I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
Dbugger said:
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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Yes its noticeably better. Is this just me or have others found the same?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app
I must say I'm getting good battery as well.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.
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Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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I was getting excellent battery life as well, but I suspect it might be killing my data connection when the phone is asleep.
Largamelion said:
You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.
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I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.
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I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.
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Hmm, haven't really paid attention to that (I 'm mostly on WIFI). I 'll do a speedtest when I get the chance.
Edit: Did a quick test and I 'm getting 3,6Mb down / 1,6Mb up (inside a server room right now so not the best connection). Seems quite normal for my network (7,2Mb is max speed I can get from my provider). Of course the max HSDPA speed is alot higher but that 's something I cannot test.
Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo
trixo said:
Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo
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So after few days of testing here are my feelings :
Takeing account of deamon set to 1,2Ghz, i can still reach 1d and half near 2days without charging , with a light use :
Allways connected to network though HSDPA (as i take train it often check the network to change the connected cell)
Playing 20-30min 3times a days to Pirates of carabean (3D game multiplayer so connecting to the network)
Surfing a bit
no music
no video
With an harder use i reached 1d wake up to sleep:
still same network condition
playing double time at least (1 to 1,5h 3times a days)
Surfing more (1h)
no music an no video
using battery eater apps (windguru) a bit
to resume my feeling on battery is excelent, i've noticed a light improvement on idle battery drop, a bit accelerated over time (due certainly to used app remaining processes.
Let's go now to the issue i've noticed :
-Back tactil button doesn't work on phone screen while it works everywhere else
-Using smoth rosie to supersmooth show a light display trouble when reducing the app drawer windows (doubling the reducing animation)
-Light keyboard trouble doubling the A letter some time (like if the touchscreen has been typed twice when its not the case)
-blackout tweak shortcut from top task bar doesn't linked (need to go through the app drawer to access it)
-Folder creation missing from widget/app shortcut addition screen (or i didn't found it) , i use the moving app on another icon to create it (i don't know if it's the ICS new way of creating folder on desktop)
The plus i've found (don't know if it's an ICS feature) : create a folder in the lower task bar : can jump from 4 shortcut to full app contained in your phone accessible from the locked screen : I loved that !
The overall impression is really great and for an old phone that "doesn't give a good experience of ICS" following HTC, i feel this ROM fullfill my expectation from ICS on my Desire HD !
Many thanks to the Blackout team !
Br
Trixo
Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.
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Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.
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Haha.. very funny pub..
Btw, testing further again, i've found the sms issue (from my point of view it was linked to transferring sms not to content,) I'll give a try to the 3.1 to chek this out
I confirm the keyboard double "a" in certain text box, particularly in sms typing or web address typing
Lags linked to overclocking
Br
Trixo
Swell6 said:
I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?
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For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors
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For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors
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check for the "deamon" app in your app drawer
Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..
Imonol said:
Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..
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Yes. Some can't send at all. Some have data drop in and out while sending and some have no issues. Seems weird to me since the hardware is supposed to be the same for the most part. I think apn and radio combo has the most to do with it.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Love this ROM...
This ROM would be my daily driver if the Wifi hot-spot worked. Has anyone found a work-around or fix? Wifi Tether didn't work either btw. I know it's WIP by the devs but they said it wasn't a major priority for them (Boooooo lol) Fingers crossed for v3.2
As noticed recently in the official thread, i've also noticed the magical battery jumps, i first guessed it was linked to the battery calibration wipe i've done before to flash the Blackout3.0 rom, but i can sometime still see this trouble also.
It happen even phone is in use but every time inbetween 30 and 5 percent of battery left. it goes down to low then readjust it to an higher value without any reason.
The phenomen come back lately less often, but maybe devs can check this out. I'm running on a SFR Desire HD recognized as an incredible S on the 3.0 rom.
BR
Trixo
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Is anyone else having very, VERY slow performance when running the latest version of Android? When I tried the original builds, it was very snappy but crash prone. Now with the latest version of Android (and all the bells and whistles) it seems like it is just too much for my Tilt 2.
Is my phone an anomally or is this typical for the later builds of Android?
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Is anyone else having very, VERY slow performance when running the latest version of Android? When I tried the original builds, it was very snappy but crash prone. Now with the latest version of Android (and all the bells and whistles) it seems like it is just too much for my Tilt 2.
Is my phone an anomally or is this typical for the later builds of Android?
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If you mean FRX03 build, i confirm that here low performance.
they shouldnt make it HDPI
but i dont care. using Neopeek for 6 months now
There is often a server process that takes up 100% of cpu. Usually you can kill the process and speed up your rhod by
1 - making a phone call
2 - opening up map and places
The devs are working on it. Its reported to happen more with frx03, so if its really bothering you, try frx02.
Also I'm not noticing this with latest kernels, so you could give that a try as well.
Hawk.
Sent from my FRX03 using XDA App
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There is often a server process that takes up 100% of cpu. Usually you can kill the process and speed up your rhod by
1 - making a phone call
2 - opening up map and places
The devs are working on it. Its reported to happen more with frx03, so if its really bothering you, try frx02.
Also I'm not noticing this with latest kernels, so you could give that a try as well.
Hawk.
Sent from my FRX03 using XDA App
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Interesting because on my Sprint TP2 I have had to make a phone call on every boot in order to get it to run smooth...never had to do that until the last few kernels...
Mine runes pretty good, very fast and smooth.
the only problem i have is the battery life, it wont survive over night at 100% charge.
i have a t-mobile tp2
good luck.
When my phone i charging is experience very low performance. When typing a sms it will take around 5 minutes to complete. But when i'm not charging it's working great.
To kill your apps use advanced task manager. You can select apps and it will kill it automatically and will kill it self when you exit it.
Don't overclock, it will save you a lot of battery.
Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J
Here is what i did:
- Install ES Task Manager and add the widget and run it often. (Make sure to add the apps to the ignore list that you do not want to close)
- Remove as many widgets as possible from screen
- Install LauncherPro (It speeded things up a hell of alot for me)
- And most importantly, if your SD Card has a lot of stuff on it (Music etc) then delete as much as you can. The less on your SD Card the faster it will be.
I've Tried that...
Hey, before I wrote this, I tried formatting the phone and did a factory reset, the menu STILL lags and jitters quite a bit. Surely this isn't supposed to happen on a fresh version of the phone with NO user junk on there? and I've heard that task kilelrs are bad for the system, usually doing more damage than good.
Do you have anything on the SD Card?
I am not sure about that, the task manager on mine seems to be very good, i have stopped it from closing important apps which need to be open though.
Hmmm
No i don't have much on the SD, olny the files that the phone adds itself, i tried removing all of my user data already, still no sucess.
Try the task manager if you wish. It works perfectly fine for me and i have been using it for months.
OK
I just tried the task manager... made a little difference, but the menus still lag!
Try turning Auto Sync off for a while too... I am unsure why the menus are lagging. Mine seem fine. What menus lag?
The one where you tap the arrow in the bottom left, and all of your apps are on one page lags the worst. sometimes scrolling on the home screen too.
install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..
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install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..
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Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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What sort of setup do you have on your phone? What apps etc?
I don't have any performance issues with my stock DHD. I even have a bunch of widgets too.
Sent from my Desire HD
Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?
I don't think they did.
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Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?
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Yes, I have seen the lags in my 3 weeks old DHD. It is very annoying and I don't understand why HTC doesn't address the issues and only focus on new product development.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
dr.m0x said:
Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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same here, i`m using stock rom 1.72 flashed via RUU, OP maybe try to back`up your rom and flash a custom rom like revo or leedroid and see how it is...
ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.
jmohik said:
ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.
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That is what I thought too! I think its your provider. Especially when getting new phone from the same provider and the laggs are still there. I would suggest to try another Rom. Clean from such ****ty provider Stuff.
Sent with my DesireHD using my Brain
Jord-22 said:
Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J
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I have 1 month old DHD, no lag so far on ordinary use.
But i notice 1 think that make it lag.
When i browse internet, HSDPA & 3g signal no problem, but when Edge signal, than lag start to happen, some time its hang few second!! & my DHD start heating warm under battery..
Even tho i click usb debug, stil lag.
Only way to make sure its not lag is to use only HSDPA & 3g signal while browse..
I use stock rom, no root.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I know that CM7 is a great rom, but are there any cons or known bugs in everyday usage?
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It's stable and has a good battery life, I haven't encountered any bugs and judging by the change log RC1 has everything solved except 720p recording which isn't even a stock feature but an improvement.
I'm curious also, so you're saying every feature that works on stock (minus motoblur) will also work as it should (or better) under CM7 ?
There's nothing like no wi-fi or gps not working or anything at all ?
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I'm curious also, so you're saying every feature that works on stock (minus motoblur) will also work as it should (or better) under CM7 ?
There's nothing like no wi-fi or gps not working or anything at all ?
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I use Wifi daily, and have tested GPS briefly - no problems for me. I've actually found Wifi to work better than in my original t-Mobile 2.1 ROM.
for me have one con - the dialer without number t9
always i have to using contacts to make a call..
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for me have one con - the dialer without number t9
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There are plenty of dialers on the market. I opted for Dialer One, though it's quite an overkill, all the options it has. Ray Dialer is cool as well, a bit lighter and faster. Both have T9 and are free even.
Main bug is flicker when recording video... jumps when playing back as well.
But it's got awesome battery life and speed!
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A very good thread!
So far, we always heard about pros on CM7. Now, we can get opposite info in one thread. It's good for developer and user. Long live to CM7!
It's better than the stock roms in every way.
My quadrant on UK stock 2.2 was 900. On CM7 it's 2200
Gallery (4 photos then crash, no picasa albums), facebook (did not sync properly) and unexpected 100% processor usage -> battery drain are other reasons to ditch stock roms and go fo CM7.
The defy is a fantastic phone, once you take the motorola software off it!
Olly
Gusar321 said:
There are plenty of dialers on the market. I opted for Dialer One, though it's quite an overkill, all the options it has. Ray Dialer is cool as well, a bit lighter and faster. Both have T9 and are free even.
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i know that, but i spoke one con of CM7... almost others roms have this function and i don't know why haven't on CM7... should be have a option to enable/disable... how knows in future releases... ;D
cm7 is realy great
its best
thx very much Quarx
i hope Quarx make cm7 for atrix too
i recently installed rc1 and the only bug ive noticed is laggy video recording (playback is flawless - not the laggy recorded one - even in hd). and when booting in android, launcherpro force closes, but after a restart it works fine. cm7 is really a superb rom, would never go back motos ****ty sw...
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Aside from poor camera and video recording performance, CM7 is better in every way than moto's ROM. I'm sure quarx and co. will fix those bugs real soon.
CM7 is the best ROM running under Android 2.3.4 but it's main problem is the battery consumption (it's just draining two, even three times faster than Froyo) In other every aspect, it's just awesome.
This is why I get twitchy about installing anything.
Person A says ' oh the battery life is awesome'
Person B says 'its got a big battery problem'
Who to believe....
Been using CM7 for more than a month already I think. I started with Beta6. Currently on a nightly earlier than RC1. Only a few things that I noticed that are not so good.
- Camera quality is not as good
- Video camera recording skips frames
It seems like most issues are with the camera. Speed is good with CM7.
I noticed that if battery life is not as good all that is needed is to check that you have the correct baseband set and to reboot the phone if you already have the correct baseband.
I have never had any issues with wifi or 3g so far. GPS I dont really use.
Hope that helps
Caveat emptor: It makes your Defy runs faster and more updated and deny you the opportunity to explain to your spouse the rationale of buying a new phone every 12-month.
Man, isn't that hideous?
Hmm no one else reported any GPS issue, so I guess it's just me. It's not able to find and lock my position. Will have to look into it. Currently on Beta 6
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This is why I get twitchy about installing anything.
Person A says ' oh the battery life is awesome'
Person B says 'its got a big battery problem'
Who to believe....
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mine battery life is great
if u set network on 2g
use auto task killer
and display time out to 15 sec
and with normal use . battery use about 2.5 - 3 days for mine
The bugs I found are the auto brightness not stable & video recording can't turn on the flash light,others all perfect for me,including battery life(same as Froyo) & GPS locked within 10s under clear sky
*I am using full sbf from the official Froyo 2.2 SEA18,just flash the RC1 & gapps then good to go
I finally rooted my desire Z a couple of weeks ago after deciding I've had enough of the poor performance and Sense always having to reload after I exited an app.
So I installed AudacityB5 rom and at first it was looking good, good performance, pretty snappy! ALOT better than my old stock htc sense.
But now after having installed alot of the apps I used to have plus a few new ones(aorund 34 total) i'm noticing a drop in performance, not so fast and snappy all the time and the launcher have had to reload a couple of times...
So I have contemplated if I should just downgrade to GB to see if that helps or is there something I can do to improve performance on my current setup? (cause I really like the look and feel of android 4.0)
EDIT: I searched a bit before this and I've been reading about v6 supercharger and multitasking mods and whatnots... can anyone explain to me what this is all about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Thanks! I actually spent the last half hour reading up on that rom and came to the conclusion that it might be what I was looking for. So I will try that soon!
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So, I've been using the mimicry rom for a little while now and it's a definite improvement I'd say.
But I am experiencing an annoying fault, and I'm not sure if its the mimicry rom or a fault with ICS itself. But I can't download or receive mms even though apn settings are ok. Now I can't even send mms... Any help as to what might be wrong?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=163373682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=163373840
Yeah read all those threads, nothing helps, does jellybean experience the same problems? I'm gonna try a sense rom and a JB rom and if none of those helps its back to cm7 I guess...
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Have used flinnys jellybean build now, and at first it was the same problem there, unable to send mms, but then i just chose "reset to default" or something like that and anfter that it has worked.
Are these settings stored in the sim card or does the phone download them from some place or what? Because the apn settings are basically the same as what is on my providers (OneCall) website except for the apn names which is the same as the network name, "networknorway"
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Try Flinny Andromadus CM10.1 (jellybean 4.2.2). I highly recommend it, it transforms the phone. Lots of new features plus it's faster. DL the latest build here: http://andromadus.flinny.org/?q=node/34
remiks3 said:
Try Flinny Andromadus CM10.1 (jellybean 4.2.2). I highly recommend it, it transforms the phone. Lots of new features plus it's faster. DL the latest build here: http://andromadus.flinny.org/?q=node/34
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Yeah, I've been using build 20 since friday now, it does seem faster than build 19, still some lag from time to time but then again it's an old phone so
I'm in a similar situation to the OP, wondering what settings and modifications I can enable/install to get some extra performance out of my Desire Z. I'm running Flinny's Andromadus CM10.1 Build 19 (updated from a fresh install of 17 w/ full wipe, unsure whether that matters) and while it's certainly useable I often find my phone slowing to a crawl or throwing me "Application Not Responding" notices, sometimes even locking up to the point where the screen is stuck on black and battery removal is required. So far the only settings I've changed are the CPU min/max, currently set to 368 and 1200 respectively using the Interactive governor.
I've read through multiple threads with multiple suggestions and conflicting opinions, so I wanted to check here before doing anything drastic. So far I've seen suggested:
• Increasing VM Heap size (not sure if this would positively or negatively impact performance considering the Z's limited RAM)
• Creating a swap partition on the SD card
• Forcing 2D GPU rendering
• Setting a limit of ~2 for backgrounded apps (tried this, but didn't remember setting on reboot)
• Using a utility to move apps to the SD card
• Enabling Kernel Samepage Messaging
• Changing the I/O Scheduler (not sure what this would really do, or which one would be best for performance)
...so which ones do I do? All? None? Play around and see what works best for me? I really don't care about multitasking all that much, all I'm looking for is a more fluid UI and less application lags/lockups/freezes.
Thanks in advance for the help, by the way! I've become very attached to the hardware of my Desire Z and would like to get as much use out of it as I possibly can.
I know reducing the number of background processes to 2 or 3 makes the phone supper snappy for me. Without that I'm experiencing the same issues as you are. However, this setting causes certain background processes to halt and hence background notifications from apps such as facebook might simply seize to function properly.
I've been struggling with the issue of responsiveness, apps not responding, sluggishness, etc. ever since I started flashing custom ROMs on my G2 (so basically since day 1, somewhere in 2010). Alas, setting the hard, low limit for background processes is the best workaround I managed to find so far. I tried Supercharger (helps just a tiny bit), creating a swap partition (makes the phone even slower), kernel samepage messaging (no difference), changing VM heap size (no difference), and other possible solutions and hints I found here and there.
Cheers
tommern said:
I finally rooted my desire Z a couple of weeks ago after deciding I've had enough of the poor performance and Sense always having to reload after I exited an app.
So I installed AudacityB5 rom and at first it was looking good, good performance, pretty snappy! ALOT better than my old stock htc sense.
But now after having installed alot of the apps I used to have plus a few new ones(aorund 34 total) i'm noticing a drop in performance, not so fast and snappy all the time and the launcher have had to reload a couple of times...
So I have contemplated if I should just downgrade to GB to see if that helps or is there something I can do to improve performance on my current setup? (cause I really like the look and feel of android 4.0)
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Actually, regarding the downgrade, I did it and I am very impressed with the result, a fresh install of CM 7.2: Looks great, is really lag-free and responsive. I don't feel I have lost anything significant by not having the latest Android. Maybe this is also going to change over time, but for now it looks like something to be recommended.
yahya69 said:
Actually, regarding the downgrade, I did it and I am very impressed with the result, a fresh install of CM 7.2: Looks great, is really lag-free and responsive. I don't feel I have lost anything significant by not having the latest Android. Maybe this is also going to change over time, but for now it looks like something to be recommended.
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I have considered it a lot recently!! Performance has been very sluggish, but I just upgraded from b20 to build 21 of flinnys 4.2, and wow, I'm seeing around 80-115mb of free ram, we'll see how it holds up over the next few days :fingers-crossed:
If it gets laggy again I'll probably downgrade too...
Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?
Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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Compizfox said:
Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP
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Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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It's not like it is "draining apps". The problem only appears when the screen is on and I use the apps actively. If the phone is so slow that I can't get the screen back on, most of the time it 'recovers' again when I wait for 30-60 minutes with screen off. Off course I don't have the time for that so I hard-reset it.
So I don't think Greenify will do anything in my case.
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
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It doesn't matter whether I'm using WiFi, 2G (GPRS/EDGE), 3G (UMTS) or HSDPA.
Second, it doesn't look like the problem happens with internet access in general. It more happens with certain apps. For example, I can stream video's from Dropbox perfectly. In that case I both have heavy CPU/GPU usage (because of the video decoding/playback) and heavy internet traffic (because I stream from Dropbox), but I have no problems.
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna try that. Thanks for your help!
Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
Compizfox said:
Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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All those things: NO... For OC and schedulers U can use NoFrills CPU Control or SetCPU or anything you will find... for statusbar tweaks, Ignorance ROM have additional flashable zip that offers centered clock + normal/% battery and right-side clock + normal/% battery... for RAM tweaks, you can flash ksm.zip from myONEv 9.5 thread or Triple Swap from here... as I remember Nova Launcher have softkeys settings
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Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?
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It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?
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xtreme turbo bosster ?
The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.
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The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.
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That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.
MameTozhio said:
That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.
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you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.
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you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.
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The fastest and cheapest (low mobile data usage ) browser is Opera Mini... and I haven't seen any bugs in it :good:
i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..
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i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..
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Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.And the UI isn't that ****ty new one, it's the one from the old symbian days, the look that actually worked.
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Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.
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the stock browser is spot on versus opera mobile classic,but its a very close second. to bad opera went off on the deep end with that new crap they have up on the play store. even the apps icon sucks.
I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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rostamiani said:
I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store
parkourz said:
There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store
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Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en
rostamiani said:
Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en
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I don't understand, I was seraching it for 20min with no results
Opera was good only in Symbian. In Android it's buggy. One browser is good.
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