[Q] Is it possible to maintain data while moving to different ROM? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I hope someone can help me with this. I am running the latest official Sony (2.3.4 I think), with Doomkernel OC to 1.9GhZ and root. However, although I actually like the Sony overlay much much more than the atrocious Sense, I simply long to try some of the custom ROMs out there.
But I have the following issue: I have downloaded games (legally of course!) which also have their own data installed on SD. If I move to a new ROM, will I have to redownload all that data, or can I simply re-install the titles and they will find the data on my SD instantly? How about save files? Is it possible to maintain them while moving to an entirely new ROM?
Finally, what happens to purchases from Playstation Suite (aka via Sony's store, which takes you to a different website -- not the App Market?) Would I lose these titles?
Too many questions, I know -- but I want to make sure I can get the use I primarily aim for (which is a gaming device) by switching to a custom ROM. So long as I can maintain my save data and not have to redownload GBs of game data using my slow 3G, I will be happy. Also, full compatibility with the Playstation Suite is a must.
I hope you can help me out with this question!

grcd said:
I hope someone can help me with this. I am running the latest official Sony (2.3.4 I think), with Doomkernel OC to 1.9GhZ and root. However, although I actually like the Sony overlay much much more than the atrocious Sense, I simply long to try some of the custom ROMs out there.
But I have the following issue: I have downloaded games (legally of course!) which also have their own data installed on SD. If I move to a new ROM, will I have to redownload all that data, or can I simply re-install the titles and they will find the data on my SD instantly? How about save files? Is it possible to maintain them while moving to an entirely new ROM?
Finally, what happens to purchases from Playstation Suite (aka via Sony's store, which takes you to a different website -- not the App Market?) Would I lose these titles?
Too many questions, I know -- but I want to make sure I can get the use I primarily aim for (which is a gaming device) by switching to a custom ROM. So long as I can maintain my save data and not have to redownload GBs of game data using my slow 3G, I will be happy. Also, full compatibility with the Playstation Suite is a must.
I hope you can help me out with this question!
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Im 99.9% sure you will need to re download the data as well as the save states being no good anymore. I dont think you will lose the titles from the Playstation Suite, but I dont use it so I cant say for sure.
If you wanna try it out, just make a backup and then flash the custom rom, if the games dont work anymore with the same sd card data, then you can restore the back up you made and everything will work as it was before you flash the custom rom

What about SMS messages?

Titanium backup?
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Titanium backup?
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Do I have to buy the full version in order to backup everything? Is there a free alternative?

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Now that I'm rooted

What can I do with my phone now that I am rooted? Are there certain things I can do to make my phones speeds processor wise, and internet wise faster? Also how can I now get wifi hotspot on my phone? I have the G2
Now that your rooted, I would suggest to start reading different threads here in the G2/DZ forums and learn the diffrent things you can do with your phone including how to put wifi hotspot on your phone, theres a button called "search" to help you out. =)
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Now that you are rooted you can do a lot to your phone, now that you have full control of it.
You can uninstall pre-installed applications that you don't use or want
You can install a custom recovery environment that allows you to make a full system backup of your phone to your SD card.
You can install a custom ROM (new version of Android OS) that has different features/capabilities.
You can run "root-only" applications, for example Titanium Backup (highly recommended)
As mentioned above, search and browse these forums and see what the possibilities are.
Like the other replies...basically now u can do whatever u want to your phone!
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Restoring games after flashing new firmware.

I have not seen any threads about this so I have to ask this now. I am tired of flashing new firmware but then having to update each game over wi-fi all over again. Using root explorer can I just save the files in the mnt\ASEC folder to my SD card & simply restore them after (ex. \mnt\asec\com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftAsp6.asphalt6-1.asec)? Or is it mnt\secure\asec\ com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftAsp6.asphalt6-1.asec? Do I have to change permissions? Is this even the folder that has the full updated data or am I looking in the wrong spot? And then should I install individual game's APK after the transfer?? I would think this would allow someone to save games and share them with other xperia play users as well? Any help is much appreciated.
Why not backup all your games in titanium backup with data before flashing new firmware?
I really did not think of that. :| I know I can restore the app(or game), but would I be able to restore the apps data on a different firmware without getting problems or fc's? Especially when flashing different custom ROM's I know certain apps may not work when you try to restore the data as well.
cyrusalmighty said:
I really did not think of that. :| I know I can restore the app(or game), but would I be able to restore the apps data on a different firmware without getting problems or fc's? Especially when flashing different custom ROM's I know certain apps may not work when you try to restore the data as well.
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Games should be fine when transferring from one ROM to another because games are supposed to run on different devices and they don't really take a phones hardware profile/rom into consideration when running...
I transferred stock to cyanogen and didn't have any issues, Apps like video players/ad blockers/audio player might be a bit of a bother but you could easily reinstall them.
Well this sounds like a good solution to me and its simple too. And since I have always used used titanium backup anyways it would seem I have always had backups to my games. Now you see why I had to ask.lmao. Thanks for pointing this out and hopefully this helps someone else out.
Ok im back to the same question again about where the actual game update data is stored again. I was successful before restoring game on my phone ,but say I want to share my games (that are already updated) with a friend on another xperia play, then is there a folder that I need to manually transfer over to their SD card that has game data? Basically I did backup of the games with "TB" on my phones SD then I put that SD card in other xplay,restored to root of phone, booted up game fine without need to update over wifi message but after reboot. I got the same damn message.... ??
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After reading on different sites I think that on the SD card I have to have a folder called Gameloft/Games/(x). X will be a specific folder for game (EX.GloftA6HP for Asphalt 6, Modern Combat 2: Black Pegasus is Games/GloftBPHP ). Without this Data file in proper place I guess you are forced to do updates over like me.lol. If anyone cares. Hope it helps.
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link2SD Convert system app ==> user app

hi guys
i checked the link 2SD latest version that enable you to convert system app to user app , then link them to SD card !!
fantastic ! isn't it ?
but i found that converting some system app makes our rom crazy and Force close happening.
my question is , do you know which app's are convert-able and which one isn't ?!
till now , i know that converting phone and home launcher makes sooooo many force close !
can you please share your experience together ?
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
lightningdude said:
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
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thank you
i'm ganna try it again
there is a light , always
neverwinter said:
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
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bricked? if xperia play hardware is not effected in anyway, and you have CWM, unlocked bootloader its never bricked just soft bricked
I tried it on Gmail and it wouldn't do it.
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I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
Rogue Leader said:
I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
lightningdude said:
What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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Hilariously, that exact question came across my head last night. In all reality I think they are done with it, we are never gonna see 2.3.4 or ICS (although shockingly they still sell it $19.99 w/2 yr in store, or free online w/2yr).
I'm gonna probably go the titanium backup route. I am running out of space severely.
U can try system/app mover on play store,but u need root. It works great! I changed some apps in my Cyanogen nightly build,like messaging app ,or stock camera and even converted Gboard

[Q] Less than 90mb free?

I've had my phone rooted for ages, deleted bloat, and about 260mb free. I did the Link2sd but this was after a few apps had updated. I've installed/deinstalled loads of apps over time but now find myself with less than 90mb free, all bloat gone, 3 emus installed, Rage of Bahamut, whatsapp, Go Launcher,Sms,Contacts. That's it. Is there an app to system clean internal memory? I use Titanium Backup Pro to back up my important bits. I've flashed firmware before to gain root after ota updates, so have a rough idea of what im doing I think lol. Just started to learn the android SDK tools and adb.
My big question. Can I backup using Tbpro: all data profiles and apps I want to keep. Flash phone (starting from beginning again as as a new phone), root delete bloat, link2sd, reinstall backups, and be good to go?
Or is there an easier way?
Also, I've never flashed new roms/kernels as I don't understand everything yet.
I only use my phone for calls,text,email,emus,few games and that's about it. Is there a Rom/kernel I could flash, to make it more streamlined for what I use it for?
Sorry for the long post and probably asking Qs you've all heard before, but im just starting to get into phone/app developing and thought, who better to ask than the guys in the know, XDA.
Flipfoot said:
I've had my phone rooted for ages, deleted bloat, and about 260mb free. I did the Link2sd but this was after a few apps had updated. I've installed/deinstalled loads of apps over time but now find myself with less than 90mb free, all bloat gone, 3 emus installed, Rage of Bahamut, whatsapp, Go Launcher,Sms,Contacts. That's it. Is there an app to system clean internal memory? I use Titanium Backup Pro to back up my important bits. I've flashed firmware before to gain root after ota updates, so have a rough idea of what im doing I think lol. Just started to learn the android SDK tools and adb.
My big question. Can I backup using Tbpro: all data profiles and apps I want to keep. Flash phone (starting from beginning again as as a new phone), root delete bloat, link2sd, reinstall backups, and be good to go?
Or is there an easier way?
Also, I've never flashed new roms/kernels as I don't understand everything yet.
I only use my phone for calls,text,email,emus,few games and that's about it. Is there a Rom/kernel I could flash, to make it more streamlined for what I use it for?
Sorry for the long post and probably asking Qs you've all heard before, but im just starting to get into phone/app developing and thought, who better to ask than the guys in the know, XDA.
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Link2SD has options to clear the dalvik cache and normal cache, also ROMwise if you have an r800x (CDMA) you can try Hogwart's COLA rom....both the free version and pro versions of TB can backup apps and their data, which I have used multiple times for my phone. Sometime qhen I've cleared the caches, I've gained up to 120 MBs of free space, which is really nice.
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Titanium Backup ICS -> GB

I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
Yea, some of my saved games wouldn't even load back on gb. Had to start all over again on blast monkeys.
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Jaxp3r said:
I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
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While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
jamieg71 said:
While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
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I'll look into it this weekend if I have time for the multi-flashing, else it would be great if someone could share their GB Titanium Backup of some app (as mentioned, preferably Temple Run) and I would just dive right in.
HipKat said:
Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
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Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Jaxp3r said:
Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
HipKat said:
Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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If that's the case, my guess is that it's dependent on the app then.
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Had no time to do multiple flashes this weekend. If someone else has time to do so, or if they're already on GB, it would be appreciated if you could post your Titanium Backup of an app (Temple Run preferred).
HipKat said:
Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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As usual, HipKat is correct. :good:
I had some time to flash Reloaded this morning and did a restore of my Temple Run's Titanium Backup (TB from now on). Lo and behold, it force closed right away. From there, I went into manage applications to clear the data. After clearing, I opened Temple Run again, to do a run so I could prep it for a TB, to compare the GB files to the previous ICS files that I had.
After clearing the data, however, it seemed to get rid of the FC issue, but still maintained the TB data, meaning that the ICS data was still intact, and functional after flashing back to GB. :victory::victory:
Hopefully this is the case for everyone. I'll report back shortly to see if it works again, because I believe I have a faulty download of the Reloaded .zip causing Aroma to not install everything that I selected. I'm currently re-downloading the .zip as I type this out, so I'll be re-flashing shortly. Once I re-flash (and hopefully the Aroma options carry over this time), I'll check and see if the TB data will be maintained again.
I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
HipKat said:
I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
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Yeah..I am seeing no probs either. I have been back and forth from GB and ics all week. I usually flash the fresh ROM, then go to market and install tb fresh before restoring app and ata, no fc at all...all is well
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