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Now rooting my evo :)

So after having my evo for awhile ive finally decided to go root.
But i do have a couple of questions that i want to clear up.
1st i plan to use unrevokeds one click root method(going the newb way out here)
but my question from there is once i root will i still be able to boot into my stock rom or will i have to flash a custom rom? I want to flash custom roms eventually but i have yet to pick one.
2 From there whats some really good roms to use. ive been looking around but all of them seem to have a lot of bugs that need worked out and im not all about buggy roms lol.
3 Whats a nand unlock?
thats all i can think of for now i appreciate the help

you cant flash custom roms without a nand unlock.
the two levels of rooting
1) basic system root, letting you run root only apps
2) nand, allowing you to flash custom roms and whatnot.
most people start of with fresh or whatever unrevoked gives you.
good luck!

bmtdan said:
So after having my evo for awhile ive finally decided to go root.
But i do have a couple of questions that i want to clear up.
1st i plan to use unrevokeds one click root method(going the newb way out here)
but my question from there is once i root will i still be able to boot into my stock rom or will i have to flash a custom rom? I want to flash custom roms eventually but i have yet to pick one.
2 From there whats some really good roms to use. ive been looking around but all of them seem to have a lot of bugs that need worked out and im not all about buggy roms lol.
3 Whats a nand unlock?
thats all i can think of for now i appreciate the help
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Yes, you can boot into your stock rom. All root does is give you permissions to do stuff to your phone you can't do with root. So, you can still use your stock rom with root permissions.
I have fresh rom 3.2 and I don't know of any bugs that are of any importance. Everything works as far as I'm concerned and battery life is great.
nand unlocked is what allows you to flash custom roms and backup and restore your roms. you have to do this in addition to rooting, it should all be laid out in the tutorial for you.

thanks guys you both were very helpful?
Is there an easy wway to unroot?

bmtdan said:
thanks guys you both were very helpful?
Is there an easy wway to unroot?
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There is a thread in the dev forum titled How to Unroot.
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[Q] Android 2.3 for rooted evo with HTC Sense

Hey all,
I did some searching but could not find a specific answer for my question, and please excuse my lack of rooting/rom knowledge.
I rooted my Evo 4G a few months back and want to know if I can update it to the latest version of android without loosing my Factory HTC sense?
Also I think I rooted with unrevoked???? and I was looking at ROM Manager in-case I had to loose my HTC Sense to update, I would like to find a close HTC Sense rom to put back, but from what I found ROM Manager does not work with a phone rooted with unrevoked. How can I tell if that is what I used?
thanks guys.

5systems said:
Hey all,
I did some searching but could not find a specific answer for my question, and please excuse my lack of rooting/rom knowledge.
I rooted my Evo 4G a few months back and want to know if I can update it to the latest version of android without loosing my Factory HTC sense?
Also I think I rooted with unrevoked???? and I was looking at ROM Manager in-case I had to loose my HTC Sense to update, I would like to find a close HTC Sense rom to put back, but from what I found ROM Manager does not work with a phone rooted with unrevoked. How can I tell if that is what I used?
thanks guys.
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Rom manager will work with whatever root method you used; it just doesn't work with amon_ra recovery. And if you want sense on android 2.3, head over tot he development section and look up a "gingersense" rom.
Just backup your rom in recovery, then flash the new one.

Check out Fresh Evo rom by Flipz its now been updated to 2.3 which is gingerbread what it sounds like you want. But be sure to read the op because it only works correctly with auto dim if you have an Epson panel. Just be sure to read it and decide if its for you. Also I have used Rom Manager and I also used unrevoked forever and I had no issues. Hope this helps.
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Also the Fresh beta is very very buggy with regards to the camera. My video was basically unwatchable. But aside from that, 2 thumbs WAY THE **** UP it's an awesome ROM.

Virus kingdom Rom will be the end all Rom. Check out the kingdom thread.
Infected HTC Supersonic.........<3 Virus

go with miks gingersense till Virus drops his Kingdom port

5systems said:
Hey all,
I did some searching but could not find a specific answer for my question, and please excuse my lack of rooting/rom knowledge.
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I'll do my best to answer your question.
I rooted my Evo 4G a few months back and want to know if I can update it to the latest version of android without loosing my Factory HTC sense?
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Yes. Go to the link below and download the leaked Gingerbread rom with HTC Sense. Afterwards, go into recovery and make a nandroid of your current setup. After that, you can either wipe cache & dalvik and flash atop of your current rom or do a full wipe and then flash. If you decide you want to go back to what you had, simply go into recovery and restore the backup you made. If you didn't do a nandroid backup, go to the second link below and download one of the shipped roms for the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Also I think I rooted with unrevoked???? and I was looking at ROM Manager in-case I had to loose my HTC Sense to update, I would like to find a close HTC Sense rom to put back, but from what I found ROM Manager does not work with a phone rooted with unrevoked.
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If you rooted your device with UnrEVOked, then more than likely, your recovery is ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod gets the job done, but I recommend using amon RA v2.3. I believe it is more stable and I like the menu layout. Still, it's all a matter of preference. As for ROM Manager, I'm not a fan of it. It is far too easy to go into recovery to manually flash roms, however, ROM Manager does work with amon RA in that it can swap recoveries for you as well as flash roms.
How can I tell if that is what I used?
thanks guys.
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The easiest way is to start ROM Manager. There should be a section that tells you what your recovery is.

[Q] Instructions on updating while keeping root when s-off&clockworkmod

I rooted using "unrevoked". I currently have it set on S-Off. Currently have ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.2 installed.
What are the exact steps needed to get the new update while keeping rooting?
Once those steps are clearly written. Can we make sure everyone sees this thread/the correct steps for example making it a bullet/new thread. I'm NOT going to read through 300 pages to get what little information I need.

runcool said:
I rooted using "unrevoked". I currently have it set on S-Off. Currently have ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.2 installed.
What are the exact steps needed to get the new update while keeping rooting?
Once those steps are clearly written. Can we make sure everyone sees this thread/the correct steps for example making it a bullet/new thread. I'm NOT going to read through 300 pages to get what little information I need.
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There are instructions posted on the general section for this
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!

I see nothing but spam in the general section. and you're spamming this thread. If you can't reply with a real answer or even a link or what I'm missing THAN DON'T REPLY!

Flash the rooted version of the update. Deodexed if you want to theme/modify it, odexed otherwise.
Do a nandroid backup first, just to be safe. I would think you could just wipe cache and dalvik cache since technically it's an update. If you get bootloops, restore from your backup if you want to back up your apps/data with Titanium Backup. Then wipe data, cache and dalvik and flash again. If you've already backed up whatever you want to save, or if you don't care about saving your apps, you can go ahead and wipe everything and reflash without restoring.
EDIT: And there are directions for this, you just have to actually search.

Similar Q: Upgrading Froyo to GB but keeping Root.
plainjane said:
Flash the rooted version of the update. Deodexed if you want to theme/modify it, odexed otherwise.
Do a nandroid backup first, just to be safe. I would think you could just wipe cache and dalvik cache since technically it's an update. If you get bootloops, restore from your backup if you want to back up your apps/data with Titanium Backup. Then wipe data, cache and dalvik and flash again. If you've already backed up whatever you want to save, or if you don't care about saving your apps, you can go ahead and wipe everything and reflash without restoring.
EDIT: And there are directions for this, you just have to actually search.
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OK, maybe its good to post this here since it relates. I have searched but didn't find any instructions covering my question:
I have downgraded my HTC Desire Z from Gingerbread to Frodo and obtained root, S-OFF, etc, using gfree. I know I can upgrade back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted and one or two saying it can, but not how. [and I think these are possibly just by noobs who dont know better], and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? THANKS!

canopic said:
OK, maybe its good to post this here since it relates. I have searched but didn't find any instructions covering my question:
I have downgraded my HTC Desire Z from Gingerbread to Frodo and obtained root, S-OFF, etc, using gfree. I know I can upgrade back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted and one or two saying it can, but not how. [and I think these are possibly just by noobs who dont know better], and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? THANKS!
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Don't accept an OTA while rooted.
Just flash a GB rooted rom or any other updated rooted rom based on GB...or ICS for that matter.
Look in the development section for your Desire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=758

You can't.
Before I rooted my phone I asked a guy at Sprint about it and whats good and bad, one of the things he said was you can't update unless you unroot. then you can reroot and you'll still have the updates

LeviRockerSk8er said:
Before I rooted my phone I asked a guy at Sprint about it and whats good and bad, one of the things he said was you can't update unless you unroot. then you can reroot and you'll still have the updates
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I was thinking the latest root roms that have the updates in them

runcool said:
I see nothing but spam in the general section. and you're spamming this thread. If you can't reply with a real answer or even a link or what I'm missing THAN DON'T REPLY!
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Dude calm down he was helping out newb
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Anyways on topic don't even think about unrooting its horrible and you can just wait for someone to have a rom that is mostly stock and captain_throwback is the man.
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[Q] is it possible to backup my current Rom before installing a custom Rom

Sorry for noob question but is it possible to do this? If not how would I restore my Desire HD to the official Rom after installing a custom one?
Thanks in advance.
T90

armadacd55 said:
Sorry for noob question but is it possible to do this? If not how would I restore my Desire HD to the official Rom after installing a custom one?
Thanks in advance.
T90
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You can back it up in the clockworldmod recovery in the ''backup & restore'' option.

actually depends of the version i think... because the newer versions are rootable only via downgrade. so to be able to install custom recovery aka clockworkmod/4ext, you need to downgrade first. in which case, you cant.
it may be possible to downgrade, root, flash cwm/4ext, flash newer stock, all without wipe, and then backup, but this is just a guess, i havent tied it, since 1st thing i have done when i got my phone i rooted it
edit: this was a guess since i understood you want to keep data
if you dont care about data, of course it is possible. but unrooting is something a bit different, still very doable

yes, with clockworldmod and ext4 and remember after you backed up your rom copy the clockworldmod/ext4 folder to your pc

[Q] Help! Flashing any kind of custom rom

My phone is rooted, S-off and with clockworkmod recovery. My question is - can I flash any version of rom (example: from 2.3.5 to 2.3.3 or from gingerbread to ICS and vice versa)? What are the tips that you can suggest about upgrading, downgrading custom roms?

Just remember to do full wipe every time you change the ROM with different build. For any sense based ROM, you can match up RIL with your radio.

drpsyko said:
Just remember to do full wipe every time you change the ROM with different build. For any sense based ROM, you can match up RIL with your radio.
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What if it is unmatched and not sense based?..I recently read posts here in xda saying that its okay to change roms but they didn't mention about RIL and radio.

wagaca90 said:
What if it is unmatched and not sense based?..I recently read posts here in xda saying that its okay to change roms but they didn't mention about RIL and radio.
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My advice don't mess with radio or ril. They are region based according to where your at. Leave well alone, I tried a recommended radio and ril for a rom and got completely crap service. Now I stick to stock radio no matter what rom I use or radio recommended for it. Remember the rom ex. dev may be in Asia and your in new York, you wouldn't use an Asian radio in u.s. You can flash any rom you want but as adviced always do a full wipe when going from one to the other. Gingerbread roms are solid and ICS roms are still in test modes with minor bugs.
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Heh heh heh.
Matching RIL with radio is entirely different thing when flashing new rom. But if you do get a matching RIL, you can live up to 3 days without a need to recharge. I wonder if I can do that again with ICS. Hmmm... Either way, changing RIL is advanced step, although there are no harms in doing it. I would recommend this if you are willing to experiment with your phone, unsatisfied with the cellular services or battery life is totally sucks.

Reinaldo33897 said:
My advice don't mess with radio or ril. They are region based according to where your at. Leave well alone, I tried a recommended radio and ril for a rom and got completely crap service. Now I stick to stock radio no matter what rom I use or radio recommended for it. Remember the rom ex. dev may be in Asia and your in new York, you wouldn't use an Asian radio in u.s. You can flash any rom you want but as adviced always do a full wipe when going from one to the other. Gingerbread roms are solid and ICS roms are still in test modes with minor bugs.
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thanks guys! now I know!

drpsyko said:
Just remember to do full wipe every time you change the ROM with different build. For any sense based ROM, you can match up RIL with your radio.
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I just used aahk to root my dhd, now reading and learning how to change to custom rom. I am also concerned about messing up the radio.
If I have ship s-off, can I play with the custom roms in the development forum? Will they change the radio of the phone by using the default setting in the flashing process such that the phone cannot be flashed again? can I switch back and forth GB and ICS roms?
Do I need special app or program to wipe the phone?
Thanks.

Barbarians.at.the.gate said:
I just used aahk to root my dhd, now reading and learning how to change to custom rom. I am also concerned about messing up the radio.
If I have ship s-off, can I play with the custom roms in the development forum? Will they change the radio of the phone by using the default setting in the flashing process such that the phone cannot be flashed again? can I switch back and forth GB and ICS roms?
Do I need special app or program to wipe the phone?
Thanks.
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Most of the roms will not lock your phone nor will they flash a different radio. And yes, you can flash back and forth. Just make sure to make a backup of your rom and full wipe before flashing.
There are a few that will be the OTA/stock rom or whatever its called that could lock your phone, it will state in the header what it is your flashing. Read the threads.
You can use 4ext, rom manager, etc to wipe and make backups. Both of those have the touch version. Install the touch version. Most users prefer 4ext. There are also scripts that will full wipe for you instead of doing the manual clicking.
More stuff I don't remeber due to lack of coffee.
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Teichopsia said:
Most of the roms will not lock your phone nor will they flash a different radio. And yes, you can flash back and forth. Just make sure to make a backup of your rom and full wipe before flashing.
There are a few that will be the OTA/stock rom or whatever its called that could lock your phone, it will state in the header what it is your flashing. Read the threads.
You can use 4ext, rom manager, etc to wipe and make backups. Both of those have the touch version. Install the touch version. Most users prefer 4ext. There are also scripts that will full wipe for you instead of doing the manual clicking.
More stuff I don't remeber due to lack of coffee.
Sent from a dream.
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Thanks Teichopsia. I don't understand what do you mean by touch version. I have installed ROM Manager from Google Play Store.
How do I find out whether I have ClockWorkMod installed on the phone or not?
If not, should I use the optional install of Advance Ace Hack Kit to install CWM 5.0.2.7 or use Rom Manager to install the CWM?
I read that many experts here warn us not to restore system apps and system data backed up by Titanium Backup to the phone. Does it mean that backing up and restoring user apps (e.g. games, utility, tools, etc.) after flashing new ROM are ok?