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Help the noob root!

Hey guys,
I would like to root my phone mainly for the backup abilities and the ability to delete some of the apps that were pre-loaded on the phone.
So I have a few questions about rooting...
Which method should I use?
When I root my phone do I have to install a rom or can I keep what I have going on now?
When I want to update, do I have to use roms or can I use the updater on the phone?
Will everything be erased?
Is it even worth it?
Will I gain better battery life?
thank you in advance.

You should use the rooting guide that is applicable to your phones software version. If you are running 1.47 then use the rooting guide for that, if it is a smaller version start with toasts guide to rooting part 1. These guides are found in the dev section.
When you install a new Rom it will replace what you have now. You can use a stock rooted Rom or a custom Rom depending on what you want. There are backup tools if you have apps or data you want to save before flashing a new Rom.
After you root never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever take an ota update. Wait for the update to be incorporated into a Rom and then flash the new Rom.
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Hey thanks alot for the info man... is there a sertain backup tool you would suggest to save the things i have now and put them on after the root is done?

i use titanium backup..

Downloaded titanium backup... gunna try to root today or tomorrow, we'll see how it goes

Rooting Slide but keep the stock rom?? How to?

Team-
I have a question
How can I root the Slide to get root permissions with superuser icon without having to flash a custom ROM. I Like the Stock ROM and want to keep it, all I want is to get Root permissions to be able to do wifi teher....is this possible and if yes....how?
I have tried searching the WIKI's but all of them say something different & i dont want to brick my phone....any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bb8900 said:
Team-
I have a question
How can I root the Slide to get root permissions with superuser icon without having to flash a custom ROM. I Like the Stock ROM and want to keep it, all I want is to get Root permissions to be able to do wifi teher....is this possible and if yes....how?
I have tried searching the WIKI's but all of them say something different & i dont want to brick my phone....any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, it is possible. You'll want to root your phone, downgrade to the engineering build, and then flash ChiefzReloaded's Stock+OTA rom.

yes it's possible. it's called stock rooted. just follow the root tutorial. you will be rooted. no need to flash the eng build as you're not trying to flash a custom rom.
or what he said ^^^ ... lol

poetik517 said:
yes it's possible. it's called stock rooted. just follow the root tutorial. you will be rooted. no need to flash the eng build as you're not trying to flash a custom rom.
or what he said ^^^ ... lol
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Noob question: Other than CR's ROM having the OTA, what other difference is there between stock rooted and the ROM?
Does tethering, apps2sd (ext) and such work on rooted stock?

HebrewToYou said:
Yes, it is possible. You'll want to root your phone, downgrade to the engineering build, and then flash ChiefzReloaded's Stock+OTA rom.
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you guys do realize that chiefzreloaded stock+ota rom, however close to being stock, is not the oem rom. That rom has tweaks.
To get the oem rom follow the directions to root you will end up with the completely 100% oem ROM (if you follow the original root guide) that you can install some root apps (like wifi tether). NOW if you want to flash the eng rom to have the release keys and ease of going into clockwork, then you want to go back into clockwork and make a nandroid. This way after flashing the eng you can restore the nandroid and still have all the benefits of eng release but have your fully stock rom. Also with that nandroid you always have your stock rom as a backup you can go back to w/o loosing root.

i ran stock rooted for a while before flashing another rom. my first was eugene's slidemeroot5r1. the reason i switched was apps2sd-ext, starting getting the low on space warning (annoying). after fooling around w/ some other roms & making nandroids of each, i am now on the ota rom.
tethering, if i'm not mistaken, should work on stock rooted. it's been a while so i truly can't recall. but you will need to download the program. ..you will not have the option of apps2sd. however, with some of these scripts floating around (firerat & darktremor) it may be possible. don't quote me on that.

turboyo said:
you guys do realize that chiefzreloaded stock+ota rom, however close to being stock, is not the oem rom. That rom has tweaks.
To get the oem rom follow the directions to root you will end up with the completely 100% oem ROM (if you follow the original root guide) that you can install some root apps (like wifi tether). NOW if you want to flash the eng rom to have the release keys and ease of going into clockwork, then you want to go back into clockwork and make a nandroid. This way after flashing the eng you can restore the nandroid and still have all the benefits of eng release but have your fully stock rom. Also with that nandroid you always have your stock rom as a backup you can go back to w/o loosing root.
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that was the ONLY thing i forgot to do. smh. it was on my list and everything. when i was in the process of flashing the eng build, i couldn't for the life of me figure out to get back to clockwork. i was stuck on the red triangle lol. didn't find out till after i flashed another rom that i had to do vol up + power. ..my biggest regret.
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turboyo said:
you guys do realize that chiefzreloaded stock+ota rom, however close to being stock, is not the oem rom. That rom has tweaks.
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It's close enough for government work.
Seriously, it still has all the feel of the stock espresso rom with a bunch of good stuff added in:
This Deletes :
Amazonmp3.apk
AppPack2.0.apk
com.htc.StockWidget.apk
(HTC)Stock.apk
This Installs :
NEW Cyan Boot Animation
CarDock.apk
Gallery3d.apk
Teeter.apk
LiveWallpaper Support
LiveWallpapers
HTC Sense LiveWallpaper
Espresso Sense Non Bubble Icon Themes (nest still has bubbles, i need to extract it from smr5r1) (removed for now)
HTC Flashlight.apk
GenieWidget.apk
Music.apk (Eliot Stocker Music Mod 1.6)
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HebrewToYou said:
It's close enough for government work.
Seriously, it still has all the feel of the stock espresso rom with a bunch of good stuff added in:
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No bubbles on icons = not worth it!

yes and all the system stuff that is messed with for apps2d and to get live wallpapers to work ..some people just want a factory engineered ROM

r0man said:
No bubbles on icons = not worth it!
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LOL the bubbles are easy to push back man just get them from com.htc.resources.apk from stock rom or older slidemeroot and then put them in the the htc.resources.apk from the CR Rom .. you could just push the entire stock apk but I dont know if something is "tweaked" in there

all you have to do is root it, downgrade to the Eng-release, and just jump into the recovery mode. after that reboot your phone and you should have the superuser icon

Umm no? Just follow eugenes root thread worked fine for me when I had stock
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Okay so I'm getting a lot of great feedback....I have the latest OTA on my stock rom which I believe closes the loop for rooting....I read that if you have the new ota you have to install a custom rom for complete root access?? Is that correct?....
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

turboyo said:
yes and all the system stuff that is messed with for apps2d and to get live wallpapers to work ..some people just want a factory engineered ROM
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yes, me to. Also i want Clockwork in ROM. So which Steps i have to do?
I have the 2e Recovery,
First, root the Slide with the old method and backup my Rom with Nandroid
Second install the eng ROM.
Third Step Update the Radio
The Next Step? Restore the Backup? Ist this save? match the kernel to the system?
Thank you for help

Whats a Kernal? Whats the best rom?

Not computer illterate but a 7yr blackberry convert to android. I use my phone lots for work so I like it fast. So I want the newest best software. Can someone steer me in the direction to a guide to what I need to do to root my phone and flash with the newest rom/kernel?
thx

Not trying to be an ass here, but if you haven't Google searched or searched within XDA about these things, you should not even worry about them. The S3 is plenty fast on stock.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium

I need to root it for certain apps.
pretty much im asking. what is a kernel and a rom exactly, and what exactly do I need to do to have my phone completely unlocked/rooted/su

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798695
This thread has a good explanation of ROM/kernel difference. As for "best"ROM, that's subjective. It's like what's the best restaurant. Everyone's opinion is different.

mrhaley30705 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798695
This thread has a good explanation of ROM/kernel difference. As for "best"ROM, that's subjective. It's like what's the best restaurant. Everyone's opinion is different.
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awesome thank you very much
are there any good guides for installing a rom? Im downloading Diets, but he has minimal info in his thread. I read I need to run nanroid and what not but cant find a good howto
thx

je61 said:
awesome thank you very much
are there any good guides for installing a rom? Im downloading Diets, but he has minimal info in his thread. I read I need to run nanroid and what not but cant find a good howto
thx
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Best advice for installing a ROM is to follow the instructions in the first post of that thread. A nandroid is performed in cwm recovery. It's simply a backup of where your phone is right now. It is performed under backup and restore (not actually called a nandroid).

thank you. well his first post is fairly confusing. from my understanding i run CWM, backup,flash,recover?
do i then need to root it?

ROM should be rooted already.

Bit of a newb as well, best way to install a ROM;
Root using the no trip method stickied at the top of the dev forum.
Download and install goo manager and use this to install twrp, a great alternative to cwm.
Download and place the ROM of choice on the sdcard, and boot into recovery (home+vol up+power)
Perform a back up, then wipe and install!!

hapticxchaos said:
Bit of a newb as well, best way to install a ROM;
Root using the no trip method stickied at the top of the dev forum.
Download and install goo manager and use this to install twrp, a great alternative to cwm.
Download and place the ROM of choice on the sdcard, and boot into recovery (home+vol up+power)
Perform a back up, then wipe and install!!
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thank you very much
but if the rom is rooted, whhy did u root first?

je61 said:
thank you very much
but if the rom is rooted, whhy did u root first?
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You need to root your stock ROM to be able to install twrp. Any ROM you flash will come prerooted ;p

Do I really need my bootloader unlocked?

Im not such a fan of custom roms or custom kernels. I always stay on Stock roms, I dont really like to mess around with my phone other then rooting it and i also like to replace system apps from other phones I previously had, so I usually make nandroid backups if something goes wrong I just go back to a previous working backup.
So my quetion is guys... Do I really need to unlock my bootloader? If I brick my phone and need to reflash my stock rom do I need to have it unlocked? Or what would be another way of getting it back to life? Oh and finaly can I have CWM without been unlocked? Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

No one "needs" their bootloader to be unlocked. We unlock it for extra functionality such as flashing custom roms. Since you don't care about that, why do it? No, you don't need an unlocked bootloader to flash back to stock. Yes, CWM can be installed with just root now. These are easy answers that you could find by searching around a little

Thank you bro, but I swear I searched as a matter of fact I have been reading different posts for two days but no one specified this. There is a guide on how to flash CWM but it says you need bootloader unlocked and as of now I still havent found a guide on how to flash stock roms to our Xperia Play so thats why I posted these questions. Im gonna try and find the ways of flashing custom roms and cwm...

installing cwm couldn't be any easier... Just download cwm installer from somewhere Google it and that's it... Or try xparts from the market which is the same app but is just the latest version but I saw people having problem with it maybe they fixed the problem

cippi21 said:
installing cwm couldn't be any easier... Just download cwm installer from somewhere Google it and that's it... Or try xparts from the market which is the same app but is just the latest version but I saw people having problem with it maybe they fixed the problem
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Yeah thanks alot bro, I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390771 (for future refrence). Now I only need the stock rom flashing... Im reading something about flashloader I think im close.

Flashtool is a great program for flashing stock roms...give that a try

cippi21 said:
Flashtool is a great program for flashing stock roms...give that a try
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Thanks bro im gonna try it.

[Q] i747 Root or not

Hi guys,
My beloved S3 is is > 1 year old now.
I was always afraid\skeptical of rooting it as it lead to void warranty
Since it is already > 1 year old and warranty does not come into picture now, I thought why not give it a try now..
I see many S3 users are more than efficient after root.
Should I go for it ?

praddz said:
Hi guys,
My beloved S3 is is > 1 year old now.
I was always afraid\skeptical of rooting it as it lead to void warranty
Since it is already > 1 year old and warranty does not come into picture now, I thought why not give it a try now..
I see many S3 users are more than efficient after root.
Should I go for it ?
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Yes, unleash your device!! It's easy, and opens up a whole new way to interact with your phone
Sent from my SGH-I747M using xda premium

Yes, root to experience the full capabilities of your phone.
Please be sure to read all guides and FAQs and be familiar with GS3 terminology.
Read tons....i mean TONS!!
Search and reading will be your besfriends.
Root, experiment, enjoy greatness

Root and unleash the chains that bind you.
Take it from a noob, read, read and re-read.
Easier to read about potential problems before they arise than after.:good:

i can has root?

Rooting is a must. I went for root the day i got the phone and went reading up on rooting the S3, roms, etc. before i even got the phone.

first thing i did when i got my s3 in april was root it. and my dad has the same phone i have, and i have to say having mine rooted vs his stock, mine gets so much better battery life. and is just one of the perks of rooting other than overclock and underclock and custom roms and stuff.

...and Sammy phones are fairly fool proof when it comes to rooting and flashing

Yes, it seems like we have many 1 click tools to do this.
I just want to go slow, I want to unlock the boot loader first & then uninstall all the att crap..
that should free up some space n RAM..
Later on I can install custom ROM's and Kernels if need be..
This can be done right...

First thing you should do is make a backup of your stock unmodified system before you remove or erase anything or install roms. And also make a copy of the backup to a second location like a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747

praddz said:
Yes, it seems like we have many 1 click tools to do this.
I just want to go slow, I want to unlock the boot loader first & then uninstall all the att crap..
that should free up some space n RAM..
Later on I can install custom ROM's and Kernels if need be..
This can be done right...
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S3 doesn't have a locked bootloader. Reality just have to flash a rooted stock firmware in Odin and you are good to go.
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stelv said:
First thing you should do is make a backup of your stock unmodified system before you remove or erase anything or install roms. And also make a copy of the backup to a second location like a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
2) take backup of everything using titanium
3) then uninstall all the useless apps which came along with att
4) if required i will flash custom rom and kernel else i will stick with everything stock..
The reason I want to stop at unlocked boot loader is that as of now I already have 4.1.1, and I have read everywhere that 4.1.2 isn't much of a revolution so why flash a custom ROM. People might not agree with this but I tend to think so...
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:

praddz said:
yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:
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No
Don't even think about touching anything dealing with bootloaders.
The i747 comes with an unlocked boot loader, the only one that is locked is the Verizon S3.
There have been various bricked S3 by trying to "unlock" something that isnt locked.
Read read read and search and research.
Before you wind up with a paperweight
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

praddz said:
yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
2) take backup of everything using titanium
3) then uninstall all the useless apps which came along with att
4) if required i will flash custom rom and kernel else i will stick with everything stock..
The reason I want to stop at unlocked boot loader is that as of now I already have 4.1.1, and I have read everywhere that 4.1.2 isn't much of a revolution so why flash a custom ROM. People might not agree with this but I tend to think so...
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:
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No I am not talking about just backing everything up with titanium backup. I am talking about backing up your stock untouched system with a custom recovery like twrp or clockwork recovery. After root you will most likely have a custom recovery installed like twrp. You can boot into this custom recovery and backup the entire system in its current state, because sometimes when certain system apps are removed you will get force closes and bootloops and the only way to restore your phone is by restoring a backup, flashing a rom or pushing a system to your phone via odin.
Removing stock apps that came with your phone can be risky at times because they are often tied to other systems. Search to see what apps are safe to remove and a system backup is probably good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665

Do not attempt to unlock the bootloader! It is unlocked already. Your proper plan of action should be:
Backup everything possible (MyBackup is what I used)
Root phone (several methods available, choose one)
Install custom recovery. Rom Manager can install CWM for you, while goo manager can install TWRP (I prefer twrp)
Follow instructions for installation off any Rom you download (found in the first post of that Roms thread, usually before you get to the dl link)
Before flashing or attempting any mod, make a back up of everything. And read the directions

Mine is still under warranty and its rooted. Open its can of whoop a**
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

The cool thing for you will be all the awesome tweaks and mods that have out in the last few months because you device is a little elderly. Check out the definitive mod thread in the T-Mobile S3 forum. I forget which thread its in. You can atleast double battery and speed and 20x the customization options. Once you flash a new rom it becomes a habit called flashaholism so be aware. My name is Bubba Fett and I'm a flasaholic.

Finally I did it,, My Galaxy S3 is rooted successfully..
Thanks to you guys & online sources..
-Root is done
-Backup using CWM is taken, a copy is there on Internal Memory, External Memory Card and My Computer
Next step-
-Remove bloatware and free some storage..
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2

praddz said:
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2
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There is no best ROM it all depends on the user. Feel free to try any of them. Just make a Nandroid backup each time before you flash a new one and follow the devs installation instructions. Good luck and have fun!

praddz said:
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2
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I've tried Cyanogenmod, PAC, and AOKP in the past week. All three are butter smooth and stable. You will have to cycle the battery a couple of times for it to fit in (I noticed upon initial flash, battery life was terrible).