In the past, i've had the Touch Cruise, T-Diamond and the T-Diamond 2.
I've always hated Winmob since it always seemed that only amatures were making apps for it and it was full of bugs.
With the desire in the post I have questions for people that have it already.
Do we think that the Android OS is going to end up killing WinMob? Is it much better? There's lots of talk saying maybe iphone app creators, now they've made some money, are moving to the Android OS to get some of the market and that with the Nexus and Desire making noise, the app market will grow very quickly.
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I've never had an iphone/pod and refuse to get one, however their itunes app store seems like a good idea, does android have one? everyone's talking about the 'market place' thing or whatever, is that an app on the phone that you can shop for new ones on or something (i've never even touched on Android before and been in Afghan for the last 6 months so i've been a bit out of the loop.
Well I have been developing apps for Symbian and Windows Mobile, but I can tell you that Android is a lot more friendly to code in. So I expect that the amount of apps (quality ones ofc) in the market will just grow rapidly.
Yes the "Market" is Androids version of the iPhone app store.
yea..
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Is there any way of getting Windows live on it? I really liked having my mail and msn so easily accessed on my TD2.
Since i've got hotmail i've been told i can't get it so it's pushed to my mail right?
You can link your hotmail to the phone so it automatically retrieves them and i'm not sure about Live Messenger but there are a few apps for it just not sure there is an official one.
Barff1984 said:
yea..
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Is there any way of getting Windows live on it? I really liked having my mail and msn so easily accessed on my TD2.
Since i've got hotmail i've been told i can't get it so it's pushed to my mail right?
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from what i've heard you can sync the desire with hotmail, but i dont think the official win live will work on it, however palringo substitues msn very well
You can use Windows Live Messenger through apps like Meebo, eBuddy and Fring.
cez10 said:
from what i've heard you can sync the desire with hotmail, but i dont think the official win live will work on it, however palringo substitues msn very well
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you can simply set it up as a pop3 mail account
farnsbarns said:
you can simply set it up as a pop3 mail account
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I thought, if you use the free hotmail service, then you can't use pop3?
hense why Microsoft inbox doesn't work with hotmail right?
I think it works, I've read other people saying it worked even though they're on a free account.
I would recommend though you switch to googlemail, it's 10x better than hotmail.
Also congrats on coming back from Afghan.
I dont personally sync my hotmail (I use it as my junkmail account when I have to sign up to things) but my girlfriend syncs with it on her android based htc magic
brummiesteven said:
I think it works, I've read other people saying it worked even though they're on a free account.
I would recommend though you switch to googlemail, it's 10x better than hotmail.
Also congrats on coming back from Afghan.
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why is googlemail so much better ?
at the end of the day, everyone uses msn messenger and windows live mail works great on PC.
not back from afghan yet, got 7 days left. Though time in Bastion is pretty relaxed now for us and we're just counting down the days
It's been a tough 6 months
Barff1984 said:
why is googlemail so much better ?
at the end of the day, everyone uses msn messenger and windows live mail works great on PC.
not back from afghan yet, got 7 days left. Though time in Bastion is pretty relaxed now for us and we're just counting down the days
It's been a tough 6 months
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You just get less spam, everything is managed better, you get more space get to send larger attachments etc.
You can use MSN with a googlemail address you just register it at passport.net
brummiesteven said:
You just get less spam, everything is managed better, you get more space get to send larger attachments etc.
You can use MSN with a googlemail address you just register it at passport.net
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to be honest i dont care bout the size of attachments and the size cuz i know i got lots left anyway, and im not sure about trusting google with emails after the rumours of them reading the emails. lol
anyway so back to the point
is Android here to stay?
or do people think Winmob 7 will be better?
Barff1984 said:
anyway so back to the point
is Android here to stay?
or do people think Winmob 7 will be better?
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for me as a normal user/ graphic designer windows phone 7 is a total failure, it looks like a candy for twit-facebook addicts having trouble with their sight needing big buttons text etc.
definitely prefer droid and winmo6.5
Android will stay, WM7 will have to prove itself, and it will be difficult cuz it will be too locked (just like iCrap) it will be hard for WM7 to gain market shares at the beginning considering that the platform will be brand new (very different than other WM) and with the bad reputation the WM brand generated through out the past years.
I can easily say android is a very safe choice right now
Related
As of today i'm the proud owner of an Artemis to...
Coming from an MDA 3 this thing is a huge leap forward
The only thing that kinda bugs me is that i havent been able to find any MSN like apps on it.
It seems that Pocket MSN only goes as far as Winmobile 2003, perhaps any of you have a solution here?
Mine has Pocket MSN on it. Original ROM with no mods to it bought from Expansys. Not sure why your's wouldn't. In a pinch, you could use: http://mobile.msn.com to use the web version of it. Gives you everything except MSN Messenger but you can search the forums here for the Live Messenger Beta.
db
The Wonders of forums
once again forums come to the rescue. i got my MDA the other day, and have just spent the very good part of my VERY *cough cough* busy looking for msn solutions. searched hours on microsoft website ending up with nothing..
And then i had a PROPER look through XDA forum....and surprise surprise i found, installed and tested the soluotion.
i do hope everyone enjoys this find
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once again forums come to the rescue. i got my MDA the other day, and have just spent the very good part of my VERY *cough cough* busy looking for msn solutions. searched hours on microsoft website ending up with nothing..
And then i had a PROPER look through XDA forum....and surprise surprise i found, installed and tested the soluotion.
i do hope everyone enjoys this find
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Thank you for sharing bro..
anytime...anything to makes things easier for the good forum ppl.
hey i noticed your artemis is modded. it what way have you modded it. also where did u get from?
snoop85 said:
anytime...anything to makes things easier for the good forum ppl.
hey i noticed your artemis is modded. it what way have you modded it. also where did u get from?
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It's a joke the modified rom ..
I use this expression because of Locked Sucked Rom from ACE Hellas
Contacts to Address Book
hey guyz,
has anyone tried that file i post the other day.
i installed it and used it for a good 1hr. the only thing i was not happy with was the first time you use it, it asks do u want to add contacts to device address book. the only options you have is OK for yes and Cancel. Do cancel and you cant login. So its forcing you add the contacts, which i dont really want. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get around this??
Snoop
Hi cheers for the app.
I am rather new to this pocket pc game and I was wondering where I should drag this (unpacked) file or where (and how) I should install this.
thanks again
hey will
you and me both. forums are great help.
just place anywhere either on device or memory. then just simply click and it will do the install. and then you should find it under programs.
get anymore problems holla back.
snoop85 said:
hey guyz,
has anyone tried that file i post the other day.
i installed it and used it for a good 1hr. the only thing i was not happy with was the first time you use it, it asks do u want to add contacts to device address book. the only options you have is OK for yes and Cancel. Do cancel and you cant login. So its forcing you add the contacts, which i dont really want. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get around this??
Snoop
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ok i thought would be smart and delete the contacts from the device...hmmm not the best idea. Seems that it deleted the contacts within msn messenger as well.
anyone know i dont know how to get them back. without typing each one of my 200 contacts
why do microsoft have to make things so difficult
UPDATE 15/12/06 22:00
hi guys just to update you on this issue with the contacts. got my normal msn contacts back, thank god i do backups.
i have synced my MDA with my Apple mac and its built-in address book. Something i noticed on the MDA contacts was that there was one contact whose number, email/msn, address i had. and in his details it had his msn email under a field called IM (instant messeging). So i went back to my Mac Address book to see if it had similer field... and yep it did. So i spent a good 1hr changing all my 200 contacts email field into IM field...
Re-Synced the MDA and computer.... *wants to rip hair out*.... thats right no luck. Now my mda address book doesnt reconise the IM field from the Mac Address book...so the mda has no EMAILS at all now.
Hi all.
My Orbit has MSN installed, but instead I use the free Agile Messenger. Here's from the developers:
"Agile Messenger is the most feature rich and versatile Instant Messenger for mobile phones on the market today. Agile Messenger is used daily by over 2,000,000 users and has been perfected based on feature requests and feedback from tens of thousands of users. No other mobile Instant Messenger is as mature and reliable as Agile Messenger. "
You can get it here: http://www.getjar.com/products/5317/AgileMessenger
only about 500k file. Oh yeah, did I mention it's free?
Damn, I had to edit this post...this WAS free, I can see now that there's only a free trial. Well as they grow, the greed grows with them I guess... Even when I installed the previous FREE version after starting the program they FORCED me to upgrade, and then the upgraded app informed me that it will expire in 7 days unless...well you know.
ok, so just to do a quick recap.
I installed the above posted file, all went well, my contacts were imported and are now in my device address book and they are still on my msn on my PC.
What should I not do (or do) to not lose all my contacts?
oh and can the good gentleman that helped me before please tell me how to make a back up of my MSN contacts. CHeers
Willy
Willy Wanka said:
ok, so just to do a quick recap.
I installed the above posted file, all went well, my contacts were imported and are now in my device address book and they are still on my msn on my PC.
What should I not do (or do) to not lose all my contacts?
oh and can the good gentleman that helped me before please tell me how to make a back up of my MSN contacts. CHeers
Willy
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hi will,
congrats installing it.
this is the problem everyone is facing with live messenger. theres a thread about this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282540
one thing you DEF DONT!!! want to do (speaking from experiance lol) is delete the contacts from your device - Do that and contacts from your contacts PC msn messenger will happly be removed also.
if you want to back-up your PC msn that should be very easy. My experinace is based on msn on Apple Mac. Shouldnt be too different on Windows. YOu simply go to File > Save Contact List ... And choose a location to want.
Hope that helps.
Syncing on a mac
how are you syncing your Artemis with a mac? are you using any software or does isync support the sync, maybe i haven't been looking properley but can't find anything on it
thanks
rawedge
rawedge said:
how are you syncing your Artemis with a mac? are you using any software or does isync support the sync, maybe i haven't been looking properley but can't find anything on it
thanks
rawedge
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hi rawedge,
the 2 ways i know of syncing is two apps
1) great app called Missing Sync can be found at here and is great syncs iCal, Address, Time, Photos, iTunes, etc see website for more details. Its one of the best app i have used for syncing.
2) the other one is called PocketMac i think this app doesnt have support for WM5 yet but should do soon.
http://www.pocketmac.net/
this is what there website says about WM5
"Windows Mobile 5:
We are currently testing cumulative updates for all of our Windows Mobile products (PocketMac Pro, PocketMac Lite and PocketMac Phone). We expect to have updates out shortly and will email all of our customers the moment they're available."
You can download both apps for a triel period, after which you have to pay for it. Altho i think Missing Sync is worth the money.
As far as i know of iSync doesnt sync with Windows Mobile platform. But i think missing sync uses some of the technology behind iSync for sync information.
Hoep this helps. Anything else just holla
thanks
I've just looked at missing sync however the artemis/02xda orbit isn't listed in their supported phones. has anyone got it to succesfully work? Don't want to fork out ££ if it's not going to work
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I've just looked at missing sync however the artemis/02xda orbit isn't listed in their supported phones. has anyone got it to succesfully work? Don't want to fork out ££ if it's not going to work
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hi rawedge,
when i said i thought it was worth the money. i ment that i have successful tested and used for the past 2weeks. without any major problems. i would def recommend it for mac to windows mobile syncing. worth the investment def.
hope it helps. if u need any more specfic info, will be happy to help
Isn't it possible to extract pocket msn from a other rom?
Notorious said:
Isn't it possible to extract pocket msn from a other rom?
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ye that would good idea. i think the o2 orbit seems to have pocket msn installed.
either its t-mobile really making life difficuly or its just me. lol
I use the method listed on this page http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news2266.html OK so its not the newest app but it works and its free (I was going to purchase the application but the stupid MS site thought I was under age) its what I have loadd on my MDA C-III - Mike
Really pleased with my deal, T-Mobile UK, £15 a month, 600 minutes, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, and free phone for 18months contract.
Thought I would share that with you first as I'm REALLY impressed with that deal! (been with them over 5 years now mind!)
I had a quick question, as I've been using an iPhone and switching over. . . The friend stream and things like that, can they be changed to say a dedicated twitter application and dedicated facebook application. I dont generally use them in conjunction with each other and was just curious.
Also, the app space was a bit of a concern for me. Is the 119mb that is available really enough? I'm used to installing a lot of apps with the iPhone and just wondering what others experiences where with it...
Thanks guys!
To answer one of your question below: YES!
You dont have to install that FriendStream widget (I wont!).
You can find dedicated Facebook app, for example from Facebook.com itself:
http://www.facebook.com/mobile/?ref=pf
I prefer to access via web browser
There are coupld of twitter clients, you might search it here:
http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=twitter&market=android
People says this is one of the best:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/nebbie.twitter.appone/
And it is only $2
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Really pleased with my deal, T-Mobile UK, £15 a month, 600 minutes, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, and free phone for 18months contract.
Thought I would share that with you first as I'm REALLY impressed with that deal! (been with them over 5 years now mind!)
I had a quick question, as I've been using an iPhone and switching over. . . The friend stream and things like that, can they be changed to say a dedicated twitter application and dedicated facebook application. I dont generally use them in conjunction with each other and was just curious.
Also, the app space was a bit of a concern for me. Is the 119mb that is available really enough? I'm used to installing a lot of apps with the iPhone and just wondering what others experiences where with it...
Thanks guys!
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Ah so each individual screen is a widget. That makes sense now.
Its good to know that. I like the individual applications on the iphone and got used to that. I'm just hoping the native applications will be as good as the iphone's (i used twitteriffic and the native facebook app).
They are the main things I use it for (Guess its a bit sad! lol).
Cant wait to get my hands on it on tuesday and have a play with it!
if you use just facebook, you can install the FriendsStrem and use facebook only with it you dont have to sign in/have twitter, or other things .. that is if like the widget itself.
if you like to use normal applications (not widgets) than there are separate apps for them (and i believe Desire comes ships with them, Facebook app and peep "for twitter")
I was thinking of trying that but the friendstream just for twitter as I dont know how much information that it updates (new pictures etc).
With the applications do they have to be downloaded using the phone itself, or can they be downloaded and installed from the memory card? Not too the memory card, but if i downloaded them on my computer somehow...
I'm still trying to read up about the android OS and how it works.
Glad i've learned how to sync my gmail contacts accross for when i get it! That will save a lot of time entering numbers.
Got my phone this morning and the friend stream is AMAZING. Means that you can view all updates and when you lick on one it takes you to the native application.
I Think I love this phone! haha.
Your Desire should have official facebook app and Peep (Twitter Client) pre loaded... Mine did...
Must say though I do like the friends stream!
Yeah it came with them! After reading some reviews on the applications i honestly didnt think hat they would be as good as the iphone, and after switching from a 3GS I can say that this is a LOT faster doing things, from web browsing to loading applications and photos.
Everything just scrolls so smoothly. I'm sure this is a dream! haha
FYI.. there are a lot of Facebook and Twitter apps on the market and believe the following are the best off...
Facebook
Official App
Bloo
Babbler
Twitter
Twidroid
Seesmic
I believe you should be able to see all these on the market...
yeah, is it ok that im in england and any prices are displayed in $ ?
Seems a bit odd!
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yeah, is it ok that im in england and any prices are displayed in $ ?
Seems a bit odd!
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Fine, when you get to the pay screen it will give you a approx converted price as well, remember that your bank may charge a £1 for overseas transaction on a Credit or Debit card...
Also... you have 24 hours to uninstall and refund if your not happy with the app...
Thats actually a great idea of not being happy with the app. Been a fair few applications bought on the iphone that i hated after using!
I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
buy a HD2 instead. (!!!11!1!!!)
Why did you buy an Android phone if you want to install WM 6.5 on it?
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
You can argue (From a technical pov) that WM6.5 is a real OS and that Android isn't. In fact even Symbian would be more of a "Real" OS than Android. The difference is that those two OSes can run native code and Android just runs everything via Java. This doesn't mean much to most users but to developers it means a lot.
someone please shut this thread before the OP gets flamed to death......
If native code means a deficiency of decent apps, where even the few good ones are jerky, clunky and Windows CE...ey then I'm all for Java - go Java.
I left the HD2 because Windows Mobile is unreliable (believe it or not) because it was never meant to handle such complex skins as Sense UI and therefore leaked memory like a teabag full of pulped brain; and also because there was a deficiency of decent apps (despite its supposed ability to handle 'native code'). If it's so great then why are most of the .cabs people install fixes and patches rather than ACTUAL apps? And why are there no decent alternative Facebook apps etc? Is Windows Mobile 'TOO GOOD' for this sort of software development? For an OS a fifth of the age of Windows Mobile, Android has ten times as many IM apps (for example). Why is this so?
Android allows for one to code/install apps for even CORE applications like SMS and Email: show me a decent email replacement for Windows Mobile? One that ACTUALLY REPLACES the native one....you can't? Android can.
And as capricious as it might seem the rubbish email client in Windows Mobile was one of the reasons I started to loath the OS. What is the point of the 'click to scroll right' and 'pictures blocked for security reasons' BS??? Is it REALLY necessary? And why is it so....ugly?
Anyway I thought I'd get my word in before this thread gets closed. If you can't move with the times then go and buy a TyTn 2 or something. Outlook syncing will soon be as dead as Windows Mobile so for Google to include it would be a backwards step, being as more necessary features are still to be implemented.
It's all about the cloud.
P.S. research before jumping in and buying a phone as you seem to have very specific requirements. Outlook task and notes syncing is a VERY SPECIFIC requirement which in the overall scheme of a burgeoning OS would be deemed unnecessary by Google. I wouldn't buy a Renault Megane if I needed a tractor.
I think it's just a case of people not liking change at all. So the different and sometimes better things that Android provides seem not so good.
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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For work purposes most likely? Information that has to be stored securely in outlook on a system which they DO NOT want in the cloud? But would like to sync via hard wire or secure connection to the device?
Outlook syncing will be alive as long as Microsoft push it and businesses continue to use it and would rather not have information in the cloud, even Windows Phone 7 offers outlook syncing, it isn't going anywhere.
I havn't tried but doesn't htc sync allow to sync with Outlook?? I though that was what it said on the box....
Anyhow, i've just come from an HTC Touch HD where i have tried all the versions of windows and senses and other interfaces and i have to say i am loving my new desire!!!!
I am no developer but Android is so much better adapted to a smartphone, it's fast, fluid and allows all sorts of customization and when i had my HD, as far as i can remember, there were like 20 apps on the marketplace, i thin android market is at 30.000???? No question, no comparison!!!
An app on the Market - Touchdown allows tasks syncing with outlook. Not sure about Notes.
But to be honest, as has been said, why spend €500 on a phone and not have done any research into wether it will do what you want it to.
Not only that, but if its a problem, then in most instances you wil be able to return it within 7 or 14 days for a refund (less any charges) so you should have done that.
Whats the moral of this tale :- Always do your research!
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I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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If you had such explicit requirements, why didn't you do the research before hand?
Regarding issue with syncing tasks, use the calendar to create your tasks in outlook, use an app on your computer called google calendar sync to upload it to a gmail account, then you'll have them on your phone... simple.
Gustibus non disputandum est!
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
solaris78 said:
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Yeah after reading a bit, i think that you didn't really put much research into this... On your statements i would recommend Blackberry, its for emails, tasks and sync.
solaris78 said:
it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
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Show me the man who looks to buy a broken car, and I'll show you a HD2 that actually works as it's supposed to
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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dude, the thing is, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THIS PHONE. Period. When you bought it you know, it's running android. As for syncing with outlook, you could have research it before hand. If you explicitly use it for syncing with outlook, and your work has a lot to do with microsoft software, why did you not buy a windows mobile device? answer me, plz.
What next? ppl are gonna come out complaining they cant install windows mobile on their iphone? give me a break.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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I'm actually working for a global telecom company as IT, so your statement above makes me laugh.
Do you guys don't separate your work life from your personal life? Are you doing work all the time.
My phone is exactly that, MY phone, not the company's phone, not the work phone. I'm not paying MY money to have a phone for work. My company gave me a phone and that's the work phone, that's the phone i'm called when someone from WORK wants to reach me, that phone is for work mail, that phone is for the stuff you said you needed. That phone that has the features my work requires from me.
This phone is my personal phone. I don't want to be contacted on this phone, I don't want to do work on this phone, it's MY phone and yeah, I do use Gmail as a personal email, I do use Google Calendar as my personal agenda, I do use Google Contacts and many many other cloud applications Google offers and I couldn't be happier. I want Facebook on MY phone, I want YouTube on MY phone.
Oh and that outlook you so much want is just a fronted to a MTA server, be it POP3, IMAP or Exchange. If you're not working for a secret spy agency most likely those MTA's are public and accessible from the internet. Why not connect to those and insist to connect to Outlook? If your company uses Exchange you can set up this phone to use it also, and you can sync everything outlook has ... through the cloud (that is if you work in a normal company that actually lets users check their mail when not at the office), so you don't need to be connected to anything, just need internet on the phone.
I configured the Exchange ActiveSync from my work account the phone and works like a charm, if i put an appointment on my phone it shows up on Outlook after a few minutes "just like that", if i put an appointment on Outlook it shows up on my phone "just like that". To tell you the truth since I got this phone, i never once hooked it to a computer, only transfered via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sometimes.
foner78 said:
So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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No man, I don't have a rant here, just trying to explain myself. It's not fair what happens to me here, because I asked a question and everybody jumped on me instead helping me. Exchange Server it's a great solution but unfortunately my company will not use a server for this. And for me there is no better alternative than Outlook, WE ARE DIFFERENT, accept it. I installed 10 notes apps, but none have sync with outlook. I know that I can use notes directly on phone but it's much easier on the laptop.
I repeat: I can, and probably I will return the phone. I love how it looks, dimensions, the hardware... and I was thinking that maybe because it's a software problem it can be solved. Why are so ... LOCKED ?
It's been 1 week now since I started my new love affair with WP7. I must say, I am very impressed and I do not miss OS 6 on my dethroned BB at all. I got the Mozart for the spectacular camera and because that flip stand on the back of the HD7 is just a recipe for headaches when it starts popping off.
Anyway the only thing I am longing for is a nice IM client that can at least handle Yahoo Messenger. I've been reading about all the hype on "Cross Talk" having the power to give WP7, Oldphone and Android the ability to have Blackberry Messenger and Facebook Chat...It has been 5 months since it was first spotted and mid last month I read that Cross talk is built and good to go pending for the release of the first WP7 device. Now that 5 of them are out, where is it? Another myth maybe?
I'm sure the first developer who gets a decent IM platform up in the marketplace will have a pleasant Christmas!
It's been a week without BBM or any IM on my phone, there is only one so called "Messenger" in the Marketplace which is a Live Messenger Knock off but it's useless....it doesn't even alert you or show an icon when someone sends you a message unless you have the app open therefore it only works if YOU are the one initiating the chat thread or if you want to keep opening the app every 5 minutes to check.
Other than my aspirations for a working IM client, WP7 is just an absolute killer! Love the UI and how graphics run through the screen. It is by far the easiest...OS to learn from scratch!
Hopefully eBuddy will add their own messenger to WP7 as they seem to be one of the most popular ones on Android.
Mate, anything is better than nothing at this stage hahaha.
I know it's too early to expect that much from WP7 but then again in previous years almost every new OS that came out had at least a couple of IM options right away.
Let's see...
WP7 doesn't have support for sockets in 3rd party apps right now which is pretty crucial for IM clients.
yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.
qilong said:
yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.
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They do have their own client... and it should be in the market place by now...
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/09/30/messenger-and-msn-applications-coming-to-windows-phone-7/
I hope there's actually a first party UIX-based client coming. The MSN protocol supports multiple points of presence, so you could keep your phone and your home computer online simultaneously.
personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5
Anything that doesn't require yet another account creation would be good, but I much prefer IM clients from the Vendor (i.e. Yahoo, AIM, WLM client from Yahoo, AOL, Microsoft).
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personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5
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technically this will never be the case with windows phone 7 as the start screen is the only thing that will show. However, in saying that, the makers of palringo can come up with a live tile which could automatically act like that, and then once you click the tile, it launches the application.
Messenger by Miyowa?
I am using this and it looks nice so far. MSN only (ofc)
i thought palringo was coming to wp7 they were one of the developers that had intentions on developing for wp7
Looks like IM+ is coming.
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I came from the BBM world and our company has decided to use Live Messenger as a quick solution to chat between each other (I am the only non-BB user).
What is the best app for Live Messenger for Android/Nexus? There are so many to choose from, I dont need any special features other then for it to work reliably.
I would say WhatsApp
EDIT: I should have read the full post from the OP before responding haha
nvm..... .
ddemers said:
I came from the BBM world and our company has decided to use Live Messenger as a quick solution to chat between each other (I am the only non-BB user).
What is the best app for Live Messenger for Android/Nexus? There are so many to choose from, I dont need any special features other then for it to work reliably.
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Trillian, hands down, from my experience.
That said, coming from BBM I'd suggest using Kik as a replacement rather than Live Messenger.
people are going to have their favorites. I'm using kik and kakao.
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Thanks for the replies. Unfortuantly the company is not happy that I have abandoned Blackberry. I was actually waiting to move to WP7, but it was taking forever to get the Second gen phones to Canada, so I gave up after 4 months and decided on the Android Platform for various reasons.
This being said, the company is not interested in moving to a new platform and they would prefer to use WIndows LIVE (mostly because they dont know any different, all of us dont actually use any IM programs anymore). Also there are some people who are not very happy with me not being on BBM, so I am not really in a position to push for a different product people are not comfortable with.
So I am looking for a trouble free solution for me so i dont make any further ripples Personally I havet used MSN Messenger since back in College 10 years ago, so I am out of the loop with this stuff. I would rather go with something like Google+ or some social networking platform, but I am not really in a position to make the change right now.
I will give Trillian a try, however if anyone has any other suggestions, keep them coming!
Windows Live is awful. Try to get them to switch to GChat instead.