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Will the HTC phones have this UI anytime soon ?
ELSE Mobile phone user interface
VIDEO: Hands-on with the ELSE Access Linux Platform smartphone

this is what i thought wm7 was going to look like

That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum

mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
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Where should it be then ?
what category ?

Hi ilordvader,
You should go on the official site for more info: http://www.firstelse.com/
Also, it has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 series (This UI is based on Limo).
To my mind, this thread should be moved in General forums.
Cheers.

This is actually much better than stupid iPhone-like WP7. And it even multitasks.

pilgrim011 said:
And it even multitasks.
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Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.

godefroi said:
Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
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Of course. I was trying to be sarcastic, because WP7 (just like iPhone) will not have true multitasking.

BTW,
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.

mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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I hate tiny buttons
I love WP7 for it's big buttons.
I have said time and again, when you are mobile, you are HANDICAPPED. You cannot be looking for tiny buttons while you are walking down the street and typing an email or browsing.
So you need a phone with a large(er) size i.e HD2, and big buttons.
HD2's biggest flaw is it's array of tiny buttons on the bottom.

gorelshv said:
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol

This thing has to be moved onto another forum.
Anyway, you can see that it is Linux-based, so maybe we can have it when we'll get a working Linux kernel for the HD2!
...Or on other devices (that are already running Linux just fine) like Diamond, Blackstone, Raphael etc.!

very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?

cchr said:
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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that's hiliarous i was thinkin the same thing cuz i am left handed
it would have been interesting if you talked about the hardware that's running the phone it would be interesting if we could boot that up on our devices the phone intergation is very slick i really liked the way it handled the phone call
i would like to see how it's developed in the future and if they release a version of hardware with a slide out keyboard if so i think i'd be interested in makin the switch if the development got big enough as thing here on xda have gotten
i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC

cchr said:
very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL

ilordvader said:
arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
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Yes, we are!

chiks19018 said:
Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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they should worry about the 10%, because they are not a very well known company and they could use all the customers they can get, i saw the ui about 1 month ago, and after that i read about it again yesterday in this thread. they would be better off selling the ui idea to a bigger OEM or MS or Apple or Google, because only then this ui will become popular.
Keland44 said:
i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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what happens at MWC? MWC is over..

cchr said:
very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.

Roadrunner100 said:
Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..

cchr said:
oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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umm...you have 2 hands..or no?
use the other one.

Assassin's Creed Question

Hi folks,
Anyone else been playing Gameloft's Assassin's Creed? I'm stuck in the game and I wonder if I could get some help? How the heck can I make the jump in the attached screen shot? I can't get passed this, I just plummet to my death all the time Is there another path? Is there a move I'm not aware of?
Cheers

Eehm... I played that game on ipod touch before I got my desire.. Was stuck in the very same place.. Just jump the way the arrow tells you, it is somewhat hard to time, but it is as far as I am aware, the only way.

Thanks, but I must have done that jump 20 times now and I just get smashed Seems like a glitch in the game design to me. I'll keep trying, though. Should I run and then jump? Or just walk to the edge and jump?

It's because the game doesn't have multitouch like the iPhone version. So you cant hold run and press jump.
Uninstall it.

doinbox said:
It's because the game doesn't have multitouch like the iPhone version. So you cant hold run and press jump.
Uninstall it.
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It's not a free game, so I'd rather not uninstall it. And there is indeed multi-touch support, since I can run and do various sorts of jumps at the same time. I wonder if the team behind the Android version of the game actually have tried to do that damn jump themselves...

Nokia 'Sea Ray' WP7

Nokia 'Sea Ray' WP7 handset revealed on a factory floor? (Video)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/nokia-sea-ray-wp7-handset-revealed-on-a-factory-floor-video/
Stephen Elop himself spilled the beans about Nokia's first WP7 handset, codenamed Sea Ray, when he told a large live audience and some whirring video cameras that he wanted the phone to be kept "super confidential." Now we have a whole new puddle of legumes lying on what sounds like a Chinese factory floor, courtesy of the authentic-looking video above. The clip reveals the N9-like device removed from what appears to be a stealth case, followed by a speedy boot-up into the Windows Phone OS. We're also treated to a quick look at the camera in action -- triggered by a dedicated shutter button that's missing on the N9 -- before a hurried "goodbye." There's not much else to see here, but could that reddish theme be a hint that this particular example is destined for Vodafone? Only time will tell.
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Boot was quick..

Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.

sylau90 said:
Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.
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Because that's obviously slowing this phone down, right?
This isn't the android forums.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

sylau90 said:
Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.
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WP7 is quicker on this set up than the most powerful android devices, so there's no need to shove juice hungry processors in there if not needed, its all about efficiency.
Count me in for a sea ray when its released, a lovely looking device and im looking forward to nokias great camera optics and mapping

That's a super nice phone. When Mango is finished, that will be the superman of WP7 phones.

Looks ok, I'm not blown away but, we all know it comes down to the numbers.
I know there is a lot of Nokia fans but, for the first Windows Phone 7 models from them I expect them to be innovative and different from the HTC and others. I don't see any sign of a front camera or anything else different.
I guess I'll wait for the numbers but, so far, not inpressed.

bye bye HD7.... welcome sea ray.... i will ask my friend to buy and ship it over when its launched in Europe...
i like the shape, looks like a bigger iPod shuffle...
cant wait for it to come out... hope it got the FFC..

truffle1234 said:
cant wait for it to come out... hope it got the FFC..
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I doubt it, because the switch camera button in the camera app is missing... but i guess we have to wait for the release to be sure.

I like the way screen is protuding outside a few milimeters when you look at it from side.. once we fit it with a hard case covering only back.. it should fit in good and make the phone smooth and look good when holding in hands..
In this vedio it looks mediocre though because of all the plastic cover and stuff... I hope it has gorilla glass scratch proof glass and super amoled like S Omnia 7..
One more plus is earphone jack is at the end and not in middle like current phones..
I am praying their is a way to lock the stupid useless bing search button in this phone..

I don't see any evidence of a FFC. I suppose we'll have to wait though. Also, how is the bing button useless? I use it more often than anything else on the phone.

seanlindo06 said:
I don't see any evidence of a FFC. I suppose we'll have to wait though. Also, how is the bing button useless? I use it more often than anything else on the phone.
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Clearly you dont play cool Xbox games like fruit ninja than..

Purple11 said:
Clearly you dont play cool Xbox games like fruit ninja than..
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Or he probably has better hand/eye coordination than you do

It looks too square for me, like a brick (not a fancy rounded style). Also, buttons location not too good for windshield mount, if you using handset as GPS (at least in my current windshield mount).

Looking good!
I actually even had a dream about this phone last night, in which I took a picture in low light, and it looked amazing.

The Bing button isn't useless. Sorry, had to respond to that... I find myself looking up things multiple times a day, and I use the Bing button often. Just because YOU don't use it, doesn't make it useless... Even now that I'm running Mango... I don't use the market tile, I just hit the search button, type in the app, and bam, I'm there... Though, as far as the locking, I will agree somewhat. They could include an option where it'll only trigger on a long-press when you're inside another app

Remember this is their first device. Nokia could have design it before Microsoft finalize the "skype-ability". And it could be their entry level windows phone, get it into the hands of the Nokia fanboy masses and spit out another in 6 months (or less) with the full featured device. I don't think the US will see this one. If it is mid priced offering to the EU and Asia. I think Nokia and Microsoft could easily start the takeover of the phone market.

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sorry that i have to say, but i find the search button myself quite usefull anytime i do searching stuffs. Bing gives me useful answers as good as Google does. That why now i use Bing as my default search engine.
by the way, why don't you just hit the damn search button instead of typing "Google.com" and navigate all the way to search stuffs on IE ?
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Strike_Eagle said:
sorry that i have to say, but i find the search button myself quite usefull anytime i do searching stuffs. Bing gives me useful answers as good as Google does. That why now i use Bing as my default search engine.
by the way, why don't you just hit the damn search button instead of typing "Google.com" and navigate all the way to search stuffs on IE ?
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I dont use internet search that often on daily basis to warrant a dedicated key in front like that.. i would have been much happier if it was to pickup calls or go to phone tab and things like that..

Purple11 said:
I dont use internet search that often on daily basis to warrant a dedicated key in front like that.. i would have been much happier if it was to pickup calls or go to phone tab and things like that..
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maybe u should stick a thick sticker on the bing button....
i like the bing search... and its very usful to me...

Thinking of Getting a WP7 Phone - Need Suggestions

i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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You have two options. The Titan or Titan 2. There you go.

Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.

xsever said:
Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
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wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?

kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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So that battery lasts longer and to reduce world poverty.
Sent from my Titan using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Depends. What do you need the phone for? For tinkering, business, gaming, etc.?
2) Most Apps have a great User Interface. Also, the experience is coherent across the apps and the system. The number of apps is ok.
I would adivse you to get a data plan with a smartphone. WP7 is intended as always-online phone. If you don't have a data connection you will miss out a lot of cool features.
If you have time I'd suggest for Windows Phone 8 as it is currently not clear weather existing phones will be update.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
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No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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2) are the apps better than android apps?
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That you would even need to ask this question tells me you need to do a lot more research on the smartphone market in general. Windows Phone has fewer apps and no one I know has ever accused it of having "better" apps compared to Android. You need to figure out what apps you really use and see if Windows Phone has them. If you use 6 apps heavily and Windows Phone has them then it really doesn't matter if Windows Phone doesn't have 10,000 flashlight apps. Here's my setup...
Nokia Drive (Free GPS)
Whatsapp
Skype
Skydrive (cloud storage)
Netflix
ebay
Adobe Acrobat
Unofficial Samsung Remote
Facebook and Twitter support is built in. Of course you get MS Office as well.
There are a few others loaded but I don't use them much. I don't like a cluttered setup so I don't download a bunch of stupid apps that will only be used once or twice.
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.

4.7 Screen... you clearly have 2 option : HTC Titan or Titan II, both are AT&T Branded in US , Titan II are exclusive to AT&T.

HTC is the best choice in my opinion

xsever said:
I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
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With your phone connected to power cord, it will keep the wifi connection while locked/asleep.

sitizenx said:
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
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Thanks a lot for this piece of information.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Up to you. I'm interested in getting a WP7 to play with.
2) Well, this is subjective. No, in my opinion. There are far less WP7 apps.
3) I'd say the Titan or Lumia, internally, there isn't much difference, They both have the same CPU etc.

sitizenx said:
No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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Exactly , Id say its more like 99% ,most people that have an android phone really dont know how powerful it is ,same with the iphone (which apple generally under powers) but the average joes doesnt care ,windows phone is no different except the interfaces are all different , I would gather you dont have root or a custom rom or even recovery on that android device , you wont need it on the windows device either (windows device do have some customization but not like android) if your happy with what the manufacturer gives you, your happy with what the software gives you and your satisfied with the carrier ,all three platforms are fine might as well throw in Blackberry and bada and symbian as well ,if your not gonna do anything with it than what "they" want you to do!
If you like customizing stick with Android otherwise apple or Microsoft will be fine!

If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny

tfn said:
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
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yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?

kilus said:
yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
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No, you cannot.

The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.

Just like IOS apps are coming to android, so are most of the apps coming to WP7, although games wise Microsoft is doing its XBOX games unlike gamelofts on android eg: angry birds is already on wp7

sianto1997 said:
The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
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it WAS FREE but it is no longer free, you have to pay like 40$ a month, so you can take that our of the equation.

Abandon or Hold on?

I am sorry for posting this here as I didn't see a Q&A section. Now that MS has killed Spotify + Groove Music, what exactly is going on? IN fact, I just want to know if anyone else is, like me, thinking of letting Windows 10 Mobile go? I am frankly tired of them stalling all the good things that are actually freely available on other platforms. I am talking about apps like Flipboard etc.
What's next? Insta? WhatsApp? It has now come to a point where even an expensive flagship is nothing more than a paper-weight.
When you ask that arrogant Nawzil on FB, the smart-ass laughs at you and sinkers at you as if holding some precious information that is going to magically transform your life.
Anyways, I will not make this a hate-thread and want to focus on the way ahead. Is it a kill and abandon mission? Or walk on and see?

Windows 10 Mobile is clearly facing the same fate as Windows RT. No offical statement from MS that it will be abandoned, but no new devices is coming, no new apps and current apps is losing support. And the OS itself has not seen any new features for a long time, still missing night mode and bluetooth has been buggy for years.

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Windows 10 Mobile is clearly facing the same fate as Windows RT. No offical statement from MS that it will be abandoned, but no new devices is coming, no new apps and current apps is losing support. And the OS itself has not seen any new features for a long time, still missing night mode and bluetooth has been buggy for years.
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You forgot to add to this list: Bill Gates told to the Fox News reporter, he switched to Android
Looks like it's time to say "Bye bye, Windows Mobile"...

sensboston said:
You forgot to add to this list: Bill Gates told to the Fox News reporter, he switched to Android
Looks like it's time to say "Bye bye, Windows Mobile"...
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haha..I read that too. I don't care much about what Billy uses. I need to know if it is time to jump ship? Or is something really remarkable just round the corner. Which I honestly doubt. But the devs here at XDA were making some really good progress hacking Lumia. But this too has been a silent room for a long time. So are the senior devs here too given up?

My next phone OS definitely will NOT be from Microsoft.
P.S. I've got free LG X charge from Xfinity Mobile (also with free unlimited calls/SMS) and now I understand what I really need (I mean incredible battery life). Unfortunately this X charge has an awful camera (like most of LG budget handsets). So, I hope, someone will release similar phone with good modern camera(s) and same (or more powerful) battery, with similar power savings.

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... But the devs here at XDA were making some really good progress hacking Lumia. ..
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So point it. There is no progress, there is no need for it because no new OS futures or system capabilities. OK, I will pay someone to make 950 bootloader unlocked and change the system font...nothing more. Give a break

X0LARIUM said:
Anyways, I will not make this a hate-thread and want to focus on the way ahead. Is it a kill and abandon mission? Or walk on and see?
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For me, the choice is sad but easy: I like Windows phones and dislike Android and iOS. I expect to stay until they no longer provide security updates.
I'm not optimistic about the future of Windows on phones yet the options I know of seem worse.
Your responsibilities are to yourself and it's not as if you are only allowed to switch once. What works best for you at this time?

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For me, the choice is sad but easy: I like Windows phones and dislike Android and iOS. I expect to stay until they no longer provide security updates.
I'm not optimistic about the future of Windows on phones yet the options I know of seem worse.
Your responsibilities are to yourself and it's not as if you are only allowed to switch once. What works best for you at this time?
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Thank you for your reply my friend. Something very strange happened yesterday. I shifted to my Nexus 6 after 2 weeks of usage of my Lumia 950XL. And the moment I turned it on, something hit me hard. I missed my Lumia. I dragged my feet through the day with my Android device. And what did I do the moment I reached home? I ripped open my Lumia, put my SIM in and fired it on immediately.
This has never happened before. I used to have cravings for using my Lumia in the past. The simplicity, the speed, the security. All of it. I however never swapped my SIM in a day's time ever before. And now I don't feel like going back to my Nexus at all. Though it isn't laggy in anyway with (Stock 7.1.1). I just felt a kind of aversion to it.
What works for me? Lumia hands down. However, what worries me is the fact that slowly and steadily, every app will go quiet. It has already started. Flipboard is gone and so are a bunch of others with it.
Feels like MS is on some kind of suicidal mission with WP.

Recent tweets by Joe Belfiore:
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071857370595328
We have tried VERY HARD to incent app devs. Paid money.. wrote apps 4 them.. but volume of users is too low for most companies to invest. ​
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360
Of course we'll continue to support the platform.. bug fixes, security updates, etc. But building new features/hw aren't the focus.​

winphouser said:
Recent tweets by Joe Belfiore:
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071857370595328
We have tried VERY HARD to incent app devs. Paid money.. wrote apps 4 them.. but volume of users is too low for most companies to invest. ​
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360
Of course we'll continue to support the platform.. bug fixes, security updates, etc. But building new features/hw aren't the focus.​
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Yea I read. All the news blog channels are declaring the OS dead, RIP and what not. However, as long as the basic apps like WhatsApp and Insta work, we are good. Otherwise it would be seriously crippling. Even then, I don't think I would sell my 950XL.

Same here. Will stay with my Lumia 730 until basic apps are alive. Just feels so bad to move to other platforms after using windows mobile
Even planning to upgrade to an used 1520.
(Have a Nexus 5 for backup)

hold , windows phone 10 still works good and bug fixes on the way .

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Yea I read. All the news blog channels are declaring the OS dead, RIP and what not. However, as long as the basic apps like WhatsApp and Insta work, we are good. Otherwise it would be seriously crippling. Even then, I don't think I would sell my 950XL.
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The UWP apps with mobile support should continue to get updates and work on mobile for a while (2+ years or more) unless a developer pulls the app. The legacy apps will eventually expire off...So unless you are gung-ho crazy over certain media apps (because Groove is dying) or want a Google store experience for some reason, there is no need to move to another hand set platform over apps. However folks should do what works best for them...I personally still find Android somewhat unintuitive so even though the huge amount of apps is there I still only use a handful. I am planning on buying a VZW Elite X3 soon and use that while waiting to see if Microsoft is really aiming for an Andromeda device with Windows Core OS.

nate0 said:
The UWP apps with mobile support should continue to get updates and work on mobile for a while (2+ years or more) unless a developer pulls the app. The legacy apps will eventually expire off...So unless you are gung-ho crazy over certain media apps (because Groove is dying) or want a Google store experience for some reason, there is no need to move to another hand set platform over apps. However folks should do what works best for them...I personally still find Android somewhat unintuitive so even though the huge amount of apps is there I still only use a handful. I am planning on buying a VZW Elite X3 soon and use that while waiting to see if Microsoft is really aiming for an Andromeda device with Windows Core OS.
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Well. I will be honest. I've jumped ship. I've got myself a Xiaomi Mi Note 2. I am honestly very happy. This is just not done. They have a history of abandoning products and I should have known it. My bad Microsoft.

So much bluetooth problems with Windows 10 Mobile, since the it was released. I can't understand that Microsoft never have and never will fix it.

I have no problem at all-

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I have no problem at all-
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With Bluetooth? If I stream music from Spotify or Groove with Bluetooth and try to use the device at the same time, like open the Maps app, the sound will start to stutter or the sound quality will turn bad. Sometimes it also just stops playing, and I have to wait for the music app to reload before it opens.
Sometimes Bluetooth does not auto connect, sometimes it can't connect at all and I have to restart phone.
Reading the MS feedback forums it seems like the Bluetooth problems affect all devices and all versions of W10M.

On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.

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On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.
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Its great if what you are saying is true. I still have Bluetooth issues with my Lumia 730

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On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.
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Sorry, I have 950XL.