I've moved from the awesome line of Calkulin ROM's to the official MIUI port and this is something I've always wondered. Will I have to update to new modems manually when they come out or does one flash with the ROM?
With my old Evo 4G I had to update radio's on my own running CM7.
One of those questions that I have yet to find a definite answer on.
You can flash one while in a TW rom, or use Odin while in CM7 or MiUi. Not flash while in AOSP type rom.
cordell12 said:
You can flash one while in a TW rom, or use Odin while in CM7 or MiUi. Not flash while in AOSP type rom.
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Why can't you use CWM to flash a modem, CWM is CWM no matter what ROM you're using?
sk63 said:
Why can't you use CWM to flash a modem, CWM is CWM no matter what ROM you're using?
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I cant tell you the reason it fails when using CWM in CyanogenMod7, but it fails. My guess is it checks the firmware (ROM) somehow before flashing/writing and thats why.
Good to know. Odin is easy enough to use so thats not a big deal.
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Why do you have to flash to a stock rom before moving to a custom rom? If I want to install Viper 5.0 on EB13, why do I have to go to stock EB13 first? Just curious. If I flash to the stock EB13, does that change the modem to EB13? I'm on DK28 now with Viper Trinity 2.0 and want to try 5.0...Why can't I just do the wipe 3 times and then flash the custom rom? I just want to understand this is all.
Thanks,
Kevin
Its worth a try.... if it doesn't boot you'll have to odin anyway. Wipe everything 3x each and flash your rom and see if it fixes it. Also, you can always flash different modems with odin.
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qbking77 said:
Its worth a try.... if it doesn't boot you'll have to odin anyway. Wipe everything 3x each and flash your rom and see if it fixes it. Also, you can always flash different modems with odin.
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Sure, but that doesn't really get to the root of my question. When I went from EC05 stock to DK28 ViperRom, why did I have to flash to the stock DK28? what significance does this have?
KiloJKilo said:
Sure, but that doesn't really get to the root of my question. When I went from EC05 stock to DK28 ViperRom, why did I have to flash to the stock DK28? what significance does this have?
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It is probably due to the modem compatibility and support files. Most ROMs include all support and stock files needed but may remove bloatware. Some check for modem and will install the needed modem, others not. For EB13 and EC05 ROMs the support files and data are compatible but not necessarily with DK28 since that was an early leak.
As mentioned, back up your stuff and you can always try without Odin'ing first and if you get no errors you are good to go.
you dont have too., you could just odin the modem, and flash the rom... unless you have to change from rfs to ext4 or vice versa
I am currently running Calk's rom 2.5 that was "based off EL13 build." My kernel version in about phone says: "2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL13-CL806482. and build is "Calkulin's E4GT Rom v2.5."
But my Baseband version says S:d710.10 S.EG30. Am I able to upgrade my baseband version to EL13 or does Calk's rom already do that for me?
Thanks in advance for any help
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I am currently running Calk's rom 2.5 that was "based off EL13 build." My kernel version in about phone says: "2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL13-CL806482. and build is "Calkulin's E4GT Rom v2.5."
But my Baseband version says S:d710.10 S.EG30. Am I able to upgrade my baseband version to EL13 or does Calk's rom already do that for me?
Thanks in advance for any help
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You can flash the EL13 modem in CWM using the appropriate CWM MDM link in my signature.
I am in a similar situation. I currently have:
Android 2.3.4
Baseband: S710.10 S.EG30
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EG30-CL435734
ROM: midNIGHT ROM v2.2 NOCIQ ET4G
I want to install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
How would I go about doing this? I know how to use ODIN to flash stuff, also know how to use Clockwork to flash from phone, but I'm a newbie in this area and I don't want to brick my phone.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Just use CWM and flash the ROM. It'll install the ROM and the kernel. You can flash your radio at a later point from CWM also.
On the thread of the ROM I want, it says:
"Important Notes - Due to how this ROM is setup, a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM(use FORMAT ALL attached)"
Does this mean that before installing the ROM I need to format the whole phone (minus the SD card)?
Thank you for your help!
sTr3utr said:
On the thread of the ROM I want, it says:
"Important Notes - Due to how this ROM is setup, a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM(use FORMAT ALL attached)"
Does this mean that before installing the ROM I need to format the whole phone (minus the SD card)?
Thank you for your help!
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The Modem, Kernel, and ROM are separate entities. This thread started off talking about modems, but now you are switching to talking about a ROM. Just wanted to clarify that in case things are getting mixed up.
If the ROM says you need to FORMAT all, that usually means if you are coming from a different ROM, you should do that. If you are upgrading from one version of that ROM to another, usually you won't need to format all, but sometimes you might. Ask your question on the ROM-specific discussion thread.
Thank you for your help. I tried to post on the ROM post but I couldn't due to being a passive user and the Development forums requiring a certain number of posts.
I backed up EVERYTHING with MyBackup Pro just now and I will format ALL, format cache, dalvik-cache, anything that says "erase" on CWM I will do ... and I'll report back with how it all went.
Thank you again for your helpful post.
Hey guys. New guy here to rooting. Thanks to sfhub my first attempt was a success.
This is my current set up.
android 2.3.6
baseband s:d710s.ek02
kernel 2.6.35.7-sph-d710.ek02-cl704398
Rom New Senzation v1.7.
I also want to run Caulks' rom but I am not sure if I can on the ek02 modem. Would I have to flash to el13 to be able to use this rom?
Sorry if the terminologies are wrong still trying to get used to and understand all of this.
thecableguy9768 said:
I also want to run Caulks' rom but I am not sure if I can on the ek02 modem. Would I have to flash to el13 to be able to use this rom?
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Even though theoretically it is best to keep the Modem, Kernel, and ROM matched since they were tested together, in practice folks haven't had issues with mix and matching. Now with CWM flashable FULL modems for EG30/EG31/EK02/EL13, it is very easy to switch after the ROM flash. Just make sure your kernel is based off the newer EK02/EL13 to flash the FULL modems.
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Even though theoretically it is best to keep the Modem, Kernel, and ROM matched since they were tested together, in practice folks haven't had issues with mix and matching. Now with CWM flashable FULL modems for EG30/EG31/EK02/EL13, it is very easy to switch after the ROM flash. Just make sure your kernel is based off the newer EK02/EL13 to flash the FULL modems.
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Thanks for the help. Got it all installed and working.
Hey i would like to revert back to eg20 from el13.. Do i have to ogin back to eg30 or is there another method
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Dwayneiztheshyt said:
Hey i would like to revert back to eg20 from el13.. Do i have to ogin back to eg30 or is there another method
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What do you want to revert? Modem, Kernel, ROM, or all three?
If all three, the easiest is to use the EG30 ODIN tar in my signature then apply the EK02 update immediately afterwards.
I know you guys probably get a lot of new users asking...
Recently I acquired a SGS2 with sprint.
It is currently on ICS leak 24.
My understanding is that while on ICS or AOSP:
* never mess with CWM, ROM manger, recovery. I don't ever use nandroid backup's so I'm okay on that zone.
* Make sure the USB cable isn't bad, or phone port.
* Always use the EL29 full restore odin one click(not the preserve data package), then install the CWM recovery and wipe data/use Calkulin's_FORMAT_ALL one or two times. Then, flash the custom ROM of my choice. Then re-flash back using the EL29 Full restore if I wish to try out another ROM or update to a ROM.
I have no issues following those steps to ensure I don't brick my device. Is all correct? Thanks guys!
This thread is your friend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
I wouldn't say never mess with CWM, just know what you are doing in advance.
That thread he posted will tell you everything you need to know, If you have any more questions just ask me I update that thread fairly often just so you know too.
Always Odin to stock before switching Android versions
Use only FB21 or FB28 to flash ICS ROMS
You don't need to go back to EL29 to flash a new Android version. But Odining to stock can allow for a smoother install. But it's pretty pointless to say... Download The Goodness ICS Rom 3.1, and then when an update comes to 3.2, go back to EL29.
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That thread he posted will tell you everything you need to know, If you have any more questions just ask me I update that thread fairly often just so you know too.
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Thanks! =) I read most of that but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't do something wrong.
iniz94 said:
Always Odin to stock before switching Android versions
Use only FB21 or FB28 to flash ICS ROMS
You don't need to go back to EL29 to flash a new Android version. But Odining to stock can allow for a smoother install. But it's pretty pointless to say... Download The Goodness ICS Rom 3.1, and then when an update comes to 3.2, go back to EL29.
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It is okay if I flash a ICS ROM from EL29 though right? =) I'm pretty comfortable with blazer 4.1 at the moment though so I see no desire to flash a ICS ROM till source is out and there is an official method.
Yup no problem at all, just make sure your on the stock repacked EL29 kernel and not rogue when you flash and don't restore anything when ICS is installed. Once source is out we should be good on bricks but till then be safe broski. I like ICS too but I'm sticking with blazer too just because battery life.
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Yup no problem at all, just make sure your on the stock repacked EL29 kernel and not rogue when you flash and don't restore anything when ICS is installed. Once source is out we should be good on bricks but till then be safe broski. I like ICS too but I'm sticking with blazer too just because battery life.
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Thanks for that, So I can't be on the rogue from autoroot option C? How would I go along the terms of that.
I use the EL29 Restore package, then use the auto-root package to install my recovery. Unless that isn't correct. Can i use the recovery of rogue to flash an AOSP ROM at least? Sorta confusing after being a HTC user for the longest... Touchwiz feels very smooth compared to sense.
Febby said:
Thanks for that, So I can't be on the rogue from autoroot option C? How would I go along the terms of that.
I use the EL29 Restore package, then use the auto-root package to install my recovery. Unless that isn't correct. Can i use the recovery of rogue to flash an AOSP ROM at least? Sorta confusing after being a HTC user for the longest... Touchwiz feels very smooth compared to sense.
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Lol sorry I should have clarified what I meant by rogue. That kernel is fine as it's the repacked el29 kernel, however don't use A rogue kernel such as gunslinger to flash (kernel with OC and UC options) You may not have issues but better safe then sorry. I actually really like tw, between this and aosp it's my favorite. If your going to flash aosp such as aokp or cm9 I recommend following the instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24049602&postcount=3
Late to the party, but if you are going for GB to ICS, I recommend you Odin a stock EL29 first just to be safe. Also, make sure that your GPS is locked before you flash to ICS so that your GPS ability stays.
If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?
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If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?
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Flash kernel, install ROM, done.
A lot of roms require flashing a certain stock firmware first though.
The usual process for many roms= make sure you have the right base ROM if one is required (example: stock .42), fastboot flash kernel, load kernel recovery, flash zip file for ROM.
Make sure to wipe the cache in between through recovery.
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TehTimeb0mb said:
If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?
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just the same method.. but make sure that kernel u want to flash, supported by the rom that u want to use
I have a T-Mobile Galaxy S2. Rooted it withe hercules tar kernel on Android 2.3. When I upgraded to JB the kernel no longer worked (couldn't root). I tried flashing Cyangoen 10.0 and 9.0 but neither wokred (Waited 20 minutes and nothing). Is there a kernel I need to flash with ODIN?
Also, looking for a good place to learn abot kernels in genral.
Many thanks.
FezK
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I have a T-Mobile Galaxy S2. Rooted it withe hercules tar kernel on Android 2.3. When I upgraded to JB the kernel no longer worked (couldn't root). I tried flashing Cyangoen 10.0 and 9.0 but neither wokred (Waited 20 minutes and nothing). Is there a kernel I need to flash with ODIN?
Also, looking for a good place to learn abot kernels in genral.
Many thanks.
FezK
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Kernel is causing the problem. Flash only kernel which is made for specific rom/android version. follow this if you want to flash via Odin. I recommend you to install CWM because its easy,safe and time saving.
Installed CWM Recovery, tried to flash Cyanogen 9...now it keeps rebooting back into CWM...can't access the Recovery menu. I downloaded the updated kernel. How do I get it flashed?
I was able to connect via ODIN. Can't get recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.1-hercules.tar to flash.
restart your computer log back in and use a different USB port and make sure you have all the DRIVERS for the phone plug it in flash the ODIN CWM file then you should flash an ICS ROM then flash JB to avoid any hiccups 2.3.4 is a big jump to JB might be giving you errors and you are rooted correct ?
Thank you. Yes I'm rooted an runnning smoothly with Juggernaut ROM for now. Want to change to Cyanogen 9.0. I'll flash the ODIN CWM file as you recommend. Where can I find a good ICS ROM and JB? Didn't know the jump from 2.3.4 to JB would be so big.
Many thanks.
what do you prefer the more stocky looking approach or you into AOKP/CM if you like stock then anything from PTMR and JAMISON904 are on point and very stable if you want some options and custom stuff look into the CM/AOKP around here in the development forums since you are rooted i would download a nice ICS you wont be on it long so doesnt matter lol and then finally jump ship to JB give it time for the battery to settle in becuase there was nothin like GB as far as the battery life goes this one guy who has amazing work and dedication http://goo.im/devs/Cl3Kener anything on there will do you justice when you get to the JB stage good luck and happy flashing!!
C13Kener DOES have some amazing stuff. Thanks. I see that he has a nice ICS stock ROM (Samsung-Stock-4.1.2-Tiberius-Kernel-1.1.zip). Can I just flash that from recovery or do I need to flash a new kernel via ODIN beforehand? Apprecaite your patience and help.
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C13Kener DOES have some amazing stuff. Thanks. I see that he has a nice ICS stock ROM (Samsung-Stock-4.1.2-Tiberius-Kernel-1.1.zip). Can I just flash that from recovery or do I need to flash a new kernel via ODIN beforehand? Apprecaite your patience and help.
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I think there is some confusion here. A ROM is not the same thing as a kernel.
I think thats where I'm having trouble. I have an older kernel (recovery-cwm-hercules.tar) and need to upgrade it before I can flash an ICS ROM. Don't know where to find kernels for the ROMS I want to flash. I thought some ROMs came with the kernel embedded in their zipfile, but finding thats not the case. ODIN is fairly easy to use, but I don't know where to find the right kernels for ROMs like Cyanogen.
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I think thats where I'm having trouble. I have an older kernel (recovery-cwm-hercules.tar) and need to upgrade it before I can flash an ICS ROM. Don't know where to find kernels for the ROMS I want to flash. I thought some ROMs came with the kernel embedded in their zipfile, but finding thats not the case. ODIN is fairly easy to use, but I don't know where to find the right kernels for ROMs like Cyanogen.
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Recovery is a tool used to flash ROMs and do backups.
TWRP and CWM are recoveries.
ROMs are the operating system of the phone. They come with a kernel. The kernel is what boots the phone into the OS. You can flash a different kernel if it matches the type of ROM you are on. I hope that clears up some of the confusion.