[Q] Switching kernals and roms. - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?

TehTimeb0mb said:
If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?
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Flash kernel, install ROM, done.
A lot of roms require flashing a certain stock firmware first though.
The usual process for many roms= make sure you have the right base ROM if one is required (example: stock .42), fastboot flash kernel, load kernel recovery, flash zip file for ROM.
Make sure to wipe the cache in between through recovery.
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TehTimeb0mb said:
If i already have a kernal and rom but want to switch to different ones. do i do anything different than when my phone was stock?
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just the same method.. but make sure that kernel u want to flash, supported by the rom that u want to use

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Moved to AOSP ROM's, questions about modems.

I've moved from the awesome line of Calkulin ROM's to the official MIUI port and this is something I've always wondered. Will I have to update to new modems manually when they come out or does one flash with the ROM?
With my old Evo 4G I had to update radio's on my own running CM7.
One of those questions that I have yet to find a definite answer on.
You can flash one while in a TW rom, or use Odin while in CM7 or MiUi. Not flash while in AOSP type rom.
cordell12 said:
You can flash one while in a TW rom, or use Odin while in CM7 or MiUi. Not flash while in AOSP type rom.
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Why can't you use CWM to flash a modem, CWM is CWM no matter what ROM you're using?
sk63 said:
Why can't you use CWM to flash a modem, CWM is CWM no matter what ROM you're using?
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I cant tell you the reason it fails when using CWM in CyanogenMod7, but it fails. My guess is it checks the firmware (ROM) somehow before flashing/writing and thats why.
Good to know. Odin is easy enough to use so thats not a big deal.

Is a custom kernel necessary for a custom rom?

Hopefully my title didn't confuse anyone lol.
I was told the main reason for flashing a custom kernel is entering recovery mode, well if that's the case, I have an app called x-parts, it allows me to boot my xperia play in recovery mode without flashing a custom kernel. so....would I be able to flash a custom rom via x-parts WITHOUT having to flash a kernel?
IM HAVING THE HARDEST TIME TRYING TO GET CM7/CM9 ON MY PHONE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
Xperia Player said:
Hopefully my title didn't confuse anyone lol.
I was told the main reason for flashing a custom kernel is entering recovery mode, well if that's the case, I have an app called x-parts, it allows me to boot my xperia play in recovery mode without flashing a custom kernel. so....would I be able to flash a custom rom via x-parts WITHOUT having to flash a kernel?
IM HAVING THE HARDEST TIME TRYING TO GET CM7/CM9 ON MY PHONE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
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I'm pretty sure you can use the same kernel for a CM7 ROM since stock and CM7 are the same Android version, basically.
However, to use an ICS based ROM, flashing a custom kernel is necessary.
Solar.Plexus said:
I'm pretty sure you can use the same kernel for a CM7 ROM since stock and CM7 are the same Android version, basically.
However, to use an ICS based ROM, flashing a custom kernel is necessary.
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It means that i can flash CM7 on stock???? Without flash a custom kernel??? If that is true then CM7 works on locked bootloader....
No. You must have a custom kernel for a custom ROM. Any ROMs that can be flashed on locked bootloader will say so explicitly. CM7 is not one of those.
Thanks for the info guys just curious to see how kernels tried into roms

Recovery in the kernel?

I was thinking about how frustrating having CWM in the kernel was, and I remembered reading that some stock ROMS don't require it to be in the kernel. If this is so, why do CM and other devs still put it there?
brainard52 said:
I was thinking about how frustrating having CWM in the kernel was, and I remembered reading that some stock ROMS don't require it to be in the kernel. If this is so, why do CM and other devs still put it there?
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What are you talking about? Having CWM in the kernel benefits those who flash different custom roms on a daily basis.
That may be, but for people who would like to try out different recoveries (touch), it's near impossibly without having to mess with the kernel.
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cwm is necessary to flash custom rom except the stock firmware that you need flashtool

How to backup stock kernel?

Anyone know of an app or a way?
You could install a custom recovery and create a backup of the entire ROM from the custom recovery or did you just want the stock kernel?
I want to be able to be able to revert back to the stock kernel easily after switching to another without having to reflash kitkat with Odin.
Will you be trying a custom rom? I ask because stock kernels tend to only work with Samsung-based roms. Most custom roms are based on a cm11 or aosp kernel.
ROM Toolbox Pro can backup your kernel. Not sure if the free version will though. You can check
audit13 said:
Will you be trying a custom rom? I ask because stock kernels tend to only work with Samsung-based roms. Most custom roms are based on a cm11 or aosp kernel.
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No, I'm on a stock rom.
OKAstro said:
ROM Toolbox Pro can backup your kernel. Not sure if the free version will though. You can check
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I can't find any option to backup the kernel in the pro version.
MikeRWK said:
No, I'm on a stock rom.
I can't find any option to backup the kernel in the pro version.
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1. Open ROM Toolbox
2. Choose ROM Installer
3. Swipe right
4. Choose Backup & Restore
5. Backup Kernel is 3rd choice.
6. Note backup location so you'll know where it is
MikeRWK said:
No, I'm on a stock rom.
I can't find any option to backup the kernel in the pro version.
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Or, if u flash a custom kernel and don't like it and want to revert to the stock kernel easliy, just dirty flash the Rom again, no wiping needed...
I ended up flashing CM11 and I made a complete backup before I flashed.
Thanks for the help guys
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Re-Flash Xperia M to stock

Hey everyone,
last week I flashed my girlfriend's XMS with several custom ROMs, but none of them could really satisfy us, so I want to re-flash the stock ROM.
My question is: Can I just flash the ftf file with the flashtool if there is currently CM11 running on the device? Or do I need to erase the system before?
Will this also flash "stock recovery"? Is there a way to do this?
Thanks!
Yes, you can flash stock ROM. There is no need to format system, Flashtool will do its work. Stock recovery will not be flashed, because we don't have stock recovery on our device. But you can flash stock kernel with CWM or PhilZ Touch recovery.
if you want to leave your recovery ..check kernel
sin in exclude list in flashtool
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Farsiris said:
if you want to leave your recovery ..check kernel
sin in exclude list in flashtool
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No! Phone will not boot with custom ROM kernel (if custom ROM is not based on stock). So it is necessary to flash full stock at first and then to flash stock kernel with recovery, if you want to have recocery.
cucumber09 said:
No! Phone will not boot with custom ROM kernel (if custom ROM is not based on stock). So it is necessary to flash full stock at first and then to flash stock kernel with recovery, if you want to have recocery.
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Have you tried it ? Cuz i ve tried it many many times !
Farsiris said:
Have you tried it ? Cuz i ve tried it many many times !
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You flashed stock via Flashtool after CM11 or CM-based ROM without flashing stock kernel? It should not boot, I think, because 4.3 and 4.4 kernels are different.
Has anyone tried this? I need to do this also but I'm a little bit confused about flashing kernel. I tried to find a detailed guide somewhere but no success

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