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[Q] No IM Client yet for WP7???

It's been 1 week now since I started my new love affair with WP7. I must say, I am very impressed and I do not miss OS 6 on my dethroned BB at all. I got the Mozart for the spectacular camera and because that flip stand on the back of the HD7 is just a recipe for headaches when it starts popping off.
Anyway the only thing I am longing for is a nice IM client that can at least handle Yahoo Messenger. I've been reading about all the hype on "Cross Talk" having the power to give WP7, Oldphone and Android the ability to have Blackberry Messenger and Facebook Chat...It has been 5 months since it was first spotted and mid last month I read that Cross talk is built and good to go pending for the release of the first WP7 device. Now that 5 of them are out, where is it? Another myth maybe?
I'm sure the first developer who gets a decent IM platform up in the marketplace will have a pleasant Christmas!
It's been a week without BBM or any IM on my phone, there is only one so called "Messenger" in the Marketplace which is a Live Messenger Knock off but it's useless....it doesn't even alert you or show an icon when someone sends you a message unless you have the app open therefore it only works if YOU are the one initiating the chat thread or if you want to keep opening the app every 5 minutes to check.
Other than my aspirations for a working IM client, WP7 is just an absolute killer! Love the UI and how graphics run through the screen. It is by far the easiest...OS to learn from scratch!

Hopefully eBuddy will add their own messenger to WP7 as they seem to be one of the most popular ones on Android.

Mate, anything is better than nothing at this stage hahaha.
I know it's too early to expect that much from WP7 but then again in previous years almost every new OS that came out had at least a couple of IM options right away.
Let's see...

WP7 doesn't have support for sockets in 3rd party apps right now which is pretty crucial for IM clients.

yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.

qilong said:
yes, very disappointed with WP7 that they didn't come with their own WLM and needed to use very buggy plus unstable Messenger by miyowa
hope Whatsapp, Beejive can come out with their IM on WP7 asap.
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They do have their own client... and it should be in the market place by now...
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/09/30/messenger-and-msn-applications-coming-to-windows-phone-7/

I hope there's actually a first party UIX-based client coming. The MSN protocol supports multiple points of presence, so you could keep your phone and your home computer online simultaneously.

personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5

Anything that doesn't require yet another account creation would be good, but I much prefer IM clients from the Vendor (i.e. Yahoo, AIM, WLM client from Yahoo, AOL, Microsoft).

deadwrong03 said:
personally im waitin on cross talk and palringo hopefully palringo brings the option to automatically run as soon as the device powers on like it does on windows mobile 6.5
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technically this will never be the case with windows phone 7 as the start screen is the only thing that will show. However, in saying that, the makers of palringo can come up with a live tile which could automatically act like that, and then once you click the tile, it launches the application.

Messenger by Miyowa?
I am using this and it looks nice so far. MSN only (ofc)

i thought palringo was coming to wp7 they were one of the developers that had intentions on developing for wp7

Looks like IM+ is coming.
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Facebook Notifications: Not Getting Any?

So the subject says it all. I'm new to WP7 (not new to tech by any means)... Maybe I missed something obvious but I can't find it.
I had two notifications. But- my phone told me of neither of them by itself. I had to open the app to see them.
We're talking they were a good 45 minutes old, too.

TexUs said:
So the subject says it all. I'm new to WP7 (not new to tech by any means)... Maybe I missed something obvious but I can't find it.
I had two notifications. But- my phone told me of neither of them by itself. I had to open the app to see them.
We're talking they were a good 45 minutes old, too.
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The FB app does not support live tiles and push notifications and neither does the people hub, so yeah u need to open the FB app to check out updates.

You can turn on email notifications in your FB Account. Than you will get an email for New Messages or something Else.
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Yeah its very lame. BB and Android have notifications.
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goldenpipes said:
Yeah its very lame. BB and Android have notifications.
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iPhone does as well but my experience with them has always been sporadic at best

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I note on the Facebook for Windows Phone Facebook page, they've promised a new version with "features that [we've] been asking for".
It seems it has gotten delayed, probably owing to the recent messages bug, but maybe - just maybe - this may support notifications through the OS or a live tile?
The notifications issue, along with support for FB chat, seems to be the biggest request on there, so we might be in luck.
Casey

Casey_boy said:
I note on the Facebook for Windows Phone Facebook page, they've promised a new version with "features that [we've] been asking for".
It seems it has gotten delayed, probably owing to the recent messages bug, but maybe - just maybe - this may support notifications through the OS or a live tile?
The notifications issue, along with support for FB chat, seems to be the biggest request on there, so we might be in luck.
Casey
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yeah the App is definitely gonna support chat, toast notifications and live tiles for sure. Its just a matter of when.

goldenpipes said:
Yeah its very lame. BB and Android have notifications.
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BB and Android OS have been around for longer than 5 months.

It should be supported natively with the rest of the Facebook features.
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DatDereX1 said:
BB and Android OS have been around for longer than 5 months.
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Your point being?
Live tiles, or rather "at a glance" was the big selling point for WP7. Sure, you get "at a glance" information galore for the people pinned to start but not being notified about messages on FB is weak - should definitely have been in the app from day one. Not to mention they still need to sort out the scrolling issues.

emigrating said:
Your point being?
Live tiles, or rather "at a glance" was the big selling point for WP7. Sure, you get "at a glance" information galore for the people pinned to start but not being notified about messages on FB is weak - should definitely have been in the app from day one. Not to mention they still need to sort out the scrolling issues.
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need I remind you that fb push notifications didn't come till last august on android? Let's be real, android's FB before last summer was a piece of crap compared to the apple platform..and even then there were some bugs till fall of last year...and android's been around since 08...and it still doesn't go without bugs...with toasting or push notifications
I mean i admit the facebook xap is paltry and has a lot of issues in coding which should be corrected but I say give it time

I can't believe that the Microsoft-coded stuff (even Facebook app) wouldn't have Live Tiles or push support. That one surprises me more than anything on WP.
However- I never recall my iPhone not supporting Push and doing it well.
Android was certainly sketchy, even after running 2.3.
Right now my best "solution" seems to be as suggested and setting up email notifications.

emigrating said:
Your point being?
Live tiles, or rather "at a glance" was the big selling point for WP7. Sure, you get "at a glance" information galore for the people pinned to start but not being notified about messages on FB is weak - should definitely have been in the app from day one. Not to mention they still need to sort out the scrolling issues.
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My point is that this is not a mature OS and I think (hope lol) MS will add that feature in the future. There's a lot of things that could have been added from day one, but MS wanted to focus on the most important features and making sure they work perfectly before implementing them.

TexUs said:
I can't believe that the Microsoft-coded stuff (even Facebook app) wouldn't have Live Tiles or push support. That one surprises me more than anything on WP.
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Not really suprising. They didn't even launch with Copy and Paste...
However- I never recall my iPhone not supporting Push and doing it well.
Android was certainly sketchy, even after running 2.3.
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Android supports PUSH well. All of Google's services are pushed, and let's get real... Google didn't add C2DM (their PUSH service) until Android 2.2.
Facebook Chat is pushed on Android, and it's as fast as ever. I know because my Vibrant is going off everytime I'm having a Facebook Chat conversation in Widnows Live Messenger/Facebook.com . I also get all of my Facebook Notifications (Posts/Replies/Messages) really fast.
Flory on WP7 has fast Push/Toast/Live Tile notifications, but the application takes so long to load and/or resume that it's virtually useless. Since the first day I've installed it, I've never gotten it to load my contact list for GTalk or Facebook again... So I uninstalled...
I have my Facebook Background Sync interval (Both in the App, and in TouchWiz/SocialHub) set to 12 hours so I know it's not polling, BTW...
Right now my best "solution" seems to be as suggested and setting up email notifications.
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The biggest issue I have is that it's clunky, waste data and battery life (downloading emails uses way more battery power than getting a Push Notification) and is simply impractical for people with busy Social Networks. Do you REALLY want 30+ Facebook emails a day? 1 Hour or more less battery life (these smartphones are already working overtime trying to provide decent battery life)? People with low data plans won't want to do that, either...
Also, on other platforms you get to set different Notification Ringtones for Different Applications, which let you know whether or not you need to even bother looking at the phone when something comes in.
Microsoft needs to implement this.
For me, personally, the Push Notifications isn't that big of an issue (Toast), but a Live Ticker on People Tile would be good.
The biggest issue is that People Hub is a gimmick. It's nothing but a glorified RSS feed for social networks. It doesn't support Facebook Messaging or any of that, only posting and replying... That's why if you are a Facebook user you still need the Facebook application installed on your phone. People Hub barely passes for an alternative, if it does at all... It is too functionally thin to be truly useful and the fact that it doesn't update its information in the background makes it not really worth using over the Facebook application which does much more and has a better user experience.
WP7 has really good voice recognition (at least for English) and Bing is good now, so there's hardly a need to open the People Hub when you can just "Call PersonX Mobile/Work/etc." and the phone gets it done faster than you could if you went through the contact list (if it is of factorable length/size). Hell, the other day I just said "Call Pizza Hut" and it got the city right and everything. One less number in my contact list

domineus said:
need I remind you that fb push notifications didn't come till last august on android? Let's be real, android's FB before last summer was a piece of crap compared to the apple platform..and even then there were some bugs till fall of last year...and android's been around since 08...and it still doesn't go without bugs...with toasting or push notifications
I mean i admit the facebook xap is paltry and has a lot of issues in coding which should be corrected but I say give it time
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Google didn't implement C2DM on Android until FroYo.
Facebook Getting Push on Android in August means they were very fast in implementing it after Google added C2DM, which destroys your argument/excuse/justification.
When you cut through the spin, Facebook was fast as hell at getting Push Notifications to Android, and Launched Facebook chat in that client as well.
I simply don't think they wanted to implement their own Push Solution, with 500+ million users... It't just too much. Better to use a native solution and and allow Android/iOS/WP7/BB users get their stuff pushed through Google/Apple/MS/RIM instead...

DatDereX1 said:
My point is that this is not a mature OS and I think (hope lol) MS will add that feature in the future. There's a lot of things that could have been added from day one, but MS wanted to focus on the most important features and making sure they work perfectly before implementing them.
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Facebook integration was, according to MS, a very important feature. Since the FB app is a MS commissioned app you would expect them to have taken full advantage of their, so called, killer features.
My point here isn't so much that it's a missing feature but rather that it's a missing feature which has all the necessary building blocks available for use - and they decided not to utilize them.

Maybe I'm wrong but I swear that WeatherBug Live Tile is updating itself. I'm going to consciously not open it and see if it updates again this morning. If this is true: why can't other apps do this?
As far as the people hub, I don't use it much. Alot of it is as I've already said... None of the apps cache data. That sucks. These apps should be able to poll and cache in the background, but they don't. The People Hub is one such app. I might as well use the Facebook app.
I can see the People Hub having some use but as you said, it seems more like a replacement to Facebook... And unless it has the full functionality of the Facebook app, why use it?
I also agree with your statements on Flory. It never loads my contact list. Maybe I'm not patient enough- but it doesn't even matter... If it takes more than 15 seconds to load it, it's useless.
I must say one thing I miss from Custom ROMs... Headphone amp. I listen to a podcast that, when I'm driving 75mph- you can't freaking hear it with the volume on the radio and phone all the way up. On a Custom ROM I had a headphone amp that I was able to crank it up and hear it with plenty of extra volume. I sorely miss this.
A question... How do I voice dial/search? I realize if I go into the search- I can hit the mic button and do it from there. However from the main screen, holding search does nothing. ????????????
Also... On large contact lists, how do I scroll to say, the M's? I cannot figure this out at all. On Android/iPhone you have a alphabet on the right and you slide your finger down it to the letter you want.

Important information for IM+ users, upcoming update comes with Sophie's choice

I know there's already a IM+ thread but by posting there some people might miss the information.
v1.4 has been submitted to Microsoft and should hit very soon. It adds the following features:
- Significantly improved contact list scrolling and overall application performance
- Push-to-Email option allows incoming messages to be forwarded to your email
- Autoreply feature will instantly notify your contacts that your are in Push mode
- ICQ / AIM / AOL / iChat group chats
- ICQ contacts can now be added into your AOL/AIM/iChat contact lists and vice versa
- VKontakte and Yandex IM services are now supported
However Microsoft has requested the removal of MSN/WLM from the app .
I know it will be redundant with Mango but fact of the matter is Mango hasn't been released yet so that's really ridiculous.
So there's your Sophie's choice: update to v1.4 to get the new features or decline the update to keep MSN/WLM.
Info taken from IM+ facebook page.

Or Mango is really close (;

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Or Mango is really close (;
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Well even if that was the case that doesn't make right for 2 reasons:
1) Mango will come after the IM+ update in any case and even if Mango was released tonight some people might have to wait for one or two months to get. In the meantime, being able to use MSN/WLM on IM+ would be fair.
2) What about consumer's choice? It's like Google banning you from using any RSS reader because they already offer you Google Reader. That's really ridiculous.

Yeah, I agree with you.
Still, it's your choice to update or not. Don't update if you really need it.

As long as I can continue to Skype, all is good. Hopefully it'll be a lot faster. Thanks for the info.
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Can someone confirm that WLM still works in the new version 1.4 is you are already signed up for Windows Live in the APP??

Just got the update, there is AOL/AIM/ICQ and iChat group support, though WLM is no longer available.
I'm only using WLM for facebook chat because its better than the web fb chat, and since most of my contacts in WLM doesn't go online too often, I can hold off until mango release.

Someone on a thread said you don't lose WLM if you were already signed in in v1.3, can anyone confirm this?
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Instead of adding new features they should fix the abysmal skype performance (connecting and background connect time). The way IM+ works is near useless at this time.

Peew971 said:
Someone on a thread said you don't lose WLM if you were already signed in in v1.3, can anyone confirm this?
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If you visit IM+'s facebook page, it says there that if you still want to use WLM on IM+ then do not update to 1.4.
Although I was with 1.2 did not receive any 1.3 update so not sure if WLM was in 1.3, but I can confirm that I had WLM in 1.2 and jumped to 1.4, and WLM account is no longer there, and contacts aren't showing up.
http://www.facebook.com/plusim/posts/10150336729461005

i am on Mango and also on IM+ 1.4 AND I HAVE msn/WLM contacts shown there...

That's odd... I don't get it.
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Any new news on Skype for mango?

Does anyone have ANY updates on the Skype app for mango?
I haven't heard anything but I'm thinking they're going to release it when they release mango to the GP and begin their media blitz.
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Mushroom management courtesy of Microsoft...

Yes, what happened to Skype on Mango? And also, what happened to Google+ on WP7?

People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.

tiny17 said:
People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.
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they said skype APP will be released this fall. So far no announcements have been made

Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.

FiyaFleye said:
Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.
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Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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jallenashley said:
Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places

FiyaFleye said:
I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is Facebook places. And it's not gonna be replaced by anything else. I don't remember the articles about it completely, but what I actually do recall is, that Facebook is not gonna abandon the places feature. They're just changing something about it. Whatsoever they change, it doesn't have any impact on the check-in functionality of Windows Phone.

They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.

RoboDad said:
They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.
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According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.

skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.

dkp1977 said:
According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.
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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.

FiyaFleye said:
I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is FB places. Sorry guys... I just saw the WP logo and assumed it was a Bing check-in.
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Back to the original point though, this would be much more useful as a Foursquare check in lol

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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.
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I honestly wish I could remember where exactly I read about it. I think it was WPCentral. Not too sure though, sorry. :/
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Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.

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Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.
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Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.

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skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.
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hmm i cant find many or and thing cool, maybe we shoudl start a thread on it

Skype will show up when we have devices with front cameras.

RoboDad said:
Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.
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Lots of people use Foursquare daily. I used to use it several times a day, even tho I didn't know anyone else who used it.
I don't think they should waste time on Foursquare integration. Time would be better spend integrating DMs and FB Offline Messages into the Messaging or Email Hub, IMO.
I think they should have put a different pane in the Email Client with an option for us to Auto-Filter emails from integrated Social Networks into that, so that those of us who want faster (consistently faster) notifications could send them to email and get them fast. People Hub still doesn't support PUSH from what I've read/seen and since Hotmail/the email client doesn't support Labels like GMail it's a real ***** to organize stuff... Really, really, annoying.

Most missed feature...

Here's the thing...I am planning on making my next phone either the new Nokia or the Focus S pretty much whichever releases first. I came from a 3gs and now have a Captivate and I want WP7 users to tell me the top things they miss from their previous OS...whether it be Android or IPhone. I am pretty much trying to figure out what I am going to be giving up in the switch to WP7. Thanks for any replies and no trolls please lol.

I think in general you'll be gaining a very trouble free, polished, and well integrated experience, while giving up more customization and a giant marketplace. i think coming from ios and android the biggest things you'll miss are your apps, if you were a big app user.

Notifications. WP doesn't show your notifications in one place like Android or even a popup like ios. You have to have the app pinned the home screen. If you have a lot of apps this could get annoying
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Oh and no google apps on WP. No Gmail no maps no voice. Not official ones anyway
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I know I lose words with friends but i'm sure there is a replacement of some kind in the app store plus xbox live integration will even that our for me (hopefully). Missed calls and messages are really the only important notifications I need. I do use gmail as my main email tho so will that cause any problems? Also how does bing maps compare to google maps? Nokia drive looks really nice if I go that route. What about any kind if visual voicemail? Any alternatives to google voice?

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I know I lose words with friends but i'm sure there is a replacement of some kind in the app store plus xbox live integration will even that our for me (hopefully). Missed calls and messages are really the only important notifications I need. I do use gmail as my main email tho so will that cause any problems? Also how does bing maps compare to google maps? Nokia drive looks really nice if I go that route. What about any kind if visual voicemail? Any alternatives to google voice?
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You see icons/numbers for missed calls, messages, emails on the lock screen and on the live tiles and there are notifications for all of them.
You can use GMail with the mail client (IMAP), also Google Calendar works fine. I am not sure about Bing Maps in the US but here in Austria it's useless. But there is a good (free) unofficial Google Maps app. Visual voicemail is only supported by some carriers.

Gurgs said:
Here's the thing...I am planning on making my next phone either the new Nokia or the Focus S pretty much whichever releases first. I came from a 3gs and now have a Captivate and I want WP7 users to tell me the top things they miss from their previous OS...whether it be Android or IPhone. I am pretty much trying to figure out what I am going to be giving up in the switch to WP7. Thanks for any replies and no trolls please lol.
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abysmal support for instant messaging apps. That's my only gripe.

Words by post is the alternate. Its superior to words with friends imo
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I came from WM6.5. I miss the bluetooth support. WP7 does not have SPP, so no external bluetooth devices will work, only bluetooth headsets etc. I can't use my bluetooth external GPS. Since my LG has a really poor GPS, this really bites.
Other than that, I really like the WP7 experience now that Mango is out.

Big issues for me compared to IOS.
- Lack of apps. The big ones like Facebook have been ported, but little ones (like language learning apps and dictionaries) - forget it.
- Lack of games. Always playing with my ipod touch, never play with my WP7 phone. Not enough good titles.
- No audio scrubbing in music player. Can't fast forward properly or jump around in tracks - makes it useless to for playing podcasts/audiobooks. Still have to use my ipod for listening to language CDs.
- Poor support for podcasts imported from Itunes. They appear in random order, also much prefer itunes to zune.
- No way to backup a WP7 phone. If you lose your phone or have to upgrade your firmware, wave goodbye to all your save data, settings and sms messages. You'll also have to manually re-install all of your apps.

karan1203 said:
Words by post is the alternate. Its superior to words with friends imo
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Is words by post cross platform? WP7 -> iPhone? My wife has the 4s and that would be great...

Notifications, Swype (I like typing with one hand), screen orientation lock and LED flash light app.
Other than that, there are little limitations here and there that will probably be addressed in the future updates.

topkop said:
Notifications, Swype (I like typing with one hand), screen orientation lock and LED flash light app.
Other than that, there are little limitations here and there that will probably be addressed in the future updates.
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Is there only one choice for keyboard in WP7? If so how does it compare to stock keyboards on other platforms?

Gurgs said:
Is there only one choice for keyboard in WP7? If so how does it compare to stock keyboards on other platforms?
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There is just 1 keyboard with Windows Phone 7.
I used to use Swype with Windows Mobile.
The keyboard for Windows phone 7 does have autmatic corrections and word suggestions. It ends up being just as fast as swype.
I have a quantum, which also has a real physical keyboard, which is nice when typing a long email.
No issues with the on screen keyboard. It works very well.

Aphasaic2002 said:
- Poor support for podcasts imported from Itunes. They appear in random order, also much prefer itunes to zune.
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Actually, podcast handling is one of the things I like in Windows Phone! I used to download podcasts using ITunes and using Zune to sync to the phone. There is an easier way.
Now I have the phone automatically download and manage the podcasts itself (without using a PC). The phone downloads podcasts automatically when it is plugged into power and connected to Wifi. I've set it to keep the last 5 episodes of each podcast - works great so far and less hassle than launching iTunes every day!
More details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286101

Gurgs said:
Is words by post cross platform? WP7 -> iPhone? My wife has the 4s and that would be great...
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Words by Post is on WP, Android & iOS so yes.

Audio and Video Scrubbing. How this was missing in 2010 let alone 2011 just doesn't make sense.

Gurgs said:
I know I lose words with friends but i'm sure there is a replacement of some kind in the app store plus xbox live integration will even that our for me (hopefully). Missed calls and messages are really the only important notifications I need. I do use gmail as my main email tho so will that cause any problems? Also how does bing maps compare to google maps? Nokia drive looks really nice if I go that route. What about any kind if visual voicemail? Any alternatives to google voice?
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YouMail has an app called Magikmail that work as a Visual VM replacement unless AT&T gets its act together.
Bing Maps works very well for everything except a decent driving GPS, but a $5 app called Turn-by-Turn directions fixes that for me.
Missed calls and Messages- you'll have no problem at all with the very good notifications on the tiles for those, as well as the notifications on the lockscreen.
There are a few GV apps in the marketplace that work decently well.
Words with Friends alternatives- Alphajax and Words by Post
Other than that, I miss the LED notifications and being able to have a lastpass plugin for my browser. Overall, not really much that I miss from the other 2 options and a lot to like in WP7 over them.
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Aphasaic2002 said:
Big issues for me compared to IOS.
- Lack of apps. The big ones like Facebook have been ported, but little ones (like language learning apps and dictionaries) - forget it.
- Lack of games. Always playing with my ipod touch, never play with my WP7 phone. Not enough good titles.
- No audio scrubbing in music player. Can't fast forward properly or jump around in tracks - makes it useless to for playing podcasts/audiobooks. Still have to use my ipod for listening to language CDs.
- Poor support for podcasts imported from Itunes. They appear in random order, also much prefer itunes to zune.
- No way to backup a WP7 phone. If you lose your phone or have to upgrade your firmware, wave goodbye to all your save data, settings and sms messages. You'll also have to manually re-install all of your apps.
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Some good points here. I have only found 1-2 apps that I miss, but won't argue there are some things I'd like to have.
Haven't been upset by the audio issue- FF and REW work just fine for me. What am I missing that's so amazing?
Podcasts? No way- iTunes is horrible. Zune isn't that much better. Why use either? Just have the phone do it without needing to sync to either? Way past the iOS paradigm here.
Somewhat agree on the backup. Zune does do a backup when you do upgrades, but I think there's no way to do it otherwise. Annoying. And yes, until the Skydrive API is really more available, there aren't good methods for saving app data... but when it is, it'll be better than the other 2, assuming MS doesn't screw it up massively.

Well the Focus S coming out in two weeks pretty much answers which phone i'm getting. And this thread makes me realize i'm not giving up much of anything to leave Android, not to mention not having to flash a new ROM on my phone every week to keep up with the times lol

I think that the only things i miss from Android are...
•Tethering (new phones have it though, and possibly my HD7 via an update)
•TV Listings for Android (how is it that there is not a single app that can display all my US/Puerto Rico channel listings with shows and times? no... not a show tracker, i mean a full TV Guide)
•Adobe Flash (slow, buggy, laggy... but i could watch anything on the web )
•USB Mass storage (although i wonder why? come to think of it, i dont use it that much)
Still, the good FAR exceeds the bad here and my next phone will still be WP7 for sure!!! Titan or Focus S maybe (why TMO gets the crappy one???)