Help the noob root! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I would like to root my phone mainly for the backup abilities and the ability to delete some of the apps that were pre-loaded on the phone.
So I have a few questions about rooting...
Which method should I use?
When I root my phone do I have to install a rom or can I keep what I have going on now?
When I want to update, do I have to use roms or can I use the updater on the phone?
Will everything be erased?
Is it even worth it?
Will I gain better battery life?
thank you in advance.

You should use the rooting guide that is applicable to your phones software version. If you are running 1.47 then use the rooting guide for that, if it is a smaller version start with toasts guide to rooting part 1. These guides are found in the dev section.
When you install a new Rom it will replace what you have now. You can use a stock rooted Rom or a custom Rom depending on what you want. There are backup tools if you have apps or data you want to save before flashing a new Rom.
After you root never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever take an ota update. Wait for the update to be incorporated into a Rom and then flash the new Rom.
Yes- see 2
Yes
Yes

Hey thanks alot for the info man... is there a sertain backup tool you would suggest to save the things i have now and put them on after the root is done?

i use titanium backup..

Downloaded titanium backup... gunna try to root today or tomorrow, we'll see how it goes

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How can you save your current ROM?

hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.
Nandroid backup - which you will certainly be doing before flashing anything new. Won't you?
Thinks - you are rooted aren't you?
diablous said:
hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.
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Search for r6-desire-root.zip, follow first link in google.
If it fails try it on another os (or pc), it will always succeed
ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.
JohnSteveDoe said:
ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.
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..with rom manager it really works great; also the restore procedure works - I tried it.
thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always
Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?
Desire_this! said:
Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?
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Simple answer is no, it can't be done. You need root to backup your rom.
Actually, you don't need root to do a nandroid backup. Just a custom recovery.
LBTaylor1984 said:
thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always
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I am new to this, coming from iphone. I just love all the features and customizations availalbe.
Rooting on my galaxys4 was easy. thanks all
Thanks for this info too. just what i was looking for.
:good:
If you have rooted and installed any decent backup software they can backup the entire rom and all settings.
Then even if you mess up your phone and boot loop it, as long as you can get into recovery you can restore everything.
So it serves multiple purposes, I prefer this method to rom manager and titanium backup.

Now rooting my evo :)

So after having my evo for awhile ive finally decided to go root.
But i do have a couple of questions that i want to clear up.
1st i plan to use unrevokeds one click root method(going the newb way out here)
but my question from there is once i root will i still be able to boot into my stock rom or will i have to flash a custom rom? I want to flash custom roms eventually but i have yet to pick one.
2 From there whats some really good roms to use. ive been looking around but all of them seem to have a lot of bugs that need worked out and im not all about buggy roms lol.
3 Whats a nand unlock?
thats all i can think of for now i appreciate the help
you cant flash custom roms without a nand unlock.
the two levels of rooting
1) basic system root, letting you run root only apps
2) nand, allowing you to flash custom roms and whatnot.
most people start of with fresh or whatever unrevoked gives you.
good luck!
bmtdan said:
So after having my evo for awhile ive finally decided to go root.
But i do have a couple of questions that i want to clear up.
1st i plan to use unrevokeds one click root method(going the newb way out here)
but my question from there is once i root will i still be able to boot into my stock rom or will i have to flash a custom rom? I want to flash custom roms eventually but i have yet to pick one.
2 From there whats some really good roms to use. ive been looking around but all of them seem to have a lot of bugs that need worked out and im not all about buggy roms lol.
3 Whats a nand unlock?
thats all i can think of for now i appreciate the help
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Yes, you can boot into your stock rom. All root does is give you permissions to do stuff to your phone you can't do with root. So, you can still use your stock rom with root permissions.
I have fresh rom 3.2 and I don't know of any bugs that are of any importance. Everything works as far as I'm concerned and battery life is great.
nand unlocked is what allows you to flash custom roms and backup and restore your roms. you have to do this in addition to rooting, it should all be laid out in the tutorial for you.
thanks guys you both were very helpful?
Is there an easy wway to unroot?
bmtdan said:
thanks guys you both were very helpful?
Is there an easy wway to unroot?
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There is a thread in the dev forum titled How to Unroot.
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[Q]STOCK

hm i have s-off eng-off and another rom...so if I want to get back to the stock one? should i enter on cmw on backup and restore and on restore press on the backup I made before rooting?
SSJGohan3 said:
hm i have s-off eng-off and another rom...so if I want to get back to the stock one? should i enter on cmw on backup and restore and on restore press on the backup I made before rooting?
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Depends on method used to get Eng S-Off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920876
Ok ..and for me to be able to get to the last rom?(to update to 2.3.x.x)(OTA) Must I have s-on and eng-on in order to see the updates? or not?
Sorry but I have to ask, it is understandable if you want to revert back to stock if you are claiming for the warranty fix, but why do you want to get the OTA update when the modded rom here is far superior (IMO)
Hm,I think I just want to feel the real rom......... and btw do you know a way for install multiple apk at same time(all of them are games...should i .rar them and then flash or how?)
The quickest way is by backuping and restoring through google. Immediately after flashing, it will automatically download all your apps. Personally, I enjoy installing and tweaking manually the apps one by one.
Another way is of course via Titanium Backup Pro. You can do Batch backup and restore. It's a paid apps by the way.
Installing via CWM... never heard that it's possible
SSJGohan3 said:
Hm,I think I just want to feel the real rom.........
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Then install a rooted version of the "real ROM". It is IDENTICAL except no branding (is that what youwant?) and it's rooted.
SSJGohan3 said:
and btw do you know a way for install multiple apk at same time(all of them are games...should i .rar them and then flash or how?)
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You can't just bundle them in a rar no.
As mentioned above, you will need to use Google backup or an application like Titanium to back them up. Both methods will perform an auto restore. Please note that this means they will DOWNLOAD all the apps again.
off that's too bad I would have been so pleased if there was a way...
You still don't have to do anything, the Google backup / 3rd party backup apps do it all for you. And even if you could, depending on how old the backup was you could still end up having many apps needing an update.
It really isn't a big deal and I can't see how it would be any easier.
I downloaded a pack of games from a torrent site...and i wanted to install them all at once....they are all apk's......and to do it manually takes a while..
I just remember... there's a utility called ROM cleaner. Last time I checked there's an option to add apk into the rom itself (experimental). So once you flash your rom, technically all the apk is there.
Just a caution, I didn't follow the utility thread, there's a good chance that it is not compatible with the new gingerbread.

Basic root-nothing else- and a few questions

Hi,
So there seem to be quite a few tools and methods out there with which you can root your phone, but what if I really only want to root it and nothing else; my only goal is to use apps that require root access.
I've got Android 4.1.1, but I suppose it shouldn't matter that much. Will I be able to update to a newer version with root access though?
Forgot to add:
What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. After that you make a nandroid backup and then install the superuser root script to give root acces in the rom.
Flash back the stock recovery and you are able to receive and install official ota's.
Is this all possible with this tool?
Now I don't want to act dumb or seem inept, but could you or someone else give me a more detailed description, maybe with a link or two?
Yes you can use that tool :thumbup:
Did you see my edit to the first post?
>>What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Can you tell me why I need to flash a custom recovery? Can't I 'just' root my phone as is and then leave it like that- rooted of course?
You can use an app called carbon to make a backup. You need a custom recovery to install the super user script. A stock one is not capable if doing that. And you don't root a phone. Only its software !
With hassoons tool, how do I flash the stock ROM back on it? I can see no option in his thread...
The stock nandroid backup needs to be installed via the custom recovery. Not with hassons tool kit. You can in that case only flash back the stock boot.img from the stock backup.
Hi, I decided I wanted to go through with my plans to root the phone and already run into a problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43066305&posted=1#post43066305
Most recentpost...
EDIT: Selected Power down on the phone because I was getting impatient and paranoid and then disconnected the phone. Everything seems fine so far. I closed the console and the message "Get Token ID.." popped up and then the console reopened, apparently searching for the phone... -_-
Oh well, maybe next time. Right now I want to take a break/try something else.
Can someone tell me why Windows always trys to install new drivers even when they already are installed? Happened when I used the programm- updating drivers blabla...
I'll try again here...
Just a question:
Can I definitely receive official android/sense/hwatever ota updates but still keep the root access?
What i've gathered so far is that I need to use hassoons tool and how to guide,but only the first post.
After that I will have a rooted stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery, right?
Then I should do a nandroid backup WITH CWM (how is this done exactly? hold volume down +power button, then recovery?)
What will be backed up with the nandroid backup? How big will this be roughly and can I/should I put it on PC to free up some space?
Regardless from this backup, I only need the recovery.img, which in my case will be MY personal backed up STOCK recovery.img,is that correct?
How do I flash my stock recovery?
Edit:
Once I have the stock recovery again, will my phone still have root access? Is everything from then on -stock- except for root access?

Question about rooting and installing a custom rom

So I'm going to be following this persons guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJq_Ta8Y9Y&list=WL&index=8 to root (I wanna make sure I don't brick it).
Is there a way to root my phone, use titanium backup and then unlock bootloader and stuff without losing my data?
I was then going to install this custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...-dirty-unicorns-6-0-1-bullhead-03-01-t3326395
Question is, does the kernel auto install or do I need to click the github, download as ZIP and flash it ?
Kind of don't want to brick my phone as things have sort of changed.
Have rooted 3 phones before but now things have changed. The kernels auto installed for me, now I don't know.

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