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60 fps frame rate cap

If I remember correctly the Evo had a frame rate lock. Even if it didn't does any one know if its being looked into as a mod to have it removed? The quadrent scores will probably be greatly effected since almost all the videos stay right at 60fps. Lets uncork this bad boy and let it run free any info on it I would live to hear. Mahalo, Wayne

bluefire808 said:
If I remember correctly the Evo had a frame rate lock. Even if it didn't does any one know if its being looked into as a mod to have it removed? The quadrent scores will probably be greatly effected since almost all the videos stay right at 60fps. Lets uncork this bad boy and let it run free any info on it I would live to hear. Mahalo, Wayne
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I don't think it is locked in the same sense that the Evo4G was actually capped. While my FPS2D scores are typically dead-on at 60 it bursts as high as 65 at times, the EVO4G did no such thing.
God, thanks for reminding me of that...that was so frustrating. Especially HTC's response.

daneurysm said:
I don't think it is locked in the same sense that the Evo4G was actually capped. While my FPS2D scores are typically dead-on at 60 it bursts as high as 65 at times, the EVO4G did no such thing.
God, thanks for reminding me of that...that was so frustrating. Especially HTC's response.
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what made the response so funny was as they were claiming it couldnt be done, it was already done and made them look STUPID(er)!!!

It's more than likely software capped much like the original Epic.

So that means that in theory it can be uncorked by a a dev some how I hope

It was done on the mesmerize/fascinate with the Glitch kernel. Upped the fps cap to 65 from 60. It might be worth investigating...
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phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...

malibu_23 said:
phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...
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A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
Personally I don't know about this frame-rate lock...if we can go faster, by all means...but...60 is pretty damned good, though ~65 solid (with a low stdev) would be phenomenal. Someone always crawls out of the woodwork to point out that the human eye isn't capable blah blah blah much above 24fps anyway....but....when I flashed netarchy's kernel on my NS4G and my FPS went from ~60 to ~65 I noticed it right away and it was amazing....so, I won't say so much that it is capped as much as it could be tweaked to go higher. 60fps really is pretty damned good.

daneurysm said:
A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
Personally I don't know about this frame-rate lock...if we can go faster, by all means...but...60 is pretty damned good, though ~65 solid (with a low stdev) would be phenomenal. Someone always crawls out of the woodwork to point out that the human eye isn't capable blah blah blah much above 24fps anyway....but....when I flashed netarchy's kernel on my NS4G and my FPS went from ~60 to ~65 I noticed it right away and it was amazing....so, I won't say so much that it is capped as much as it could be tweaked to go higher. 60fps really is pretty damned good.
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In the history of cell phones no phone has ever been perfect. There are always have been and always will be something to complain about with each and every new phone that comes out. They are made by humans and used by humans. That means some problems may be build / design / software / or user error.
That being said this the GSII is the number one phone in the world as of right now.
Samsung Galaxy S II

stangdriverdoug said:
In the history of cell phones no phone has ever been perfect. There are always have been and always will be something to complain about with each and every new phone that comes out. They are made by humans and used by humans. That means some problems may be build / design / software / or user error.
That being said this the GSII is the number one phone in the world as of right now.
Samsung Galaxy S II
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Amen!
Nothing is and will ever be perfect. That's just the way it is. This happens with cars , houses, other electronics and software and so on...There is always something what "could have been better" or different. Especially when they first come out.
I understand it can be frustrating, however we sometimes need to understand that the complexity of devices nowadays inevitably lead to some flaws. Hopefully they will fix this soon.
As far as the framerate cap goes...I hope no dev is going to take time to change this especially when we have other more important things they could invest their time in.
60fps is BUTTERY SMOOTH and the GS2 does a very good job of hitting that mark most of the time in most apps and games as opposed to 99% of the devices out there that can't. Why waste time on lifting it? So you can score higher Quadrant scores? Completely pointless!

We need apps that utilize the dual cores and gpu, efficiently.
I don't think we are capped because I have seen a few bursts of 70 in quadrant. I think we need to utilize the hardware we have fully, then worry about what may or may not be limited.

malibu_23 said:
phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...
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The door is over here troll -> http://****off.com

When you superhuman eye can see more than 60fps, lemme know. FYI, movies in the theater play at 24.

I just think it would be nice to have the cap removed ... we are all here to tweak our phones and mod them which is really fun to do! Just something fun that I would like to see happen. Perdormance is amazing and butter already and this is the best phone out right now. I don't actually have a single complaint about it! Just like modding and tweaking

bondosho said:
When you superhuman eye can see more than 60fps, lemme know. FYI, movies in the theater play at 24.
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you ever look at and old school crt monitor at 60Hz?
i do agree with you that on such a small screen, more that 60fps is more for epeen benches than actual performance.

madsquabbles said:
you ever look at and old school crt monitor at 60Hz?
i do agree with you that on such a small screen, more that 60fps is more for epeen benches than actual performance.
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Bwhahahahaha your name made me lol!
Tbh I had a glimpse of "training day" run through my head when I seen your screen name
(carry on with the useless benchmark improvements)
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The door is over here troll -> http://****off.com
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am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
daneurysm said:
A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
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Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.

malibu_23 said:
am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.
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Excellent point... The only bug that's serious to me is the random loss of service. That's potentially life-threatening. All the other bugs are just annoyances.

malibu_23 said:
am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.
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No, I'm not mad, and no you're not right:
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
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heat issues = It's not really an issue at all. It gets barely hot, unless you're device is malfunctioned in which case you should return it
iffy battery = where the hell did you read this? If you're talking about the OS consumption at 50%+ then thats a lemon and needs to be returned. hence why only a very small percentage of people are having this problem
crummy radio/wifi = it's not on par with photon for example, but it's good enough, and not a deal breaker at all. I get 2-3 bars of 4g everywhere I go. As for as wifi I have no use for because like I said, i get 4g everywhere so I have no need for wifi.
apps/games = again, most likely a lemon, and needs to be returned
screen on delay = caused by sd card, and even though its annoying at times, its still not a deal breaker
fps lock = pretty sure it's not an fps lock. afaik most if not all android phones are stuck at 60fps. Also i'm pretty sure your og evo was locked at 30fps and you still bought it.
most of the things you described are bugs, and need to be returned to sprint. Phones are mass assembled and some of them will have these bugs, thats why you have a 14 day window to return the phone if you experience any problems.

comeatmebro said:
No, I'm not mad, and no you're not right:
heat issues = It's not really an issue at all. It gets barely hot, unless you're device is malfunctioned in which case you should return it
iffy battery = where the hell did you read this? If you're talking about the OS consumption at 50%+ then thats a lemon and needs to be returned. hence why only a very small percentage of people are having this problem
crummy radio/wifi = it's not on par with photon for example, but it's good enough, and not a deal breaker at all. I get 2-3 bars of 4g everywhere I go. As for as wifi I have no use for because like I said, i get 4g everywhere so I have no need for wifi.
apps/games = again, most likely a lemon, and needs to be returned
screen on delay = caused by sd card, and even though its annoying at times, its still not a deal breaker
fps lock = pretty sure it's not an fps lock. afaik most if not all android phones are stuck at 60fps. Also i'm pretty sure your og evo was locked at 30fps and you still bought it.
most of the things you described are bugs, and need to be returned to sprint. Phones are mass assembled and some of them will have these bugs, thats why you have a 14 day window to return the phone if you experience any problems.
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This is exactly what I would've said, except the game/apps closing out thing is a legit problem (just not a big one). my gameboid emulator drops out randomly, but my snesoid emulator works just fine. I have a feeling that's a compatibility issue, but i'm also known for blowing smoke up people's asses
malibu, you need to understand that we on xda represent a minority of phone owners. Therefore, if it's a "hot topic" here, I can guarantee you that more than 50% of the owners of this phone have no freaking idea what you're talking about. Therefore, you cannot call any of these issues "hot issues" except LOS because LOS is like puberty...it'll eventually happen to everyone unless they're freaks.
If you don't wanna upgrade to this phone, that's fine, but please go bother the people in the forum of the phone you do plan on buying. Thanks!
As for this 60 fps lock....hmmmm
I don't think so

Getting REALLY bad battery life; looking for ideas.

Evo 4G bad.
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I haven't ever had FANTASTIC battery life like I'm seeing from some folks around here... when I first started on Starburst (I didn't keep stock for more than about four hours), I was at around 70% at the same time. I'm currently on Calkulin's 2.0.0; about to revert to Starburst and see if it's ROM-related, now that I've given Calkulin's about a week with a calibration to no effect.
I'm currently undervolted by -75 on all steps, and this seems to have made it WORSE if anything, which I didn't think was possible for undervolting to do. I've been monitoring things fairly closely with Watchdog, and nothing jumps out at me. The phone signal in the pic doesn't look good, but I've been in all the same places as I was when I was getting much better life.
What interests me is that I'm seeing absolutely no usage-based change in battery life. Until that sudden dip you see up there, it was going down at the exact same rate whether I was using it or it was sitting on my desk doing absolutely nothing.
That dip started after I played Fieldrunners HD for about ten minutes during a break at work. After I stopped playing, battery life went into a continuous plummet.
I use Tasker (extensively) to keep things in check; generally speaking, nothing is active unless it needs to be, except for Wi-Fi which is always active as it's my primary method of detecting my locations.
Am I missing something simple-stupid here? If not, anyone got any ideas, assuming going back to Starburst doesn't magically fix it?

Not sure if this will help, but improved my battery.
(1) go to your email setting for each account and change sync update, I believe by default it's set up to check every 15 minutes. With 10 email accounts, it took a toll on my my battery. I changed all my accounts to 4 hours.
(2) best way to kill a task is by holding down home button, going to task manager and kill from there. Market task killers were making things worse for me.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the thoughts! Sadly, neither of those really apply in my case. I stick with with the default Gmail app, which is all push, and I don't use task killers at all.

I'm running the stock rom with a custom kernel. I did notice that as soon as I went from stock to a different kernel I started to lose battery life. Maybe its something Samsung did? I am still a novice with Roms and what not, but nothing like this happened on my original Epic or my Hero. Maybe the yellow triangle isn't the only thing Samsung put in there.

Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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JohnCorleone said:
Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.

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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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Well, the good thing is that as of today, its possible to return back to bone stock and start again so you can mess with a few setups and see what works best for you. I have found that this is the first phone that uses the frequencies well. I haven't undervolted at all yet and I have had great battery life. I did the standard delete Sprint bloat, Social Hub and associated apps, Maps, etc. Also, get BetterBatteryStats. It may give you some insight into what's happening.
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How you return to bone stock? By applying the update?

Odin this
Przekret posted what appears to be a full EG30 RAR archive
Przekret - EG30 full - [post] [direct dl]
- RAR Pass: sampro.pl
- extract HOME.tar from rar file and flash in ODIN using PDA button
- does NOT include data.img so your userdata is preserved
- qbking77 installation video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381494
Then update to EK02

Got very slightly better today after flashing the EK02 kernel. 23% at the same time instead of 18%... anything could account for that 5%, though, so I don't really think EK02 had any effect on this. Zedomax kernel with stock voltages is next.

CPU boots pro
(From the market & assuming your rooted)
Settings
~Screen off profile max800 min200
~GPU to Conservative max1000 min800
~Nitrous Widget GPU to on demand max1400 min1000
What this should do is downclock your device when on standby by alot. Second for phone calls and daily stuff a clock of 1k will be silky smooth and be a small downclock. Third when you set up the nitrous widget and activate it you will overclock to 1.4k which is stoopid fast my quad score is at 1.4k I get 4500 scores at 1.6k oc but forget batt when I'm using the nitrous. I like too personally keep my phone at a clock of 800 for daily phone calls and web surfing... if I play a graphic intense game ill oc it with nitrous and not worry about burning up my phone because if I set the phone down it downclocks as soon as it stands by and will pick right back up when I'm ready.
Hope it helps here's pics.
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Batt life on my day off doing nothing but trolling forums at 800 clock.... I was on my phone like six hours straight while waiting for jury duty selection to be done.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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If you're talking about the page I think you are, it'll have to wait until at least morning. I just did a full charge.
To wit... I spent 43 minutes on a phone call, and lost almost the same as what I normally lose in that same time period. 6% for a 43 minute call; I'm averaging 5%/hr loss doing NOTHING.
@Dchibro, assuming that's true, what would it mean for me? Does it give me a solution?

So, doing a bit of my own detective work... I've had Watchdog installed for about three days, with aggressive monitoring. I was almost immediately getting a bunch of alerts for two processes:
I initially whitelisted them through Watchdog, dismissing them as system processes that unavoidably needed to run. However, the comment from Dchibro got me thinking and sent me back to those, and I started Googling around. Here's what I've turned up so far:
http://goo.gl/Hsvej (HUGE thread on the issue in SGS2 forums. Haven't had a chance to go through all this yet.)
http://goo.gl/kUcqx (SGS2 forums.)
http://goo.gl/mlWW4 (Nook Color forums.)
http://goo.gl/mNiId (My Google search results.)
Gonna try some of the suggestions on here and see what I turn up. For now, I'm returning to stock voltages, implementing a bunch of those changes and keeping everything else as it is now to see where I end up. Phone will be charged to 100% before bed tonight, and I'll post sometime tomorrow with my findings.
Wish me luck!

So, in stead of waking up to 50% this morning, I woke up to 86%! Which is the same I went to bed at. Six hours of sleep, not a single percent lost. If nothing else, I learned from all this that I can reboot the phone when this bug hits me and and get away from it.

As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020

Im one week into my new sgs2 running full stock. What should normal battery use be? I feel my battery drains too fast. Here is my usage summary since full charge couple hours ago.
I charged too 100%, shutdown, then charged to 100%, powered up and used the phone very sparingly since. Battery is at 91%
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Dchibro said:
As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
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That bug gave me nightmares on my OG Epic.
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Definitely seeing a bit of an improvement, here.
Watchdog alerted me to the suspend and event/0 stuff again about an hour ago, but I quickly rebooted and nothing seems to have come of it. I'm going to try to make a Tasker profile to do this automatically, kinda like Viper's LoS script.
All in all, I'm considering this a mostly satisfactory alternative to draining 80% of my battery with almost no use in eight hours.

Battery Life - screen on time & battery conditioning

Firstly let me say I'm a long time lurker of XDA, I don't often post but rather keep quiet in the shadows. I've owned many handsets (Including the Inc. and TB, meaning I know bad battery life) and this has always been the site I go to for hacking and general information.
I don't expect definite, for-sure answers. I'm just seeking some advice on this, I absolutely love this phone and a Nexus on Verizon has always been my dream.
Secondly, I'm not posting here asking why my screen uses over 50% of the depletion on my charges, it is supposed to, I know that. I see many threads asking about that, which is why I waited to post not wanting to ask what has been already. But I am asking about my case specifically, and want input.
The main thing here is the amount of screen on time I am able to get.
I have had my GNex since Saturday afternoon, when I bought it the battery was dead and I fully charged it, the first day I used it mostly while plugged into AC, using 4G to install my apps. Since then (the last two days) I have tried depleting the charge almost entirely before charging, shying away from charging mid-depletion. I have tried using CDMA mostly (my area has just marginally good 4G), hoping I could stop some of the bleeding, but to no avail. I should also say I yesterday for the first time threw a custom ROM/Kernel on and that seemed to help marginally, though in truth I don't see that really changing the screen power consumption.
Please take a good look at both screenshots, as said I care nothing about the %.
(I am aware there is still 13% remaining on my charge, but even so this seems just crazy)
In the first screenshot at the bottom it's apparent this isn't a huge amount of screen on time.
I would kill to get 4 hours of screen on time with this thing, heck even in the area of 3, but it doesn't seem to be in the foreseeable future as it looks now. I can get out 2 at most to this point, and that is on almost entirely 3G/WiFi with light/moderate data usage.
I really need to ask. Do I just need patience to let this battery break in? I hear some say this can be a week-long thing, but shouldn't I see some increase by now?
If not, do I seek out a replacement battery or could this be an actual defect of the AMOLED drawing more than it should?
Thanks for your help!
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There were quite a lot of awake time during screen off if I look your stat.
Thats your problem.
Too much sync?
Mine can get up to 3 hours and 45 minutes screen on time, span into 2 days stand by, gsm version.

Good point, looking into playing with sync in settings and JD.
But while that accounts for the drop during the 10hr overnight period (20% of battery/83% of time), I still feel the draw during screen on (80% of battery/17% of time) is just insane, even given the AMOLED.
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Maybe its a rogue app running in the background making the battery drain real fast. Try wiping and running the phone normally without restoring your apps and see if that will improve. I'm having the same problem as you but with the GSM version. I'm looking through my apps though.
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Here's my result
xl DIGITAL lx said:
Maybe its a rogue app running in the background making the battery drain real fast. Try wiping and running the phone normally without restoring your apps and see if that will improve. I'm having the same problem as you but with the GSM version. I'm looking through my apps though.
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Here are some of the usual suspects:
- Facebook for Android app (uninstall it and replace it with Friendcaster and change the frequency of update t less often will do the trick)
- Accuweather widget or any other weather widgets
- Whatsapp
- Viber
- Latitude (google maps) - Login to Latitude and then ensure you select the option where it does not report your location and then sign out of Latitude.

Honestly, I have the GSM version and I've rarely gotten over 3 hours screen time. It's the screen. The battery life sucks, so you'll have to just ABC (always be charging), at the desk/sofa/car.
What I really want to ask is how you got the battery percentage inside the battery icon?!

This is also my exact problem. I can get great life if I don't touch the phone. Every time I use it for a few seconds, that's 2-3% gone. Browse the internet for 15 mins? Forget it, that's 10% gone at least.
I guess it's just the price to pay for such a gorgeous screen.

Black Mirror said:
Honestly, I have the GSM version and I've rarely gotten over 3 hours screen time. It's the screen. The battery life sucks, so you'll have to just ABC (always be charging), at the desk/sofa/car.
What I really want to ask is how you got the battery percentage inside the battery icon?!
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The custom ROM I'm running had it as the default icon: AXI0M 2.3.
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This is also my exact problem. I can get great life if I don't touch the phone. Every time I use it for a few seconds, that's 2-3% gone. Browse the internet for 15 mins? Forget it, that's 10% gone at least.
I guess it's just the price to pay for such a gorgeous screen.
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pcphobic said:
Here's my result
Here are some of the usual suspects:
- Facebook for Android app (uninstall it and replace it with Friendcaster and change the frequency of update t less often will do the trick)
- Accuweather widget or any other weather widgets
- Whatsapp
- Viber
- Latitude (google maps) - Login to Latitude and then ensure you select the option where it does not report your location and then sign out of Latitude.
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What is your total screen on time during those charges?
The only app in that list I really have to check is latitude. Doing so now.

I think op should stop playing wind up knight in his sleep. Case closed. Just kidding. But seriously, probably got something using up cpu cycles when using phone and not using it. If i dont play any games, i easily get 4 hours screen time, and got 5.25 over the weekend.
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@rbiter said:
I think op should stop playing wind up knight in his sleep. Case closed. Just kidding. But seriously, probably got something using up cpu cycles when using phone and not using it. If i dont play any games, i easily get 4 hours screen time, and got 5.25 over the weekend.
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When I flashed this ROM I purposely left games out when setting it back up, the only one is Drop7 which I purposely make sure gets killed when I'm done. All apps which sync I have either at minimal amounts or off entirely.

Are you in north america? Try ugkk7 radio maybe? I am in the usa and xxkk6 was ok, but since i flashed ugkk7 reception is excellent. Oh wait. Youre cdma version. I dont know if the same applies. I do know radios designated UGxx# are north american.
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you could install CPU SPY to see if your device is going in deepsleep, I had a problem that one app was using most of the time 350mhz and was using my battery very fast.
after that i found the app with battery monitor and disabled the app to see if the problem was solved, and that was the case, and i have now a battery life from more then a day instead of 5 hours.

I can get 3.5 hours of screen on time spread over ~36 hours or so on the GSM version.. if LTE is on I would assume around two hours of screen on time was normal for a Verizon version just because of how LTE is but it did look like your CPU was awake a lot as well so also it could be a rogue app, not necessarily a game.
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check here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243

joshnichols189 said:
I can get 3.5 hours of screen on time spread over ~36 hours or so on the GSM version.. if LTE is on I would assume around two hours of screen on time was normal for a Verizon version just because of how LTE is but it did look like your CPU was awake a lot as well so also it could be a rogue app, not necessarily a game.
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Will give that a try. Like mentioned though almost none of that time was 4G enabled. (Maybe 10mins of that first green section.) The slope is just as steep.
In truth this was a fairly data-light charge.
Could it be the rogue app would actually sap battery only when the screen is on? Even though there is wake time where there shouldn't, that isn't the main area of drain.
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Save Your battery

Well folks, I took time to study our G2 battery to really see what is killing it. After testing it on different roms i have come out with something that can save your battery for a while before you think of replacing it.
On a general scope these are the main factors that really drain your battery:
1.3G data connection
2.Screen brightness
3.Rom type(mostly sense roms)
On 3g, if the user has a wireless network nearby i suggest you connect to that for your browsing and all that, there is no need using hspa when you have a WI-fi network working great, 3g networks drains the battery faster than you think i tried it and i saw that the WI-fi use was very slow in draining the battery up to the point i switch to 3g. IF your thing is voice calls i still don't see how good and different 3g is from 2g "it's not like you are recording an album over the phone to need such voice clarity" remember a good battery life affects your phones performance in a great way. these photos tell the whole story..
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i used the wi-fi for about 12 hours and when i switched to 3g it drained in 2 hours
For screen brightness you will notice that every time you check battery usage your screen always has the biggest share of the consumption. You have to reduce your screen brightness to 30% or lower or put it on auto-brightness that's about all you can do about it.
Also your rom and the kernel it comes with are a huge factor in battery consumption. On a general scale i have noticed that sense roms are the big killers of all just see
in 51 mins of no use at all just screen off the battery drops to 81% i have never had above 9 hours of use with any sense rom
Other things like gps also drain your battery, so if you are not on "MAPS" just switch it off to save your battery. Also keeping your cpu clock speed at high points drain the battery a lot try to use apps like setcpu to control the clock speed and set profile like screen off to keep your cpu down when you are not using it, and use cpu governors like smatass, ondemand, conservative etc
Also the trick of draining your battery completely and then recharging it in intervals of 3 months or more help enhance battery life,
do not leave lots of apps running in the back ground they also drain you battery alot :good:
Any body who knows something that can help pls add cos there are a lot of guys who still don't know these stuff....
and a lot of guys like me who still want to enjoy their G2 for a looooong time....so big boys...yes it's needed......

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About the sense roms, even though i agree it consumes more battery than AOSP, they are not as bad as u say (at least not all of them). I use a sense 3.5 rom and with regular use i get about a day and a half before it hits 20% (80% consumed) (This is on 2g, with wifi on... when with data on, i still get at least 22 hours). I know it comes down to settings and usage, but just saying, its possible to get a lot of battery endurance with sense.
If anyone is interested in more detalied information on my settings and usage, feel free to ask me (through pm if possible)
Nice review though, thanks for sharing!
Coldsun15

strip419 said:
Also your rom and the kernel it comes with are a huge factor in battery consumption. On a general scale i have noticed that sense roms are the big killers of all just see
in 51 mins of no use at all just screen off the battery drops to 81% i have never had above 9 hours of use with any sense rom
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This is impossible if you havent got a problem with the rom. I have been using all kinds of roms with my Desire Z. The battery life is not that much different on sense and aosp roms.
I am using GenY Beta5 right now for example. On standby mode (only gps is disabled) it can go more than 2 days! A stock optimized 2.1 Sense rom can go even more than that.
For battery life problems I suggest using an app like Better Battery Stats and see what is causing your phone to stay awake. It is easy to see what eats your battery.
Other than that as you said, whatever rom you use Screen will eat your battery the most. Overclocking will obviously eat more battery too. Using 3G instead of 2G will use more battery. COnstant Wi-fi activity and gps are battery killers too as you may guess.
The rest is how the user uses his/her phone.

strip419 said:
Well folks, I took time to study our G2 battery to really see what is killing it. After testing it on different roms i have come out with something that can save your battery for a while before you think of replacing it.
On a general scope these are the main factors that really drain your battery:
1.3G data connection
2.Screen brightness
3.Rom type(mostly sense roms)
On 3g, if the user has a wireless network nearby i suggest you connect to that for your browsing and all that, there is no need using hspa when you have a WI-fi network working great, 3g networks drains the battery faster than you think i tried it and i saw that the WI-fi use was very slow in draining the battery up to the point i switch to 3g. IF your thing is voice calls i still don't see how good and different 3g is from 2g "it's not like you are recording an album over the phone to need such voice clarity" remember a good battery life affects your phones performance in a great way. these photos tell the whole story..
i used the wi-fi for about 12 hours and when i switched to 3g it drained in 2 hours
For screen brightness you will notice that every time you check battery usage your screen always has the biggest share of the consumption. You have to reduce your screen brightness to 30% or lower or put it on auto-brightness that's about all you can do about it.
Also your rom and the kernel it comes with are a huge factor in battery consumption. On a general scale i have noticed that sense roms are the big killers of all just see
in 51 mins of no use at all just screen off the battery drops to 81% i have never had above 9 hours of use with any sense rom
Other things like gps also drain your battery, so if you are not on "MAPS" just switch it off to save your battery. Also keeping your cpu clock speed at high points drain the battery a lot try to use apps like setcpu to control the clock speed and set profile like screen off to keep your cpu down when you are not using it, and use cpu governors like smatass, ondemand, conservative etc
Also the trick of draining your battery completely and then recharging it in intervals of 3 months or more help enhance battery life,
do not leave lots of apps running in the back ground they also drain you battery alot :good:
Any body who knows something that can help pls add cos there are a lot of guys who still don't know these stuff....
and a lot of guys like me who still want to enjoy their G2 for a looooong time....so big boys...yes it's needed......
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All you are saying are basic stuff everyone knows about power consumption, and all that you have been testing are YOUR results, what you are saying now are absolutely no facts, and some are wrong. You're saying sense takes more juice? Well since IceCreamSandwich it doesn't really matter. Are you sure your battery is properly calibrated?
After installing a rom you shouldn't put the phone on a charger, but just use/leave it till the battery has 10% left. then charge till its full. By prefer you should do it another time and then it should be calibrated.
Also you forgot to add the radio. The radio is also important, if you got a proper radio for your provider/rom, you can easily get more power out of your phone. If you have the wrong one, drains can be high. The extremest example I can take is my old HD2. Which had a radio not compatible with the version of android and the battery drained from 100 - 10 in 3 hours.
Now look at my stats of my DesireZ, running Gen.Y RC1(Which seems to be using more battery then the B5). I attached a screenshot. The battery is totally stock and not an extended one. I used it yesterday at home when I was busy with my car(whatsapp, mail, google), at the evening I played some games. Before I went to bed my battery stats was 60%, when I got out of bed this morning it was 59%.
Also I think the topic should be in "general" since its talking about everything, and I can't see how this is rom development.

Thanks for adding up guys,but I am sure your batteries are quite fresh that's why you have very good batteries,people like me with aging ones who still want to use it for a while. I had to wipe my battery stats a few times to calibrate it. And if your read things very well this was meant for guys who really don't know the does and donts about battery usage yes it's basic but people still ask these questions in dev sections. I did not add radio because that thing does not work well for everyone and it's still an easy way to brick your phone most of these radios were made with USA service providers in mind ,people have complained about having serious issues with battery and connectivity when they Change their radio and if any one is even reading this then I don't think that person even knows what the radio is so why not do the basics than brick your phone in an attempt to go high .....to the big boys who know all.... you have to know that there are still guys out there without rooted phones facing these problems so radio is the last option......
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strip419 said:
Thanks for adding up guys,but I am sure your batteries are quite fresh that's why you have very good batteries,people like me with aging ones who still want to use it for a while. I had to wipe my battery stats a few times to calibrate it. And if your read things very well this was meant for guys who really don't know the does and donts about battery usage yes it's basic but people still ask these questions in dev sections. I did not add radio because that thing does not work well for everyone and it's still an easy way to brick your phone most of these radios were made with USA service providers in mind ,people have complained about having serious issues with battery and connectivity when they Change their radio and if any one is even reading this then I don't think that person even knows what the radio is so why not do the basics than brick your phone in an attempt to go high .....to the big boys who know all.... you have to know that there are still guys out there without rooted phones facing these problems so radio is the last option......
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If their phone is not rooted, how can they have a custom rom then lol. I think if you want to use a custom rom on your phone you should read everything and not blindly start everything. Also flashing a radio has risks, but not really something to worry about if you do it right. Its quite easy and as long as you stay on the right path you are fine. If you want to make a proper thread about battery consumption you should include the radio thing. And also post it in a place where it belongs. You are right that newbies don't know everything, but if we should do everything for them, you get even more newbie questions. They need to put some effort in it like we do.

also you have not added the tricks like changing the advanced wifi to always wifi when screen off....

Phone getting slow

I have had my OP3 for 2 years. I have noticed the battery life is much shorter, overall burn-in on the screen (screen is getting dim even on max brightness), and the overall performance is much slower than it was even a year ago. Am I the only one experiencing this? Is OnePlus doing similar to Apple where the CPU is throttling as the battery degrades?
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Using latest beta build, but the same issues persist regardless of using stock, beta, or custom roms. I am also rooted, but notice the slow speeds even with a fresh ROM reinstall with everything stock.

No OnePlus can't do what Apple did, we would notice in a second. You should try new kernels or go with stock if you aren't using stock already. Try different ROMs if you want to confirm your hardware condition. Other than that the decreasing speed is normal, the device is getting older and it is getting tired.

I've tried multiple different roms and kernels. The issue is close to the same across all ROMs. Just now opened a twitter notification and it took several seconds to open rather than instantly like you'd expect.
Was just wondering if it is worth a try with one of the $25 batteries on Amazon. Will likely just start looking to upgrade.

Highly doubt you have burn-in. Almost doesn't happen these days anymore unless you abuse your phone. Regarding that your phone is slow. Did you try a full reset yet? Have you done any tweaks or something? My phone is hitting the 2 year mark with only a new battery and camera (common focus problem). And it is still like it was at day 1.

It definitely has image burn in. If I put a full screen white image on the phone, it is all off-white except the middle part of the notification bar, I can even see burn in for the static icons like wifi, battery, LTE, etc...
I have done a full reset just a month ago, but didn't help. Even when completely stock including recovery then tried with a few different kernels. still very slow compared to new.
You did say you have a new battery, considering my battery life is crap right now, I may just give that a try. OEM parts are pretty cheap on witrigs.

I would definitely recommend using bluspark kernel on oxygen os. If you enable the fastlane feature and set both of the cores to 35 it will be blazing fast and no lag what so ever. Try that and let us know how your phone reacts.

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Highly doubt you have burn-in. Almost doesn't happen these days anymore unless you abuse your phone. Regarding that your phone is slow. Did you try a full reset yet? Have you done any tweaks or something? My phone is hitting the 2 year mark with only a new battery and camera (common focus problem). And it is still like it was at day 1.
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mrmcshagbag said:
I would definitely recommend using bluspark kernel on oxygen os. If you enable the fastlane feature and set both of the cores to 35 it will be blazing fast and no lag what so ever. Try that and let us know how your phone reacts.
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I reset and reflashed OOS and installed bluspark. Also limited the apps I installed too. It seems to be a bit faster. Will report back if I get any slowing.

Still no issues. I was thinking and realized my issue. I had two separate profiles on my phone, a home profile and work profile. I assumed that the inactive profile automatically shutdown whenever switching like on a PC when you sign out of one account and into another. I am guessing this isn't the case with android. The inactive profile continued to run in the background causing my slowdown and battery drain issues.
Moving forward, multirom is probably the way to go for me if I decide to go back to having separate work and home work spaces.

daggorlad said:
It definitely has image burn in. If I put a full screen white image on the phone, it is all off-white except the middle part of the notification bar, I can even see burn in for the static icons like wifi, battery, LTE, etc... .
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I have the same . In addition, I have a burn in screen at the bottom (strip about 1 cm ) . I've noticed keyboard image burn in as well . Never amoled again .

daggorlad said:
Still no issues. I was thinking and realized my issue. I had two separate profiles on my phone, a home profile and work profile. I assumed that the inactive profile automatically shutdown whenever switching like on a PC when you sign out of one account and into another. I am guessing this isn't the case with android. The inactive profile continued to run in the background causing my slowdown and battery drain issues.
Moving forward, multirom is probably the way to go for me if I decide to go back to having separate work and home work spaces.
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Did you get fastlane enabled on both cpu clustors and set to 35?

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Did you get fastlane enabled on both cpu clustors and set to 35?
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I didn't see a fastlane using Kernel Auditor. It has been so long since I have adjusted kernel level settings, I don't really remember a lot of it.
Edit: I just did some more searching and found the settings. I enabled and set to 35 on big and little governers. Thanks for the advice.

daggorlad said:
I didn't see a fastlane using Kernel Auditor. It has been so long since I have adjusted kernel level settings, I don't really remember a lot of it.
Edit: I just did some more searching and found the settings. I enabled and set to 35 on big and little governers. Thanks for the advice.
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No problem let me know how your phones running with that enabled ?

daggorlad said:
I reset and reflashed OOS and installed bluspark. Also limited the apps I installed too. It seems to be a bit faster. Will report back if I get any slowing.
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Do you life in a area with alot of sun? Still don't have burn in, sad to see that you do tho.

Also keep in mind that once android gets above 50% storage performance starts to degrade.

I have same issues. My op3 overheating and lagging alot while playing pubg. Any solution?

Noob02 said:
I have same issues. My op3 overheating and lagging alot while playing pubg. Any solution?
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There really is nothing you will be able to do about that. Those kind of games are really just pushing mobile hardware in directions that it just wasnt designed to go. Until we get a real cooling system (20 years or so before they shrink the liquid cooling small enough maybe) Gaming like that will always cause the device to heat up alot and lag. Its the nature of the beast.

zelendel said:
There really is nothing you will be able to do about that. Those kind of games are really just pushing mobile hardware in directions that it just wasnt designed to go. Until we get a real cooling system (20 years or so before they shrink the liquid cooling small enough maybe) Gaming like that will always cause the device to heat up alot and lag. Its the nature of the beast.
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So buying new phone is the best solution? I can't effort new phone now. So is there any kernel configuration or tweaks?

Noob02 said:
So buying new phone is the best solution? I can't effort new phone now. So is there any kernel configuration or tweaks?
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No, Not even a new phone will really help. Besides the hardware in the 3 and 3t will still be able to handle anything Google tosses at it for a few more years yet. You hear it all over the place on every device. No device has a proper cooling setup for gaming of that nature. Even the S9 with Fortnite is getting hot after playing for a while.
This is a side effect of trying to game on something that was not made to game like that. Ill be honest. If you want to game like that save it for the PC until the hardware can support it. Other wise you will just have to deal with the heat and the lag.

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No, Not even a new phone will really help. Besides the hardware in the 3 and 3t will still be able to handle anything Google tosses at it for a few more years yet. You hear it all over the place on every device. No device has a proper cooling setup for gaming of that nature. Even the S9 with Fortnite is getting hot after playing for a while.
This is a side effect of trying to game on something that was not made to game like that. Ill be honest. If you want to game like that save it for the PC until the hardware can support it. Other wise you will just have to deal with the heat and the lag.
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I see. Thanks bro