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I hate to admit it, but my Nexus is a little laggy

I have a live wallpaper on, but it still shouldnt be that laggy. My sensation could handle a lot that was thrown at it without being all that laggy. Even with live wallpaper off it's a little laggy. Keyboard in landscape mode? Laggy. Swipe from one home screen to another? Laggy.
Any fix for this!? I just can't wait until CM9 now to fix all this stuff!

I don't know man. I came from a Sensation (running CyanogenMod 7) and the Nexus blows it out of the water in terms of speed and smoothness...and the Sensation was pretty ****in' fast running stock Android.

Well I still think my Nexus is better. I love it to death! But the sudden lag kind of kills it. I don't know what the deal is either.

I read some of the live wallpapers are laggy but not all of them
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Hi monkey hung
I too noticed some laggyness to begin with the Live Wallpaper turned on. Sounds like your last phone was an iPhone 4?
I've been playing around with settings and have a few concepts on what might be going on:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
2. Disable your Live Wallpaper, I did, it saved battery life and things are much snappier.
3. Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
4. I've noticed that dragging my finger along the screen does not give the same smooth/matte feeling of the iPhone 4. As a matter of fact, it almost jitters/vibrates across the contour glass. If I touch with a less contact force, I tend to find the performance of touch screen to be smooth, rather when I apply more force it tends to jump across the surface of the screen creating a jagged touch slide. I've also noticed the higher sensitivity of the accelerometer. If you have a very steady hand you can see the extra performance, if you hand is un-steady, it almost looks worse than the previous phone, but in reality, it was simply my inability to hold the device in one spot that gave the poor performance, really this a reflection on how responsive the phone is to my dodgy movements.

Thanks but I had HTC Sensation with CM7. I think you must have mistaken when I made topic about my girl friend having an iPhone 4 haha

berglh said:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
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please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.

berglh said:
Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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I agree!
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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The rotation delay is intentional.
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I'm experiencing the same thing you are but the delay is intentional. If my screen was rotating all the time I would get really annoyed!

Also, the switching between 3G and 4G is intentional. 3G uses less battery... it kicks over to 4G when you're actually using the data connection.
My galaxy nexus is almost perfectly responsive. It lags on occasion, but I find it to be much smoother and more responsive overall than just about any other android device I've used. (including the galaxy S II)

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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If your phone is laggy, then it's probably something on it you're running that isn't optimized for ICS. My phone runs just fine and easily outclasses any other phone I've used (and I've used pretty much every high end gsm phone that has come out here in the states). FYI your data isn't "fading from hspa to 3g", the phone idles on UMTS and when it's transmitting data it goes to hspa. This is very normal. Do a search on it if you want to know more.

kwazi said:
please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
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Wow, we are really going to miss that 6 MB with the 1 GB available to the GN. My last phone was an Xperia X10 with only 384 MB of RAM, yes it was chuggy, but comparatively this amount of allocation is small and the feature seems to work well thsu far. I hardly think they are going to miss it, but your point on the Development Settings is valid to a certain degree.
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By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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I would rebut this by saying that most of my paid apps either don't work at all or don't work correctly due to the fact I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich prior to turning this option on on my own phone. There are many other reasons that apps are going to fail, particularly on Android. In retrospect, a disclaimer to this effect might have been appropriate considering the ramifications of the advice, and I direct this at hung monkey:
If you are not smart enough to draw the correlation between enabling the 2D acceleration and most of your apps suddenly not working, then you should probably not turn it on.
I have turned it on, it fixed the laggyness of the default Live Wallpaper, I haven't tested how much it saps the battery yet. Turning it on has only resulted in an improvement to my phone thus far.

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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From what I read about your "laggy" screen rotate. That is intended so it doesn't accidentally change orientations.

matt2053 said:
This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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Don't be so sure that it doesn't. For example, if I load a relatively heavy game in to memory, such as Pocket Legends or NFS Shift, and I multitask, the app is suspended. I can use the app selection menu to resume that app, and quite quickly I might ad, much faster than the time it takes for the game to load in memory.
If I then kill it with the Task Switcher, it then has to load from the start, like the suspended session was terminated when I removed it from this list. Even Google themselves said that if you like to manage your apps, then this is how you can end them, but ICS will do a good job of managing it for you anyway, the controls are there if you want them.
This behavior does not match your allegation, would you please care to shed some light?
Cheers!

I concur with the Op - the phone by comparison with my Samsung Galaxy S2, it does seem a bit laggy when scrolling between screens - I have everything setup exactly the same way as on the SGS2.
I'm not technical but I can only hope that these reasons of laggyness come down to the apps,etc. haven't been optimised for ICS yet?
When scrolling up and down the twitter, facebook or google reader apps, it just isnt as smooth as the Galaxy S2 or even the Galaxy S1.
Otherwise, very beautiful UI.

Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.

case0 said:
Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
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I agree! This phone lags really bad with all the live wallpapers except for the Phase Beam one. TURN THEM OFF and its by far the smoothest phone.....lol

I use wp clock and havent noticed any lag versus having it off....

Samsung Galaxy Nexus GSM LAG when scrolling and texting?

Well, I've had my phone for a little over a week and I'm realizing lag when scrolling in the app drawer. its not extremely laggy, but its just not super smooth. When I also text really fast it also lags which is really hard to type. I turned of auto correction I think it fixed the problem, but I'm not 100%. Anyone of you experiencing this?
Oh forgot to mention do you guys hear static when you have the volume really high?

I don't have this issue but I am also using the force gpu rendering option. Everything is smooth and fast.
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What lag? Haven't seen lag since day one of having the phone. Doesn't matter what ROM or on stock. Smoothest Android experience yet.

zephiK said:
What lag? Haven't seen lag since day one of having the phone. Doesn't matter what ROM or on stock. Smoothest Android experience yet.
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Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?

I dont have lag when typing in text. But many people have complained about stuttering in the app drawer.
But i use handcent since day 1 for texts...

yiannisthegreek said:
Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?
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Well, I was able to fix lag while texting by disabling auto correction in the settings. it seems many people are having that issue, but my phone is pretty fast opening and closing programs.
RogerPodacter said:
I dont have lag when typing in text. But many people have complained about stuttering in the app drawer.
But i use handcent since day 1 for texts...
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Yeah, if i scroll really fast during the app drawer i notice lag, a little choppy lag, for most people many might not notice it. But I do, i think because i'm so used to my 120hz monitor when I used a 60hz monitor I notice just by moving around a window. I might be picky, but there is lag without a doubt in this phone or atleast my phone.

Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.

MilkPudding said:
Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.
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I have the Force 2D Rendering switched on and I STILL have these issues. Im not the OP but I thought Id mention it...

MilkPudding said:
Read what the 2nd reply says dude.
Unless you just want to complain/troll and ignore possible solutions.
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i already did it. i don't notice an improvement.

Different roms behave differently. Mine was pretty smooth but I've noticed lag on APW scrollable Widgets and flicking through the XDA on several roms. 4.0.3 helped but didn't fix.
Now I'm running Axi0m rom now which is 4.0.4 and there is no lag anymore. Much faster. I'm not over clocking or anything outside of the stock settings for that rom.
So I don't know if its 4.0.4 or the kernel/rom combination, but its a welcome addition. It uses Franco's kernel so maybe it was fixed there?
I DONT have Force 2D enabled either. FYI. Realistic answer.
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yiannisthegreek said:
Ive had the completely opposite experience... I too experience "lag" when typing, choppy scrolling, slow opening / running apps, etc... OP, I have the same issues as you do. Please advise if you were able to fix them and if so, what steps did you use?
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+1 I own LTE Nexus I have been suggested to flash stock then root again.. i'm backing up my data right now so thank god I am not the only one...

Don't listen to people telling to "Force GPU rendering", they don't know what they're talking about (Launcher2 already uses GPU rendering).
The slight stuttering when scrolling the app drawer is a known bug, reportedly fixed in firmware > 4.0.2 and it also didn't seem to happen in 4.0.1.

zapek666 said:
Don't listen to people telling to "Force GPU rendering", they don't know what they're talking about (Launcher2 already uses GPU rendering).
The slight stuttering when scrolling the app drawer is a known bug, reportedly fixed in firmware > 4.0.2 and it also didn't seem to happen in 4.0.1.
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^^^^ This.
Wth is with ppl saying to force gpu rendering, it only works in apps that don't make use of gpu rendering.
The UI in ICS is rendered completely by the gpu so checking/unchecking that option does NOTHING to the UI.
That myth needed to be put to bed.

nodstuff said:
^^^^ This.
Wth is with ppl saying to force gpu rendering, it only works in apps that don't make use of gpu rendering.
The UI in ICS is rendered completely by the gpu so checking/unchecking that option does NOTHING to the UI.
That myth needed to be put to bed.
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You guys seem to know your game so how come it still lags in 4.0.3?
for some weaird reason it seems to be stable for me right now... I did check force gpu and 4.0.4 since it's unoffical there isnt any real fast roms for 4.0.4 thanks guys!

The first thing I do after a fresh ROM flash is change the animation scales to 0 in Settings>Development>window+transition animations. I also disable app drawer in/out animations in my launcher settings. The stock ICS animations are fairly obnoxious and much more pronounced than the GB animations. I do the same on my I9100 on CM9. Look at it this way, animations are wasted time, if they're a little over the top then it's more wasted time + more work. My GN is as smooth as my I9100 throughout its life; stock, modded stock, CM7, and CM9.

patt2k said:
You guys seem to know your game so how come it still lags in 4.0.3?
for some weaird reason it seems to be stable for me right now... I did check force gpu and 4.0.4 since it's unoffical there isnt any real fast roms for 4.0.4 thanks guys!
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If you go to nexus s forums you will see that a guy did benchmarks on all the roms available andstock 4.0.4 was the fastest, in fact the top 5 has 4 4.0.4 based roms.
give it a try and see how it is.

nodstuff said:
If you go to nexus s forums you will see that a guy did benchmarks on all the roms available andstock 4.0.4 was the fastest, in fact the top 5 has 4 4.0.4 based roms.
give it a try and see how it is.
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dont really want to give up all the AOKP options they are just amazing. I guess I will listen to the other guy and disable all animations and see if it looks better and wait for 4.0.4 rom

patt2k said:
dont really want to give up all the AOKP options they are just amazing. I guess I will listen to the other guy and disable all animations and see if it looks better and wait for 4.0.4 rom
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Well I agree completely with that course of action because that's what I do!
AOKP with Franco.kernel and animations off!
4.04 is just too stock for me right now.

nodstuff said:
Well I agree completely with that course of action because that's what I do!
AOKP with Franco.kernel and animations off!
4.04 is just too stock for me right now.
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I actually like it animations off.
So I am guessing we all are seeing delays in animations which look like lag? it so so much smoother right now. Will report later on.

DroidTheory's Axi0m CrossBreef rom is based on 4.0.4 leak but has all the functionality of AOKP M4 (merged).
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

[ROM] ICS 4.0.4 (IMM76D) Stock, rooted, busybox, battery%, deodexed (4-12-12)

This is 100% stock, rooted Ice Cream Sandwich I've made for myself and thought I would share. Contains su, busybox, nano and bash binaries.
Link:
IMM76D stock rooted busybox (odexed)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (No Battery% or Softkey Mod)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (includes Battery% and Softkey Mod)
Changes v1:
Deodexed
Optimized the system for much smoother UI
Updated Apps:
Market
Gmail
GoogleEarth
Maps
Added Apps:
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice
GoogleWallet
Changes v2:
Fixed issue with OS being laggy especially in Market.
Stock launcher 270 degree rotations by me.
Better transitions when rotating 180 degrees (more ipad like) by me.
1% Battery increments by he_stheone64.
Themed softkey buttons with ICS stock blue by atticus182.
Themed the rest of the UI so older older apps can have ICS theme (by unknown, didn't get the name. If you know who created let me know so I can credit them)
Removed: (why make it bloated?)
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice

Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...

gordon6 said:
Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...
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Whoops! forgot to add the link..

Good, exactly what I was looking for.
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OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..

Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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+1

Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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nenil said:
+1
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Thanks guys. I ended up getting an iPhone for about a year. It was a great phone but boring due to having no customization. This is my 2nd day with the Galaxy Nexus and I love it. Android has really come a long way since I last used it.
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Hi Geo411m,
Thanks for your effort, just like to confirm that is it a CWM flashable zip?
Thanks~!!

Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.

thanks kitinas.

damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing

Kitinas said:
Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.
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Did you wipe caches after install? This rom was created using the system image directly from google and therefore should work exactly as OTA. Not sure why the apn weren't there on first use.
kwazi said:
damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing
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I wasn't aware of the 4shared issue. I haven't done anything with android for about a year and don't know of other hosting.

Stock or AOKP
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........

universed said:
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........
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In my opinion I feel stock (with a few tweaks) offers more stability. I've seen too many AOSP give lots of FC/crashes and I rather have a working phone then have it crash while outdoors and you have to wait to get home to fix it.

My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!

GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??

robbiev80 said:
GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??
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I've always had 5-10 second lock on CM9; seems like mileage varies for some people for some reason or another.

dhruvraj said:
My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!
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I just updated the ROM with a much more optimized system. Let me know how it compares to AOSP.

May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.

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May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.
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I don't know what's in ARHD to compare. I made lots of changes to the build.prop for increased performance and made changes to the system to make android take advantage of the Nexuses GPU for better performance.
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I really love my Nexus but...

I really love my Nexus. Gorgeous, perfectly sized 720p display, super sleek black curved display with NO carrier branding or capacitive buttons, nice loud speakerphone & ICS is fantastic. Great things to love about the Nexus!
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
So I got to thinking, on older computers with slower processors - if you try and run youtube at 720p @ full screen, it gets super choppy and laggy. Then I compared that to the nexus. Its trying to push ALOT of pixels. Is a 1.35 ghz processor enough for the resolution it runs?
Would a 1.5 or 1.7 ghz phone run it normally?
Whats with the Lag???

Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.

Lol well I tried, enjoy Odin and touch wiz
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Google Play won't carry - it's not a Google phone. It will be sold the same way the Galaxy S2 was.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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This, also, maybe try running something other than AOKP for a while. Though its really customisable, it isn't exactly the snappiest ROM.
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
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roflmao. Google Play won't carry it. Its not a Google phone... It'll be sold by your local carrier or importer.
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EyeAndroid said:
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
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I'm bone stock 4.0.4 and don't have any of this lag you're talking of. Essentially perfect, very few noticeable moments of lag.

This phone isn't laggy. You're just doing it wrong.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Hmm well I have never tried the Trinity kernel, just thought everyone raves about franco so why switch? Didn't know the GPU would effect general performance. Always thought it was just for gaming. Trinity can be OC'd?

Too MUCH pRon

shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Ya man, never been a huge fan of the S2 due to the general design of the phone + I hate touchwiz and odin.
Yesterday I was fed up & Just put in an order for an HTC One S but then cancelled it today when I heard the speakerphone and saw how amplified the dots of the pixels really can get when you run Super Amoled on a 960 x 540 res.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Stock ICS.

Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?

I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!

earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?

HinotoriBR said:
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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You must not have Owned any HTC phones
"Surely you cant be serious??!?"
"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley"

earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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This is not at all necessary...

martonikaj said:
This is not at all necessary...
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Why do you say that?
(As i Just got finished downloading ATK)

EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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i have a SG2...getting my nexus delivered tomorrow so i started browsing the nexus section...
for starters on any android you shouldnt press home unless you are leaving the app for a brief moment and are planning on going back to it...home will keep the app running...you have to use the back key to close out of many apps (especially the ones that dont have a designated exit button)
app management is very crucial but auto killing isnt good for the system...android will close apps on its own as space is needed...however there are certain apps that are service hogs and eat up ram...i am somewhat of an app hoarder but i know which apps to keep and which to get rid of...normally if you have like 120mb of free ram or so a dual core phone shouldnt ever lag...if it lags its not due to memory
on my SG2 i have like 200+ apps but almost always have like 250mb ram free (even without a reboot for several days)...on the rare occasions that i feel it lag i check and sometimes i will see that it dropped down to like 80mb free...a quick reboot fixes it
its also good to reboot your phone every few days

I'm reading a bone stock sprint galaxy nexus. I have no lag at all. And I'm coming from an epic touch. In my experience custom rom's slow down after a while. Which is why I usually stay stock with root.

EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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You want to try to avoid automated task killers because they can lead to stability issues if they're too aggressive, and as an additional background process they have the potential to eat your battery life. The safest way to kill apps is just by swiping them away with the recent apps menu.
Google tries really hard to implement a good system of memory management in Android, the problem is just that developers don't really utilize it. You can clearly see the difference especially if you like to run alternative browsers or old games. All of the stock Google apps work great and I can keep them open forever, but if I leave StumbleUpon or Plants Vs. Zombies open in the background long enough my phone will start to chug.

Using Blackout ICS

I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?

Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...

Dbugger said:
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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Yes its noticeably better. Is this just me or have others found the same?
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I must say I'm getting good battery as well.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.

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Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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I was getting excellent battery life as well, but I suspect it might be killing my data connection when the phone is asleep.

Largamelion said:
You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.
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I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.

Swell6 said:
I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.
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Hmm, haven't really paid attention to that (I 'm mostly on WIFI). I 'll do a speedtest when I get the chance.
Edit: Did a quick test and I 'm getting 3,6Mb down / 1,6Mb up (inside a server room right now so not the best connection). Seems quite normal for my network (7,2Mb is max speed I can get from my provider). Of course the max HSDPA speed is alot higher but that 's something I cannot test.

Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo

trixo said:
Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo
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So after few days of testing here are my feelings :
Takeing account of deamon set to 1,2Ghz, i can still reach 1d and half near 2days without charging , with a light use :
Allways connected to network though HSDPA (as i take train it often check the network to change the connected cell)
Playing 20-30min 3times a days to Pirates of carabean (3D game multiplayer so connecting to the network)
Surfing a bit
no music
no video
With an harder use i reached 1d wake up to sleep:
still same network condition
playing double time at least (1 to 1,5h 3times a days)
Surfing more (1h)
no music an no video
using battery eater apps (windguru) a bit
to resume my feeling on battery is excelent, i've noticed a light improvement on idle battery drop, a bit accelerated over time (due certainly to used app remaining processes.
Let's go now to the issue i've noticed :
-Back tactil button doesn't work on phone screen while it works everywhere else
-Using smoth rosie to supersmooth show a light display trouble when reducing the app drawer windows (doubling the reducing animation)
-Light keyboard trouble doubling the A letter some time (like if the touchscreen has been typed twice when its not the case)
-blackout tweak shortcut from top task bar doesn't linked (need to go through the app drawer to access it)
-Folder creation missing from widget/app shortcut addition screen (or i didn't found it) , i use the moving app on another icon to create it (i don't know if it's the ICS new way of creating folder on desktop)
The plus i've found (don't know if it's an ICS feature) : create a folder in the lower task bar : can jump from 4 shortcut to full app contained in your phone accessible from the locked screen : I loved that !
The overall impression is really great and for an old phone that "doesn't give a good experience of ICS" following HTC, i feel this ROM fullfill my expectation from ICS on my Desire HD !
Many thanks to the Blackout team !
Br
Trixo

Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.

GLADS said:
Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.
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Haha.. very funny pub..
Btw, testing further again, i've found the sms issue (from my point of view it was linked to transferring sms not to content,) I'll give a try to the 3.1 to chek this out
I confirm the keyboard double "a" in certain text box, particularly in sms typing or web address typing
Lags linked to overclocking
Br
Trixo

Swell6 said:
I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?
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For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors

MrAhlefeld said:
For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors
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check for the "deamon" app in your app drawer

Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..

Imonol said:
Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..
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Yes. Some can't send at all. Some have data drop in and out while sending and some have no issues. Seems weird to me since the hardware is supposed to be the same for the most part. I think apn and radio combo has the most to do with it.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Love this ROM...
This ROM would be my daily driver if the Wifi hot-spot worked. Has anyone found a work-around or fix? Wifi Tether didn't work either btw. I know it's WIP by the devs but they said it wasn't a major priority for them (Boooooo lol) Fingers crossed for v3.2

As noticed recently in the official thread, i've also noticed the magical battery jumps, i first guessed it was linked to the battery calibration wipe i've done before to flash the Blackout3.0 rom, but i can sometime still see this trouble also.
It happen even phone is in use but every time inbetween 30 and 5 percent of battery left. it goes down to low then readjust it to an higher value without any reason.
The phenomen come back lately less often, but maybe devs can check this out. I'm running on a SFR Desire HD recognized as an incredible S on the 3.0 rom.
BR
Trixo