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I can see a lot of techie people getting very upset about what's been revealed about WP7S, and I'm starting to think that although I too was initially a bit ruffled, much of it really doesn't matter.
1. No SSD support
I always buy the biggest SSD I can, shove it into my new phone, and promptly forget about it. I can't recall the last time I upgraded to a bigger SSD without upgrading my phone at the same time, such is the rate of progress. Indeed, the iPhone, with its internal memory, always seems to be one step ahead of SSD-capable phones. My HD2 has a 16GB SSD, the iPhone has 32GB of memory. 32GB SSDs aren't even available. I never, ever take the SSD out of the phone once it's in there. So for me, removable memory just isn't an issue.
2. Multitasking
I thought I needed this, but looking at the apps I use on my HD2, I can only see one that really genuinely need multitasking, and that's Palringo. As far as I can tell, chat is going to be integrated into the Panels thingy so I probably won't even need to install Palringo anyway. Pausing apps when I switch away from them will be just fine with me.
3. Marketplace
I've never developed my own apps, nor do I intend to, nor do I operate in a corporate environment. Downloading apps from a central marketplace will be 100 times easier than having to trawl through Handango etc for some frankly pretty ****e apps to try to find decent ones. At least the apps in the store will have gone through a vetting process. I just hope Microsoft aren't as draconian as Apple in what they reject. Also, when downloading an app I won't have to choose between speed (install to memory) and space (install to SSD). I will get BOTH without having to decide at all. Sounds good to me!
4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
There you go, flame away - I for one will be much happier with a WP7S phone than I have been with WM6.5.
Jim Coleman said:
4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
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You are very wrong here.
vangrieg said:
You are very wrong here.
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Let me rephrase then - I don't believe any of the apps I use do it.
Cash Organizer
Pocket Informant
GCzII
KeePass
Palringo
TomTom 7
Jim Coleman said:
3. Marketplace
I've never developed my own apps, nor do I intend to, nor do I operate in a corporate environment. Downloading apps from a central marketplace will be 100 times easier than having to trawl through Handango etc for some frankly pretty ****e apps to try to find decent ones. At least the apps in the store will have gone through a vetting process. I just hope Microsoft aren't as draconian as Apple in what they reject. Also, when downloading an app I won't have to choose between speed (install to memory) and space (install to SSD). I will get BOTH without having to decide at all. Sounds good to me!
4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
There you go, flame away - I for one will be much happier with a WP7S phone than I have been with WM6.5.
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I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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there is no external storage so without a pc u wont be able to put your info back on without a wifi or data connection which would work like myphone does now. not sure how u would put your apps back on without re downloading all of them from marketplace.
saying this im guess the phone is less likely to go wrong and will be very similar to how a iphone works.
hyellow said:
I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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From my own perspective, I never keep copies of the cab files for my apps on my phone anyway, so that wouldn't help me. Nore have I ever had to do a hard reset on my HD2 (except once for the dreaded lock password issue, now I don't use a lock password). Plus, as there IS NO SSD to store them on, it's kind of a moot point.
I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
Plus, should your phone become bricked, good luck trying to access to all your content.
wmserver said:
I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
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Microsoft have already said they will allow all competitors' apps, and I hope that will always remain true. Regarding USB file transfer, have Microsoft specifically said it won't be supported? (I'm not sure)
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Microsoft have already said they will allow all competitors' apps, and I hope that will always remain true. Regarding USB file transfer, have Microsoft specifically said it won't be supported? (I'm not sure)
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ms has said u cant use wm7 as a usb drive, they also said that bing must be used for search, not sure if it must be used for maps too.
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I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
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I think you still access photos, music etc. with the new media sync application (forgot the name). Indeed it seems to be a major feature of WP7!
But I also use my phone as USB stick, using it for non-media stuff, which I assume won't be possible anymore.
I experienced once incident during holiday to Spain, this is real story.
I was using TomTom and HTC Kaiser. All of sudden, the TomTom application stuck, I could not interact with it ... except hitting the soft-reset hole.
After soft reset, all content in my sd card gone, including the TomTom map.
I really hate that situation because I rely only on my TomTom
Lessen learned, I always keep second SD card on my bag during holiday which contain exactly the same.
So there you go, I think SD card is required.
The thing is, I am willing to sacrifice without SD Card. Probably the above incident was caused by "bad" sd card. With internal storage, probably it will be much more reliable. Ok that's fine.
But ........................
I want a way to EASILY store my files (big files) on the phone. Files like software utility etc. That's handy.
With no file manager ... and no sd card slot, I cannot picture this possible easily.
Probably I could use Zune software (ala iTunes)???
But that will defeat the purpose of having those files available all the time. Because other PC might not have Zune software!
Hmm, using email to transfer file? Yeah right, 3G is still slow compared to direct copy from sd card ! And imagine when roaming to pay data connection.
This is what I really dont like about WP7 ...
I can live without multitasking and side loading, no problem with that.
Jim Coleman said:
From my own perspective, I never keep copies of the cab files for my apps on my phone anyway, so that wouldn't help me. Nore have I ever had to do a hard reset on my HD2 (except once for the dreaded lock password issue, now I don't use a lock password). Plus, as there IS NO SSD to store them on, it's kind of a moot point.
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I remember yesterday, when someone asked Joe Belfiore ... "Will there be Mac support?"
His answer was something like "You dont need PC to be able to use Windows Phone 7 Series" ... "Try to not use PC" ...
Hmm, it'll be a shame to lose the USB drive functionality, but I only really ever used that to load cab files onto my phone (which will be moot as marketplace will be the way to get apps) from my work PC, but I can live without doing that, especially as I shouldn't have been doing that anyway (ahem).
An advantage of using the Zune software to put files onto the phone will be the inbuilt compression and media format conversion though, which will be nice.
I should add that I carry a 32GB memorystick around with me (it's on my house keyfob) and use that for pretty much all my file transfer needs. My phone is so stuffed with mp3s that it has virtually no free space on its SSD, hence it's pretty useless for file transfer anyway!
Yes Jim, I think I must think the same approach.
At this moment, I also carrying 4GB super small micro sd card on my pocket.
I think I need to find one as a key-chain.
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Hmm, it'll be a shame to lose the USB drive functionality, but I only really ever used that to load cab files onto my phone (which will be moot as marketplace will be the way to get apps) from my work PC, but I can live without doing that, especially as I shouldn't have been doing that anyway (ahem).
An advantage of using the Zune software to put files onto the phone will be the inbuilt compression and media format conversion though, which will be nice.
I should add that I carry a 32GB memorystick around with me (it's on my house keyfob) and use that for pretty much all my file transfer needs. My phone is so stuffed with mp3s that it has virtually no free space on its SSD, hence it's pretty useless for file transfer anyway!
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Satnav application vendors often distribute their maps by selling you an SD card with the maps pre-installed on it. How's that going to work without an SD card slot? Are people going to download several gigabytes worth of maps over the data connection?
The way it works for iPhone is pretty straightforward - downloads over 10MB go via iTunes (you can choose to download everything this way, BTW).
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I really don't understand this no SD card thing. If I interpreted the post where I read that information correctly. It's not even that there are no SD cards allowed, it's that they don't want removable SD cards.
I think they said the vendor could have an unremovable SD card if they chose (behind the battery). I'm hoping I mis-interpreted this, I see little reason or sense in having SD card support but making them non-removable. That would just further upset me about that .
But I guess isn't not that big a deal since there's no file management on the device which is an even bigger problem. It's almost like they're trying to alienate their business clients.
Ganondolf said:
saying this im guess the phone is less likely to go wrong and will be very similar to how a iphone works.
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You think iphones don't go wrong?
Anyhow as far as I can work out most of the new stuff in WP7S compared to WM is lame and actually relates to loss of functionality, with only the potential for easier development being offered in return. If useful apps materialise then maybe the damage won't be that bad but they are sacrificing everything for potential gain.
The fact is though that windows mobile grew on PDAs, and I think most people who want a WM phone want a PDA with a phone attached to it, with the feel of a "PC" in your "pocket". WP7S seems targeted at a completely different consumer who just wants a phone with a flashy touchscreen display. The thing is iphone does that perfectly well already. I don't see anything I want in WP7S, and there's nothing that has been described that I can't get elsewhere in an ordinary (modern) phone. It had better be a better product because I doubt there would be any customer loyalty between 6.5 and 7.
gom99 said:
I really don't understand this no SD card thing.
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But I guess isn't not that big a deal since there's no file management on the device which is an even bigger problem.
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Well you obviously understand the no SD card thing - there's nothing you could do with the card in WP7S with no file system access.
Just checked the Nexus' new page, in features, it says:
Jam on with Google Music
Upload your personal music collection to the cloud with Music Beta by Google, and stream your music to your Galaxy Nexus, computer, or other Android devices. Upload music from your computer, or add your iTunes® library, and everything stays in sync automatically. Even when you have no data connection—just select the albums, artists, and playlists you want for offline listening.
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The reason why I canceled the phone out of my list was because of the memory that seemed little for me. Why do I want a huge memory? It's because of music, I don't store movies, videos and other media. But with this new cloud feature works even with no data connection. Does that mean, I don't need an SD card? If that's true I'm definitely getting it, after all the memory was the only thing stopping me, and it was only because of music. Seeing I got my Samsung Wave with a full 16GB card full of music with absolutely nothing else.
Does that save me?
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Just checked the Nexus' new page, in features, it says:
The reason why I canceled the phone out of my list was because of the memory that seemed little for me. Why do I want a huge memory? It's because of music, I don't store movies, videos and other media. But with this new cloud feature works even with no data connection. Does that mean, I don't need an SD card? If that's true I'm definitely getting it, after all the memory was the only thing stopping me, and it was only because of music. Seeing I got my Samsung Wave with a full 16GB card full of music with absolutely nothing else.
Does that save me?
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From what I gather, It will still need an initial data connection whilst it caches the song from the server that you have uploaded it to, and to cache it, it will take some of your 16GB therefore there will still be a lack of storage for your needs :/
Ps, hope that made sense haha
Bare in mind that the cloud music service is (currently) only officially available to folks in the US.
There will be a lot of people who don't know how to get round that.
As above though, for the 'cloud' service to work without a data connection, you must fist cache what you want to listen to on the phone, and 320kpbs MP3's aren't tiny.
Without data you still need the storage for cached songs.
BTW in case it wasnt clear No sd card + Google music announcement IS the reason for no SD card. I hope the discussion can stop now.
Google Music when download are 320 Kbps resolution, that means a 10 min song will be close to 32 MB each, now do your match and see how little songs you can put in the cache in the 13 GB of space left in the 16 GB version of the GN
so, to enjoy Google Music you'll need at least the 32GB version of GN
the next best thing is to use a USB key on the go, and keep it always plugged into the GN whenever you go around listening to music off your USB stick
The benefit here is that you can change what you store on the fly. So really you'll never need that much space taken up.
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that's assuming you got WiFi connection nearby, or an owner of an Unlimited 3G/4G plan
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Bare in mind that the cloud music service is (currently) only officially available to folks in the US.
There will be a lot of people who don't know how to get round that.
As above though, for the 'cloud' service to work without a data connection, you must fist cache what you want to listen to on the phone, and 320kpbs MP3's aren't tiny.
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I don't know a way of getting round it :| ... is there one?
Also do you or anyone else reading this know - if I uploaded my own MP3s does it upscale them to better quality?
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I don't know a way of getting round it :| ... is there one?
Also do you or anyone else reading this know - if I uploaded my own MP3s does it upscale them to better quality?
Thanks
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no, it stays at whatever resolution you uploaded it as, it will not be bumped to 320kbps
and you need a USA SIM card for them to allow you to stream for the free songs, if they detect a NON USA SIM card it will just give you the message that currently it's only for the USA
proxying the server, only works on the PC
and you can proxy the phone too via WiFi with an USA carrier SIM card to fool it
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Google Music when download are 320 Kbps resolution, that means a 10 min song will be close to 32 MB each, now do your match and see how little songs you can put in the cache in the 13 GB of space left in the 16 GB version of the GN
so, to enjoy Google Music you'll need at least the 32GB version of GN
the next best thing is to use a USB key on the go, and keep it always plugged into the GN whenever you go around listening to music off your USB stick
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That's for songs you purchased from the Android store. For songs that you uploaded to it, I'm pretty sure the cached version will just be a copy of the version you uploaded, same bitrate and all.
you upload from the PC, not from your phone
the phone only caches whatever is on Google Music
so yes, you only get what you uploaded + whatever you purchased from Google Music
the thing is most audiophiles like me will keep/sync 320kbps music in storage, as anything less than 192kbps sounds really bad in the car deck
but if you want to save space, you can definitely go with 128kbps, but that's only okay with headphones from the phone
And we see the 1% eliminating choice and slowly tightening the noose, forcing us to pay them to listen to our music from both their music store and bandwidth costs....you KNOW this was part of the negotiations with the labels to get the music service up and running.
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you upload from the PC, not from your phone
the phone only caches whatever is on Google Music
so yes, you only get what you uploaded + whatever you purchased from Google Music
the thing is most audiophiles like me will keep/sync 320kbps music in storage, as anything less than 192kbps sounds really bad in the car deck
but if you want to save space, you can definitely go with 128kbps, but that's only okay with headphones from the phone
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If you are an audiophile, you will be using FLAC for archival, and V0 for mobile playback.
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That's for songs you purchased from the Android store. For songs that you uploaded to it, I'm pretty sure the cached version will just be a copy of the version you uploaded, same bitrate and all.
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They state that tracks their match their music on the servers will "upload quicker"(Read: Won't need to be uploaded at all since Google Music will simply use the copy on the server), given that, i think it's safe to assume that all files(that don't match) are uploaded and then converted to MP3.
If not, then atleast all the content is likely transcoded to MP3.
Infact, my entire collection is FLAC and i just went to music google and the file streamed is indeed a 16MB MP3, and with a track length of 7:11 that more or less corresponds with a file averaging out at a bitrate of 310 kbps
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They state that tracks their match their music on the servers will "upload quicker"(Read: Won't need to be uploaded at all since Google Music will simply use the copy on the server), given that, i think it's safe to assume that all files(that don't match) are uploaded and then converted to MP3.
If not, then atleast all the content is likely transcoded to MP3.
Infact, my entire collection is FLAC and i just went to music google and the file streamed is indeed a 16MB MP3, and with a track length of 7:11 that more or less corresponds with a file averaging out at a bitrate of 310 kbps
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http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1100462&topic=1100183
FLAC, aac, and ogg files are transcoded into 320kbps CBR MP3. For all other supported formats, absolutely no transcoding or matching will be done.
Sorry don't mean to sound dumb here but with this whole syncing to the cloud the music takes up space on the phone memory through caching? I thought the idea was so it doesn't waste space on the phone with its limited storage. I don't know much about this google music so don't flame too much, inncoent question hopefully will come to the uk soon!
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Sorry don't mean to sound dumb here but with this whole syncing to the cloud the music takes up space on the phone memory through caching? I thought the idea was so it doesn't waste space on the phone with its limited storage. I don't know much about this google music so don't flame too much, inncoent question hopefully will come to the uk soon!
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If you have an active data connection, (and until it comes this side of the pond, fooled them into thinking you're a citizen of the US) then it won't take up any space, it'll stream.
If you select songs for offline listening, they'll be cached on your device, using up space - but easily removed and replaced with something else when you change what you specify as available offline.
That's my (limited Brit) understanding of it.
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Sorry don't mean to sound dumb here but with this whole syncing to the cloud the music takes up space on the phone memory through caching? I thought the idea was so it doesn't waste space on the phone with its limited storage. I don't know much about this google music so don't flame too much, inncoent question hopefully will come to the uk soon!
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yes if you open Google Music, and select the option to make available offline
it will show you the amount of space left in your INTERNAL STORAGE of the phone, so if you only have 1 GB of space left, after Games / Apps, then you can only cache 1 GB of songs at 320 Kbps, using the 10 MB song file example pointed out earlier, you'll see you can roughly only cache aprox 30 songs give or take a few in 1 GB of space
... not much as you can see
Thanks guys that really helps! Good job Google put on all those extra data controls as this could really eat up data plans!
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Just checked the Nexus' new page, in features, it says:
The reason why I canceled the phone out of my list was because of the memory that seemed little for me. Why do I want a huge memory? It's because of music, I don't store movies, videos and other media. But with this new cloud feature works even with no data connection. Does that mean, I don't need an SD card? If that's true I'm definitely getting it, after all the memory was the only thing stopping me, and it was only because of music. Seeing I got my Samsung Wave with a full 16GB card full of music with absolutely nothing else.
Does that save me?
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Basically, the way it works is you can upload 20,000 songs. On your phone, whenever you listen to music, it streams to the device. If you listen to a particular song, album, or artist often, it downloads the tracks to your phone so you're not paying to stream them over and over again.
If you know you're going to be out of data connection, you can explicitly download ("cache") songs, albums, artists to your SDcard so that you can listen to them. When you're back in a data connection, you can choose to keep them downloaded, or clear them again to free up space.
In the settings, you can specifically set it to only stream on WiFi, or only download on WiFi, or both. You may want to do this if you're on a strict data cap. In this case you'd probably cache a couple albums on WiFi while at home before you leave the house to tide you over till you return again.
I've been using Google Music Beta for months and it works pretty damn seamlessly in my experiences.
I'm not sure what the appeal of having 25gigs (or whatever it is) of dropbox space with the One phones - if I stick 25gigs of music/movies or anything else in the dropbox cloud, it's not exactly instantly accessible data. It would take about 9 years to download that over 3g, so I can't see how it's a practical storage solution for a phone. Am I missing something? Maybe other countries have super-fast 3g alternatives... like 4g!
Also, there's been lots written about the HTC one phones, but I couldn't find anything about call quality - isn't that mad?! Nowadays the ability of a phone to function as a phone is worthy of maybe three lines in a 4-page review...
I didn't like the idea at first but I've started to use dropbox and Google music myself so now my phone is free for applications and such. Music plays instantly on google play and I can expand my collection beyond to what I can store on my phone and while images take a little longer than I'd like to open on dropbox, it's still good when the one x does run low on internal storage space.
We have a good network here in denmark and it's pretty speedy. I wish the Xl was quad though so I could make use of the 4g network here but I want quad tegra so it has to be the one x
I belive its not the information on the cloud, its like the Dropbox beta.
Im background, its runs a backup service that mirror your information to the web.
The problem is, what happend afther 2 years of "free contract".
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...Also, there's been lots written about the HTC one phones, but I couldn't find anything about call quality - isn't that mad?! Nowadays the ability of a phone to function as a phone is worthy of maybe three lines in a 4-page review...
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To be fair there has been very little written about the One X that isn't just based on quick hands on sessions at MWC. I've yet to see a review where the reviewer has actually had a phone for an extended period of time. Also as far as I know the phones at MWC did not have sim cards in them so no one yet has had chance to test that.
I agree its an important feature of a phone however with modern phones I think we just take it for granted that it will have good call quality. I'm sure by the end of next week there will be many people in this forum who can give you some more feedback. Also I dare say for many people phone quality is low down on their list...
Also don't forget the phone has 26gb of usable on device storage and if you really must carry around your complete movie and music collection to have at hand then it has USB host mode so you can plug a usb storage device into it.
Personally I intended to store music in google music, allowing me to stream my whole music collection if I want to, also allowing me to mark certain albums (the ones I want to listen to most) available offline so I don't need to stream over 3g when I'm off wifi and so I have access to them for those times when you have no internet connection. I will manage what I have offline and online during WIFI time.
Dropbox will store photo's, video (ones recorded on the device), documents and possibly device backups.
Local storage will be used to store videos which are transferred from my PC library when and if I need them (pre-planning needed). I have no need to store my entire movie collection on my phone...
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Also don't forget the phone has 26gb of usable on device storage...
Local storage will be used to store videos which are transferred from my PC library when and if I need them (pre-planning needed). I have no need to store my entire movie collection on my phone...
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I agree - to be honest, I'm not too bothered about space. 32gb (or however much is usable) is fine for me. I'll just load up whatever films/music I want on the phone before any long journey. I'm unlikely to need hundreds of films or albums on the phone at any one time.
Last time I tried streaming music on my phone - though spotify - it was painfully slow, so maybe I'll try again & see if it's actually usable.
I wouldn't upload the data on Dropbox which you really need all day, just the things for home and sharing some files or just for uploading the pictures to clean up your mass storage.
With Google Music and or a subscription service like Spotify music is covered. The streaming is actually good on Google Music as long as you don't need Flac! Why would you it's a mobile device!
The cloud backup is more than adequate, got a Box 50GB account and Dropbox 25GB account plenty of space. Most my HD videos get taken off the phone and backed up onto my server and or uploaded to YouTube so that's taken care of. I don't watch movies on the go, and have Flickr Pro account where all my photos get uploaded to.
So I think 32GB should be ample enough for my needs.
i have found a couple of dropbox music players wich works pretty good but the ui isnt that good but manageable , i have a google music account,a spotify subsrcription, a box 50gb account and 37gb dropbox account (87 in total 50gb wich i will cancel) and that plus the 25gb we get from htc is more than enough space so the HOX's internal storage won't be an issue for me
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Also I dare say for many people phone quality is low down on their list...
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It sounds silly, but I use my phone so little for calling that it really is the least of my worries. I don't really 'do' long phone calls with friends and I have a business phone for, uh, business purposes!
Also, many of my calls are over Bluetooth hands free, using my car stereo (I spend a lot of time on the road) and the quality over that isn't brilliant regardless of the phone.
Not knocking those who do care a lot, just giving another PoV!
The 2 year deal bothers me. But i have 8gb already plus box.net 50gb, and 4shared 25gb (you get 25 when you register and its for life). I use an app called audiogalaxy that makes me able to stream my whole mp3 collection from my computer and it even works on 2g, without any audio compression. And you can stream sd video on 3g via ftp + mx video. Ive been fine with a 2gb microsd for a year so i dont think storage will be a problem.
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Used to think cloud would be bad but then 2 hard drives and a USB failed in a week so much data lost I love the fact if my phone brakes all my photos are safe and well.
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My Note arrived. It's great but weird having used iPhones for the last 6 years. I feel somewhat uncomfortable using it but that's because I'm still finding my way around.
Anyway I have a question. I don't get how to use Samsung cloud. I don't get how to back up my photos. It's saying I've used 150MB of cloud storage but I have around 1.5GB of photos. I've also moved all my photos from SD card to internal pictures folder. Any help?
Thanks
Using IOS for six years and then moving to Android is such a big jump most people wouldnt dare, so, seriously, hats off to you.
Anyway, since you are new to Android, I would suggest to just use the Google photos App and backup everything (photos) to your google account and you would get much more freedom.
y2kkingboy said:
Using IOS for six years and then moving to Android is such a big jump most people wouldnt dare, so, seriously, hats off to you.
Anyway, since you are new to Android, I would suggest to just use the Google photos App and backup everything (photos) to your google account and you would get much more freedom.
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Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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Since I use Windows, I never needed an application to transfer music or files from my laptop and this is the case with most if not all Android phones. I would suggest to download Kies (which is like Itunes of Samsung phones), just google Kies for Mac and it will be your first hit.
I am suggesting Kies for another motive, which is you might have a driver problem that does not work well when you connect the phone to your laptop. So when you install the software it will probably fix that and you would not need the software ever again *fingers crossed*. Or you can use Kies anyway, you might like it.
Andr3w_95 said:
Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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I too switched from iOS to android which meant I needed to transfer my iTunes library to my note 7. I used something called isyncr which is free on the desktop available for windows and Mac but it costs £7.99 in the Google play store (unless you want the extremely limited free version). Anyway, I bought it and it was super easy to setup, you select specific playlists, srtistd, albums whatever you want. Then it took about like 10-15 minutes and I transferred nearly 2000 songs onto my SD card. It was really handy.
Hey guys,
The storage manager shows me that I use 100 gb from 128
And 60 gb is used by "other apps".
No matter what storage analyser I tried, I can't find where is that 60gb
It doesn't appear in nowhere.
The things is see sums to 40gb +-
Thanks
Gonna bump this because I'd really like to know what it is as well. I have a xiaomi device, and 12gb out of 128 is used by "Other apps". My internal storage is only 7gb in total, system is around 14gb, and apps are 12gb, so this should only total to 33gb out of 128, but 46gb is used out of 128. Really confused.
Roy_Alter said:
Hey guys,
The storage manager shows me that I use 100 gb from 128
And 60 gb is used by "other apps".
No matter what storage analyser I tried, I can't find where is that 60gb
It doesn't appear in nowhere.
The things is see sums to 40gb +-
Thanks
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It's kind of right in front of you.
If you have a NAS drive or a Computer with larger hard drive.
It's time to do some Spring Cleaning.
See all those Images and Videos you have there.... cut and paste them to your PC via regular USB transfer.
that means everything under the Camera folder.
Next major candidate, if you are using WhatsApp and WeChat, do the same thing, but for its own folder.
Then repeat again for any other social media App you have.
AllGamer said:
It's kind of right in front of you.
If you have a NAS drive or a Computer with larger hard drive.
It's time to do some Spring Cleaning.
See all those Images and Videos you have there.... cut and paste them to your PC via regular USB transfer.
that means everything under the Camera folder.
Next major candidate, if you are using WhatsApp and WeChat, do the same thing, but for its own folder.
Then repeat again for any other social media App you have.
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Tried this, still shows 11/12gb. Already checked my whatsapp files size, it's included in the whatsapp data section on its info page. All photos and media are shown seperately.
I don't know if this helps or not but about 2 years ago, was working with a coworker and they had a cheap phone with little internal storage, and he couldn't figure out where all of his space went. Come to find out, Chrome was taking up 2+GB! Check app cache for apps you rarely use and clear those, then go from there.
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I don't know if this helps or not but about 2 years ago, was working with a coworker and they had a cheap phone with little internal storage, and he couldn't figure out where all of his space went. Come to find out, Chrome was taking up 2+GB! Check app cache for apps you rarely use and clear those, then go from there.
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i doubt app cache can amount to 10gb, especially when i dont have many apps installed on MY device. Either way, I use the cleanup tool, which does clear cache, and still see no difference.