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Really pleased with my deal, T-Mobile UK, £15 a month, 600 minutes, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, and free phone for 18months contract.
Thought I would share that with you first as I'm REALLY impressed with that deal! (been with them over 5 years now mind!)
I had a quick question, as I've been using an iPhone and switching over. . . The friend stream and things like that, can they be changed to say a dedicated twitter application and dedicated facebook application. I dont generally use them in conjunction with each other and was just curious.
Also, the app space was a bit of a concern for me. Is the 119mb that is available really enough? I'm used to installing a lot of apps with the iPhone and just wondering what others experiences where with it...
Thanks guys!
To answer one of your question below: YES!
You dont have to install that FriendStream widget (I wont!).
You can find dedicated Facebook app, for example from Facebook.com itself:
http://www.facebook.com/mobile/?ref=pf
I prefer to access via web browser
There are coupld of twitter clients, you might search it here:
http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=twitter&market=android
People says this is one of the best:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/nebbie.twitter.appone/
And it is only $2
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Really pleased with my deal, T-Mobile UK, £15 a month, 600 minutes, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, and free phone for 18months contract.
Thought I would share that with you first as I'm REALLY impressed with that deal! (been with them over 5 years now mind!)
I had a quick question, as I've been using an iPhone and switching over. . . The friend stream and things like that, can they be changed to say a dedicated twitter application and dedicated facebook application. I dont generally use them in conjunction with each other and was just curious.
Also, the app space was a bit of a concern for me. Is the 119mb that is available really enough? I'm used to installing a lot of apps with the iPhone and just wondering what others experiences where with it...
Thanks guys!
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Ah so each individual screen is a widget. That makes sense now.
Its good to know that. I like the individual applications on the iphone and got used to that. I'm just hoping the native applications will be as good as the iphone's (i used twitteriffic and the native facebook app).
They are the main things I use it for (Guess its a bit sad! lol).
Cant wait to get my hands on it on tuesday and have a play with it!
if you use just facebook, you can install the FriendsStrem and use facebook only with it you dont have to sign in/have twitter, or other things .. that is if like the widget itself.
if you like to use normal applications (not widgets) than there are separate apps for them (and i believe Desire comes ships with them, Facebook app and peep "for twitter")
I was thinking of trying that but the friendstream just for twitter as I dont know how much information that it updates (new pictures etc).
With the applications do they have to be downloaded using the phone itself, or can they be downloaded and installed from the memory card? Not too the memory card, but if i downloaded them on my computer somehow...
I'm still trying to read up about the android OS and how it works.
Glad i've learned how to sync my gmail contacts accross for when i get it! That will save a lot of time entering numbers.
Got my phone this morning and the friend stream is AMAZING. Means that you can view all updates and when you lick on one it takes you to the native application.
I Think I love this phone! haha.
Your Desire should have official facebook app and Peep (Twitter Client) pre loaded... Mine did...
Must say though I do like the friends stream!
Yeah it came with them! After reading some reviews on the applications i honestly didnt think hat they would be as good as the iphone, and after switching from a 3GS I can say that this is a LOT faster doing things, from web browsing to loading applications and photos.
Everything just scrolls so smoothly. I'm sure this is a dream! haha
FYI.. there are a lot of Facebook and Twitter apps on the market and believe the following are the best off...
Facebook
Official App
Bloo
Babbler
Twitter
Twidroid
Seesmic
I believe you should be able to see all these on the market...
yeah, is it ok that im in england and any prices are displayed in $ ?
Seems a bit odd!
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yeah, is it ok that im in england and any prices are displayed in $ ?
Seems a bit odd!
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Fine, when you get to the pay screen it will give you a approx converted price as well, remember that your bank may charge a £1 for overseas transaction on a Credit or Debit card...
Also... you have 24 hours to uninstall and refund if your not happy with the app...
Thats actually a great idea of not being happy with the app. Been a fair few applications bought on the iphone that i hated after using!
In the past, i've had the Touch Cruise, T-Diamond and the T-Diamond 2.
I've always hated Winmob since it always seemed that only amatures were making apps for it and it was full of bugs.
With the desire in the post I have questions for people that have it already.
Do we think that the Android OS is going to end up killing WinMob? Is it much better? There's lots of talk saying maybe iphone app creators, now they've made some money, are moving to the Android OS to get some of the market and that with the Nexus and Desire making noise, the app market will grow very quickly.
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I've never had an iphone/pod and refuse to get one, however their itunes app store seems like a good idea, does android have one? everyone's talking about the 'market place' thing or whatever, is that an app on the phone that you can shop for new ones on or something (i've never even touched on Android before and been in Afghan for the last 6 months so i've been a bit out of the loop.
Well I have been developing apps for Symbian and Windows Mobile, but I can tell you that Android is a lot more friendly to code in. So I expect that the amount of apps (quality ones ofc) in the market will just grow rapidly.
Yes the "Market" is Androids version of the iPhone app store.
yea..
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Is there any way of getting Windows live on it? I really liked having my mail and msn so easily accessed on my TD2.
Since i've got hotmail i've been told i can't get it so it's pushed to my mail right?
You can link your hotmail to the phone so it automatically retrieves them and i'm not sure about Live Messenger but there are a few apps for it just not sure there is an official one.
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Is there any way of getting Windows live on it? I really liked having my mail and msn so easily accessed on my TD2.
Since i've got hotmail i've been told i can't get it so it's pushed to my mail right?
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from what i've heard you can sync the desire with hotmail, but i dont think the official win live will work on it, however palringo substitues msn very well
You can use Windows Live Messenger through apps like Meebo, eBuddy and Fring.
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from what i've heard you can sync the desire with hotmail, but i dont think the official win live will work on it, however palringo substitues msn very well
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you can simply set it up as a pop3 mail account
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you can simply set it up as a pop3 mail account
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I thought, if you use the free hotmail service, then you can't use pop3?
hense why Microsoft inbox doesn't work with hotmail right?
I think it works, I've read other people saying it worked even though they're on a free account.
I would recommend though you switch to googlemail, it's 10x better than hotmail.
Also congrats on coming back from Afghan.
I dont personally sync my hotmail (I use it as my junkmail account when I have to sign up to things) but my girlfriend syncs with it on her android based htc magic
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I think it works, I've read other people saying it worked even though they're on a free account.
I would recommend though you switch to googlemail, it's 10x better than hotmail.
Also congrats on coming back from Afghan.
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why is googlemail so much better ?
at the end of the day, everyone uses msn messenger and windows live mail works great on PC.
not back from afghan yet, got 7 days left. Though time in Bastion is pretty relaxed now for us and we're just counting down the days
It's been a tough 6 months
Barff1984 said:
why is googlemail so much better ?
at the end of the day, everyone uses msn messenger and windows live mail works great on PC.
not back from afghan yet, got 7 days left. Though time in Bastion is pretty relaxed now for us and we're just counting down the days
It's been a tough 6 months
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You just get less spam, everything is managed better, you get more space get to send larger attachments etc.
You can use MSN with a googlemail address you just register it at passport.net
brummiesteven said:
You just get less spam, everything is managed better, you get more space get to send larger attachments etc.
You can use MSN with a googlemail address you just register it at passport.net
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to be honest i dont care bout the size of attachments and the size cuz i know i got lots left anyway, and im not sure about trusting google with emails after the rumours of them reading the emails. lol
anyway so back to the point
is Android here to stay?
or do people think Winmob 7 will be better?
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anyway so back to the point
is Android here to stay?
or do people think Winmob 7 will be better?
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for me as a normal user/ graphic designer windows phone 7 is a total failure, it looks like a candy for twit-facebook addicts having trouble with their sight needing big buttons text etc.
definitely prefer droid and winmo6.5
Android will stay, WM7 will have to prove itself, and it will be difficult cuz it will be too locked (just like iCrap) it will be hard for WM7 to gain market shares at the beginning considering that the platform will be brand new (very different than other WM) and with the bad reputation the WM brand generated through out the past years.
I can easily say android is a very safe choice right now
Hello, Newbie to Android world here - receiving my HTC Desire, hopefully, next week.
Just wanted to share some information regarding an application called "LiveProfile" which will soon be released that incorporates BBM for Androids, if im not mistaken.
Anyone heard of it?
Just looked it up and from what I can see its a replacement for bbm. It will work across iPhone, blackberry and android. Basically MSN messenger for phones.
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I've been using a BlackBerry for practically 2 years now and I have to say perhaps the only application that has the BB stand out among its rivals is the BlackBerry Messenger - now with LiveProfile, I'm very excited for the upcoming release of this app.
What's the advantage of this over WhatsApp or PingChat? Those are both multi-platform already, and with WhatsApp there's no need for a user name as it uses your phone number, so anyone in your contacts with the application is automatically in your friend list.
Yeah, why another one? ... PingChat is OK.
I know, competition is good.
But for this kind of app, I just want ONE ...
It seems impossible.
Wait until someone created multi of multi IM of multi IM ...
PingChat is a good one.
MJwitter: well, quite frankly, i believe there is one prime advantage over iphone's Whatsapp in terms of privacy. With "whatsapp" you do not necessarily have to have the contact on your list, just as long as he has your number he is able to send you msgs - which a lot of people would find annoying (you could probably ignore them, im not sure, but its a terrible feature initially)
gogol + lukehluke: i have never heard of ping chat before. i'll have to google it. However, as i have mentioned earlier i believe this application is intended to merge bbm, whatsapp and so on all under one roof - again I am uncertain of this information; however, hopefully this turns out to be the advantage of LiveProfile.
Nonetheless, thank you for sharing that information.
I just checked it out; however it seems to display an error when i clicked on "Join Now." Is this application not yet released?
there are quite a few BBM replacements available. They will never connect to BBM Contacts but provide the same functionality.
1. PingChat
2. Cnectd
3. LucidMessenger
4. Pmessenger
those are all i know of atm.
I'll try ping chat on HTC, just as soon as I get it by next week.
I heard about Pmessenger, but the reviews weren't very good.
Is WhatsApp ever coning out for android?, ive tried to convert a few people over to ping chat but they all use whatsapp
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
LOL try to be patient, my friend.
Ive been trying to do that for the past 24 hrs too. fortunately, a few ppl installed it.
however,they dont need to "convert" to pingchat, ask them to install it and they could use both ;D
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
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Pingchat and Whatsapp? call themselves 'SMS Replacement' apps. Wherein they act like BBM so you can send a message whether a person is online or offline. These apps can only be used between their respective clients i.e. Pingchat-to-Pingchat, Whatsapp?-to-Whatsapp?
IM clients connect through AIM, MSN, Facebook &c.
Whatsapp Beta works. Google up Whatsapp android beta and youll find a download link on a facebook page. Install it and then you may get authorization error just wait like 1 day and try again and it will work. Been working well cant find any bugs with it yet.
I tried what you said but only info seems to say the beta is only available for people living in san fansisco and whatsapp put the app on your phone from there office?, cant seem to find a download link or apk file, if you have a link can you post it or reply to me with a pm to the link please, thanks.
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Ok i found it
http://beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
It installs fine but doesnt seem to work as you need to register to be a beta tester.
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yea like i said install it it will fail just wait and try again tommorow and it will start working. lots of people have reported success after waiting a while
Cool, i'll update in a day or 2 if its working, did you email them to request to be a beta tester or just try it after a few days and it worked without emailing them?
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Didn't send an email
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Cool, its started working.
Ok, my quick review - pingchat vs whatsapp
Its alot faster than pingchat in terms of messages being delivered, sometimes pingchat lags a very long time and also pingtchat soelmetimes doesnt give notifications unless you open the app, so whatsapp wins on those two.
But pingchat has a MUCH better look and feet to it, and it works on phone numbers & ID's so you can use either, but whatsapp only works over phone numbers, so unless i have the persons phone number i cant message them on whatsapp, but on pingchat you can just use there id and dont need there phone number so pingchat wins on that.
So both have goods & bads, ping chat is free though which is a plus, if you check in the account info in the whatsapp beta, it says it expires in November 2010, so i asume thats when it goes live in the android marketplace, it also has an upgrade option so it will definatly be a paid app when its released and have a limeted free use period
More people use whatsapp so its better "at the moment", but pingchat has a much better feel to it, so hopfully more people start using pingchat.
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It's been 1 week now since I started my new love affair with WP7. I must say, I am very impressed and I do not miss OS 6 on my dethroned BB at all. I got the Mozart for the spectacular camera and because that flip stand on the back of the HD7 is just a recipe for headaches when it starts popping off.
Anyway the only thing I am longing for is a nice IM client that can at least handle Yahoo Messenger. I've been reading about all the hype on "Cross Talk" having the power to give WP7, Oldphone and Android the ability to have Blackberry Messenger and Facebook Chat...It has been 5 months since it was first spotted and mid last month I read that Cross talk is built and good to go pending for the release of the first WP7 device. Now that 5 of them are out, where is it? Another myth maybe?
I'm sure the first developer who gets a decent IM platform up in the marketplace will have a pleasant Christmas!
It's been a week without BBM or any IM on my phone, there is only one so called "Messenger" in the Marketplace which is a Live Messenger Knock off but it's useless....it doesn't even alert you or show an icon when someone sends you a message unless you have the app open therefore it only works if YOU are the one initiating the chat thread or if you want to keep opening the app every 5 minutes to check.
Other than my aspirations for a working IM client, WP7 is just an absolute killer! Love the UI and how graphics run through the screen. It is by far the easiest...OS to learn from scratch!
Hopefully eBuddy will add their own messenger to WP7 as they seem to be one of the most popular ones on Android.
Mate, anything is better than nothing at this stage hahaha.
I know it's too early to expect that much from WP7 but then again in previous years almost every new OS that came out had at least a couple of IM options right away.
Let's see...
WP7 doesn't have support for sockets in 3rd party apps right now which is pretty crucial for IM clients.
yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.
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yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.
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They do have their own client... and it should be in the market place by now...
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/09/30/messenger-and-msn-applications-coming-to-windows-phone-7/
I hope there's actually a first party UIX-based client coming. The MSN protocol supports multiple points of presence, so you could keep your phone and your home computer online simultaneously.
personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5
Anything that doesn't require yet another account creation would be good, but I much prefer IM clients from the Vendor (i.e. Yahoo, AIM, WLM client from Yahoo, AOL, Microsoft).
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personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5
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technically this will never be the case with windows phone 7 as the start screen is the only thing that will show. However, in saying that, the makers of palringo can come up with a live tile which could automatically act like that, and then once you click the tile, it launches the application.
Messenger by Miyowa?
I am using this and it looks nice so far. MSN only (ofc)
i thought palringo was coming to wp7 they were one of the developers that had intentions on developing for wp7
Looks like IM+ is coming.
Souce
Can't wait for this.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/08/29/v...ree-cross-platform-instant-messaging-service/
Samsung is jumping into the ring and coming out with their own messaging service, directly taking aim RIM’s BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) and Apple’s iMessage. “ChatON” is free, global and “works across all major smartphone and feature phone platforms”, so including BlackBerry and iOS. ChatON will first come pre-installed on smartphones that run off Bada or Android platforms this October, but will be “available gradually across all major Smartphones, Tablets, notebook PCs and Samsung feature phones”. As to the features, Samsung states there will be 2 versions available. A basic feature of ChatON has group chat, image/video/music and location sharing. An enhanced version of ChatON gives a few additional options, such as interaction rank, ability to comment on a users profile and the option to send other users an animated message.
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Looks good. I just don't like the name "ChatON"... Doesn't sound right.
Anyway, I will only use it if it becomes available in non Samsung phones (don't know that many people with Sammy phones).
oh wow!!!! this is good.... its like windows live messenger all over again!
What would be the use of yet another chat app? Especially now that both Facebook and Google have robust and well populated chat networks.
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Looks good. I just don't like the name "ChatON"... Doesn't sound right.
Anyway, I will only use it if it becomes available in non Samsung phones (don't know that many people with Sammy phones).
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“works across all major smartphone and feature phone platforms”, so including BlackBerry and iOS."
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What would be the use of yet another chat app? Especially now that both Facebook and Google have robust and well populated chat networks.
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Personally i hate facebook and dont use it for chat, neither do any of my friends. Google talk is only for android. This works across all smartphones.
Although whether it will be better than Whatsapp remains to be seen
I agree Whatsapp is good let`s hope ChatON will be as good or even better.
Do we really need another IM client? I don't like whatsapp Gtalk works well for me.
What about Ebuddy XMS that everyone forgot? I also remember that Samsung included Palringo?? no one used it and is also forgotten. So... why will this succeed?
and Like @elkikin said the name isn't right, it doesn't sound good. I also don't like the profile page and that people can comment on it, it's trying to combine messaging and social network?
there also Kakatalk !
This seems pretty good there's a pr video and seems fine. But will it be too late,whatsapp has a good market and most my friends use it. Live Profile to me is a failure. Samsung need to make sure that all phones now come with this pre installed like berries have with BBM if it wants any chance. BBM will still remain the king of chat as it's simple and works fantastically well (ex BB user), in the UK anyway most teens are never off BBM including my sister for solely that reason she doesn't want to move to another phone!
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there also Kakatalk !
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There to many to name name them all.
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This seems pretty good there's a pr video and seems fine. But will it be too late,whatsapp has a good market and most my friends use it. Live Profile to me is a failure. Samsung need to make sure that all phones now come with this pre installed like berries have with BBM if it wants any chance. BBM will still remain the king of chat as it's simple and works fantastically well (ex BB user), in the UK anyway most teens are never off BBM including my sister for solely that reason she doesn't want to move to another phone!
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I never used a BB but i know how the bum works. Someone has to make a replica of that or RIM has to release it to other phones (there was a rumor). Google has now something like Huddle (what also works fine) but not a lot of people use G+.
I think if google promotes Gtalk it will be used, everyone who uses android has Gtalk on it so there are users. Newer phones can even use video chat. even friends on iPhone use Gtalk.
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There to many to name name them all.
I never used a BB but i know how the bum works. Someone has to make a replica of that or RIM has to release it to other phones (there was a rumor). Google has now something like Huddle (what also works fine) but not a lot of people use G+.
I think if google promotes Gtalk it will be used, everyone who uses android has Gtalk on it so there are users. Newer phones can even use video chat. even friends on iPhone use Gtalk.
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RIM can make a killing by releasing BBM as a cross platform chat app. But it's the one thing that makes the blackberry a little unique.
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RIM can make a killing by releasing BBM as a cross platform chat app. But it's the one thing that makes the blackberry a little unique.
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I know if this happens you can declare the BB dead so many people want to switch to an android or iPhone but the only thing keeping them is the BBM.
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I know if this happens you can declare the BB dead so many people want to switch to an android or iPhone but the only thing keeping them is the BBM.
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Agreed. No matter how much you persuade one of the benefits of moving they'll always say but x y or z doesn't have bbm! Push email is widely available so that's not an issue unless the company require bes. Only QNX and how quickly Rim can implement a competitive phone os will keep them alive although the hardcore addicts won't mind whatever they have.
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Ohhhhh i can see this going down the pan. Bbm and whats app own mobile messaging. Buuuut we will see... btw hate the name! Sounds.... boring. Oh hey sarah add me on "chaton" loool!
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I figured out what's wrong with this app's name. "ChatOn" sounds like "shat on", which is not nice, no sir. No sir indeed. They'll have to change the name.
How about just "Samsung chat"?
We are having so many chat clients and it is getting redundant.
I hope we can get a universal chat client where every platform use them as default then we are good.
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We are having so many chat clients and it is getting redundant.
I hope we can get a universal chat client where every platform use them as default then we are good.
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Why not use gtalk every android phone has one. I saw it even default on bb.
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Why not use gtalk every android phone has one. I saw it even default on bb.
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Because you are not automatically logged in.
BBM runs in the background you dont have the option to "sign off" unless you uninstall bbm app.
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Because you are not automatically logged in.
BBM runs in the background you dont have the option to "sign off" unless you uninstall bbm app.
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This i didn't know. But even if android comes with something like that Iphone would never have something like it. Apple is gona release their own chat client and i don't think it would be available on BBM or Android same as the facetime.
So what i think their will never be a universal chat client and we always be using third party apps