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Can Sprint tell if we're tethering over wifi?

My understanding is that with PDANet, tethering looks like normal data use. Does Wireless Tether or the hacked Sprint Hotspot app (warm 2.2) also show up as normal data use or can Sprint tell you're tethering over wifi?
I ask because apparently AT&T has been sending letters to customers who use MyWi forcing them to either sign up for a tethering plan or stop tethering... Can (would?) Sprint do something similar?
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Sprint can't tell unless they use Deep Packet Inspection and see something like "Oh hey, what's all this encrypted traffic coming from Netflix's server?".
As for AT&T, they're just yelling at anyone with high amounts of data usage. Simple as that.

I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!

i'm not sure if they can, but i think they stated publicly that they dont care. their paid one just works better, and on 3g and 4g, while consuming less battery than the rest. this is their response, and i think it works well. self-advertising while not angering devs. pretty good of them.

so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?

Evo13 said:
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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if you switch roms, most have a hacked hospot to work on 3g. wifi tether app also works on 4g.

Evo13 said:
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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you can do both no charge.

Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.

engelsione said:
I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
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Yeah, but it wouldn't be a store employee checking anyway. Either way, seems like they don't care.

My evo was rooted with revoked, but still using the standard rom. I was able to use wireless tether without converting to any other rom. Be sure to use the security features (passphrase and access control) to prevent inadvertent use by others.

TheEdge88 said:
Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.

cruise350 said:
Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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they dont have a throttle, they just look into it if you pull that much. like somebody said earlier, if you're pulling 8 gigs from netflix's server, there is only one explanation.

Anybody know of any specific examples of customers getting called out for excessive data use or wifi tethering? I assume there would've been an outrage on XDA and I would've heard about it... I don't think it's happened yet.
I get it that Sprint says they're truly unlimited but I have a nagging suspicion that they're eventually going to crack down on unauthorized tethering. Not that that's going to stop me in the mean time!
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I'd have to dig through the contract and T&C but technically speaking wouldn't tethering without a plan be a contract violation? I'm not claiming to be Mr. Innocent here. I've done the free tethering and have had tethering plans. Just seems to me that since we all signed contracts legally speaking the carriers have more of a leg to stand on than we do.
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I think with the sale of tmobile to at&t, Sprint will increase their user base with people bailing either one. Maybe, hopefully not, they'll begin to check our usage.
Then again, they'll be moving to LTE. Which means those of us with wimax devices, yours truly, will be left to use our data to our desires. At least I hope so.
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I use over 20 gigs a month downloading files(ROMs, files for work, etc) and streaming videos to my phone and have for almost two years. Not once have I been throttled or warned.
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So it sounds like the takeaway is that if Sprint wanted to, they could tell that you're tethering, but there is no evidence that they've ever done it or taken any action against customers... Cool.
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Sprint is a member of the open handset alliance. They don't care.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

I use Slingplayer daily for hours sometimes, then I'll tether my iPad 2 and watch movies from my computer while traveling around via AirVideo. I am currently at 10GB of usage this month which is average, they never throttled me or anything.

I've hit over 12GB of usage regularly with no complaints from Sprint. YMMV.

now that i'm rooted, how do I wifi tether?

I'm on stock GB but rooted. Any suggestion to wifi tether without install a new ROM?
UPDATE: download open garden wifi tether from the marketplace works!

mxl180 said:
I'm on stock GB but rooted. Any suggestion to wifi tether without install a new ROM?
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Did you check the market.
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pretty much, i wasn't aware of getting it any other way
Khilbron said:
Did you check the market.
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Does anyone know how the carriers are identifying tetherers. Verizon had begun bocking tethering apps and att has said they well start charging those who tether.
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kingsway8605 said:
Does anyone know how the carriers are identifying tetherers. Verizon had begun bocking tethering apps and att has said they well start charging those who tether.
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They can suspect by how much data usage, and unless its a completely ridiculous amount, you are fine. I tether, but its nothing great at all.

teh roxxorz said:
They can suspect by how much data usage, and unless its a completely ridiculous amount, you are fine. I tether, but its nothing great at all.
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They aren't using data usage to tell. There are reports all over of people opening tethering apps and getting redirected to warnings.
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On android phones?
kingsway8605 said:
They aren't using data usage to tell. There are reports all over of people opening tethering apps and getting redirected to warnings.
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xlGmanlx said:
On android phones?
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Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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I installed this version:
http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_1-beta2.apk
Also, in my opinion, the only way SPRINT can tell if you're tethering is if they had a way to access the routing tables (i.e. MAC Addresses) on your phone. Simply using a lot of data isn't 100% proof considering that Netflix, HULU and Google Video offer streaming services. I use HDMwIn to watch movies from my phone to my HDTV so it's not like I'm restricted to watching a good flick on my 4.3" screen.

I am assuming verizon would do something like that
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Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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kingsway8605 said:
Yep. It seems the droid x is the most common android phone. Some on the tech blogs say it is baked into the firmware.
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AT&T and Verizon have definitely figured out ways to tell if you're using a tethering app and are using it to crack down. I'm not sure it's firmware based, but there are a few ways they could probably figure it out. So far though, there's no evidence Sprint is doing anything like this.

bkrodgers said:
AT&T and Verizon have definitely figured out ways to tell if you're using a tethering app and are using it to crack down. I'm not sure it's firmware based, but there are a few ways they could probably figure it out. So far though, there's no evidence Sprint is doing anything like this.
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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...

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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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umm be happy she wasn't charged for tethering

The reality is she is the minority of users that carriers lose money on with unlimited. They did studies in the USA and most folks don't even come close to using it all but we get so hung up on having unlimited we pay extra just for the comfort. I am sure sprint has it all in black and white in our contracts so you should feel good that you weren't charged
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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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dezel29 said:
my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Considering sprint advertisers true unlimited, and they emphasize the true unlimited, I would contact the BBB. Find a link to one of the sprint true unlimited ads and give the link in your report.
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Android 4.0 has tethering flags?

Decided to post this here since this is currently the only phone with 4.0 right now.
I'm using a nexus one with 4.0.3 at the moment and I got a text message from at&t telling me that tethering requires a plan after using the native tethering on the phone. I've used tethering on 2.2 and 2.3 for years without issue, and it just seems strange that this happened after upgrading (but it could be unrelated as well) My understanding was that carriers were not able to distinguish data usage through the stock tethering in previous versions (at least in the same way iOS and WP7 handle tethering), or at least at&t wasn't doing so.
Any at&t users have similar experiences with their galaxy nexuses? I'm using an $30 3G iPhone unlimited data plan on my account at the moment

hi
Already have this message for with orange in France...
:-(
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I think the way they have been determining it with the iPhone in the past was with the TTL on the packets being sent. Computers generally have a different TTL than the iPhone. Maybe they started to do the same with Android phones?

Wasn't Koush's ClockworkMod Tether supposed to do the tethering via a method that was supposedly not traceable by carriers?

OJ in Compton said:
Decided to post this here since this is currently the only phone with 4.0 right now.
I'm using a nexus one with 4.0.3 at the moment and I got a text message from at&t telling me that tethering requires a plan after using the native tethering on the phone. I've used tethering on 2.2 and 2.3 for years without issue, and it just seems strange that this happened after upgrading (but it could be unrelated as well) My understanding was that carriers were not able to distinguish data usage through the stock tethering in previous versions (at least in the same way iOS and WP7 handle tethering), or at least at&t wasn't doing so.
Any at&t users have similar experiences with their galaxy nexuses? I'm using an $30 3G iPhone unlimited data plan on my account at the moment
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You should respond back and be like, I don't remember tethering - where's your proof that I did?

ATT has been heavily monitoring for tethering in the last 6 months or so.

adrynalyne said:
ATT has been heavily monitoring for tethering in the last 6 months or so.
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ATT busted me for tethering and removed my unlimited plan. I ended up going with verizon becuase of it and have never looked back. The unlimited was nice, but verizon speeds with GNexus is far better.

I have never really abused it, but my wife and I have been tethering on Verizon well over a year. We have used Wifi Tether for Root on my OG Droid, PDAnet on her Incredible and me currently using native tethering on my GN under Bugless Beast. Never received a single text, email or bill. Granted we only use it combined for about 200MB a month so we might be flying under their radar.
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frogskins said:
Never received a single text, email or bill. Granted we only use it combined for about 200MB a month so we might be flying under their radar.
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Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??

martonikaj said:
Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??
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My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.

extremx said:
My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.
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Understood, but only 200mb for a whole month for 2 people, including tethering? Can't even believe that lol.

extremx said:
My wife played words with friends on her iPad for 3 hours while tethered on a road trip, used about 25mb of data.
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Thank you for that info. I usually use 3G tether for when I'm off wifi on my own tablet but I don't use even 200mb so I (hopefully) will be safe on 4G as well.

careful, with 4G it's tempting to use the full power (700KB/s+) to get some serious DL'ing done

martonikaj said:
Holy ****. How are you only using 200MB combined when you're tethering??
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Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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frogskins said:
Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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Well neither do I. I have cable at home that's plenty fast. but I have no problem at all running up 4gb or more a month on my mobile. I mean syncing Gmail and social network accounts for a month is over 200mb lol.

frogskins said:
Funny you say that. I see people and want they use and always wonder how they use that much. It is not like we try to use it as a replacement to our regular cable internet at home.
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WAAAT
How on earth do you get away using only 200MB?
my lowest month was 800MB and half that time I was out of the country!
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Well neither do I. I have cable at home that's plenty fast. but I have no problem at all running up 4gb or more a month on my mobile. I mean syncing Gmail and social network accounts for a month is over 200mb lol.
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Yeah seriously! Last month I hit 7.6GB...month before that was 8GB.... Most months I'm around 3-4GB but I've been streaming movies lately.... but when using 2-4GB Its mainly just emails, picture sync, etc....maybe I'm that 1% every mobile carrier hates?

blackbanjo said:
ATT busted me for tethering and removed my unlimited plan. I ended up going with verizon becuase of it and have never looked back. The unlimited was nice, but verizon speeds with GNexus is far better.
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Wow, exactly the same.
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I guess it came across wrong. We tether for about 200MB a month. We actually use much more data than that using the phones as intended. I use Wifi every chance I get and still rack up about 1.5GB total per month. My wife forgets to use Wifi and will rack about 3GB normally. We are both grandfathered unlimited data on Verizon.
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frogskins said:
I guess it came across wrong. We tether for about 200MB a month. We actually use much more data than that using the phones as intended. I use Wifi every chance I get and still rack up about 1.5GB total per month. My wife forgets to use Wifi and will rack about 3GB normally. We are both grandfathered unlimited data on Verizon.
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Well that makes more sense. First post was worded horribly

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Well that makes more sense. First post was worded horribly
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Going back and looking, it was
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tethering

Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?

sicmadek said:
Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?
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Did you check in the development section?
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Im referring to a stock phone not rooted

Why not root your phone and tether? Not hard.

Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.

TBayTom said:
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Good find

TBayTom said:
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Thanks as well! :thumbup:
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Att won't let you download it? Is that recent? Cuz I downloaded it not rooted.
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They used to ban all tethering apps but maybe it's changed since the last time I tried.
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Foxfi doesnt show up in market for me on ATT, However verizon did get slapped by the FCC for blocking tethering apps because a deal they had with the FCC for the portion of networks they use, so maybe ATT will copy them since the two compainies copy eachother all the time anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/...ettles-with-fcc-for-1/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter

I personally don't tether. But i know a lot of people that do, some pay for the service from att, some don't. if att is forced to cease blocking tether apps it would almost guarantee a severe enforcement of their policy on"illegal"tethering.

I also wanted to use Foxfi before I rooted, but I couldn't find it in the market. I'm now rooted, so I used the CWM " Tether and Cell Standby Fix" from the MODs section from this thread. It works fine, but I'd be nice if there was a home screen shortcut to enable/disable it quickly.
Hate to go off topic, but in my Captivate I use MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile market. This allow me to install Foxfi directly from the Android market from my rooted AT&T Captivate. I can not get MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile Market on the SGS3. Is there a replacement or fix for MarketAccess or a hack to emulate the T-Mobile Market from an AT&T SGS3?

So if i use foxfi att wont charge me for tethering right?

I have unlimited data on virgin in Canada but my plan does not include tethering and they charge a high rate per mb for tether usage, if i installed a custom rom that enabled tethering would they charge me? they dont when i use apps like clockworkmod tether

Recent at&t customer here, pardon my ignorance...but I'm on the 5gb plan and I thought that it included tethering? Is this not true for all the plans? Seems to me if you pay for 2gb 5gb or a million GB you should be able to use it however you please......

The 5gb plan on ATT does not include tethering unless you pay for it which is an extra $40/month last I checked. If you use tethering apps with ATT and you dont pay for the plan they will send you a test and email stating if you dont stop that they will add the tethering plan to your account automatically.
They are quick on catching you now too. Last time I tethered I used about 200mb of data and I got the email, took a week or so after to get it and yes they can detect you. There are ways to not be detected but they usually can.
About the guy saying you should be able to use it how you want is so true. Verizon just lost a class action lawsuit over this and now have to allow tether apps (which are not illegal) because we should beable to use our data and apps anyway we want without our carrier telling us how. We did buy our devices and pay for the service.
So maybe now other carriers will back off so they dont get sued. Because it was a nice chunk of change Verizon had to let go.

The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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Unless they've changed their policy in the last two weeks the AT&T 5GB plan does NOT include tethering. I'm a ex-AT&T IT employee with their now defunct unlimited data plan still in effect as they cannot pull it from me. On my old old rooted and ROM'd Samsung Captivate i'd tether constantly without issue. Since I got the Galaxy S3 (a month ago & still stock) I tried it two weeks ago and the message came up telling me to call AT&T. I called and was told it's a $50 add-on data plan for hotspotting. Hell with that, FoxFi it is, let them tell me I can't do it. it's my data plan and it's unlimited no matter how I use it.

Nexus 7 (2013) 4G/LTE model

So who's waiting for the 4G/LTE model?
I have the 2012 3G model and its slow as hell, can't wait to get my hands on the LTE model... Anyone knows when its coming out?
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big samm said:
So who's waiting for the 4G/LTE model?
I have the 2012 3G model and its slow as hell, can't wait to get my hands on the LTE model... Anyone knows when its coming out?
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The announcement said "weeks" which is more interesting than "months". LOL
Someone told me in two weeks. I was shocked. Could not confirm.
Hopefully, Google is moving aggressively because I'd love to get the LTE model also.

I'm waiting for the LTE, it's going to be great in the car

Bob Smith42 said:
The announcement said "weeks" which is more interesting than "months". LOL
Someone told me in two weeks. I was shocked. Could not confirm.
Hopefully, Google is moving aggressively because I'd love to get the LTE model also.
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I was hoping it could be this Friday since I'm going to the U.S, Boston, and I'm from Canada oh well I'll have wait
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I'm waiting for the n72 LTE model to come out, it will support tmobile I hope? But if I'm paying over 300$ for something, it has to last me more than a year, so either the LTE nexus 7 or the next nexus 10
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I got lte speeds on my wifi 2013 n7 thanks to tethering
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casonswag said:
I got lte speeds on my wifi 2013 n7 thanks to tethering
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Me too. Never could see spending more money for both a device AND an additional data plan when I can just tether my smartphone's unlimited data connection.

ddb540 said:
Me too. Never could see spending more money for both a device AND an additional data plan when I can just tether my smartphone's unlimited data connection.
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I just wish I didn't have to pay 20 bucks for a tethering plan....

I have a 10gb plan and I only pay 10$ per device to share the data plan.... Yes of course I could turn my Nexus 4 into a hotspot but i would use 2 devices to complete one task... I'm not gonna kill my Nexus 4 battery just to surf on my Nexus 7 that's ridiculous... I rather see my tablet have it's own connection....
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big samm said:
I have a 10gb plan and I only pay 10$ per device to share the data plan.... Yes of course I could turn my Nexus 4 into a hotspot but i would use 2 devices to complete one task... I'm not gonna kill my Nexus 4 battery just to surf on my Nexus 7 that's ridiculous... I rather see my tablet have it's own connection....
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Exactly. It's completely worth the price for the convenience alone. I don't want to have to reach for my phone and my tablet every time I need it, and I'll certainly not just leave my phone constantly broadcasting wifi.
I've been waiting on this since before I/O earlier this year.

waiting patiently for 32gb lte
By the time it gets out, i should have already chosen the proper case....

gksmithlcw said:
I just wish I didn't have to pay 20 bucks for a tethering plan....
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If you run CyanogenMod or almost any other custom ROM, the hotspot is built into the OS, you don't pay anything.

siraltus said:
If you run CyanogenMod or almost any other custom ROM, the hotspot is built into the OS, you don't pay anything.
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True, but my HTC One is stock and staying that way until a stable CM release is available as I'm in no big hurry to hack it at this point.
Also, it's somewhat against the ToS to tether without paying for it so I'm always a little iffy on the topic regardless of what ROM I'm running.

I dont pay nothing for tethering all i use is foxfi been tethering since i had the first n7
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gksmithlcw said:
True, but my HTC One is stock and staying that way until a stable CM release is available as I'm in no big hurry to hack it at this point.
Also, it's somewhat against the ToS to tether without paying for it so I'm always a little iffy on the topic regardless of what ROM I'm running.
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I don't really see why they would give you grief about it. As stiff as the competition is I think your carrier is probably more worried about you giving them the boot than anything. If you had unlimited data and used an insane amount they might care but even then I think they'd just throttle you. (not physically)
At least on my i717 you could use TiBu to freeze a system app which controlled tethering and if you had a widget you could do wifi tethering with just root and a stock rom.

dorkydood said:
Exactly. It's completely worth the price for the convenience alone. I don't want to have to reach for my phone and my tablet every time I need it, and I'll certainly not just leave my phone constantly broadcasting wifi.
I've been waiting on this since before I/O earlier this year.
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...which is why i'm glad i have a Note 2 as a cell phone. Battery lasts eons and for the brief periods i would need data when out and about, it would suffice just well. Everyone's use case scenario is different. I could tether for hours via my Note 2 and not hit the battery a lick. Bluetooth tethering is also an option as well.
*Nexus 7 in my tote bag, Note 2, Zagg Sparq 2.0 6000mAh portable battery charger combo*, i'm good.

Here's the question for me... will the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE support internet tethering. I'm talking about providing it for other devices, not tethering to another device like a phone (what would be the point of getting a tablet that can do cellular data if I have to tether it to a phone that does cellular data)?
The Nexus 7 (2012) couldn't do this out of the box - making it one of the very few modern Android devices like this that couldn't.
I know there are modded ROMs that can, in theory, do this (although from what I've read so far, they're iffy and aren't exactly easy to use), but I'd rather have it right there in the official ROMs.
In the end, if it can't do tethering and it can't be used as a real phone, then I'm thinking the LTE/3G isn't that useful. It would be more practical to connect to my phone and get the wifi version now rather than waiting. Especially since I'd have to buy another data plan anyway.

The big question for me is could I use it as a phone (preferably with stock SMS and Phone apps)? Everyone has pretty solid LTE coverage here, so I'm not all that worried, especially considering my average use of less than a minute.

Zurginator said:
The big question for me is could I use it as a phone (preferably with stock SMS and Phone apps)? Everyone has pretty solid LTE coverage here, so I'm not all that worried, especially considering my average use of less than a minute.
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Any chance you found an answer to your question? I recall seeing some dev post on getting gsm calls working on the 2012 N7 3G, maybe we'll see something like that for the Flo as well...

casonswag said:
I got lte speeds on my wifi 2013 n7 thanks to tethering
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Me too!! Sprint has the entire area around me blanketed in LTE!!!
I use my WIFI at home, at only need to tether if I'm out shopping. I'm on Disability now after a bad car wreck, but when I go back to work any dealership I go to (ASE certified automotive technician) will have WIFI for me to use. Used it on my Asus Infinity at the dealership I was at before my wreck.
ddb540 said:
Me too. Never could see spending more money for both a device AND an additional data plan when I can just tether my smartphone's unlimited data connection.
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Right there with ya man!! My Note 2 gets excellent battery life, plus I've got a spare OEM battery, external battery charger, and 12,000mah external battery pack with dual USB ports that allows charging from both simultaneously!! I never run out of juice no matter where I'm at, or how long I'm there for. I pay Sprint for unlimited data, so why not take advantage of it !! Having fast LTE everywhere around me (I average 30Mbps download at home) is just icing on the cake!!
LordLugard said:
...which is why i'm glad i have a Note 2 as a cell phone. Battery lasts eons and for the brief periods i would need data when out and about, it would suffice just well. Everyone's use case scenario is different. I could tether for hours via my Note 2 and not hit the battery a lick. Bluetooth tethering is also an option as well.
*Nexus 7 in my tote bag, Note 2, Zagg Sparq 2.0 6000mAh portable battery charger combo*, i'm good.
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Sounds very similar to my setup! Very simple to setup and use! I don't see why people say that it's too much of a hassle to tether from their phone. Takes me 10 seconds to start tethering on my phone, and it just sits in my tablet's carrying case while I'm using my tablet. It's not in my way or any kind of hassle what so ever! I'd much rather spend 10 seconds to start tethering on my phone, than spend $10 or more every month for an additional data plan!!
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