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Hi
A few months ago I was using BB Storm 2 and was alerted when ever someone posted on my Facebook or commented on something I had commented on
Does this do that too or is that just a BB thing
Thanks

Sounds like you're on about push alerts. Depending on who you believe v1.5.0 on the Desire was meant to include these but I've never had them so I'd say no it currently doesn't include them
You can set up you account to send you an email when those events happen but the app will only alert to messages, friend requests & event invites

So if its not included could I not just install the app

efcgenius said:
So if its not included could I not just install the app
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Yes, you can and there is a new version out today. But some people seem to get the notifications and some don't.

As an aside, the FB app is already on the Desire - just update it to v1.5.1 (todays update) via the Market
Not had any push notifications so far so doubt it's working...seems the BB/iPhone version are better than the Android one

I get push notifications for new messages,friend requests and event invites, but I had to set the app to never poll,rather than every 30 minutes etc. That should give you push notifications. But it's still quite limited, you don't get anything when someone comments on a photo etc.
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The only notifications I get every from facebook are when I get messages or friend requests. But most seem to be quite delayed at times, between when they're actually sent and when I get my notification on my phone.
Only downside to android is the lack of a good well working facebook app.

z4ppy said:
The only notifications I get every from facebook are when I get messages or friend requests. But most seem to be quite delayed at times, between when they're actually sent and when I get my notification on my phone.
Only downside to android is the lack of a good well working facebook app.
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Facebook need to pull their finger out their arse and actually make a decent app. Fair enough, it's harder to make an Android app than an iPhone app since there are loads of different models.... but still.
As for push notifications, they're suppose to work if you have 2.2+ but they don't.

theres a few 3rd party facebook apps that have push notifications

Why are IM clients still terrible on WP7?

I thought Mango was suppose to bring full support for IM clients? Yet IM+ and WhatsApp are still awful. WhatsApp is such an incredible app on iOS and Android, using it on WP7 makes me cry literally on what monstrosity they've created. I get a toast notification for a new message, I click it and it takes a good 3-4 seconds for message window to open (why not instantly?) and it takes nearly 10-15 seconds for the new message to appear. It's the exact same behavior in IM+. It's very laggy and very choppy and a far cry from the general smoothness of Mango.
So can someone tell me why this is?

Developers are human beings prone to imperfection. Give it time, allow them to learn the ropes of this new platform and iron out the kinks.

The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.

Peew971 said:
The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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I (and others) updated twice and still haven't lost WLM. The way I understand it, as long as you update and don't reinstall it stays there. But just in case you're unlucky I'm not telling you to go ahead and do it
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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I actually like having dedicated apps for IM, same for twitter. The only app I've stopped using is facebook because the implementation is quite complete in WP7.
I would say it's probably down to UI for me, I find IM+ easier to manage than the built-in messaging for whatever reason (same for twitter) but they really need to upgrade it to Mango.

Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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Agreed, the marketplace is depressing and the APIs were released ages ago.
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Agreed. Not sure what more MS could do to entice developers. They will even write your code for you ffs. We need developers to show some initiative, or will we have to wait for Windows 8 & WP8 integration to get it?

Purple11 said:
Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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How much faster could the app switching be lol
I say give it some time. I am expecting we'll soon see apps like the announced Skype, Tango, Spotify apps etc. Mango hasn't even reached 100% roll out yet. Perhaps too they're waiting till the Gen 2 phones launch in the US.
Just within the last few days apps like LastFM, iHeartRadio, Tunein Radioa and Vevo got background audio streaming, pinnable stations and yes fast app switching So I think the pace is fine in terms of current apps getting updated. New apps will come soon.

This is going off-topic now, but I can probably guess at why developers have been slow with updating their apps for Mango.
When Microsoft released the Mango tools, they told us (the developers) that once we updated our apps to Mango, then we wouldn't be able to update our NoDo apps. They changed that, but quite close to Mango release so there wasn't all that much time to get on and update.
It also takes time for developers to actually implement the new features and APIs into their programs.

Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).

@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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This is why the heck...firstly, I'm using my outlook account which tied to Australia region for my main account. While,my main account which is the one with all my messenger buddy is tied to my US. Therefore, I can't use the outlook account for messenger. And I even tried the following steps:
1)my main account is created few years ago, and it is tied to US. However, until now I still unable to change the live ID or merge with my current Australia account.
2)M$ don't support messenger for secondary windows live account.
3)tried to move all my active messenger buddy to outlook account,but M$ don't allow me to use live messenger on this outlook account. It keep showing error and need me the fix the password.
4)not willing to create a new live messenger account as I have spent around 30dollars on apps.

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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This ..
And lets not forget Mango has been available to developers for months now.. I think like 3 months already.
madmaximillian said:
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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It dosent have that functionality..

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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What lack of new apps? We're at 33k

madmaximillian said:
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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For most people the point of instant messaging is simply that it doesn't use text/ sms messages, it uses your data plan.

PG2G said:
What lack of new apps? We're at 33k
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your 'we have 33k app' rebuttal is like a toddler saying 'what game? i have rusty's poop to play with'..
here is my penny to keep you thinking and demand quality:
sms scheduler to automatically fire up and send sms on particular day and time.
call sms blocker.
dedicated agenda and appointment app. Pocket Informant.
a wallet app. code wallet pro.
last decent game which i didnt finish in a day was released on 5/18/11: plant vs zombies.
audio recorder to record incoming and outgoing calls automatically. resco audio recorder.
data monitor which records all ur wifi and data connection and gives a monthly/weekly/daily/yearly view. spb data monitor.
an app to collect total call duration peak/offpeak/weekends to warn when reaching calling plan limit. phone dashboard.

Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs

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Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs
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ya than stfu and dont tell people to look at your 33k apps.
apps after mango, apps after mango, microsoft will release APIs after mngo.. everyone had hopes on mango.. and now i dont know what APIs did they release.. because everytime i ask for any app i know the other person will come up with the same old 'oh thats not possible because MS didnt release that API..' bullshi*.
according to you the only apps developer can make with present API is to pin a tile and another RSS reader, combine it with flaslite and tip calculator and we have your 33K app you mentioned.

make facebook correct their app... so the contact sync works on ICS

Hi there,
Facebook put out their new app this week
unfortunatly, the contact synching is not working ...
i opened a request here : https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=1845593
maybe if the link is shared, and a lot of people ask for a fix, they would fix it ?

I thought ICS didn't support contact syncing with Facebook anyway? The feature seemed to come and go on my Desire depending on how frosty Google-Facebook relations were at the time.
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It's something that Google won't allow happen until facebook gives in to their demands. They demanded that it be programmed in a certain way and facebook said "screw you". So Google said, then your syncing no longer works.
It doesn't work on any Nexus phones that I know of...at least not directly from the official facebook app.

All Facebook has to do is use the Android Contacts API, which they so far are refusing to do.
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Chrono_Tata said:
All Facebook has to do is use the Android Contacts API, which they so far are refusing to do.
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All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.

MikeyMike01 said:
All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.
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How dare you talk about Google that way?
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pr3cision said:
How dare you talk about Google that way?
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Google is probably one of the least likeable companies around.
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What we actually have here is two differing philosophies about ownership of data.
Google believes your data is portable. They believe that once you import data, you own it, and you should be able to export it. If you give me your phone number, I know own that data. Example: If you decide you don't want me to have your number any more, you can't do anything about it. You can't make me forget it or tear up the piece of paper I wrote it down on. You shared it, I imported it, it's now mine.
Facebook disagrees with this. Facebook believes that the phone number only belongs to the person who's phone it is. They believe that if you share your phone number with me, I have to give it back and forget about it if you ever ask me to. Because of this, Facebook does not allow integrating contact info. They only allow Facebook contact data to exist "along side" your other data. So if someone unfriends you, you lose their contact info, picture, etc.
Google, on the other hand, recognizes that this is fundamentally stupid. If you share your data with me, I can keep it if I want, and I can export it to my contacts list if I want and if you don't like it then don't share it!
Facebook takes their position under the guise of maintaining that "only you should have ownership of your own data." But in reality they are enforcing the presence of Facebook if you want to use data obtained from Facebook. In essence, they are asserting that Facebook owns your data that you share.
This is another example of Facebook's dangerous philosophy about "openness." They call it open, but really it's Facebook in control. Meanwhile Google lets you pack up and leave and take your data with you any time you like....

screw you facebook....

rsox said:
I thought ICS didn't support contact syncing with Facebook anyway? The feature seemed to come and go on my Desire depending on how frosty Google-Facebook relations were at the time.
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i didn't know that, do you have a source ?
BTW the synching menu is there, but the facebook app get one error... so i guess its not really that google forbid something, but that facebook did an error...
I really don't belive google will play that kind of game, and make the android customer unhappy...
Android always gave their user the choice (see flash...)
if Android forbid Facebook sync, apple could use this...
and there are FAR more facebook users than flash sites

alain57 said:
i didn't know that, do you have a source ?
BTW the synching menu is there, but the facebook app get one error... so i guess its not really that google forbid something, but that facebook did an error...
I really don't belive google will play that kind of game, and make the android customer unhappy...
Android always gave their user the choice (see flash...)
if Android forbid Facebook sync, apple could use this...
and there are FAR more facebook users than flash sites
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You can google for this information pretty easily. Facebook and Google has had this high-profile fight since earlier this year.
Google is obviously trying to put the pressure on Facebook to be more open with their data, but not really succeeding since probably over 90% of Android users aren't even affected by this anyway. Most OEM flavours of Android such as Sense and TouchWiz still support Facebook syncing. If you want Facebook syncing with your People app you can use an app like FriendCaster instead.
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When you say contact sync, do you mean that you can see Facebook statuses in the People app? If so, wouldn't it be easier to just go to Facebook app? You can do/see much more stuff (Facebook-related) in the Facebook app than in the People app.

I dont know about Nexus, but I have HD2 and CM7 ROM and everything syncs....so I suppose stock ROM on Nexus doesnt support facebook syncing but others do/will

luffyp said:
When you say contact sync, do you mean that you can see Facebook statuses in the People app? If so, wouldn't it be easier to just go to Facebook app? You can do/see much more stuff (Facebook-related) in the Facebook app than in the People app.
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Most people want contact syncing with Facebook as a lot of people list their phone numbers in Facebook and to pull profile pictures from Facebook to use as contact photos.
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MikeyMike01 said:
All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.
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Lol @ you
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Chrono_Tata said:
Most people want contact syncing with Facebook as a lot of people list their phone numbers in Facebook and to pull profile pictures from Facebook to use as contact photos.
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Unless they fix it you can use this program if you want the pictures youll just have to add the contacts info from facebook yourself
Google Contact Sync

This actually disappeared in a Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for the Nexus S back in February or March, IIRC. Probably not at all surprising therefore that it's not in ICS

The Nexus One still supports this feature, even with the latest Gingerbread update from Google. The latest CyanogenMod ROMs also still do this on the Nexus One. I believe that Google's reasoning there was that the device came with the ability, so they would allow it to stay.
I really wish Facebook would just update their app to use the proper API. I used SyncMyPix and it worked well enough, but it would be nice if Facebook could just do it properly.
A word of warning about Friendcaster... all info I could find says that Friendcaster pulls all your (possibly hundreds of) Facebook friends into your phone's contacts. I didn't want this. I only wanted to sync with my existing contacts, like I was able to do on my Nexus One. SyncMyPix did this pretty well.

MikeyMike01 said:
Google is probably one of the least likeable companies around.
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What on Earth are you talking about? lol
From the customer perspective: They get nothing but rave reviews.
From a personnel perspective: They get nothing but rave reviews.
Their employees love them, their customers love them.

matt2053 said:
What we actually have here is two differing philosophies about ownership of data.
Google believes your data is portable. They believe that once you import data, you own it, and you should be able to export it. If you give me your phone number, I know own that data. Example: If you decide you don't want me to have your number any more, you can't do anything about it. You can't make me forget it or tear up the piece of paper I wrote it down on. You shared it, I imported it, it's now mine.
Facebook disagrees with this. Facebook believes that the phone number only belongs to the person who's phone it is. They believe that if you share your phone number with me, I have to give it back and forget about it if you ever ask me to. Because of this, Facebook does not allow integrating contact info. They only allow Facebook contact data to exist "along side" your other data. So if someone unfriends you, you lose their contact info, picture, etc.
Google, on the other hand, recognizes that this is fundamentally stupid. If you share your data with me, I can keep it if I want, and I can export it to my contacts list if I want and if you don't like it then don't share it!
Facebook takes their position under the guise of maintaining that "only you should have ownership of your own data." But in reality they are enforcing the presence of Facebook if you want to use data obtained from Facebook. In essence, they are asserting that Facebook owns your data that you share.
This is another example of Facebook's dangerous philosophy about "openness." They call it open, but really it's Facebook in control. Meanwhile Google lets you pack up and leave and take your data with you any time you like....
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What a load of crap. Google masquerades their bull open policy too. They're both self absorbed companies fighting over who gets to steal your information.
Facebook is sitting on the mother load of personal information and Google wants to get at that information.
Google put a wrench in Facebook's app in a shameless attempt to push Google+.
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Please help! Frustrated with messaging.

I have searched high and low for a good means of messaging my friends on their Apple devices. They of course want to use nothing but their default Messenger app, and as much as I like Google Voice, it doesn't support pictures or MMS.
I've tried imo.im on both devices with Google Talk, but it's proven to be a bit of a pain, particularly on the ios side.
I'm now looking at all other options, such as Kakaotalk (though I'm in the USA), Facebook Messenger, Skype, and so on. My Nexus 7 is wifi only, and I do not own or use a cellphone (so TabletTalk and Whatsapp won't work).
Considering all of that, can someone please point me in the right direction of a good app or solution?

I just use Google Voice, all my Ipad friends have no problems with it. You do need to get a GV# for best use.

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I just use Google Voice, all my Ipad friends have no problems with it. You do need to get a GV# for best use.
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So far that's been the best solution, but I can't send or receive photos, which is something a lot of my friends and family do.

elias4444 said:
So far that's been the best solution, but I can't send or receive photos, which is something a lot of my friends and family do.
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Can you get them to use something like Kik? cross-platform, send receive photos, etc.

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Can you get them to use something like Kik? cross-platform, send receive photos, etc.
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Possibly. It was like pulling teeth to get them all to try IMO.im, and because that didn't go well I'm guessing any other client I ask them to install had better be downright amazing. I was looking at Kik, Skype, Kakaotalk, or possibly Facebook Messenger (though I was worried something like Facebook Messenger or Google+ Messenger would make conversations publicly accessible, which annoys me). Any specific opinions on which would be better?

I use Tango to chat with my fiancé who has an iPhone. Video chat works seamlessly as well. That's what I would suggest.
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bellerophon90 said:
I use Tango to chat with my fiancé who has an iPhone. Video chat works seamlessly as well. That's what I would suggest.
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Oh wow... Tango looks pretty awesome! I didn't see it because it's under the Social category of the Play store rather than the Communications category like so many of the others.

Ok, this thread is now officially a Tango vs Kik discussion! I think it's between those two. Any opinions?

elias4444 said:
Ok, this thread is now officially a Tango vs Kik discussion! I think it's between those two. Any opinions?
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Lol... Or not. My wife didn't like Tango. Though a few of my friends and family apparently use google+... Any opinions on using Google+ Messenger?

AW: Please help! Frustrated with messaging.
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Lol... Or not. My wife didn't like Tango. Though a few of my friends and family apparently use google+... Any opinions on using Google+ Messenger?
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I don't trust G+ messenger anymore.. A lot of messages weren't delivered, and sending pictures is a pain in the *** I'm also searching a good messenger for me and my friends.. But there's none for me ATM. I tested every single one, like, 1000 companies got my contacts and numbers now, but nothing was good. The best, was kik, but, it's so.. Clean, too clean for me.. Sending pictures on kik is awesome and fast, also, it's the fastest messenger, even if you kill the process it still boots fast without any loading screen.. But it has like none features.. Just the standard ones.. Also it has a few.. Idk, weird things like when I receive a message from "mike" only, and open it, it goes to the contact list instead of the conversation... A no go for me.. Kik needs to grow with features, even tiny ones like what I've mentioned above.. But if you can live with a clean one, here you go, dolphinetly kik.
Oh.. I wrote a lot lol ^^
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You could also use Textnow, it gives you a texting number that can recieve pictures, it's also bubble formatted messages like modern messengers (similar to iphone's) . As long as you use your number once in 90 days,it's yours forever. They've also added voip calling, but i think you have to pay for minutes on that.

I use hangouts to chat from iOS to nexus to OS X
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You talk to people who use iOS devices...?
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GroupMe as a Cross Platform Chat
Hi I would suggest GroupMe.
https://groupme.com/
They have apps for almost any platform. You can do simultaneous log in with one account.
One group chat allows up to 50 participants.
Cheers

New Hangouts 2.0.012

Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
https://www.copy.com/s/vRBrzPCxDE9i/Hangouts.apk

sheltrack said:
Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
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Awesome, working perfectly! Been waiting a long time for this

Thanks, working well!
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I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration

The best person to answer those questions would be yourself...since it seems you have experience with iMessage whearas we just got the app.

wizzbang3 said:
I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
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Well first off, hangouts is still technically part google talk which was an online messaging service, so the online status will still be incorporated in the app unless they take the code out and re-do the app.
And iMessage probably had its advantages in the past when messaging plans weren't unlimited but doesn't have any advantages really unless you want to know who has an iPhone and who doesn't. And since I don't have kitkat I wouldn't know if it enhances hangouts or not!
Don't think google screwed up. They did exactly what they wanted to do.

Got 2.0.018 apk?
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Thanks bud! Works great over here

I installed the Hangouts 2.0 apk the other day on my Verizon S3 running 4.1.2 and it's working perfect except I am missing one person's contact picture. He has a picture in my contacts app. Anyone else run into this?

Is anyone group chatting with iPhone users? The main screen shows all participants, but in the chat thread all messages are showing one avatar / name.
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Thanks dudes!!
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Finally!!!!
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Works great. Thanks bunch :good:

Awesome, I need to d/l this when I get a chance.