If I remember correctly the Evo had a frame rate lock. Even if it didn't does any one know if its being looked into as a mod to have it removed? The quadrent scores will probably be greatly effected since almost all the videos stay right at 60fps. Lets uncork this bad boy and let it run free any info on it I would live to hear. Mahalo, Wayne
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If I remember correctly the Evo had a frame rate lock. Even if it didn't does any one know if its being looked into as a mod to have it removed? The quadrent scores will probably be greatly effected since almost all the videos stay right at 60fps. Lets uncork this bad boy and let it run free any info on it I would live to hear. Mahalo, Wayne
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I don't think it is locked in the same sense that the Evo4G was actually capped. While my FPS2D scores are typically dead-on at 60 it bursts as high as 65 at times, the EVO4G did no such thing.
God, thanks for reminding me of that...that was so frustrating. Especially HTC's response.
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I don't think it is locked in the same sense that the Evo4G was actually capped. While my FPS2D scores are typically dead-on at 60 it bursts as high as 65 at times, the EVO4G did no such thing.
God, thanks for reminding me of that...that was so frustrating. Especially HTC's response.
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what made the response so funny was as they were claiming it couldnt be done, it was already done and made them look STUPID(er)!!!
It's more than likely software capped much like the original Epic.
So that means that in theory it can be uncorked by a a dev some how I hope
It was done on the mesmerize/fascinate with the Glitch kernel. Upped the fps cap to 65 from 60. It might be worth investigating...
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phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...
malibu_23 said:
phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...
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A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
Personally I don't know about this frame-rate lock...if we can go faster, by all means...but...60 is pretty damned good, though ~65 solid (with a low stdev) would be phenomenal. Someone always crawls out of the woodwork to point out that the human eye isn't capable blah blah blah much above 24fps anyway....but....when I flashed netarchy's kernel on my NS4G and my FPS went from ~60 to ~65 I noticed it right away and it was amazing....so, I won't say so much that it is capped as much as it could be tweaked to go higher. 60fps really is pretty damned good.
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A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
Personally I don't know about this frame-rate lock...if we can go faster, by all means...but...60 is pretty damned good, though ~65 solid (with a low stdev) would be phenomenal. Someone always crawls out of the woodwork to point out that the human eye isn't capable blah blah blah much above 24fps anyway....but....when I flashed netarchy's kernel on my NS4G and my FPS went from ~60 to ~65 I noticed it right away and it was amazing....so, I won't say so much that it is capped as much as it could be tweaked to go higher. 60fps really is pretty damned good.
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In the history of cell phones no phone has ever been perfect. There are always have been and always will be something to complain about with each and every new phone that comes out. They are made by humans and used by humans. That means some problems may be build / design / software / or user error.
That being said this the GSII is the number one phone in the world as of right now.
Samsung Galaxy S II
stangdriverdoug said:
In the history of cell phones no phone has ever been perfect. There are always have been and always will be something to complain about with each and every new phone that comes out. They are made by humans and used by humans. That means some problems may be build / design / software / or user error.
That being said this the GSII is the number one phone in the world as of right now.
Samsung Galaxy S II
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Amen!
Nothing is and will ever be perfect. That's just the way it is. This happens with cars , houses, other electronics and software and so on...There is always something what "could have been better" or different. Especially when they first come out.
I understand it can be frustrating, however we sometimes need to understand that the complexity of devices nowadays inevitably lead to some flaws. Hopefully they will fix this soon.
As far as the framerate cap goes...I hope no dev is going to take time to change this especially when we have other more important things they could invest their time in.
60fps is BUTTERY SMOOTH and the GS2 does a very good job of hitting that mark most of the time in most apps and games as opposed to 99% of the devices out there that can't. Why waste time on lifting it? So you can score higher Quadrant scores? Completely pointless!
We need apps that utilize the dual cores and gpu, efficiently.
I don't think we are capped because I have seen a few bursts of 70 in quadrant. I think we need to utilize the hardware we have fully, then worry about what may or may not be limited.
malibu_23 said:
phones looking better and better.
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
dayum, might wait a lil longer before i upgrade...
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The door is over here troll -> http://****off.com
When you superhuman eye can see more than 60fps, lemme know. FYI, movies in the theater play at 24.
I just think it would be nice to have the cap removed ... we are all here to tweak our phones and mod them which is really fun to do! Just something fun that I would like to see happen. Perdormance is amazing and butter already and this is the best phone out right now. I don't actually have a single complaint about it! Just like modding and tweaking
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When you superhuman eye can see more than 60fps, lemme know. FYI, movies in the theater play at 24.
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you ever look at and old school crt monitor at 60Hz?
i do agree with you that on such a small screen, more that 60fps is more for epeen benches than actual performance.
madsquabbles said:
you ever look at and old school crt monitor at 60Hz?
i do agree with you that on such a small screen, more that 60fps is more for epeen benches than actual performance.
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Bwhahahahaha your name made me lol!
Tbh I had a glimpse of "training day" run through my head when I seen your screen name
(carry on with the useless benchmark improvements)
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The door is over here troll -> http://****off.com
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am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
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A critical eye viewing in from the outside might see this as some sort of disaster of a phone...but I don't experience any of this at all, and for some of those items quite the opposite. There are always issues to be worked out when you get a phone on/right after release...that is ALWAYS to be expected...and always remember that the vast majority who are pleased and not having problems typically won't say anything at all...
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Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.
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am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.
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Excellent point... The only bug that's serious to me is the random loss of service. That's potentially life-threatening. All the other bugs are just annoyances.
malibu_23 said:
am i lying? are those not the top issues with this phone?
Im rocking the OG evo, and this isnt my 1st phone, so im well aware of "new phone" bugs, (see sig) but these top bugs/annoyances im seeing seem really bad to me. Cuz its stuff that would affect me daily, but everyone's usage varies. Im sure its an awesome phone as a whole thats y i lurk here to see whats the latest with mods to fix it or actually updates pushed by sammy. y'all too sensitive with peoples opinions on phones.
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No, I'm not mad, and no you're not right:
heat issues
iffy battery
Crummy radio/wifi range
apps/games closing out bug
screen on delay
now a frame rate lock?
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heat issues = It's not really an issue at all. It gets barely hot, unless you're device is malfunctioned in which case you should return it
iffy battery = where the hell did you read this? If you're talking about the OS consumption at 50%+ then thats a lemon and needs to be returned. hence why only a very small percentage of people are having this problem
crummy radio/wifi = it's not on par with photon for example, but it's good enough, and not a deal breaker at all. I get 2-3 bars of 4g everywhere I go. As for as wifi I have no use for because like I said, i get 4g everywhere so I have no need for wifi.
apps/games = again, most likely a lemon, and needs to be returned
screen on delay = caused by sd card, and even though its annoying at times, its still not a deal breaker
fps lock = pretty sure it's not an fps lock. afaik most if not all android phones are stuck at 60fps. Also i'm pretty sure your og evo was locked at 30fps and you still bought it.
most of the things you described are bugs, and need to be returned to sprint. Phones are mass assembled and some of them will have these bugs, thats why you have a 14 day window to return the phone if you experience any problems.
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No, I'm not mad, and no you're not right:
heat issues = It's not really an issue at all. It gets barely hot, unless you're device is malfunctioned in which case you should return it
iffy battery = where the hell did you read this? If you're talking about the OS consumption at 50%+ then thats a lemon and needs to be returned. hence why only a very small percentage of people are having this problem
crummy radio/wifi = it's not on par with photon for example, but it's good enough, and not a deal breaker at all. I get 2-3 bars of 4g everywhere I go. As for as wifi I have no use for because like I said, i get 4g everywhere so I have no need for wifi.
apps/games = again, most likely a lemon, and needs to be returned
screen on delay = caused by sd card, and even though its annoying at times, its still not a deal breaker
fps lock = pretty sure it's not an fps lock. afaik most if not all android phones are stuck at 60fps. Also i'm pretty sure your og evo was locked at 30fps and you still bought it.
most of the things you described are bugs, and need to be returned to sprint. Phones are mass assembled and some of them will have these bugs, thats why you have a 14 day window to return the phone if you experience any problems.
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This is exactly what I would've said, except the game/apps closing out thing is a legit problem (just not a big one). my gameboid emulator drops out randomly, but my snesoid emulator works just fine. I have a feeling that's a compatibility issue, but i'm also known for blowing smoke up people's asses
malibu, you need to understand that we on xda represent a minority of phone owners. Therefore, if it's a "hot topic" here, I can guarantee you that more than 50% of the owners of this phone have no freaking idea what you're talking about. Therefore, you cannot call any of these issues "hot issues" except LOS because LOS is like puberty...it'll eventually happen to everyone unless they're freaks.
If you don't wanna upgrade to this phone, that's fine, but please go bother the people in the forum of the phone you do plan on buying. Thanks!
As for this 60 fps lock....hmmmm
I don't think so
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The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
EDIT: Also I did a camera and video comparison. The picture and video quality is just better on the Aria. Maybe it's just my Evo.
booloobunny said:
The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
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It's the Damn FPS LOCK! My parents have the incredible and that also feels sooo much smoother. Come on HTC give us a factory fix instead of leaving it to the Devs again! They will fix it! But they shouldn't have to!
P.S. we don't call the Android op sys OS 2.2 its not an iphoney....its froyo ....just messn with Ya I couldn't resist
Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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100% absolutely.
Very much so yes.
I went from CM6 with a 53 FPS avg to test Fresh 3 with the stock HTC kernel with 29 FPS avg. Night and day difference navigating around the phone. It really is that bad. It's a shame HTC is stonewalling on the situation.
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That's it... I'm running CM-1 with netarchy fix I think... anyway, it's NIGHT and DAY difference. Do yourself a favor and get a rom/kernel with a fix.
Mine benchmarks just fine now... infact, with Cm6 + Snap kernel, I benchmark a bit better than most snapdragon phones.
30.3 on neocore, HOLLA'.
Its not just the fps lock, it also has alot to do with the graphics accelerator. For one HTC didnt include the proper drivers for the graphics to run at full speed and not only that but it is not an indipendent G.A. it is "intergrated". In other words, if youve ever bought a new graphics card for your computer because most of us nerds know that most comps. bought out there have "intergrated" fx cards. They are built into the motherboard, therefor sucking more energy and resources from all the other parts of the computer. Its the same way with this phone, another thing is the HDMI output. Just like a computer if you want to have a nice vid card and also have a tv tuner or another output you would need to take up 2 slots, well you can only fit so many slots in a phone.
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
twilk73 said:
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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not just placebo. Like others have noticed there are Android phones that do not have the fps cap that do run smoother and are equal or less as far as processor and gpu specs go. I have been building pc gaming rigs for the last 8 or so years so I do know the difference not going by word of mouth and also agree with BALeR's post that its not just the fps cap. I didn't mention the gpu in my earlier post because I have used the incredible and it does run smoother loaded up, Not rooted than my evo was stock. Yes might be using different drivers also. The majority of the peeps who use the fps hack can't all be seeing placebo effects. There is some truth to the matter might not be huge but enough non the less for a noticeable difference. Not flaming or saying you are wrong, just defending what I posted.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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I would have to disagree. When I first started using netarchy's kernel for my evo it felt like butter
If the FPS unlock is a placebo than so is Chemo for cancer patients.
lol. yeah SERIOUSLY. I've gone back and forth from stock to Netarchy a dozen times, and I can instantly tell which is which.
My girlfriend has an EVO as well. She wasn't convinced either, so we took both phones, stripped our Sense "Scenes" to "Clean Slate", removed battery covers (I have carbon fiber on the back of mine.) and I had to guess who's was whos.
All I had to do was swipe once or twice and I knew which phone was mine vs hers. we did that probably a dozen times and I got it every single time.
I wasn't going off of some blemish or marking that my phone had that hers didn't, it was solely based on a BLANK screen. (default background of course.) and swiping back and forth.
No, but you're right.. it's make believe, like Toothpaste and the female orgasm.
twilk73 said:
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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LOL,the nerve of some people..So its a Placebo that I and 100's of other people see a huge difference in the over all "snappyness" of the phone when using a fix?...You can't be serious...placebo,lol....Linpack and CM6 isn't all that's out their sir.Seems like you need some real world experiences with other roms and unlocking FPS before posting.
The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
jigglywiggly said:
The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
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Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
felacio said:
Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I can't find actual specs for the screens refresh rate. (excluding the fps cap)
But, I believe the reason we feel so much lag is that the screen is capable of 60hz, which, all LCD screens are now a days. but the cap of 30fps is allowing the screen to refresh 2 times before another frame is drawn, giving us that feeling a lag.
again, this is just my thought on the whole thing as I can't find solid specs of the device, only a bunch of sites that say the 30 fps is a cap on the screens refresh rate. which, ...don't have to be the same thing.
twilk73 said:
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Wholly inaccurate. Netarchy's kernel shows a dramatic improvement in touch response in addition to improved framerate when scrolling. It's not just a placebo and it's borderline irresponsible to say otherwise.
CyanogenMod wins agian!
I'm actually thinking about the Epic if it gets CM6 support...
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Come back to us when you compare a Stock Nexus One or Incredible and a Stock Evo.
Again, scrolling between screens and apps... one can see a BIG difference.
The 30fps cap puts a TOUCH INPUT LAG. This makes it feel like the phone is lagging behind you. You swipe across the screen and the phone actually registers it around half a second after you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo
Looks like someone's a pretty big hypocrite... Twilk, you need to do some reading and learning.
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On top of that, I put the Cm6 Snap Kernel on top of the Cm6-RC1...
I get higher 3d benchmarks. For example...
-16.8 fps on Nenamark (formerly... 10'ish fps)
-30.3 fps on Neocore (formerly 25'ish)
-43 fps on GL Benchmark HD 1.1 (formerly 28'ish)
Install a Custom Rom, Netarchy's latest kernel and then Launcher Pro. You will notice a big difference
Just picking up this phone today and i cant help but feel annoyed by the amount of lag this phone has compared to my (stock rom) i9100 SII. Slight lag switching homescreens and the lag is definitely noticeable in the web browser... Pinch to zoom and stuff isnt nearly as smooth on this thing.
the browser isnt anywhere near as smooth as it was on my i9100. Any of you guys exprience these same issues? is it normal for this phone considering it has a lesser processor than the exynos?
Again not meaning to start a flame war just comparing the differences to the phone i already own and wondering if anyone else here feels the same way ?.
Otherwise i really love the .2 inches of screen size!
Trust me weve heard it before .
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I haven't experienced an noticeable lag but then again i've never used the original with the exynos processor. It's still the fastest phone i've ever owned. It kills the g2x which was my first dualcore. I'm currently trying to roundup $, convince myself and making excuses to get the international galaxy nexus.
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Man if this is lagging, then all my previous phones were beyond lag!
Swyped from my iPhone eater
-BeastMOD
Hey op, I came from the i9100 as well and know EXACTLY what you're talking about... unless you've used it long term, you don't know what your missing. Now for the fix, you need to flash BeastMod 2.5.... its a cyan colored ROM... IMHO it is the best ROM around here to help me not regret my decision to switch. I here jugs and bomb are as good as well. Its the difference in processor power... most people see 1.2 vs. 1.5 and think 1.5 is better... not here, Exynos 1.2 runs laps around this 1.5 phone... anyway, with a little Modding, you can be happy, I promise. If you need any help, let me know. I have the entire i9100 app collection if you are missing something special (screen adjustment wont work). Oh, the new BM2.5's kernel can be left alone, its great...
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
this will answer some of those myth you hear about Exynos vs Qualcommn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19461011#post19461011
and just for reference, no even on stock ROM the phone is very fluid, everything non stock is just icing on top. as in flashing just for the kick of having some fun, but it's not necessary to flash any of the Custom ROMs to make the phone faster
just remove all the bloatware that came preloaded with, and you'll be fine
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Just picking up this phone today and i cant help but feel annoyed by the amount of lag this phone has compared to my (stock rom) i9100 SII. Slight lag switching homescreens and the lag is definitely noticeable in the web browser... Pinch to zoom and stuff isnt nearly as smooth on this thing.
the browser isnt anywhere near as smooth as it was on my i9100. Any of you guys exprience these same issues? is it normal for this phone considering it has a lesser processor than the exynos?
Again not meaning to start a flame war just comparing the differences to the phone i already own and wondering if anyone else here feels the same way ?.
Otherwise i really love the .2 inches of screen size!
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unleashed12 said:
Just picking up this phone today and i cant help but feel annoyed by the amount of lag this phone has compared to my (stock rom) i9100 SII. Slight lag switching homescreens and the lag is definitely noticeable in the web browser... Pinch to zoom and stuff isnt nearly as smooth on this thing.
the browser isnt anywhere near as smooth as it was on my i9100. Any of you guys exprience these same issues? is it normal for this phone considering it has a lesser processor than the exynos?
Again not meaning to start a flame war just comparing the differences to the phone i already own and wondering if anyone else here feels the same way ?.
Otherwise i really love the .2 inches of screen size!
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Your phone was hardware accelerated aka the Exynos processor utilizing GPU resources.
The t989 hasn't gotten the appropriate GPU drivers but I'm sure the next ICS update should help fix things up nicely.
Keep your eyes peeled
yay
I've used both in person, and I know what he is talking about... the previous poster talking about the gpu acceleration is spot on. the international version is butter smooth at scrolling in the web browser, where ours isn't quite as quick. However... using bullet kernel it is getting very close! and once again, if ICS uses our hardware properly for hardware acceleration, we should be better off. Our hardware overall is slightly quicker than the exynos versions. See:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5053/vellamo-benchmarking-on-six-android-phones
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this will answer some of those myth you hear about Exynos vs Qualcommn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19461011#post19461011
and just for reference, no even on stock ROM the phone is very fluid, everything non stock is just icing on top. as in flashing just for the kick of having some fun, but it's not necessary to flash any of the Custom ROMs to make the phone faster
just remove all the bloatware that came preloaded with, and you'll be fine
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I'm afraid this is simply because you own the t989 and not the i9100. Anybody that has ever used them side by side will tell you there is a world of difference in the fluidness of operation. I love my t989 now that IV modded it but when I pulled it out of the box after using the i9100 for months I considered it unusable to my standards. I know this hurts people's feelings who have spent their hard earned money on a device and are commuted to the idea that THEIRS is the best but until you use them side by side, there isn't an artical on the planet that will convince me they are anywhere near equal. That being said, I stick by my first post, with a good rom from here, you can make the t989 *almost* as fluid as the i9100.
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The international version never choked or stutterred playing modern combat 2.....
It was better and quicker but this is almost as good.
The main difference is hardware accelrration and gpu performance in games
I used the original for 3 months before getting this
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The international is 1.2 ghz and you can't overclock to 1.5 cuz it will overheat.
I am overclocked to 1.8 on my TMO SGS2 and it is still cool and running smooth.
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Why do people that had a i9100, saying it's better than the 989, currently own a 989?
why change to something inferior? (in your eyes)
Note: I never owned a i9100. Coming from a BB Torch, i can assure you the 989 is like a ferrari for me..
Because the i9100 is not compatible with Tmobile. If out were I would still have it.
I refuser to pay the att price for a smartphone plan
I was using an att Dumb phone plan with unlimited data, buy I wanted high speed data. So this was my only option, if I wanted to be able to enjoy fast data like everyone else
Data spotted on art dumb phone plan was about 1 Mg/s on a good day
The phone was a monster, especially with hardware acceleration, and was able to run the most demanding games free of lag.
If you don't play games, no big deal
but better graphics and processing power was a plus
I could go crazy mindlessly opening apps , switching windows like a mad man and it won't even give you one hiccup
This phone is right behind it tho
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kriEv said:
Why do people that had a i9100, saying it's better than the 989, currently own a 989?
why change to something inferior? (in your eyes)
Note: I never owned a i9100. Coming from a BB Torch, i can assure you the 989 is like a ferrari for me..
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i've played with the i9100 before i returned it back to the store, as it was not AWS compatible
both phones feels the same in stock, you'll only notice the difference after OC
the i9100 gets hot quickly at 1.5
i like the bigger larger screen of the T989 more
T989 is much better than I9100, not only screen size, but CPU and chip set as well
kriEv said:
Why do people that had a i9100, saying it's better than the 989, currently own a 989?
why change to something inferior? (in your eyes)
Note: I never owned a i9100. Coming from a BB Torch, i can assure you the 989 is like a ferrari for me..
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I'm with T-Mobile... that's why. Its not crazy inferior .. the i9100 is simply slightly better in my opinion (and in benchmarks). I too enjoy the bigger screen... to bad its a jacked up piece of crap bigger screen.... but hopefully supercurio fixes it for us! You always will have this when you say another phone is better in the lesser phones forums.. but I own a t989 and love it... I owned the i9100 and loved it to... on a side note, I oced my i9100 a week after I got it and had it for months and it never felt even remotely warm... I'm not sure why people are saying that.. maybe some did, but not mine... but let's say it did get warm.. as long as the screen doesn't have discoloration, lines, and blobs, and its the fastest phone to date, who cares if it gets warm? I can think of a billion other things that would make me trash a phone before that.. kind of a silly point to try to make. But all joking aside, I really enjoy the t989 and can live with the minor discrepancies, just like I have with every other phone IV ever owned. Its a great phone, just like all the other sgs2s out there.
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I honestly believe that the inferior performance in the launcher and browser are due to inefficient code rather than any hardware discrepancy. The Adreno 220 is far, far more than powerful enough to hardware accelerate the entire UI/UI animations at a constant 60FPS.
I used a i9100 in Taiwan a while ago, before any variant came out in the US. I can definitely vouch for daddymatt's comments. Debloated and supercharged, it runs much smoother. Enough to the point where the difference isn't really noticeable if you aren't directly looking for it. Still, I'm quite angry with T-Mo's decision to ditch the Exynos for the Snapdragon chip. I'd rather have slower download speeds than worse performance - no one's entire smartphone experience consists of nothing but web browsing.
The screen issues are annoying as well - This is the best phone on T-Mobile, but the fact that it could be so much better makes me peeved.
I'm hoping the ICS update can correct these issues.
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I honestly believe that the inferior performance in the launcher and browser are due to inefficient code rather than any hardware discrepancy. The Adreno 220 is far, far more than powerful enough to hardware accelerate the entire UI/UI animations at a constant 60FPS.
I used a i9100 in Taiwan a while ago, before any variant came out in the US. I can definitely vouch for daddymatt's comments. Debloated and supercharged, it runs much smoother. Enough to the point where the difference isn't really noticeable if you aren't directly looking for it. Still, I'm quite angry with T-Mo's decision to ditch the Exynos for the Snapdragon chip. I'd rather have slower download speeds than worse performance - no one's entire smartphone experience consists of nothing but web browsing.
The screen issues are annoying as well - This is the best phone on T-Mobile, but the fact that it could be so much better makes me peeved.
I'm hoping the ICS update can correct these issues.
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Qualcomm decided to use one system bus most likely to save money. While it is still good due to asynchronous processers. The gpu has to wait most likely milliseconds for the cpu. A scheduler is required to organize the traffic by assigning frequencies and priorities to each signal. By in no means is it worst performance other than benchmarks and on paper. Your running android any software optimized around the processor enough the difference wouldn't be noticeable. The other processors i think(don't hold me to that) have two system bus. Even the old second gen scorpions had two which was a complete waste of the money but made them on top for various reasons.
you mustve picked up a bad t989 and a really good i9100
my friend had one of those international versions, let me tell ya..it took exactly 20seconds to zoom into a picture..and his phone was heating up..
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that's a bit far fetched, they are about at par with each other, tech spec wise the I9100 is a tad bit better, but in real life performance as far as us human are concerned, it feels the same.
except when OC-ed, then you'll notice some significant difference on either phone depending on which custom ROM you use.
In an effort to soften all the bad feedback this phone has received, I have compiled a small list of the major complaints that have been mentioned regarding this device and will attempt to defuse them with fact and suggestions. Hopefully this will deter someone from posting the 100th "The Galaxy Nexus screen sucks!" topic.
This post isn't to claim that there isn't anything wrong with the phone, just to have a peek at how a normal device should function. Sort of to give people a benchmark to compare theirs to. More updates to come. Without further ado:
The Galaxy Nexus battery sucks!
There are a couple reasons why you might be experiencing less than favorable battery life. The first is what I like to call New Phone Syndrome. This has several side effects. The first being that your phone is so shiny and new that you can't seem to take it out of your hands. The Galaxy Nexus has a beautiful 4.65 inch Super AMOLED screen that, unfortunately, uses a lot of power. This combined with a fresh battery that isn't calibrated will give you poor battery life. After the initial newness of the phone wears off and you go through a few battery cycles, you should notice an increase in battery life. Depending on your usage, you could get up to a day or more of use. This will vary greatly!
A more legitimate concern pertaining to battery is a poor reception area. When you phone is in a poor reception area, the OS will attempt to alleviate this by routing more power to the radios. This gives the radio a little more juice to try to find a signal and hold on to it. This unfortunately causes a huge battery drain even when you aren't using the device. This will show up as "Android OS" under the Battery menu in settings. Connecting your device to Wi-Fi will not help much either since you still need to be connected to make and receive phone calls. Your only recourse is to stay plugged in while a low reception area or switch to airplane mode. Maybe a future update will lower the power routed, but I would prefer to have a signal than no signal at all.
Under normal circumstances, your phone should drain virtually no battery at all while not in use.
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The Galaxy Nexus has horrible reception!
Research has been done to show that the Galaxy Nexus gets service at equal or better levels than current phones. There are a couple explanations as to why you might think you are getting worse reception or might actually be getting worse reception.
Signal Bars
The Galaxy Nexus calculates the signal strength and converts that into bars differently than other devices, specifically Verizon devices. What this means is that the Galaxy Nexus gives an ACCURATE bar indictator for signal while previous devices give some magical trickery that usually leads to full or nearly full bars. In actuality, they are using the strength from a different network type, typically EVDO, which is inaccurate as to what your true signal strength is.
AnandTech did an excellent write-up that sheds more light on the situation.
Defective Device
I know it's a tough pill to swallow that your brand new $200 - $700 device may be defective, but it might be true. If you are constantly getting dropped calls and data issues where in the past you had not, there could be an issue with your device. You first stop should be to phone up, if you can get enough of a signal lol, your service provider. Explain the situation to them and see what they can do for you. You may have to get your device exchanged a few times but don't give up! Your device should be free of any reception issues and this is NOT an issue for every device!
Exhibit B and C:
The Galaxy Nexus has a horrible screen!
The short answer is no, it doesn't. The long answer is that the Galaxy Nexus has a beautiful 4.65 inch HD Super AMOLED display. Many will complain that it has pentile-based display but honestly, this is hardly noticeable unless you are using it at an extremely low brightness setting. If you are having display issues including weird lines, etc, your device may again be defective and you should try to exchange it not post a "The display sucks!" topic. It won't help much.
The camera sucks! It takes fuzzy pictures! - provided by skynet11
Learn to wait for autofocus before taking your snapshot, and learn how to tweak the other settings properly, and you'll have crystal clear photos.
Exhibit D - Some photos taken by KangXi
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The GPS Sucks!
After the Galaxy S GPS debacle, many people are rightfully concerned that the GPS in the Galaxy Nexus would be subpar. Fear not! I can safely say that the GPS is rock solid. This could vary based on carrier and location, but generally you should see similiar results. If your GPS is taking ages to lock or you aren't getting a lock at all, again this could be a hardware or even a software issue. Troubleshooting is your best bet, probably a replacement device.
Outdoor:
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Indoor (six+ story building)
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if you load a low-resolution picture on a HD, of course it suck. thats why i switched all my WP to HD *must be over 1200 res.*.
as for signal, perfectly fine on my GN, and battery life.... still cant beat my friend's 4s. same game but my battery die faster....
The exhibit A has a lot of wake lock time ... While the screen was off
gogol said:
The exhibit A has a lot of wake lock time ... While the screen was off
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That's just frequent syncing.
gogol said:
The exhibit A has a lot of wake lock time ... While the screen was off
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Yup, probably my things syncing in the background but the battery only drained 4%. Total awake time was an hour out of the six hours. 28 minutes of that I was actually using it.
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I lose less than 1% an hour on my LTE device (on WIFI, haven't tested it on mobile data yet)
That was stock, doesn't perform as well on UV kernels for some reason
Thanks for this myths debunked thread. I'd like to add one:
The camera sucks! It takes fuzzy pictures!
Learn to wait for autofocus before taking your snapshot, and learn how to tweak the other settings properly, and you'll have crystal clear photos.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
skynet11 said:
Thanks for this myths debunked thread. I'd like to add one:
The camera sucks! It takes fuzzy pictures!
Learn to wait for autofocus before taking your snapshot, and learn how to tweak the other settings properly, and you'll have crystal clear photos.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Oh yes! I was going to mention that. Mind if I take your quote? Give you credit of course.
what's this about looking in the mirror and saying "galaxy nexus!" 3 times?
Good write up. Now what about the low volume issue? Is it widespread? GPS issue as well?
i wouldnt call the volume being low a myth...it is rather low, but then i'm coming from a phone that has stereo speakers on the side of the phone rather than the back...where it sits therefore muffling the sound more from a low starting point :|
Exhibit A is not a good example cause you were on Wifi the whole time. A lot of people throughout the workday will not have access to wifi and wifi is known to have less battery drain on standby.
I wonder if the low volume is hardware related at all. With past phones(that had Sense stock of course), anytime i'd try out an AOSP based ROM the volume was always noticeably quieter then on Sense. Devs would always attempt fixes but no matter what it wasnt the same. It makes me wonder how the volume would be on this phone if it had Sense.
jhuynh said:
Exhibit A is not a good example cause you were on Wifi the whole time. A lot of people throughout the workday will not have access to wifi and wifi is known to have less battery drain on standby.
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I've gotten nearly the same drainage on mobile date which is why I mentioned the fact of being in a bad reception area will kill your battery. I can do another test on mobile data and post another shot.
I will do a screenshot of the GPS and post that, as I get rock solid GPS.
My phone is normally on vibrate (I don't like my phone making noises) so I really can't speak to that. When I do have the volume turn up, I haven't had any issues with it.
Updated with GPS. Anyone is welcome to add other topics and I can add them.
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Your list is pretty spot on, but don't underestimate the "signal" problem (although I won't call it that henceforth). While I don't think there is a signal reporting problem, as you pointed out, there does seem to be lower performance out of this phone compared to some of the competition, specifically in areas of weaker signal in terms of maintaining a data connection and handing off between 3G/4G. That has been my experience.
Your assertions are in line with reported information from AnandTech, and I agree that some people's problem is a perceived problem due to "Signal Bar goggles" or ignorance to signal reading reporting between phones. But there are still legitimate concerns about data handoff between EV-DO/LTE as well as this phone's ability to hold signal in weaker areas. Those are real issues for real people. There are plenty of examples, myself in included, who see their Nexus fail to keep LTE where other phones do not, and fail to keep 3G where other phones do not. When I'm in a good signal area, my phone performs simlarly to HTC Rezound, Charge, Razr, Thunderbolt, and my old OG Droid. But put it in a fringe area, and the performance differences become more clear in both ability to hold the LTE or even 3G signal as well as data rates.
Maybe there's nothing "wrong" with the phone, it's just not as "good" at these things as some other phones (and that's certainly allowed), but just don't write it off yet as nothing wrong with it.
I've also seen my GPS on a few occasions have me somewhere miles away (even up to tens of miles away) from my actual location. When it's locating me 60 miles north of where I actually am, even with WiFi on, I'm calling shenanigans. I've had the phone for a 9 days and it's happened 3 times so far. Just something I'm keeping an eye on.
I'm not in the camp of people losing data completely for extended periods of time, and for those people, I would suggest a phone exchange. I think my device is behaving as designed, and there is just possibly some questionable performance issues compared to some other phones. For that reason, I'm keeping mine and being hopeful of updates addressing these concerns.
Uh the whole reception issue is a reality. It has nothing to do with reception bars etc. I have losr data connection numerous times and a few dropped calls in the los angeles and orange county area. And its ****ing frustrating.
The camera is meh. In many occasiosions its doesnt focus properly, so you get fuzzy pictures. Though the ipone4/4s and galaxy s2 devices are obviously better.
The gpu so far sucks. Its been underclocked, and ppl see lag in their live wallpapers, and especially in emu's like n64 and psx. Hopefully a good overclock will help this issue.
The battery is very lame, but i think that was a given because of 4g, i get some extra life by turning that off.
b15love said:
Uh the whole reception issue is a reality. It has nothing to do with reception bars etc. I have losr data connection numerous times and a few dropped calls in the los angeles and orange county area. And its ****ing frustrating.
The camera is meh. In many occasiosions its doesnt focus properly, so you get fuzzy pictures. Though the ipone4/4s and galaxy s2 devices are obviously better.
The gpu so far sucks. Its been underclocked, and ppl see lag in their live wallpapers, and especially in emu's like n64 and psx. Hopefully a good overclock will help this issue.
The battery is very lame, but i think that was a given because of 4g, i get some extra life by turning that off.
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I never said the reception issue isn't real. The myth is that all devices suffer from this problem. My suggestion was that if you are having a bunch of problems that there might be a problem with your device.
Camera, I refer to the OP.
GPU, could be an issue with the high resolution and large screen. Probably will be optimized in the future. I'm running 4.0.3 and it's very smooth.
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Your list is pretty spot on, but don't underestimate the "signal" problem (although I won't call it that henceforth). While I don't think there is a signal reporting problem, as you pointed out, there does seem to be lower performance out of this phone compared to some of the competition, specifically in areas of weaker signal in terms of maintaining a data connection and handing off between 3G/4G. That has been my experience.
Your assertions are in line with reported information from AnandTech, and I agree that some people's problem is a perceived problem due to "Signal Bar goggles" or ignorance to signal reading reporting between phones. But there are still legitimate concerns about data handoff between EV-DO/LTE as well as this phone's ability to hold signal in weaker areas. Those are real issues for real people. There are plenty of examples, myself in included, who see their Nexus fail to keep LTE where other phones do not, and fail to keep 3G where other phones do not. When I'm in a good signal area, my phone performs simlarly to HTC Rezound, Charge, Razr, Thunderbolt, and my old OG Droid. But put it in a fringe area, and the performance differences become more clear in both ability to hold the LTE or even 3G signal as well as data rates.
Maybe there's nothing "wrong" with the phone, it's just not as "good" at these things as some other phones (and that's certainly allowed), but just don't write it off yet as nothing wrong with it.
I've also seen my GPS on a few occasions have me somewhere miles away (even up to tens of miles away) from my actual location. When it's locating me 60 miles north of where I actually am, even with WiFi on, I'm calling shenanigans. I've had the phone for a 9 days and it's happened 3 times so far. Just something I'm keeping an eye on.
I'm not in the camp of people losing data completely for extended periods of time, and for those people, I would suggest a phone exchange. I think my device is behaving as designed, and there is just possibly some questionable performance issues compared to some other phones. For that reason, I'm keeping mine and being hopeful of updates addressing these concerns.
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This post isn't to claim that there isn't anything wrong with the phone, just to have a peek at how a normal device should function. Sort of to give people a benchmark to compare theirs to.
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I see. So the title " The Galaxy Nexus has horrible reception!" Is not a myth and is partially true
Post your thoughts here i like to know.
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No heat here.. Maybe a little warmth during heavy use.. But not near as hot as my gs5 gets.. This thing is super fast.. Blows every other phone out of the water (using gel launcher here and running art) battery seems really good so far.. Only on my second charge cycle.. And yes it's worth every penny.
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You're going to get different opinions from everyone based on phone they're coming from. I personally came from the One X...here are my 2 pennies.
- Heat: Waaaaaaaay less heat than my One X. You could seriously cook spam off the back of my phone. While playing some of these new games, my phone would shut off due to the heat. This phone will get "warm" but I've noticed that it has calmed down quite a bit after the second day. I also have a case on there so it may retain some heat as well. As soon as some custom roms/kernels get made I'm sure this will go away.
TL;DR: I wouldn't worry about heat.
-Performance: I noticed the lag that everyone mentioned but I just kept with it and let the phone settle. There is hardly any lag. Compared to a phone that was 2 years old, this thing flies.
-Battery: I haven't really cared what the battery is doing just yet. I'm always playing games, streaming music, talking on it...you know, doing everything I bought it for; the battery hasn't bothered me yet, so that's gotta be a good sign. I'm letting this settle and then I'll really analyze this. But until kernels are built for the phone, I could care less.
Summary: Yes, this phone was worth waiting out my dreaded AT&T contract, waiting for it to become available from T-Mobile. I have played with all the newest phones (s5, M8, OPO) and this is the winner.
Buy it now.
No issues here. Great upgrade from the Nexus 5 for someone looking for a better camera and larger screen.
Got mine on the 11th and I'm very pleased to say that this is the first device in about the last 6 or 7 that I'm liking very much right out of the box! Don't get me wrong I already have my root apps and installs already planned out, but very good device. No heat (using Velis Auto Brightness App), no noticeable lag, battery has been pretty good (depending on use) and so far worth the money! Haven't seen any of the problems/issues others are/have been reporting either. Coming from SuperAmoled screen on my S4, this screen is quite dim but with some tweaks in the Velis app's brightness curve all is well.
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Heat? Not much hotter than any of my other devices I've used, it does get pretty warm while it's on the charger and I'm doing more intensive things, but as a whole heat is a non issue for me. Even playing Asphalt 8 my G2 would heat up way more and would throttle after about 2 stages.
Performance? A little disappointed actually. Out of the box the phone lags and microstutters quite a bit. Most noticeable with animations and switching between apps. Reminds me of the Galaxy S4 which I hated because of those nagging issues. I tried a few things, turning off animations in dev options, switching to ART runtime, trying other launchers, Nova and Apex.
All those things help speed things up, but all have their drawbacks. It's disappointing because you shouldn't have to sacrifice stability or lose functionality to get a smooth running device out of the box. I can see how some owners coming from older devices might view the G3 as a speed demon but I'm coming from an HTC One M8 which is the paragon of Android smoothness, on par with an iOS device if not better. Here's hoping a software update will smooth things up, I remember my G2 was much quicker after each subsequent software update.
Battery life is okay, doesn't seem to match my old G2 which I always thought was amazing. Seems to be on par with my HTC One M8. Nothing spectacular but I gotta give it credit for the removable battery.
Worth every penny? The design is gorgeous, the screen is breathtaking with the right content. 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and top of the line SOC at the moment for $599? Yes it's worth every penny. If LG optimized the software a bit more and toned down the oversharpening crap on the screen, it would be VERY hard for me to find something else to take it's place in my pocket.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
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For me personally, its worth it and ill recommend it to anyone. Lg are what's hot right now.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
For me personally, its worth it and ill recommend it to anyone. Lg are what's hot right now.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I guess. Maybe if you're someone that buys flagship phones every six months, you'll notice it more. Like coming from a rooted Nexus 5 or M8.
I upgraded from a Galaxy S III. I had that phone for about 2 years so the jump is huge for me compare to that. Even then, I feel the G3 is just as responsive as my Nexus 7. Which i find great considering how many nice features this phone has. Its not barebone like a Nexus.
The lag is definitely there , I disable most settings and apps plus enable art . Much better but not as smooth as the nexus 5 . But is expected with the heavy skin from LG the S5 is the same way
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Dan37tz said:
I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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You should I would like to see it because as hard as I try I see no lag.
There's definitely lag I was just testing it out at the store just playing around with it opening apps and such.and literally after 2 mins of playing with it. 3 or 4 stutters blew me off
I came from the One M8, Nexus 5 and currently using it along with One Plus One. One thing I noticed after using it for couple of days is it feels very wide compared to other phones. Kind of not a good experience if you are a heavy user and use the phone a lot. Gets little hot compared to other recent phones. Display is good, text is little over sharpened and auto brightness tends to be on the darker side. Performance wise does a decent job but not as good as One plus One or the M8. Camera is definitely better than other android phone I have used recently.
Overall you will be happy if you come from a older device, if you are changing from recent flagship you won't be blown away.
I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
Out of the box, no lag or screen issues that folks have been complaining about. Coming from a Nexus 5 I'm not a big fan of skins so I threw Nova on. 13 hrs in and I'm sitting at 51% on my battery. I'm really digging this phone.
only had it a few hours
1 NO LAG ! none ! nadda
2 no over saturation of text
3 sleeps like a baby
4 when the screens on it drinks juice like a cheap 2 dollar whore !
over all im happy i picked up the g3
arcanexvi said:
I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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Dxtra said:
How you disable thermal throttling?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+thermal+throttling+g3
Google is your friend!
Dxtra said:
How you disable thermal throttling?
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Dialer code.
3845#*851#
Scroll down to High Temp Property OFF and Toggle it to "on"
I definitely noticed micro stutter on the display models at the store and the white one I got, High Temp Property Mod helps but its still there. I've used the 1+1 the last week and its quite a bit smoother when it comes to scrolling, transitions, opening apps.
More details about lawsuit here - http://www.bursor.com/legal-action-against-one-plus/
If you purchased a OnePlus 9 or OnePlus 9 Pro smartphone at any point, we would like to hear from you about your experiences.
On July 6th, AnandTech reported that the OnePlus 9 and OnePlus 9 Pro smartphones were throttling popular apps, resulting in “inexplicable” slowdown. AnandTech further reported that “OnePlus is blacklisting popular applications away from its fastest cores [in the Snapdragon 888 processor], causing slow down in typical workloads such as web browsing.” AnandTech found that this throttling causes “most of the top popular [user] apps [to] get notably reduced performance” in the OnePlus 9 and OnePlus 9 Pro smartphones.
This must be the biggest tech joke ever.
So users didn't know the phone was throttling as there were no issues in the apps it was throttled in and now after discovering it, its a problem??
This is the "If I paid for the whole speedometer I'm gonna use the whole speedometer" mentality that made humans lose a few years of advancement
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This must be the biggest tech joke ever.
So users didn't know the phone was throttling as there were no issues in the apps it was throttled in and now after discovering it, its a problem??
This is the "If I paid for the whole speedometer I'm gonna use the whole speedometer" mentality that made humans lose a few years of advancement
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Wolkswagen cheating on emission tests wasn't an issue either, people didn't notice it was polluting way more than they said it was, so when they got caught they got fined hard but by your logic if people won't notice it's fine?
Apple was too caught throttling but most people didn't notice so it's also fine?
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Try to keep it civilised...
The argument about VW doesn't make sense.
VW got fined because they polluted more then they were allowed.
And so breaking the emission rules.
There are no rules regarding smartphone speed...
Also, the cars used more fuel then VW made people believe. Because they cheated the tests...
So if you bought a car thinking it would use X amount of fuel, in reality it used waaay more.
So more expensive as a consumer.
You do not need to charge your phone more because of this. Rather the contrary.
Bunecarera said:
Try to keep it civilised...
The argument about VW doesn't make sense.
VW got fined because they polluted more then they were allowed.
And so breaking the emission rules.
There are no rules regarding smartphone speed...
Also, the cars used more fuel then VW made people believe. Because they cheated the tests...
So if you bought a car thinking it would use X amount of fuel, in reality it used waaay more.
So more expensive as a consumer.
You do not need to charge your phone more because of this. Rather the contrary.
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There are no rules regarding phone speed or how much it produces CO2 sure, but it's still deceitful towards customers and that's illegal in most countries, advertising something that's not true.
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Wolkswagen cheating on emission tests wasn't an issue either, people didn't notice it was polluting way more than they said it was, so when they got caught they got fined hard but by your logic if people won't notice it's fine?
Apple was too caught throttling but most people didn't notice so it's also fine?
Your argument is garbage and it's honestly a shame to see people like you on an enthusiast forum. Maybe if you had more braincells you would've actually noticed that the performance when browsing wasn't quite there.
People like you are the reason why companies can keep exploiting customers with false promises and get away with it.
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Fikul said:
Stop crying and thank them that phone has better battery and generates less heat in these apps.
And if your cry will not stop, wait for Android 12, you will be able yo turn it off and fry an egg on the back of the phone if you want.
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Thank them? Are you mentally sane? Samsung has the same chip without this throttling and has better battery life lol. And why would I wait for their slow ass developers to create the toggle when I have been running without TPD/OPPerf for weeks now and it's completely fine? This phone gets hot even with that throttling enabled. This phone has deficient thermal design and battery life and all this software does is try to somewhat hide it lmao.
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I switched from Samsung S21+ to OP9 pro and i see no difference in battery life, both phones have thermal issues because it's more Snap888 thing.
So all actions made to get better battery life without causing any slowdowns are welcome.
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Stop crying and thank them that phone has better battery and generates less heat in these apps.
And if your cry will not stop, wait for Android 12, you will be able yo turn it off and fry an egg on the back of the phone if you want.
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Would you still buy a 256GB upgrade knowing that the added 128GB is locked off to allow the phone to appear less full? I completely agree with setting parameters that cause a restriction, but not package names.
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I switched from Samsung S21+ to OP9 pro and i see no difference in battery life, both phones have thermal issues because it's more Snap888 thing.
So all actions made to get better battery life without causing any slowdowns are welcome.
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there's a world of difference in performance with the OPPerf module flashed. I paid for a phone with X specs. I got a phone that isn't any better (and sometimes worse) in real world usage than my 7 Pro was.
I really don't understand why people are simping over OnePlus. They're still good phones and a pretty good company, but they boned 9 owners with this throttling.
"Let's limit the performance and hope they don't notice!".
They made a mistake, they got caught, let's see how they fix it.
There should be an option to enable or disable throttling based on user preference. Not just a blanket throttling.
everybody talk about slow app performance, there are many videos but why no video shows the slowness?
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Thank them? Are you mentally sane? Samsung has the same chip without this throttling and has better battery life lol. And why would I wait for their slow ass developers to create the toggle when I have been running without TPD/OPPerf for weeks now and it's completely fine? This phone gets hot even with that throttling enabled. This phone has deficient thermal design and battery life and all this software does is try to somewhat hide it lmao.
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This is exactly right.
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Thank them? Are you mentally sane? Samsung has the same chip without this throttling and has better battery life lol. And why would I wait for their slow ass developers to create the toggle when I have been running without TPD/OPPerf for weeks now and it's completely fine? This phone gets hot even with that throttling enabled. This phone has deficient thermal design and battery life and all this software does is try to somewhat hide it lmao.
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"Thank you Sir! May I have another!"
This is messed up and sounds like it's not correctable... insufficient heat sinking.
The cover up is always worse then the initial crime
Yeah, this isn't gonna get very far
Over here wondering if my post had anything to do with this
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Yeah, this isn't gonna get very far
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never know
fdgfgd said:
Wolkswagen cheating on emission tests wasn't an issue either, people didn't notice it was polluting way more than they said it was, so when they got caught they got fined hard but by your logic if people won't notice it's fine?
Apple was too caught throttling but most people didn't notice so it's also fine?
Your argument is garbage and it's honestly a shame to see people like you on an enthusiast forum. Maybe if you had more braincells you would've actually noticed that the performance when browsing wasn't quite there.
People like you are the reason why companies can keep exploiting customers with false promises and get away with it.
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This is the most ironic answer I have ever seen, Like holly shhhh it my dude
Did you read what you wrote for a second.
I would recommend taking a little more Iodine as the lack of Iodine responsible for the lack of logic.
I have had the 7pro(7 months),7t(3 months),8(1 month),8pro(6 months) and the 9pro(almost 4 months)
I have a minimum of 70+ apps installed at all time, I have never faced any slowdowns or lag on the phone.
You want me to sue them for limiting the performance of the CPU on apps that wont take use of it? why not OC the CPU to run the calculator?
When ever the app needs performance its there when ever it doesn't need it, its not there.
That is basic logic, I work within the laptops industry, I have good understanding of how PowerLimits, TDPs and wattages should be monitored on a mobile device this happens all the time, a customer wants to whole wattage and performance and the engineer knows its impossible to keep the device cool enough to preform reasonably.
its whole rabbit hole that I cant even convey properly, you getting angry because they did this proves you dont understand the logic behind it.
Go do your thing and cry for something stupid that will divert their focus from something important to deal with this.
awsan said:
This is the most ironic answer I have ever seen, Like holly shhhh it my dude
Did you read what you wrote for a second.
I would recommend taking a little more Iodine as the lack of Iodine responsible for the lack of logic.
I have had the 7pro(7 months),7t(3 months),8(1 month),8pro(6 months) and the 9pro(almost 4 months)
I have a minimum of 70+ apps installed at all time, I have never faced any slowdowns or lag on the phone.
You want me to sue them for limiting the performance of the CPU on apps that wont take use of it? why not OC the CPU to run the calculator?
When ever the app needs performance its there when ever it doesn't need it, its not there.
That is basic logic, I work within the laptops industry, I have good understanding of how PowerLimits, TDPs and wattages should be monitored on a mobile device this happens all the time, a customer wants to whole wattage and performance and the engineer knows its impossible to keep the device cool enough to preform reasonably.
its whole rabbit hole that I cant even convey properly, you getting angry because they did this proves you dont understand the logic behind it.
Go do your thing and cry for something stupid that will divert their focus from something important to deal with this.
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How is the amount of apps installed on your phone relevant here? It's not going to affect CPU thread management or clocks, we're not talking about storage speed here lol.
Limiting CPU on apps that wont make use of it? Are you serious, haha, you do know how sophisticated browsers are and that you can run complex software in them that can and will use up all the CPU power a machine has. You can run games in the browser, run multi threaded background tasks in Web Workers, build complex Javascript applications in it that can do any kind of graphical or not calculations. It's not the 90's anymore bro, the browser isn't a simple program to view HTML files anymore. Chrome is basically an OS at this point hence why ChromeOS exists. And it's clearly evident that you nor OnePlus realizes that.
If you work in the laptop industry then you should know that not a single manufacturer is doing blacklist/whitelist based CPU limiting and the CPU is only throttled when you run into thermal limits or you THE USER choose to use a power saving which usually slightly throttles GPU/CPU.
The 888 chip was designed so that the X1 Prime core is used for short lived intensive tasks when for example opening a new website and the Javascript needs to be parsed and executed, but OnePlus decided that they don't like it and disable or throttle it heavily going against Qualcomm's design.
Why even put the 888 in the phone if you're going to throttle it so it wouldn't be ever used in it's full potential, just for marketing and then hope clueless people like you eat it up?
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How is the amount of apps installed on your phone relevant here? It's not going to affect CPU thread management or clocks, we're not talking about storage speed here lol.
Limiting CPU on apps that wont make use of it? Are you serious, haha, you do know how sophisticated browsers are and that you can run complex software in them that can and will use up all the CPU power a machine has. You can run games in the browser, run multi threaded background tasks in Web Workers, build complex Javascript applications in it that can do any kind of graphical or not calculations. It's not the 90's anymore bro, the browser isn't a simple program to view HTML files anymore. Chrome is basically an OS at this point hence why ChromeOS exists. And it's clearly evident that you nor OnePlus realizes that.
If you work in the laptop industry then you should know that not a single manufacturer is doing blacklist/whitelist based CPU limiting and the CPU is only throttled when you run into thermal limits or you THE USER choose to use a power saving which usually slightly throttles GPU/CPU.
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And your using smartphone for all of this stuff ? Impressive
I'm not saying that they did it correctly, throttling is not an issue but the fact that they didn't inform customers about it was a mistake.
Anyway Spap 888 didn't give us only performance, there is also video and photo processing, modems and other advantages of having it, so don't tell me that they could use for example Snap 865 in OP9 Pro.