Android 4.0 has tethering flags? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Decided to post this here since this is currently the only phone with 4.0 right now.
I'm using a nexus one with 4.0.3 at the moment and I got a text message from at&t telling me that tethering requires a plan after using the native tethering on the phone. I've used tethering on 2.2 and 2.3 for years without issue, and it just seems strange that this happened after upgrading (but it could be unrelated as well) My understanding was that carriers were not able to distinguish data usage through the stock tethering in previous versions (at least in the same way iOS and WP7 handle tethering), or at least at&t wasn't doing so.
Any at&t users have similar experiences with their galaxy nexuses? I'm using an $30 3G iPhone unlimited data plan on my account at the moment

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Already have this message for with orange in France...
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I think the way they have been determining it with the iPhone in the past was with the TTL on the packets being sent. Computers generally have a different TTL than the iPhone. Maybe they started to do the same with Android phones?

Wasn't Koush's ClockworkMod Tether supposed to do the tethering via a method that was supposedly not traceable by carriers?

OJ in Compton said:
Decided to post this here since this is currently the only phone with 4.0 right now.
I'm using a nexus one with 4.0.3 at the moment and I got a text message from at&t telling me that tethering requires a plan after using the native tethering on the phone. I've used tethering on 2.2 and 2.3 for years without issue, and it just seems strange that this happened after upgrading (but it could be unrelated as well) My understanding was that carriers were not able to distinguish data usage through the stock tethering in previous versions (at least in the same way iOS and WP7 handle tethering), or at least at&t wasn't doing so.
Any at&t users have similar experiences with their galaxy nexuses? I'm using an $30 3G iPhone unlimited data plan on my account at the moment
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You should respond back and be like, I don't remember tethering - where's your proof that I did?

ATT has been heavily monitoring for tethering in the last 6 months or so.

adrynalyne said:
ATT has been heavily monitoring for tethering in the last 6 months or so.
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ATT busted me for tethering and removed my unlimited plan. I ended up going with verizon becuase of it and have never looked back. The unlimited was nice, but verizon speeds with GNexus is far better.

I have never really abused it, but my wife and I have been tethering on Verizon well over a year. We have used Wifi Tether for Root on my OG Droid, PDAnet on her Incredible and me currently using native tethering on my GN under Bugless Beast. Never received a single text, email or bill. Granted we only use it combined for about 200MB a month so we might be flying under their radar.
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frogskins said:
Never received a single text, email or bill. Granted we only use it combined for about 200MB a month so we might be flying under their radar.
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Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??

martonikaj said:
Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??
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My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.

extremx said:
My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.
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Understood, but only 200mb for a whole month for 2 people, including tethering? Can't even believe that lol.

extremx said:
My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.
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Thank you for that info. I usually use 3G tether for when I'm off wifi on my own tablet but I don't use even 200mb so I (hopefully) will be safe on 4G as well.

careful, with 4G it's tempting to use the full power (700KB/s+) to get some serious DL'ing done

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Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??
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Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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frogskins said:
Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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Well neither do I. I have cable at home that's plenty fast. but I have no problem at all running up 4gb or more a month on my mobile. I mean syncing Gmail and social network accounts for a month is over 200mb lol.

frogskins said:
Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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WAAAT
How on earth do you get away using only 200MB?
my lowest month was 800MB and half that time I was out of the country!
martonikaj said:
Well neither do I. I have cable at home that's plenty fast. but I have no problem at all running up 4gb or more a month on my mobile. I mean syncing Gmail and social network accounts for a month is over 200mb lol.
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Yeah seriously! Last month I hit 7.6GB...month before that was 8GB.... Most months I'm around 3-4GB but I've been streaming movies lately.... but when using 2-4GB Its mainly just emails, picture sync, etc....maybe I'm that 1% every mobile carrier hates?

blackbanjo said:
ATT busted me for tethering and removed my unlimited plan. I ended up going with verizon becuase of it and have never looked back. The unlimited was nice, but verizon speeds with GNexus is far better.
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Wow, exactly the same.
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I guess it came across wrong. We tether for about 200MB a month. We actually use much more data than that using the phones as intended. I use Wifi every chance I get and still rack up about 1.5GB total per month. My wife forgets to use Wifi and will rack about 3GB normally. We are both grandfathered unlimited data on Verizon.
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frogskins said:
I guess it came across wrong. We tether for about 200MB a month. We actually use much more data than that using the phones as intended. I use Wifi every chance I get and still rack up about 1.5GB total per month. My wife forgets to use Wifi and will rack about 3GB normally. We are both grandfathered unlimited data on Verizon.
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Well that makes more sense. First post was worded horribly

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Well that makes more sense. First post was worded horribly
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Going back and looking, it was
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Can Sprint tell if we're tethering over wifi?

My understanding is that with PDANet, tethering looks like normal data use. Does Wireless Tether or the hacked Sprint Hotspot app (warm 2.2) also show up as normal data use or can Sprint tell you're tethering over wifi?
I ask because apparently AT&T has been sending letters to customers who use MyWi forcing them to either sign up for a tethering plan or stop tethering... Can (would?) Sprint do something similar?
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Sprint can't tell unless they use Deep Packet Inspection and see something like "Oh hey, what's all this encrypted traffic coming from Netflix's server?".
As for AT&T, they're just yelling at anyone with high amounts of data usage. Simple as that.
I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
i'm not sure if they can, but i think they stated publicly that they dont care. their paid one just works better, and on 3g and 4g, while consuming less battery than the rest. this is their response, and i think it works well. self-advertising while not angering devs. pretty good of them.
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
Evo13 said:
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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if you switch roms, most have a hacked hospot to work on 3g. wifi tether app also works on 4g.
Evo13 said:
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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you can do both no charge.
Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
engelsione said:
I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
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Yeah, but it wouldn't be a store employee checking anyway. Either way, seems like they don't care.
My evo was rooted with revoked, but still using the standard rom. I was able to use wireless tether without converting to any other rom. Be sure to use the security features (passphrase and access control) to prevent inadvertent use by others.
TheEdge88 said:
Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
cruise350 said:
Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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they dont have a throttle, they just look into it if you pull that much. like somebody said earlier, if you're pulling 8 gigs from netflix's server, there is only one explanation.
Anybody know of any specific examples of customers getting called out for excessive data use or wifi tethering? I assume there would've been an outrage on XDA and I would've heard about it... I don't think it's happened yet.
I get it that Sprint says they're truly unlimited but I have a nagging suspicion that they're eventually going to crack down on unauthorized tethering. Not that that's going to stop me in the mean time!
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I'd have to dig through the contract and T&C but technically speaking wouldn't tethering without a plan be a contract violation? I'm not claiming to be Mr. Innocent here. I've done the free tethering and have had tethering plans. Just seems to me that since we all signed contracts legally speaking the carriers have more of a leg to stand on than we do.
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I think with the sale of tmobile to at&t, Sprint will increase their user base with people bailing either one. Maybe, hopefully not, they'll begin to check our usage.
Then again, they'll be moving to LTE. Which means those of us with wimax devices, yours truly, will be left to use our data to our desires. At least I hope so.
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I use over 20 gigs a month downloading files(ROMs, files for work, etc) and streaming videos to my phone and have for almost two years. Not once have I been throttled or warned.
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So it sounds like the takeaway is that if Sprint wanted to, they could tell that you're tethering, but there is no evidence that they've ever done it or taken any action against customers... Cool.
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Sprint is a member of the open handset alliance. They don't care.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
I use Slingplayer daily for hours sometimes, then I'll tether my iPad 2 and watch movies from my computer while traveling around via AirVideo. I am currently at 10GB of usage this month which is average, they never throttled me or anything.
I've hit over 12GB of usage regularly with no complaints from Sprint. YMMV.

now that i'm rooted, how do I wifi tether?

I'm on stock GB but rooted. Any suggestion to wifi tether without install a new ROM?
UPDATE: download open garden wifi tether from the marketplace works!
mxl180 said:
I'm on stock GB but rooted. Any suggestion to wifi tether without install a new ROM?
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Did you check the market.
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pretty much, i wasn't aware of getting it any other way
Khilbron said:
Did you check the market.
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Does anyone know how the carriers are identifying tetherers. Verizon had begun bocking tethering apps and att has said they well start charging those who tether.
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kingsway8605 said:
Does anyone know how the carriers are identifying tetherers. Verizon had begun bocking tethering apps and att has said they well start charging those who tether.
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They can suspect by how much data usage, and unless its a completely ridiculous amount, you are fine. I tether, but its nothing great at all.
teh roxxorz said:
They can suspect by how much data usage, and unless its a completely ridiculous amount, you are fine. I tether, but its nothing great at all.
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They aren't using data usage to tell. There are reports all over of people opening tethering apps and getting redirected to warnings.
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On android phones?
kingsway8605 said:
They aren't using data usage to tell. There are reports all over of people opening tethering apps and getting redirected to warnings.
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xlGmanlx said:
On android phones?
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Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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I installed this version:
http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_1-beta2.apk
Also, in my opinion, the only way SPRINT can tell if you're tethering is if they had a way to access the routing tables (i.e. MAC Addresses) on your phone. Simply using a lot of data isn't 100% proof considering that Netflix, HULU and Google Video offer streaming services. I use HDMwIn to watch movies from my phone to my HDTV so it's not like I'm restricted to watching a good flick on my 4.3" screen.
I am assuming verizon would do something like that
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Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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kingsway8605 said:
Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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AT&T and Verizon have definitely figured out ways to tell if you're using a tethering app and are using it to crack down. I'm not sure it's firmware based, but there are a few ways they could probably figure it out. So far though, there's no evidence Sprint is doing anything like this.
bkrodgers said:
AT&T and Verizon have definitely figured out ways to tell if you're using a tethering app and are using it to crack down. I'm not sure it's firmware based, but there are a few ways they could probably figure it out. So far though, there's no evidence Sprint is doing anything like this.
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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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umm be happy she wasn't charged for tethering
The reality is she is the minority of users that carriers lose money on with unlimited. They did studies in the USA and most folks don't even come close to using it all but we get so hung up on having unlimited we pay extra just for the comfort. I am sure sprint has it all in black and white in our contracts so you should feel good that you weren't charged
dezel29 said:
my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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dezel29 said:
my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Considering sprint advertisers true unlimited, and they emphasize the true unlimited, I would contact the BBB. Find a link to one of the sprint true unlimited ads and give the link in your report.
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Data Throttled Back...Is there a temp solution???

So I just bought my SGS2 last night (coming from a rooted Sensation), and just my luck I hit 5GB after I installed one friggin app! I go back to 4G in 4 days, but I really would rather get my data fast back. Has anyone been able to get their data back by either calling T-Mobile or doing any mod to the phone? Does the "swithcing to 2G in settings and then back to 4G" work for anyone? SO far for me it did not work.
how is i t possible to hit 5gb data with installing 1 app
edit: mayb u had the plan before sgs ii (but it came out 15 days ago so idk how your month would be resetting allready)
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
So I just bought my SGS2 last night (coming from a rooted Sensation), and just my luck I hit 5GB after I installed one friggin app! I go back to 4G in 4 days, but I really would rather get my data fast back. Has anyone been able to get their data back by either calling T-Mobile or doing any mod to the phone? Does the "swithcing to 2G in settings and then back to 4G" work for anyone? SO far for me it did not work.
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camf3xu said:
how is i t possible to hit 5gb data with installing 1 app
edit: mayb u had the plan before sgs ii (but it came out 15 days ago so idk how your month would be resetting allready)
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I am at the end of my billing cycle, and I had a rooted Sensation that I used the crap out of this month prior to buying the SGS2 yesterday. The one app just happened to be the last little bit of data I had left (bad luck).
Now that we have that mystery behind us is there any solutions?
No sorry man, there is no fix. Tmo won't do anything, supposedly they can't. But none of the old workarounds work anymore. It sucks.
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Ive done this once, when my vibrant was in repair, i switched to my blackberry 9780 and had them change me to the blackberry plan. It was the same cost internet package wise so i paid nothing, but the blackberry web plan was different so it reset my data, and i was at 6gb and throttled, two days later i got vibrant back and switched back, but my new reset data stayed the same.
Hope this helps
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Ive done this once, when my vibrant was in repair, i switched to my blackberry 9780 and had them change me to the blackberry plan. It was the same cost internet package wise so i paid nothing, but the blackberry web plan was different so it reset my data, and i was at 6gb and throttled, two days later i got vibrant back and switched back, but my new reset data stayed the same.
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I will see if there is a work-around using your advice, thanks! I have a feeling it's back to worse than Edge and WiFi for a few days. It's like having a naked and willing chick on your bed, but you can't touch her!!!
is there one? yea upgrade to 10GB stop being cheap
Dude ride it out. Nothing you can do. Next time use wifi as much as possible.
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G1_enthusiast said:
is there one? yea upgrade to 10GB stop being cheap
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I tried this and they told me 10 GB was only available for tablets. Do you have 10?
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just a wise crack...
it's called wifi.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
I tried this and they told me 10 GB was only available for tablets. Do you have 10?
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I was able to upgrade to 10 on my phone no problem. It's just so damn expensive.
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So the way T-Mobile phrases it on their plans page, they say something like this:
Unlimited data for social networking and navigating (up to 2 GB of high-speed data included)
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Does this mean if I disable 3G/4G early in the month and use 2G only for let's say 2GB, if I later turn on 3G/4G that I'll still have 2GB of high-speed data?
Or after 2GB are you screwed whether it was on 2G or 3G/4G?
You should be "screwed" after 2gb, whether fast or slow.
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manekineko said:
So the way T-Mobile phrases it on their plans page, they say something like this:
Does this mean if I disable 3G/4G early in the month and use 2G only for let's say 2GB, if I later turn on 3G/4G that I'll still have 2GB of high-speed data?
Or after 2GB are you screwed whether it was on 2G or 3G/4G?
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Tmo is actually pretty legit, they do "pro rated" charges where if you are throttled, you can upgrade to the 5gb plan, just till the end of the month, and only pay the percentage of the month you used that plan for.
my cable went out the day that this show "bored to death" was coming out, and so i just called Tmo upgrade to a 5gb for the last 3 days of my billing cycle and was able to torrent it via tether.
Then i called them to downgrade when my new billing cycle started, i think i only paid 2 or 3 bucks for the extra data.
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I tried this and they told me 10 GB was only available for tablets. Do you have 10?
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10 GB data is available for anyone with a data device, tablet or smart phone. Now it is a $60 per month charge...
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I tried this and they told me 10 GB was only available for tablets. Do you have 10?
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10 GB data is available for anyone with a data device, tablet or smart phone. Now it is a $60 per month charge...
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Only if your plan allows it. I can't get the 10gb on my plan.
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Feedback from Verizon users

Hi,
Yesterday I switched to Verizon and rented a RAZR. Today I have noticed that I have used 300MB in less than 24hrs.
I haven't done any streaming or anything like that, just playing around with the beautiful Verizon's LTE (a lot of speed-tests ).
I'm afraid with faster speed I may use more data than what I have normally used on T-Mobile (2-3GB).
Now my question is;
How much data do you guys normally use?
And what plan you have or plan to get? 4GB, 10GB..
Thanks for your feedback.
i average 500Mb a month in data usage. i use wifi when ever possible.
Device: HTC Incredible
Plan: Unlimited Data
i'd imagine a spike in usage switching to a LTE device but i'm not sure how anyone can use over 10GB a month un-tethered.
according to my most recent usage, it shows i'm currently at 48.490GB
although my new cycle starts tomorrow so....
It may be from the initial setup of the device. A lot of information is exchanged to and from Google including backing up and restoring apps etc.
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voxigenboy said:
according to my most recent usage, it shows i'm currently at 48.490GB
although my new cycle starts tomorrow so....
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im assuming you are tethering? has your speed been throttled at all? also, how has verizon not been like 'you dude, wtf are you doing?" haha.
sjgarbz said:
im assuming you are tethering? has your speed been throttled at all? also, how has verizon not been like 'you dude, wtf are you doing?" haha.
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tether yes, as well as i download torrents directly onto my phone via aDownloader.
apparently, Verizon doesn't care how much 4G usage people put their phones through as there's plenty of '4G' to go around. they only care about 3G users using too much data.
Even without streaming Netflix and barely going on youtube, I hit 3-5GB a month just from web browsing and streaming music from Pandora and Google Music on my Thunderbolt. If you watch a lot of videos, I doubt the 4GB plan will cut it.
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voxigenboy said:
tether yes, as well as i download torrents directly onto my phone via aDownloader.
apparently, Verizon doesn't care how much 4G usage people put their phones through as there's plenty of '4G' to go around. they only care about 3G users using too much data.
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I've read on Droid-life of Verizon customers getting throttled and given warning letters for using 50-100 GB a month.
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I've read on Droid-life of Verizon customers getting throttled and given warning letters for using 50-100 GB a month.
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well, ever since i got the thunderbolt last march, i've regularly used tons of data & have gone over 50GB many times(although haven't gone over 100GB yet...)
i never got any letters & have never been 'throttled' either.
voxigenboy said:
well, ever since i got the thunderbolt last march, i've regularly used tons of data & have gone over 50GB many times(although haven't gone over 100GB yet...)
i never got any letters & have never been 'throttled' either.
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what's your monthly bill like?
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tether yes, as well as i download torrents directly onto my phone via aDownloader.
apparently, Verizon doesn't care how much 4G usage people put their phones through as there's plenty of '4G' to go around. they only care about 3G users using too much data.
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You download torrents.... on your phone? Maybe I am just a wuss, but I would be wayyy too afraid to do that lol. After reading this though, I will be much more liberal with my unlimited data plan.
spovat said:
what's your monthly bill like?
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i have unlimited data for $29 & 200 minutes for $24. with my work discount & taxes & such it comes to around $53 something/month.
i just have the cheapest minutes as the only time i actually make calls i just use my skype account.
I have an unlimited plan, but still with my OG Droid. I typically see 500-700MB a month. I'm also on wi-fi a lot.
Crossing my fingers for a release on Thursday, I need a new phone...
voxigenboy said:
well, ever since i got the thunderbolt last march, i've regularly used tons of data & have gone over 50GB many times(although haven't gone over 100GB yet...)
i never got any letters & have never been 'throttled' either.
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I hope that stays true. I would hate Verizon to start throttling unlimited data customers like all these other carriers are starting to do.
Buddy Revell said:
I hope that stays true. I would hate Verizon to start throttling unlimited data customers like all these other carriers are starting to do.
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i forgot to mention, the bit about Verizon only caring about 3G users using too much data... i had heard that from an actual Verizon employee. i know there can be mis-communication within the company, but considering that so far i've had no troubles i'm going to take his word.
Thanks guys for all your replies.
I plan on geting the 10 gig plan Thursday
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spencer88 said:
I plan on geting the 10 gig plan Thursday
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I'm telling ya dude, you have to try the unlimited data trick:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370720
i got unlimited data
I'm on 3G, and I regularly use between 3GB and 5GB/month on my Droid X. I don't do nearly as much as I used to, and I hardly have my phone connecting to wifi (even at home). I have an unlimited data plan, but I don't abuse it at all. Even if/when I upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, I probably won't abuse it. Why should I? People abusing it just makes it that much worse for those of us that don't.
darkhawkff said:
I'm on 3G, and I regularly use between 3GB and 5GB/month on my Droid X. I don't do nearly as much as I used to, and I hardly have my phone connecting to wifi (even at home). I have an unlimited data plan, but I don't abuse it at all. Even if/when I upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, I probably won't abuse it. Why should I? People abusing it just makes it that much worse for those of us that don't.
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there's no such thing as abuse when "unlimited" is involved. say i have an annual pass at Disneyland or a Season Ticket for the Chargers & I go frequently.. is that abuse?
anyway, this whole 'unlimited/abuse' debate's been brought up many times & I've already argued my side before & realize there's no point in getting into it. just like politics... each side's going to be set in their own beliefs.
so as the hippies say 'peace & love!"

[APP] Wireless Tether for Root Users, ICS incompatibility

Wireless Tether for Root Users (hereinafter WTFRU) was the holy grail of free apps while I was on my rooted droid incredible. I routinely ran every piece of tech off my phone FLAWLESSLY (xbox live, PC, and touchpad)
Today I picked up a VZW Galaxy Nexus and root as soon as I got home. Much to my dismay, WTFRU didn't work (2.0.7). Tried the 3.1 Betas and even the experimental and it's no dice.
The closest I can get to running it is on 3.1-beta7 and selecting the Galaxy SII in device profiles. Tethering fails to start due to one error in the log, which reads: Activating WiFi interface.....FAILED"
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This is a huge let down. If you are like me and depend on this app follow this thread for updates.
stock tethering option works fine for 10 minutes .. then i have to re-turn it on again
i think its a bug in ICS 4.0.1 and will be fixed
Azdian said:
stock tethering option works fine for 10 minutes .. then i have to re-turn it on again
i think its a bug in ICS 4.0.1 and will be fixed
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I installed the OTA pretty early this morning so when I tried the built in tether option I got a pop up saying I needed to subscribe to service
Does the stock tethering app only work with the tethering plan? Wireless tether for root was one of the number one reasons why I went with android
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This is a huge let down. If you are like me and depend on this app follow this thread for updates.
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Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
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That's a tall Nexus, dude.
arrtoodeetoo said:
Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
That's a tall Nexus, dude.
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Haha, well I'm 6'7" so I got mine custom made to keep things proportional
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Haha, well I'm 6'7" so I got mine custom made to keep things proportional
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♩ ♬ Well, I'm a long, tall Nexan...I wear a ten gallon hat... ♪ ♫
replay414 said:
Does the stock tethering app only work with the tethering plan? Wireless tether for root was one of the number one reasons why I went with android
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether =
I REALLY hope the dev gets on this issue. Here's a link to the support section and the open issue:
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
Maybe if more people star the issue and write comments it'll light the proverbial fire under his ass.
GinNjoose said:
Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether
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I'm grandfathered into unlimited, and nowhere on my $30($24 after discount) tethering plan does it state I'm limited to 5GB.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
I'm grandfathered into unlimited, and nowhere on my $30($24 after discount) tethering plan does it state I'm limited to 5GB.
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Oh, alright. Well, that's news to me! I briefly signed up for the service in 2009 when I had a Motorola Q. Back then I was told I was limited to 5GB....then I discovered PDAnet
arrtoodeetoo said:
Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
That's a tall Nexus, dude.
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Lol hilarious
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A contributor is already asking for some help from us. Going to get him the build.prop and whatever else he needs.
Tether
Tethering working flawless on at&t GSM Galaxy nexus . Been using everyday for weeks now not one issue . Sounds like verizon has there hands all up in that cdma phone , hopfully cm9 fix the lockdown verizon has
drawde40599 said:
Tethering working flawless on at&t GSM Galaxy nexus . Been using everyday for weeks now not one issue . Sounds like verizon has there hands all up in that cdma phone , hopfully cm9 fix the lockdown verizon has
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*tears of frustration
GinNjoose said:
Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether =
I REALLY hope the dev gets on this issue. Here's a link to the support section and the open issue:
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
Maybe if more people star the issue and write comments it'll light the proverbial fire under his ass.
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You're only limited to 5gb a month on 3g phones. Oddly enough, if you have an LTE phone you have unlimited data with the mobile hotspot subscription.
Tethering is built into os....
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Some of us prefer to use other tethering apps, which on Verizon 4G is perfectly legal, thanks to Google's input in the FCC auction awhile ago.
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You're only limited to 5gb a month on 3g phones. Oddly enough, if you have an LTE phone you have unlimited data with the mobile hotspot subscription.
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That is helpful. I can justify $24 a month ( with my discount ) knowing that I will be getting unlimited tethering. I'll keep an eye out on the rooted apps before I make the plunge though.
Hoping that there will be a kernel released soon with both wired and wifi tether baked in. I use my Droid, not all the time, but if home or work internet goes down I wire tether. Wifi tether is great on trips to let my tablet get signal to watch Netflix or what not.
I have faith that it will easily get done.
Wifi Tether for Root Users is working again!
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