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Hello, Newbie to Android world here - receiving my HTC Desire, hopefully, next week.
Just wanted to share some information regarding an application called "LiveProfile" which will soon be released that incorporates BBM for Androids, if im not mistaken.
Anyone heard of it?
Just looked it up and from what I can see its a replacement for bbm. It will work across iPhone, blackberry and android. Basically MSN messenger for phones.
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I've been using a BlackBerry for practically 2 years now and I have to say perhaps the only application that has the BB stand out among its rivals is the BlackBerry Messenger - now with LiveProfile, I'm very excited for the upcoming release of this app.
What's the advantage of this over WhatsApp or PingChat? Those are both multi-platform already, and with WhatsApp there's no need for a user name as it uses your phone number, so anyone in your contacts with the application is automatically in your friend list.
Yeah, why another one? ... PingChat is OK.
I know, competition is good.
But for this kind of app, I just want ONE ...
It seems impossible.
Wait until someone created multi of multi IM of multi IM ...
PingChat is a good one.
MJwitter: well, quite frankly, i believe there is one prime advantage over iphone's Whatsapp in terms of privacy. With "whatsapp" you do not necessarily have to have the contact on your list, just as long as he has your number he is able to send you msgs - which a lot of people would find annoying (you could probably ignore them, im not sure, but its a terrible feature initially)
gogol + lukehluke: i have never heard of ping chat before. i'll have to google it. However, as i have mentioned earlier i believe this application is intended to merge bbm, whatsapp and so on all under one roof - again I am uncertain of this information; however, hopefully this turns out to be the advantage of LiveProfile.
Nonetheless, thank you for sharing that information.
I just checked it out; however it seems to display an error when i clicked on "Join Now." Is this application not yet released?
there are quite a few BBM replacements available. They will never connect to BBM Contacts but provide the same functionality.
1. PingChat
2. Cnectd
3. LucidMessenger
4. Pmessenger
those are all i know of atm.
I'll try ping chat on HTC, just as soon as I get it by next week.
I heard about Pmessenger, but the reviews weren't very good.
Is WhatsApp ever coning out for android?, ive tried to convert a few people over to ping chat but they all use whatsapp
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
LOL try to be patient, my friend.
Ive been trying to do that for the past 24 hrs too. fortunately, a few ppl installed it.
however,they dont need to "convert" to pingchat, ask them to install it and they could use both ;D
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
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Pingchat and Whatsapp? call themselves 'SMS Replacement' apps. Wherein they act like BBM so you can send a message whether a person is online or offline. These apps can only be used between their respective clients i.e. Pingchat-to-Pingchat, Whatsapp?-to-Whatsapp?
IM clients connect through AIM, MSN, Facebook &c.
Whatsapp Beta works. Google up Whatsapp android beta and youll find a download link on a facebook page. Install it and then you may get authorization error just wait like 1 day and try again and it will work. Been working well cant find any bugs with it yet.
I tried what you said but only info seems to say the beta is only available for people living in san fansisco and whatsapp put the app on your phone from there office?, cant seem to find a download link or apk file, if you have a link can you post it or reply to me with a pm to the link please, thanks.
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Ok i found it
http://beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
It installs fine but doesnt seem to work as you need to register to be a beta tester.
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yea like i said install it it will fail just wait and try again tommorow and it will start working. lots of people have reported success after waiting a while
Cool, i'll update in a day or 2 if its working, did you email them to request to be a beta tester or just try it after a few days and it worked without emailing them?
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Didn't send an email
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Cool, its started working.
Ok, my quick review - pingchat vs whatsapp
Its alot faster than pingchat in terms of messages being delivered, sometimes pingchat lags a very long time and also pingtchat soelmetimes doesnt give notifications unless you open the app, so whatsapp wins on those two.
But pingchat has a MUCH better look and feet to it, and it works on phone numbers & ID's so you can use either, but whatsapp only works over phone numbers, so unless i have the persons phone number i cant message them on whatsapp, but on pingchat you can just use there id and dont need there phone number so pingchat wins on that.
So both have goods & bads, ping chat is free though which is a plus, if you check in the account info in the whatsapp beta, it says it expires in November 2010, so i asume thats when it goes live in the android marketplace, it also has an upgrade option so it will definatly be a paid app when its released and have a limeted free use period
More people use whatsapp so its better "at the moment", but pingchat has a much better feel to it, so hopfully more people start using pingchat.
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I know there's already a IM+ thread but by posting there some people might miss the information.
v1.4 has been submitted to Microsoft and should hit very soon. It adds the following features:
- Significantly improved contact list scrolling and overall application performance
- Push-to-Email option allows incoming messages to be forwarded to your email
- Autoreply feature will instantly notify your contacts that your are in Push mode
- ICQ / AIM / AOL / iChat group chats
- ICQ contacts can now be added into your AOL/AIM/iChat contact lists and vice versa
- VKontakte and Yandex IM services are now supported
However Microsoft has requested the removal of MSN/WLM from the app .
I know it will be redundant with Mango but fact of the matter is Mango hasn't been released yet so that's really ridiculous.
So there's your Sophie's choice: update to v1.4 to get the new features or decline the update to keep MSN/WLM.
Info taken from IM+ facebook page.
Or Mango is really close (;
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Or Mango is really close (;
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Well even if that was the case that doesn't make right for 2 reasons:
1) Mango will come after the IM+ update in any case and even if Mango was released tonight some people might have to wait for one or two months to get. In the meantime, being able to use MSN/WLM on IM+ would be fair.
2) What about consumer's choice? It's like Google banning you from using any RSS reader because they already offer you Google Reader. That's really ridiculous.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Still, it's your choice to update or not. Don't update if you really need it.
As long as I can continue to Skype, all is good. Hopefully it'll be a lot faster. Thanks for the info.
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Can someone confirm that WLM still works in the new version 1.4 is you are already signed up for Windows Live in the APP??
Just got the update, there is AOL/AIM/ICQ and iChat group support, though WLM is no longer available.
I'm only using WLM for facebook chat because its better than the web fb chat, and since most of my contacts in WLM doesn't go online too often, I can hold off until mango release.
Someone on a thread said you don't lose WLM if you were already signed in in v1.3, can anyone confirm this?
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Instead of adding new features they should fix the abysmal skype performance (connecting and background connect time). The way IM+ works is near useless at this time.
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Someone on a thread said you don't lose WLM if you were already signed in in v1.3, can anyone confirm this?
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If you visit IM+'s facebook page, it says there that if you still want to use WLM on IM+ then do not update to 1.4.
Although I was with 1.2 did not receive any 1.3 update so not sure if WLM was in 1.3, but I can confirm that I had WLM in 1.2 and jumped to 1.4, and WLM account is no longer there, and contacts aren't showing up.
http://www.facebook.com/plusim/posts/10150336729461005
i am on Mango and also on IM+ 1.4 AND I HAVE msn/WLM contacts shown there...
That's odd... I don't get it.
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Does anyone have ANY updates on the Skype app for mango?
I haven't heard anything but I'm thinking they're going to release it when they release mango to the GP and begin their media blitz.
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Mushroom management courtesy of Microsoft...
Yes, what happened to Skype on Mango? And also, what happened to Google+ on WP7?
People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.
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People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.
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they said skype APP will be released this fall. So far no announcements have been made
Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.
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Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.
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Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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jallenashley said:
Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is Facebook places. And it's not gonna be replaced by anything else. I don't remember the articles about it completely, but what I actually do recall is, that Facebook is not gonna abandon the places feature. They're just changing something about it. Whatsoever they change, it doesn't have any impact on the check-in functionality of Windows Phone.
They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.
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They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.
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According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.
skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.
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According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.
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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.
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I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is FB places. Sorry guys... I just saw the WP logo and assumed it was a Bing check-in.
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Back to the original point though, this would be much more useful as a Foursquare check in lol
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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.
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I honestly wish I could remember where exactly I read about it. I think it was WPCentral. Not too sure though, sorry. :/
@FiyaFleye
Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.
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Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.
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Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.
mango apps available?
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skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.
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hmm i cant find many or and thing cool, maybe we shoudl start a thread on it
Skype will show up when we have devices with front cameras.
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Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.
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Lots of people use Foursquare daily. I used to use it several times a day, even tho I didn't know anyone else who used it.
I don't think they should waste time on Foursquare integration. Time would be better spend integrating DMs and FB Offline Messages into the Messaging or Email Hub, IMO.
I think they should have put a different pane in the Email Client with an option for us to Auto-Filter emails from integrated Social Networks into that, so that those of us who want faster (consistently faster) notifications could send them to email and get them fast. People Hub still doesn't support PUSH from what I've read/seen and since Hotmail/the email client doesn't support Labels like GMail it's a real ***** to organize stuff... Really, really, annoying.
I thought Mango was suppose to bring full support for IM clients? Yet IM+ and WhatsApp are still awful. WhatsApp is such an incredible app on iOS and Android, using it on WP7 makes me cry literally on what monstrosity they've created. I get a toast notification for a new message, I click it and it takes a good 3-4 seconds for message window to open (why not instantly?) and it takes nearly 10-15 seconds for the new message to appear. It's the exact same behavior in IM+. It's very laggy and very choppy and a far cry from the general smoothness of Mango.
So can someone tell me why this is?
Developers are human beings prone to imperfection. Give it time, allow them to learn the ropes of this new platform and iron out the kinks.
The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.
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The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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I (and others) updated twice and still haven't lost WLM. The way I understand it, as long as you update and don't reinstall it stays there. But just in case you're unlucky I'm not telling you to go ahead and do it
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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I actually like having dedicated apps for IM, same for twitter. The only app I've stopped using is facebook because the implementation is quite complete in WP7.
I would say it's probably down to UI for me, I find IM+ easier to manage than the built-in messaging for whatever reason (same for twitter) but they really need to upgrade it to Mango.
Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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Agreed, the marketplace is depressing and the APIs were released ages ago.
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Agreed. Not sure what more MS could do to entice developers. They will even write your code for you ffs. We need developers to show some initiative, or will we have to wait for Windows 8 & WP8 integration to get it?
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Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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How much faster could the app switching be lol
I say give it some time. I am expecting we'll soon see apps like the announced Skype, Tango, Spotify apps etc. Mango hasn't even reached 100% roll out yet. Perhaps too they're waiting till the Gen 2 phones launch in the US.
Just within the last few days apps like LastFM, iHeartRadio, Tunein Radioa and Vevo got background audio streaming, pinnable stations and yes fast app switching So I think the pace is fine in terms of current apps getting updated. New apps will come soon.
This is going off-topic now, but I can probably guess at why developers have been slow with updating their apps for Mango.
When Microsoft released the Mango tools, they told us (the developers) that once we updated our apps to Mango, then we wouldn't be able to update our NoDo apps. They changed that, but quite close to Mango release so there wasn't all that much time to get on and update.
It also takes time for developers to actually implement the new features and APIs into their programs.
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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This is why the heck...firstly, I'm using my outlook account which tied to Australia region for my main account. While,my main account which is the one with all my messenger buddy is tied to my US. Therefore, I can't use the outlook account for messenger. And I even tried the following steps:
1)my main account is created few years ago, and it is tied to US. However, until now I still unable to change the live ID or merge with my current Australia account.
2)M$ don't support messenger for secondary windows live account.
3)tried to move all my active messenger buddy to outlook account,but M$ don't allow me to use live messenger on this outlook account. It keep showing error and need me the fix the password.
4)not willing to create a new live messenger account as I have spent around 30dollars on apps.
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@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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This ..
And lets not forget Mango has been available to developers for months now.. I think like 3 months already.
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Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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It dosent have that functionality..
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@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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What lack of new apps? We're at 33k
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Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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For most people the point of instant messaging is simply that it doesn't use text/ sms messages, it uses your data plan.
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What lack of new apps? We're at 33k
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your 'we have 33k app' rebuttal is like a toddler saying 'what game? i have rusty's poop to play with'..
here is my penny to keep you thinking and demand quality:
sms scheduler to automatically fire up and send sms on particular day and time.
call sms blocker.
dedicated agenda and appointment app. Pocket Informant.
a wallet app. code wallet pro.
last decent game which i didnt finish in a day was released on 5/18/11: plant vs zombies.
audio recorder to record incoming and outgoing calls automatically. resco audio recorder.
data monitor which records all ur wifi and data connection and gives a monthly/weekly/daily/yearly view. spb data monitor.
an app to collect total call duration peak/offpeak/weekends to warn when reaching calling plan limit. phone dashboard.
Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs
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Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs
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ya than stfu and dont tell people to look at your 33k apps.
apps after mango, apps after mango, microsoft will release APIs after mngo.. everyone had hopes on mango.. and now i dont know what APIs did they release.. because everytime i ask for any app i know the other person will come up with the same old 'oh thats not possible because MS didnt release that API..' bullshi*.
according to you the only apps developer can make with present API is to pin a tile and another RSS reader, combine it with flaslite and tip calculator and we have your 33K app you mentioned.
Just visited and realized the rendering at the twitter mobile site is bad again. Anyone with the same experience or just me?
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It was on me a few days ago, it was living in the 90's lol.
Cant believe I used the mobile twitter just to see pictures, until I bought Carbon.
Also I wonder if twitter has a touch friendly website.
I wonder when Twitter will release a decent app for Windows Phone. iOS and Android users have push and the most basic and important features. Us WP7 people don't even have a live tile or notifications. It's the official Twitter App. They should have some respect for us the users.
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I wonder when Twitter will release a decent app for Windows Phone. iOS and Android users have push and the most basic and important features. Us WP7 people don't even have a live tile or notifications. It's the official Twitter App. They should have some respect for us the users.
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I agree with this, although Microsoft and Twitter (and also Facebook) should all do something.
The OS itself doesn't do native push notifications with facebook and twitter, with live tiles, these are just display feeds that refreshes about say 30minutes to 1hour.
Twitter does have an official app for WP7, but its laggy and feels like its using a lot of memory.
Facebook doesn't have an official app but the one from Microsoft is cool, they still should consider improving the app (like remove game requests and like comments) as a 3rd party application and leave the basic functions to the OS.
Back to topic, the twitter mobile site doesn't like IE9 very well.
Obviously none of you guys have tried the recent update to Rowi Twitter client. At the moment they update notifications every 2 or 3 mins & are going to bring instant updates in the near future. The app. feels almost native as its so fast & buttery smooth. It has all the functions I need in a Twitter client. It is also going to sync with Metrotwit desktop client in the very near future as well as add more features. If you haven't yet tried it I can recommend it & a free trial version is available on the Marketplace.
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I think most people are kinda miffed that it's the official apps that are lacking. Sure third party solutions are good and currently on WP7 clearly superior to the official ones (personally use mehdoh).
But twitter and facebook half arsing their apps just makes them seem to not to care.
They should know good apps are part of a good OS experience
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shardnet said:
I think most people are kinda miffed that it's the official apps that are lacking. Sure third party solutions are good and currently on WP7 clearly superior to the official ones (personally use mehdoh).
But twitter and facebook half arsing their apps just makes them seem to not to care.
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Some examples:
4th & Mayor > foursquare
YouTube Pro > YouTube (the microsoft app which is just a shortcut to the website)
Although I do like having the MSN emoticons and emojis integrated in Windows Phone.