the statement to follow metro design language/principles and aim for higher quality control in regards to the design.
It's interesting, I feel like 5 years ago software was all about being functional with no regard to design. Now we not only demand, but expect applications to function well and look beautiful. Exciting times

karan1203 said:
All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
Sent from my T8788 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Are those faults of the developer or the platform itself? I ask because I don't know a lot of the technical workings behind the push notification system. My limited knowledge tells me it might be a mix of both parties to blame.
Can anyone clarify?

apps?
For sure about Notifications part.
Push Notification can be useful "ONLY" when you have the phone right in front of your face. Because right after that, they are gone forever.
Second, Push Notification usually have a delay , about a half to 2 mins, from the actual event.
Like my friend can post a thing on my Facebook Wall, and the phone took about 2 mins to update it to the ME title. Same with all other Applications.
I used to try hacking the ROM and Registry of the Phone to reduce the delay of the Title Update. But failed so hard because Microsoft really locked it up hard.

I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)
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I was hoping I'd cover the most obvious complaints, but wanted to reach out and see if anything was missing. Also venting is good for us
And regarding Tagged...? Wow... I just looked at it on the web Marketplace and I won't let something that hideous touch my phone. It's just lazy and doesn't add any value to users or devs. Users get nothing out of it and as a dev what have you accomplished?
Apps like that should not pass certification. It seems draconian, but it's ok for us to demand and expect quality work.

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...but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background.
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This is (or was pre-Mango) a requirement to have your app certified. The rules say/said that a user returning to a task via the Back button is trying to complete an interupted task; a user launching the app from Start is starting a new task and shouldn't be presented with abandoned work from earlier.
I have a calculator app that maintains full state across invocations. I was worried that MS would reject the app because it preserved state even upon restarting. They did accept it, though.

Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.

Aphasaic2002 said:
Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.
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I hear you on that Facebook app. Thankfully the integration with Windows Phone makes it so that I haven't opened it in months. I check FB once a day on the browser at home before bed, but that's about it.
But I'll chalk this complaint under the 'design abuse' category.
Anyone have any other apps that violate some of our sins in the original post in this thread?

I'd like to see improvements with the sound handeling. Most games have a 'music volume' and a 'FX volume' it seems the volume % is boolean, 0% is silent, 10%-100% is full volume. I'd like to listen to my music while gaming without the Pew Pew causing my ears to bleed

Finding apps similar to ones I use on Android?

Thinking about moving to WP... I remember seeing somewhere a web site where you punch in what Android apps you use and it spits out WP equivalent. Am I imagining stuff?

I remember something like that a while back, but I'm not sure if its still around or updated.
With that said, the WP market is growing every day, and there's some cross-platform apps and some unique apps (especially games).
If you list some of the apps you're interested in, we can put what we use or if the same app is available.
The ones I miss most are my banking apps (no apps for Chase, ETrade, or Mint.com yet). I know Chase is being worked on, but I'm not sure about the other two.
There's also no Words with Friends or Draw Something, which are both popular on Android and iPhone, but they're in the works and should be coming soon too. There's also no Scrabble by EA. For Angry Birds, we only have the original game, not any of the later versions.
There's quite a few good XBox Live games though, which I like how its all tied in with my XBox and achievements.
With all that said, if you're wanting to change to WP, I would wait for WP8 devices to come out.

Search for "E*Trade" and scroll through the matches. The app was just released.

biang said:
Search for "E*Trade" and scroll through the matches. The app was just released.
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Yeah, I downloaded it the day after it came out. Unfortunately its a BIG disappointment from their banking side. You can't do anything with checking/savings accounts other than see the total balance. You can see transaction history, no transferring of money, no mobile check deposit, no bill pay, etc.
IMO, it was a rushed job, especially when compared to the Android and iOS versions.

Nokia released a migration tool for pc called Welcome Home, if you have an Android/iOS device you need to sync with it and it will give a list with the apps of your current phone for WP, if it cannot find the correct app it will give you an alternative.
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[Updated] Cool Apps and Games for Ace

Like every device has this now just thought I'd bring it over to help out my armv6ers lol anyways these were all tested on my SGY how u like them
1.Requires root: SD Maid Next 1 can free up your memory
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
2.7zipper- You can use to decompress 7z files (ps1games are usually compressed liked this) fpse won't play the games in this format so you need to decompress them you can just use a pc but if you don't have 1 and own a ps1 game this is a great tool https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joa.zipperplus7
3.Multi Picture Live Wallpaper- great live wallpaper that allows you to set various a wallpapers per homescreen it has many customisation features to many to list here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tamanegi.wallpaper.multipicture
4.Scan Media-simply runs the phones media scanner which I was astonished that really the only way to do this (at least with my phone) was by unmounting and remounting the sd card you have to do this sometimes especially if u download something after you turn on your phone some applications won't find the media unless you do this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dcd.scanmedia
5.Easy Downloader- it speeds up downloads and can be used to download videos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.et.easy.download
6.Utorrent- from the same people who made the PC version also who invented the protocol anyways it can be used to download torrents directly from your phone it is the only torrent app I used that actually works on my phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.utorrent.client
7. Admin Edit: Warez not allowed!!!
8.Requires root: Links2sd- a must have it can be used for uninstalling system apps moving apps to system memory it makes every app able to move to the sd card it can do lots of things
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
9.Mx Player- it is the best video player I've used great if your having problems playing videos and a million times better than the system player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
10.Tiger Arcade- it can be used to emulate mame and neo geo games it can also be used for cps1 and 2 and d mame also you'll need a bios file called neo geo.zip to emulate neo geo games (Google it) anyways this is the free version in order to enable saving you'll need to buy it anyways this app isn't on the play store anymore so I put it on drop box
http://db.tt/xDIi4eUO
11.Whatsapp- if you don't have it WTH r u waiting for best instant messaging app on android it's cross platform (android IOS BlackBerry Windows etc) lots of features is just great
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.whatsapp
12.Voxer- it's a PTT (push to talk) app basically kinda like a walkie talkie you basically hold down a button start talking and that's your friend receives it and the cycle continues no more need to type that's old school lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rebelvox.voxer
13.Viber- you can use it to make voice calls over the internet yes you can use it to make FREE calls over the internet the call quality is great (much better than regular calls) as long as you have a good connection it also doubles as a messaging app though no where near as full featured as whatsapp the main draw is that messages pop right up on the screen so you can reply without actually entering the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viber.voip
14.Smileys for Chat- So you got your social apps down what u need now is a smiley app lol this app is a collection of images memes etc that you can use to spice up some chats
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidsx.smileys
15.App Lock- it's used to lock applications you select with pin patterns etc has features including widget for toggling locks on and off
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
16.Simple Text- Used to create widgets using text and shapes pretty good if you know what your doing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redphx.simpletext
17.Stick Fighter- can be used to make stick man animations directly from your phone this app uses a method where u get some figures and adjust joint and placement etc to create animations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tweber.stickfighter.activities
18.Stick Draw- It's also used for stick man animations with this app u have to actually draw the figures though that sounds bad it really isn't this has a lot of features and I prefer this to stick fighter but everyone might not feel that way so I put em both
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bingzer.android.stickdraw
19.Opera mini- this is the extra mini version (there two versions this 1and the full-fledged browser) that I use when I want to get something quick and I don't wanna go into dolphin
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.android
20.Requires root:Ad free- Best app ever it removes ads from applications
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree
21.G-Reader- u can use it to subscribe to feeds and read then right on your android device I use it to keep up with my tech news all my friends wonder how an so informed lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noinnion.android.greader.reader
22.Crack your screen- fool your friends into thinking you cracked your phones screen even better if your can somehow get it installed on their phone
http://market.android.com/details?id=mk.g6.crackyourscreen
23.Dropbox- cloud storage application use your upload files to a cloud comes with 2gb free storage also has a desktop so you can use for immediate integration
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.dropbox.android
24.ImageSearch- image search application can search images by file type size etc great if you wanna download done pics quick without entering a browser
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.wagachat.imagesearch
25.My Data Manager- use to monitor you data usage can use to a data plan view how your using data view what apps are using data on pie chart graph and other forms it's great if your on a limited data plan
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm
26.Speed Test- use to test the speed of your internet connection can test Wi-Fi or mobile network connection
http://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
27.XDA-needs no introduction a mobile app for connecting to XDA
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkxda.activity
28.WiFi kill-can kill the connection of people on a Wi-Fi network can only be legally used on your network
http://db.tt/8iTazwTw
29. Wi-Fi Mac address changer- can use to change your Wi-Fi Mac address and browse anonymously or another example would be this network that I own in which this app may be used I set it up in a way (just 2 test d app) where you can connect but if you try to go online you get a page with a prompt asking for your password so what I did was use Wi-Fi kill to find out the mac address of pc currently connected to the Wi-Fi networks Mac address then change my Mac address to that and presto chango I could use the network
http://db.tt/v0LWFxJp
30. Network Spoofer- can do various things to a network your connected to like change all pictures to a pre selected 1 blur images flip images redirect to a particular website change text in Google searches change all YouTube videos to a pre defined one ETC but can only be legally used on your network
http://db.tt/0zk0m53x
31. Requires root : DroidSheepGuard FREE- guards against those attacks apps above use when connecting to public Wi-Fi networks it also comes automatically when connecting to Wi-Fi networks
http://market.android.com/details?id=de.trier.infsec.koch.droidsheep.guard.free
32.Quickpic-stock gallery app alternative http://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
33.Zedge- The app for zedge's mobile site it has games wallpapers live wallpapers but what I mostly use it for is ringtones instead of having to open up a browser I can do it from this little app and you can't beat the price of free
http://market.android.com/details?id=net.zedge.android
34 Virtual world 4 live wallpaper- very cool live wallpaper that uses your gyroscope and accelerometer to simulate a 3d virtual environment works surprisingly well
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Hammer.App.Vw2
35. Dock4Droid- kind of like rocket dock for PC and the dock u get on Mac pretty cool has customization options but some features don't come in the free version but it's still good
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.urbandroid.dock
36. Jump gate live wallpaper- a cool 3d live wallpaper where you see an android flying through space he can do a barrel roll if you double tap on him
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fishnoodle.jumpgate_free
37. Desktop visualizer- use to set images as widgets
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.bii.android.app.dskvzr
38.Barcode Scanner-
Use for scanning barcodes
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard&feature=order_history
40.Memory Booster-
Boost the RAM on your phone.
https://market.android.com/details?id=imoblife.memorybooster.lite&feature=search_result
41.Stopwatch and Timer-
I know what you thinking and no android doesn't come with 1 lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sportstracklive.stopwatch&feature=search_result
42.Sky.FM radio-
Internet radio
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.audioaddict.sky&feature=search_result
43.Fancy Widgets-
Pretty self explanatory lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.fancywidgets
44.Picsay-
Simple photo editor with just the right amount of features lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.shinycore.picsayfree&feature=search_result
45.Agile Lock Free-
Sense 3.0 locksreen
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen&feature=search_result
46.Ringtone Maker Free-
Make ringtones DUH!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.buble.fresh&feature=apps_topselling_new_free
47.Best Voice Changer-
Changes your voice.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.scoompa.voicechanger&feature=apps_topselling_new_free
48.Funny Facts Free 8000
Funny facts lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.srsdev.allfacts&feature=search_result
49.*requires root* Titanium Backup ★ root-
Data backup, I know most people already have this but if u don't have it is the best backup app by faaaar I mean like seriously lol
50.Airdroid-
Send a file from your PC to your phone over a WiFi network
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sand.airdroid&feature=search_result
51.Poweramp Music Player-
Best music player in my opinion
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer&feature=search_result
52.Unified Remote-
Use your android as a remote for your pc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Relmtech.Remote&feature=search_result
53.TweetCaster for Twitter-
Alternate Twitter App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handmark.tweetcaster&feature=search_result
54.Wallbase HD Wallpapers-
Over a million HD Wallpapers
LOL
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.citc.wallbase&feature=search_result
56.Netflix-
I don't have have a Netflix account but if you do this app is great for watching Tv series and shows
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&feature=search_result
57.Tubemate- alternative YouTube video application can select resolution to watch videos in and can download YouTube videos
http://db.tt/DK1iB8O1
GAMES
58. Bubble Shooter- can't beat a good old fashion bubble shooter right here a cool 1
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.game.BubbleShooter
59. NinJump-cool addictive game you jump from walls left and right dodging shiurkens obstacles and collecting power ups
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.bfs.ninjump
60. PewPew 2- basically geometry wars for android if you don't know what geometry wars is its basically a game where your a spaceship on a flat landscape and your move around dodging and shooting enemies
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.jyaif.pewpew2
61. SketchIt- an online game where you play against people in real-time trying to guess what someone is drawing
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.into.sketchit
62. Speedx 3D- pretty cool 3d motion based game where you choose obstacles
http://db.tt/mntG0UMx
63. Devil Ninja2- a side scrolling game where.you run jump attack and dodge enemies pretty addictive
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidstudio.game.devil2
64. Hill Climb Racing- a physics based game kinda of like trial racing just that this is fun lol
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.fingersoft.hillclimb
65. Line Runner- a side scrolling game where you jump and roll to avoid obstacles it's kinda hard though
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.djinnworks.linerunnerfree
66.Bike race-
Cool bike racing game lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.topfreegames.bikeracefreeworld
Apps Cont'd DEC 5TH 2012
Avast-
RobustSecurity application
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity
*Requires root* Faceniff-
Can use to test the security of your own network can hack facebook passwords YouTube passwords and some others I forgot but fb's enough to float my boat free version only allows 3 facebook passwords to be hacked
http://db.tt/V4pANuZe
*Requires root* Droid sheep- I never used this one (I use faceniff) but I heard it's like faceniff but free so yeah lol
http://db.tt/NQf2q3TI
Next launcher- from the same people that brought you go launcher is really cool has done nice features but it's in beta so some things aren't present but you can try it out if you want
http//db.tt/JdZE3w1W
*Requires root* Game CIH- use to edit game files can edit things like cash money points ETC but it's kinda hit and miss how it works is that u open it hit home (it'll stay open on the background) now open the game u wanna edit and there'll be a toast in the upper part of the screen hit the magnifying glass and search for what you wanna change you can search name or numbers search for a make example cash and see what u find but you won't necessarily find anything relevant since the dev probably didn't name it that if you need any help just comment or pm me or something
http://db.tt/R1LQ7qy9
Fing-
Network Tools use to see your network can give you more accurate info I use with network spoofer since network spoofer barely ever shows up anything connected to a network so I just use this copy the up address and then put it in network spoofer
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing
Galaxy S3 Dandelion- s3 dandelion live wallpaper
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidwasabi.livewallpaper.dandelion
gTunes music download- music downloader mostly downloads in m4a format (which is really small) so it's my go to app so I don't have to open a browser
http://market.android.com/details?id=free.mp3.dlv6
Go Launcher- robust launcher with tons of themes and customization options
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
Holo launcher- lightweight launcher instead of using something as robust as go launcher
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.hololauncher
Memory booster RAM optimizer- self explanatory
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.memorybooster.lite
*Requires root* Root explorer-
Use to explore system
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer
Recommend by Viper The Ripper
TERMINAL EMULATOR
Description: Access your Android's built-in Linux command line shell. You can copy, move, paste, execute scripts, change permissions, create files (script files, txt...), modify a lot of files, format parttions, configure network connections, reboot your system also into recovery, reduce screen brightness, off your buttons lights, 100% android control etc etc etc etc etc etc I don't know you can make wonderful things, cooking foods, kill your enemies LOL!!
BUSYBOX
Description: BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self- dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
Mentioned in the new XDA-Developers book "XDA Developers' Android Hacker's Toolkit: The Complete Guide to Rooting, ROMs and Theming"
(both require root to get the 100% profit) already knew, Didn't you?
These two apps are all that you need to get 100% performance to your android device.
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Like every device has this now just thought I'd bring it over to help out my armv6ers lol anyways these were all tested on my SGY how u like them
1.Requires root: This 1 is a screen recorder for armv6 phones it's the only screen recorder I found that works with armv6 it's called
z screen recorder-
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zausan.zscreenrecorder
2.Requires root: SD Maid Next 1 is one that I use when I'm strapped for internal memory on my sgy it can free up your memory
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
3.7zipper- You can use to decompress 7z files (ps1games are usually compressed liked this) fpse won't play the games in this format so you need to decompress them you can just use a pc but if you don't have 1 and own a ps1 game this is a great tool https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joa.zipperplus7
4.Multi Picture Live Wallpaper- great live wallpaper that allows you to set various a wallpapers per homescreen it has many customisation features to many to list here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tamanegi.wallpaper.multipicture
5.Scan Media-simply runs the phones media scanner which I was astonished that really the only way to do this (at least with my phone) was by unmounting and remounting the sd card you have to do this sometimes especially if u download something after you turn on your phone some applications won't find the media unless you do this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dcd.scanmedia
6.Easy Downloader- it speeds up downloads and can be used to download videos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.et.easy.download
7.Utorrent- from the same people who made the PC version also who invented the protocol anyways it can be used to download torrents directly from your phone it is the only torrent app I used that actually works on my phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.utorrent.client
8.Pirate Bay Browser- it can be used to search an find torrent files (from pirate bay) it has a very nice interface and works great with utorrent making it very easy to find and download torrents when coupled together
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.caffeinelab.pbb
9.Requires root: Links2sd- a must have especially if you have a SGY it can be used for uninstalling system apps moving apps to system memory it makes every app able to move to the sd card it can do lots of things
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
10.Mx Player- it is the best video player I've used great if your having problems playing videos and a million times better than the system player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
11.Tiger Arcade- it can be used to emulate mame and neo geo games it can also be used for cps1 and 2 but it didn't work properly on my SGY but doesn't matter since basically every game that was on cps1 and 2 was on mame also you'll need a bios file called neo geo.zip to emulate neo geo games (Google it) anyways this if the free version in order to enable saving you'll need to buy it anyways this app isn't on the play store anymore so I put it on drop box
http://db.tt/xDIi4eUO
12.Whatsapp- if you don't have it WTH r u waiting for best instant messaging app on android it's cross platform (android IOS BlackBerry Windows etc) lots of features is just great
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.whatsapp
13.Voxer- it's a PTT (push to talk) app basically kinda like a walkie talkie you basically hold down a button start talking and that's your friend receives it and the cycle continues no more need to type that's old school lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rebelvox.voxer
14.Viber- you can use it to make voice calls over the internet yes you can use it to make FREE calls over the internet the call quality is great (much better than regular calls) as long as you have a good connection it also doubles as a messaging app though no where near as full featured as whatsapp the main draw is that messages pop right up on the screen so you can reply without actually entering the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viber.voip
15.Smileys for Chat- So you got your social apps down what u need now is a smiley app lol this app is a collection of images memes etc that you can use to spice up some chats
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidsx.smileys
16.Requires root: Chainfire 3d- used to reduce graphics of games and get some games to work or run faster e.g air penguin does not work on our device but after tweaking with this it works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.cf3d
17.App Lock- it's used to lock applications you select with pin patterns etc has features including widget for toggling locks on and off
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
18.Simple Text- Used to create widgets using text and shapes pretty good if you know what your doing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redphx.simpletext
19.Stick Fighter- can be used to make stick man animations directly from your phone this app uses a method where u get some figures and adjust joint and placement etc to create animations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tweber.stickfighter.activities
20.Stick Draw- It's also used for stick man animations with this app u have to actually draw the figures though that sounds bad it really isn't this has a lot of features and I prefer this to stick fighter but everyone might not feel that way so I put em both
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bingzer.android.stickdraw
21.Opera mini- this is the extra mini version (there two versions this 1and the full-fledged browser) that I use when I want to get something quick and I don't wanna go into dolphin
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.android
22.Requires root:Ad free- Best app ever it removes ads from applications
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree
23.G-Reader- u can use it to subscribe to feeds and read then right on your android device I use it to keep up with my tech news all my friends wonder how an so informed lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noinnion.android.greader.reader
24.Crack your screen- fool your friends into thinking you cracked your phones screen even better if your can somehow get it installed on their phone
http://market.android.com/details?id=mk.g6.crackyourscreen
25.Dropbox- cloud storage application use your upload files to a cloud comes with 2gb free storage also has a desktop so you can use for immediate integration
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.dropbox.android
26.ImageSearch- image search application can search images by file type size etc great if you wanna download done pics quick without entering a browser
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.wagachat.imagesearch
27.My Data Manager- use to monitor you days usage can use to a data plan view how your using data view what apps are using data on pie chart graph and other forms it's great if your on a data plan
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm
28.Speed Test- use to test the speed of your internet connection can test Wi-Fi or mobile network connection
http://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
29.XDA-needs no introduction a mobile app for connecting to XDA
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkxda.activity
30.WiFi kill-can kill the connection of people on a Wi-Fi network can only be legally used on your network
http://db.tt/8iTazwTw
31. Wi-Fi Mac address changer- can use to change your Wi-Fi Mac address and browse anonymously or another example would be this network that I own in which this app may be used I set it up in a way (just 2 test d app) where you can connect but if you try to go online you get a page with a prompt asking for your password so what I did was use Wi-Fi kill to find out the mac address of pc currently connected to the Wi-Fi networks Mac address then change my Mac address to that and presto chango I could use the network
http://db.tt/3GeyxAQT
32. Network Spoofer- can do various things to a network your connected to like change all pictures to a pre selected 1 blur images flip images redirect to a particular website change text in Google searches change all YouTube videos to a pre defined one ETC but can only be legally used on your network
http://db.tt/0zk0m53x
33. Requires root : DroidSheepGuard FREE- guards against those attacks devices above use when connecting to public Wi-Fi networks it also comes automatically when connecting to Wi-Fi networks
http://market.android.com/details?id=de.trier.infsec.koch.droidsheep.guard.free
34. Quickpic-stock gallery app alternative way faster and also plays Gif's properly (the stock gallery app plays them but not the entire thing) http://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
35.Zedge- The app for zedge's mobile site it has games wallpapers live wallpapers but what I mostly use it for is ringtones instead of having to open up a browser I can do it from this little and you can't beat the price of free
http://market.android.com/details?id=net.zedge.android
36 Virtual world 4 live wallpaper- very cool live wallpaper that uses your gyroscope and accelerometer to simulate a 3d virtual environment works surprisingly well on my galaxy y
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Hammer.App.Vw2
38.Barcode Scanner-
Use for scanning barcodes
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard&feature=order_history
40.Memory Booster-
Boost the RAM on your phone.
https://market.android.com/details?id=imoblife.memorybooster.lite&feature=search_result
41.Stopwatch and Timer-
I know what you thinking and no android doesn't come with 1 lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sportstracklive.stopwatch&feature=search_result
42.Sky.FM radio-
Internet radio
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.audioaddict.sky&feature=search_result
43.Fancy Widgets-
Pretty self explanatory lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.fancywidgets
44.Picsay-
Simple photo editor with just the right amount of features lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.shinycore.picsayfree&feature=search_result
45.Agile Lock Free-
Sense 3.0 locksreen
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen&feature=search_result
46.Ringtone Maker Free-
Make ringtones DUH!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.buble.fresh&feature=apps_topselling_new_free
47.Best Voice Changer-
Changes your voice.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.scoompa.voicechanger&feature=apps_topselling_new_free
48.Funny Facts Free 8000
Funny facts lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.srsdev.allfacts&feature=search_result
49.*requires root* Titanium Backup ★ root-
Data backup, I know most people already have this but if u don't have it is the best backup app by faaaar I mean like seriously lol
50.Airdroid-
Send a file from your PC to your phone over a WiFi network
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sand.airdroid&feature=search_result
51.Poweramp Music Player-
Best music player in my opinion
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer&feature=search_result
52.Unified Remote-
Use your android as a remote for your pc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Relmtech.Remote&feature=search_result
53.TweetCaster for Twitter-
Alternate Twitter App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handmark.tweetcaster&feature=search_result
54.Wallbase HD Wallpapers-
Over a million HD Wallpapers
LOL
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.citc.wallbase&feature=search_result
55. What's My IQ?-
Test your IQ
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orangenose.games.whatsmyiq&feature=search_result
56.Netflix-
I don't have have a Netflix account but if you do this app is great for watching Tv series and shows
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&feature=search_result
GAMES
58. Bubble Shooter- can't beat a good old fashion bubble shooter right here a cool 1
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.game.BubbleShooter
59. NinJump-cool addictive game you jump from walls left and right dodging shiurkens obstacles and collecting power ups
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.bfs.ninjump
60. PewPew 2- basically geometry wars for android if you don't know what geometry wars is its basically a game where your a spaceship on a flat landscape and your move around dodging and shooting enemies
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.jyaif.pewpew2
61. SketchIt- an online game where you play against people in real-time trying to guess what someone is drawing
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.into.sketchit
62. Speedx 3D- pretty cool 3d motion based game where you choose obstacles
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.bytestorm.speedx
63. Devil Ninja2- a side scrolling game where.you run jump attack and dodge enemies pretty addictive
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidstudio.game.devil2
64. Hill Climb Racing- a physics based game kinda of like trial racing just that this is fun lol
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.fingersoft.hillclimb
65. Line Runner- a side scrolling game where you jump and roll to avoid obstacles it's kinda hard though
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.djinnworks.linerunnerfree
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Why dont you add Bike Race in this list of cool games..Bike Race is such a wonderful game to timepass..
and its a multiplayer game too...!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.topfreegames.bikeracefreeworld

bhumit22 said:
Why dont you add Bike Race in this list of cool games..Bike Race is such a wonderful game to timepass..
and its a multiplayer game too...!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.topfreegames.bikeracefreeworld
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Added it....don't 4get to hit thanks
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9.Requires root: Links2sd- a must have especially if you have a SGY it can be used for uninstalling system apps moving apps to system memory it makes every app able to move to the sd card it can do lots of things
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.buak.Link2SD
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thats a cool and powerful app i love :laugh:

livewirerules said:
thats a cool and powerful app i love :laugh:
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So do I ...don't forget to hit thanks
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don't forget to hit thanks
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Members tend to hate people who are addicted to thanks, don't ask for it, earn it. If you ask, more and more will NOT give a thanks to you because of all the nagging. If they feel you deserve a thanks they will give it to you.
WE WON'T FORGET THE THANKS BUTTON!!

Is it just me or does Bike Race Free and What's My IQ? incompatible with our phone?

Kakashi Hatake said:
Is it just me or does Bike Race Free and What's My IQ? incompatible with our phone?
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Not sure about bike race (it was recommended) and about what's my IQ I don't know what's going on it loads up but when I try to download its saying item not found I was supposed to remove it thanks
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nice apps

Thanks
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The wifi Mac Address changer is no longer located in that dropbox link. Please can anybody give me links to the .apk file.
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Fixed the link here u go
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Thanks
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Ur welcome
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Brothers in Arms 2 is a nice game and also runs quite good on our Ace
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Brothers in Arms 2 is a nice game and also runs quite good on our Ace
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Isnt that a paid app
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