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Did the leak make anyone decide on getting the Nexus?

So playing around with the leak the past day and half has made me decide that I'll be getting the Nexus when it comes out, or waiting for another ICS device released with it out the box.
It was way to Gingerbread feeling for me. It didn't feel new to me. Even with the ICS launcher instead of the TW one. I know it isn't a final release, but this is basically what we are going to see.
I also know the devs do an awesome job for this phone, but I don't know if they are going to fix this up good enough for me not to just jump on what ICS was meant to be.
I understand why Samsung did it this way, but huge disappointment.

You do realize that someone, here in our very own forum, is working on putting aosp on our phone, right? Which means it will be _exactly_ what ics was meant to be.

tejasrichard said:
You do realize that someone, here in our very own forum, is working on putting aosp on our phone, right? Which means it will be _exactly_ what ics was meant to be.
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I realize that, but we still don't have an AOSP GB that works perfectly......
Like I said I love the devs....but idk I'll wait and see if they get it done.

Go get the Nexus, enjoy!

I might be a minority in thought, but I actually am not impressed with ASOP, for some reason, it just feels a little half baked. Back in the day, I flashed an ASOP rom on my original Epic and EVO, and let a normal user try it for a day. They looked so lost compared to their iPhone.
Not wanting to make this into a pissing match, but I see the appeal of overlays such as TouchWiz or HTC Sense. From a customer experience perspective, the overlay is what sells the device, not the version of Android. The users of this board, and similar forums, make up a small percentage of actual buyers.

gpgorbosjr said:
Even with the ICS launcher instead of the TW one. I know it isn't a final release, but this is basically what we are going to see.
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does not compute. ICS launcher on our phone will be the same as the ICS launcher on the Nexus....

DevalB said:
I might be a minority in thought, but I actually am not impressed with ASOP, for some reason, it just feels a little half baked. Back in the day, I flashed an ASOP rom on my original Epic and EVO, and let a normal user try it for a day. They looked so lost compared to their iPhone.
Not wanting to make this into a pissing match, but I see the appeal of overlays such as TouchWiz or HTC Sense. From a customer experience perspective, the overlay is what sells the device, not the version of Android. The users of this board, and similar forums, make up a small percentage of actual buyers.
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It is AOSP. And a normal user is an iPhone user? This statement is just full of not adding up, huh?
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Nothing wrong with it... Its ics power with the colorfull look and feel of gb... Its a phone patna not a lexus!
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Galaxy !?!?!
Pshhhh
iPhone is where it's at

cnstarz said:
does not compute. ICS launcher on our phone will be the same as the ICS launcher on the Nexus....
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If I'm not mistaken you cannot resize widgets on our phone like you can with the Nexus....
Also, I'm wondering if the widgets function differently on a normal ICS install....for example adding a contact to the home screen. On the preview it shows that what they text you comes up on the home screen, but in actual usage of it only their name comes up and never switches from that..

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If I'm not mistaken you cannot resize widgets on our phone like you can with the Nexus....
Also, I'm wondering if the widgets function differently on a normal ICS install....for example adding a contact to the home screen. On the preview it shows that what they text you comes up on the home screen, but in actual usage of it only their name comes up and never switches from that..
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that's because we only have a leaked beta version...

cnstarz said:
that's because we only have a leaked beta version...
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I'm not convinced, but we will see......
Are the new ICS widgets available using the TW Launcher? I am currently restoring EL29 and can't check. I thought they didn't when I was using it but am not sure.
I'm not totally convinced Samsung intends on including some of the features like resizing widgets, but I guess I'll have to wait and find out...

Samsung will try o deliver as much of a user-friendly experience as they can.
Remember that Google put a lot of restrictions on OEM skins with ICS. You aren't going to get the heavy skinning on ICS like you did with GB. They did this because they want ICS to look like ICS, not TouchWiz, MotoBlur, or Sense. That's why you have the option to revert to the ICS launcher. If you want AOSP experience, simply stick with Calkulin's leaked version and run ICS launcher until Cyanogen comes out with CM9.
But then again, I don't make six figures and have $600+ to blow on a Nexus, so.

dude
I've had the ics on my nexus and also on my vibrant but ONCE again the potential of this device overshadows any type of os for me and for most .. idk I just find myself actually using the browser ..phone ... apps..watching movies more than the little things a lot of the people talk about getting a nexus s for.... I say have fun I'm about the go not the show. Just like my cars

azyouthinkeyeiz said:
It is AOSP. And a normal user is an iPhone user? This statement is just full of not adding up, huh?
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Yeah that's what happens when you think faster than you type.
What I was trying to say is that when you compare ICS as a build and UI experience, it is catching up, but there is a reason why overlays such as Sense and TouchWiz exist, as they really improve the experience for that common Android user. I've used the Nexus, and I still go back to the Epic Touch, just feels better in my opinion.

iSaint said:
Galaxy !?!?!
Pshhhh
iPhone is where it's at
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Pffft yeah right! It's all about the galaxy nexus
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Tripsyk said:
Samsung will try o deliver as much of a user-friendly experience as they can.
Remember that Google put a lot of restrictions on OEM skins with ICS. You aren't going to get the heavy skinning on ICS like you did with GB. They did this because they want ICS to look like ICS, not TouchWiz, MotoBlur, or Sense. That's why you have the option to revert to the ICS launcher. If you want AOSP experience, simply stick with Calkulin's leaked version and run ICS launcher until Cyanogen comes out with CM9.
But then again, I don't make six figures and have $600+ to blow on a Nexus, so.
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Neither do I, but I didn't use my upgrade on my E4GT.....I used a combination of my old phones and some video games in a Craigslist trade. So I still have an upgrade for when the Nexus comes out, but I was hoping to keep the E4GT and wait on the upgrade if ICS impressed me enough on it.

gpgorbosjr said:
If I'm not mistaken you cannot resize widgets on our phone like you can with the Nexus....
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I am running NOVA right now and I am able to resize widgets, there is an option in NOVA settings. i am not sure about AOSP launcher but you can do it with NOVA.

durhamite said:
I am running NOVA right now and I am able to resize widgets, there is an option in NOVA settings. i am not sure about AOSP launcher but you can do it with NOVA.
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I'll check it out when one of the devs get a smoother ICS rom up and running.
I actually went back to Blazer for now because the phone ran a little bit sluggish compared to GB and sometimes my notifications dont work....if I turned system sounds off it would stop my text notifications....and the vibration doesn't work unless the phone is on vibrate.......both things I understand are from it being a leak.

I applaud the dev's for putting up with so much whining. It's a beta build leak and the aosp is an alpha build. If dev dont release a beta build people whine saying it takes to long. When they give this forum whatever they have finished so far... more whining about bugs and stuff not working... -_- .

Can the GN ever be as smooth as an iPhone 4S?

Alright, you're gonna be mad about the topic but I'm being honest here.
I never had a nexus phone and I was hoping that if I got a Galaxy Nexus, the phone wouldn't stutter (in browser and in apps) and it does. On websites the stuttering when scrolling is annoying. The phone is fast (home screen, app drawer, settings) but a lot of apps are jittery and not fluid.
I'm running AOKP Milestone 4 with Lean Kernel v2.4.
So my question is, is it possible to get the Galaxy Nexus to be as smooth as an iPhone? Some reasons would be good because there's no doubting the 4s is very fluid with rare if any hiccups.
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what apps...all mine are as smooth as the iphone.

AOKP is the king of extra features, but if you want smooth you should try Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast.

The selling point if the iphone 4s is Suri.
My buddy tried to show it off and it didn't work at all.
He was really embarrassed.. It screwed up everything.
I showed him my nexus, and then I proceeded to pull 15 down 13 up in a speed test.
Boy was he jealous of my Nexus.

If all you care about is smooth scrolling, use the stock firmware. It's smoother than most ROMs, but lacks many features in the custom ROMs.
Don't forget, you're running a beta version of community created code. We don't have as much access to the hardware as the original designers, and can't optimize things as easily.
Whinging about it not being as smooth as an iPhone when you're running user created firmware is like complaining that the shelves you built yourself aren't as nice as the ones that your friend paid a professional carpenter to create.
AOKP runs great for most people, myself included, but there are tradeoffs for the extra features.

also, one more thing you gotta take into consideration is that aokp is more for customization. you want more of a rom that works only on stability. i havnt tried m4, but i do know that bamf is amazingly smooth. and alsooo when was the last time you saw the 4s? sure you can slide smoothly but doesnt it matter much more how quick you can load the page? try a diff browser also... mines working perfectly on google chrome and stock.

RobbieCrash said:
If all you care about is smooth scrolling, use the stock firmware. It's smoother than most ROMs, but lacks many features in the custom ROMs.
Don't forget, you're running a beta version of community created code. We don't have as much access to the hardware as the original designers, and can't optimize things as easily.
Whinging about it not being as smooth as an iPhone when you're running user created firmware is like complaining that the shelves you built yourself aren't as nice as the ones that your friend paid a professional carpenter to create.
AOKP runs great for most people, myself included, but there are tradeoffs for the extra features.
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That's a poor analogy. The ROM devs are not building these ROMs from scratch, they are making relatively small changes to the code provided by Google. A better analogy would be assembling an office desk from IKEA (store that sells put-it-together-yourself furniture for you non-U.S. folk) vs having a carpenter friend put it together. Sure your friend might drill a hold here or there to make the fit better, but he isn't carving the shelf out of lumber.

-- also, one more thing you gotta take into consideration is that aokp is more for customization. you want more of a rom that works only on stability. i havnt tried m4, but i do know that bamf is amazingly smooth. and alsooo when was the last time you saw the 4s? sure you can slide smoothly but doesnt it matter much more how quick you can load the page? try a diff browser also... mines working perfectly on google chrome and stock. --
stock browser and chrome are jerky but the stock browser is a little better
Stock software was slow for me too, worse than AOKP M4
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-- what apps...all mine are as smooth as the iphone. --
XDA, web browser, maps
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-- AOKP is the king of extra features, but if you want smooth you should try Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast. --
Ok I'll try bugless beast ans see if it helps
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android will never be as smooth as the iphone, its running a dalvik client

Do iPhone users just get Android phones and swipe and down all day to see how fluid it moves. You guys know there is much more to the phone then just scrolling pages up and down, right?
You also realize the device is pushing a higher resolution then an iPhone as well so a lot more pixels are in play.
Seriously, even if the GN scrolled smoother then it already does, I don't think I would really give a sh.t......It would not change my experience in the least.

BlackDino said:
android will never be as smooth as the iphone, its running a dalvik client
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Not to mention iPhone 4S GPU absolutely blows away any other mobile GPU on the market, and on top of that pushes fewer pixels.
iPhone 4S is a graphical beast.

Have you turned on Hardware Acceleration in the Settings?

qtx said:
Have you turned on Hardware Acceleration in the Settings?
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Yes, it's turned on

matt2053 said:
Not to mention iPhone 4S GPU absolutely blows away any other mobile GPU on the market, and on top of that pushes fewer pixels.
iPhone 4S is a graphical beast.
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The iPhone 4 is smooth as well and the GPU isn't as good as the iPhone 4S

[email protected] said:
Do iPhone users just get Android phones and swipe and down all day to see how fluid it moves. You guys know there is much more to the phone then just scrolling pages up and down, right?
You also realize the device is pushing a higher resolution then an iPhone as well so a lot more pixels are in play.
Seriously, even if the GN scrolled smoother then it already does, I don't think I would really give a sh.t......It would not change my experience in the least.
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Jerky scrolling is annoying (in the browser and in XDA app)...it's as if the frame rate is running at 20fps as opposed to 60fps

BlackDino said:
android will never be as smooth as the iphone, its running a dalvik client
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If that's true then that sucks.

crossover37 said:
If that's true then that sucks.
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of course its true, everything is in java

and of course don't forget about the fact that Android handles the UI in a different way compared to iOS (the UI isn't prioritised or something along those lines).

Is ICS really that good?

I don't know :/ Initially everything I read about it suggested that it used some form of hardware acceleration to make phones run much smoother. However, after seeing many speed tests between the Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus (both using TI OMAP4 chips, razr has GB and GN uses ICS) the Razr smokes the Nexus in every aspect. And I understand there are many other factors involved that could play into that, but in general it seems people's experiences with ICS point to it being much more bogged down then GB ever was. I don't know, anyone else have thoughts on this :/

Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.

It probably just depends on optimization and other stuffs. Processor doesn't determine everything, although it does help. I personally like the TW ICS and it's pretty smooth to me.

Ics gapps like youtube is one of the big big reasons why I stay and its just something different from gingerbread.
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EpicFlair said:
Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/

ICS on my phone is a minimum upgrade that works good for me but when my tab went from Honeycomb to ICS it made a much larger impact. I think ICS brings all the capable devices together and Jellybean will be the one that solidifies Android.
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We all love something new, and we all love eyecandy.
If GB is working fine for you right now, you won't gain much at all moving to ICS.

The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.

pbassjunk said:
The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?

batting1000 said:
So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*

MultiLockOn said:
Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
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Google is on a yearly release schedule for major Android releases. Jelly Bean or whatever it'll be called was planned well before ICS was shown to the public.
And ICS on skinned devices isn't much of an upgrade, especially with the mess that is Touchwiz. This is due to the (correct) belief on Samsung's part that Android is more complicated and "ugly" than the average user wants/expects. Some of their feature enhancements are useful, but the visual is just awful. On its own, Touchwiz isn't worse than vanilla GB, but you can't use Touchwiz on its own. There are always elements of vanilla GB that show and that makes the entire thing an uncoordinated mess.
Android has reached a point where Google can work on refining the OS with small features. More importantly, ICS is the start of a unified and unique theme that can set Android visually apart from iOS and WP7 which look much better than any Android phone shipping with GB.
Of course, none of that matters since OEMs insist on skinning their phones. I had hoped Samsung would've followed HTC and toned down the skinning for the new version of Touchwiz, but that was a pipe dream considering the number of SGSII's they sold. My biggest problem with Touchwiz is that it doesn't mesh with the Holo theme at all which I hope app developers would use, allowing for a more unified Android look.
What I'm trying to say is: No, ICS is not that much of an upgrade from GB. But, ICS is that important to Android and its future.

pbassjunk said:
[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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I actually love ICS especially the last few leaks. Everything seems so fast and efficient to me
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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JohnCorleone said:
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.

kingdazy said:
now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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Yeah Miui with 4g will be huge! He solved it on NS4G and is building a ROM now. After that (or maybe already) other Miui.us guys like TCP should have access to his code or changes to the code
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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in its stock form hell yea

TrayLunch said:
I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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How do you do that?
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Well, I had it switched from the touchwiz launcher to the stock launcher. I don't think that makes a difference though. Manage apps> all> select an app> if it's a stock app instead of the uninstall option, it'll have disable. Beats the greyed out block that's on GB.
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Majin101 said:
Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Totally agree with you, and I did the latter because of the battery life and I'm waiting for them to polish out the bugs I found. The title of the thread is asking for peoples opinions and evaluations of ICS. You have to understand that some people are not going to share your point of view.
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The softkey glow animation should be off by default in all roms

The softkey glow animation causes unnecessary lag on pretty much every device other than the transformer prime in my experience and even there its not perfect. I don't get why this animation was added in ICS. I wasn't part of honeycomb. My rom I use on my nexus has it off by default (winner00's cm9 kang) but its fraustrating that stock this phone even has this animation. It causes so much extra lag that the phone doesn't need and the animation looks like crap most of the time anyway. The most obvious times I see this lag are when hitting the back button from the app drawer, and hitting the back button with the notification draw open. With the animation its unsmooth on both things. With the animation off or removed both of those animations are 60fps. Google removed the menu selection fade in 4.04, I think its time that they remove this one as well, or at least make it standard in all cm9 roms as my friends touchpad still has this animation. AOKP has an option to remove it but in my experience that rom has some weird lag issues when closing the app drawer anyway.
The problem with this being standard turned on is the stock roms for many devices like the Asus Tranformer tf101 have this glowing animation and it causes lag. Its a bad precedent to set.

Does it really matter what the default option is? You know there's an option to turn it off, so use it. I personally like the animation, running on AOKP and it's glass smooth all the time.
The point of a custom rom is to give you extra options and performance... not to completely alter the way the phone behaves (unless you're going to MIUI, but if you're doing that you know that you're going to get drastic changes). When i install a custom ROM, i expect that all the defaults will have my phone working just as it did when it was on stock - from there, i can customize to my liking.

I remember when the Nexus One came out, and shortly after that Google decided to implement Live Wallpapers. Every time you enabled a live wallpaper the home screen lagged, and to top it off it would eat your battery life to keep it running. Then a year later the next generation of phones came out and live wallpapers were no longer a problem.
Google always implements unnecessary eye candy that bogs down your phone. It's a way to show people the difference that it makes to upgrade your hardware every one or two years, because you can pretty much guarantee that this year's new phones will have absolutely no difficulty running little touches like this, whereas last year's phones will chug.
Most consumers don't care if it's laggy. They see the glowing buttons and think it's the best thing since sliced bread, since neither the iPhone nor WP7 have it. Then once the next Nexus comes out they'll see even more button effects and spend even more money on it.
Don't get butthurt just because you're not the target audience.

earlyberd said:
I remember when the Nexus One came out, and shortly after that Google decided to implement Live Wallpapers. Every time you enabled a live wallpaper the home screen lagged, and to top it off it would eat your battery life to keep it running. Then a year later the next generation of phones came out and live wallpapers were no longer a problem.
Google always implements unnecessary eye candy that bogs down your phone. It's a way to show people the difference that it makes to upgrade your hardware every one or two years, because you can pretty much guarantee that this year's new phones will have absolutely no difficulty running little touches like this, whereas last year's phones will chug.
Most consumers don't care if it's laggy. They see the glowing buttons and think it's the best thing since sliced bread, since neither the iPhone nor WP7 have it. Then once the next Nexus comes out they'll see even more button effects and spend even more money on it.
Don't get butthurt just because you're not the target audience.
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The problem is, unlike live wallpapers, unless your rom added an option to turn this off, there is no way to do so. There is no way to turn this option off on the stock rom and many builds of cm9 don't have an option either. If you haven't tried winner00's cm9 if your on the verizon nexus, try it. The difference is hugely noticeable. AOKP in my experience seems to have lag in the app drawer even with the glow animaton off regardless of which launcher you use.

Agreed. The choppy animation drives me crazy. I'm 100% stock and proud but I might go back to the dark side and flash a custom rom because of this.
Surely this is easily fixable for Google and they are aware of the problem.
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No lag at all for me running Apex rom
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Lol. I'm on 4.0.4 IMM76I and the animation is completely fluid. Why do you even care about the key glow? I don't even look at the keys when using the phone
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blockbusta said:
Lol. I'm on 4.0.4 IMM76I and the animation is completely fluid. Why do you even care about the key glow? I don't even look at the keys when using the phone
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I want the glow gone lol.
Heres a comparison video of cm9 kang(winner00) which doesn't have the glow and official cm9 build 5-7 that has the glow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7HwdKmvtk&feature=youtube_gdata

earlyberd said:
I remember when the Nexus One came out, and shortly after that Google decided to implement Live Wallpapers. Every time you enabled a live wallpaper the home screen lagged, and to top it off it would eat your battery life to keep it running. Then a year later the next generation of phones came out and live wallpapers were no longer a problem.
Google always implements unnecessary eye candy that bogs down your phone. It's a way to show people the difference that it makes to upgrade your hardware every one or two years, because you can pretty much guarantee that this year's new phones will have absolutely no difficulty running little touches like this, whereas last year's phones will chug.
Most consumers don't care if it's laggy. They see the glowing buttons and think it's the best thing since sliced bread, since neither the iPhone nor WP7 have it. Then once the next Nexus comes out they'll see even more button effects and spend even more money on it.
Don't get butthurt just because you're not the target audience.
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i don't agree with anything you said. most consumers do care if it's laggy; that's why the get the iphone. people don't "ooh and ahh" about glowing buttons -- this is not the year 2000.
finally, there is no way in hell that the purpose of google adding "unnecessary eye candy" is to show how much better hardware is getting when the next generation of devices is released.
quit your trolling, pal -- your long-winded response really proved nothing.

thenamesian said:
i don't agree with anything you said. most consumers do care if it's laggy; that's why the get the iphone. people don't "ooh and ahh" about glowing buttons -- this is not the year 2000.
finally, there is no way in hell that the purpose of google adding "unnecessary eye candy" is to show how much better hardware is getting when the next generation of devices is released.
quit your trolling, pal -- your long-winded response really proved nothing.
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Sheeple do not get the iPhone due to Android lag...

blackhand1001 said:
I want the glow gone lol.
Heres a comparison video of cm9 kang(winner00) which doesn't have the glow and official cm9 build 5-7 that has the glow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7HwdKmvtk&feature=youtube_gdata
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i watched ur video, and i see no performance difference in the two. looks/sounds like u just being anal...like 90% of xda. quit crying. u own the best phone out...enjoy it or mod the hell outta it, but dont be mad...

blackhand1001 said:
I want the glow gone lol.
Heres a comparison video of cm9 kang(winner00) which doesn't have the glow and official cm9 build 5-7 that has the glow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7HwdKmvtk&feature=youtube_gdata
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This might sound weird.

So I've been around android and xda a long while. I've had countless android devices, none of which I was ever really blown away by. HTC magic was my first and nexus 4 was my last, and everything in between. Anyway, I recently grew tired of the same old and don't judge me, bought a Nokia lumia 810. Obviously completely different aspect and in my opinion wp8 has huge potential. I used it for a few days and found the hardware to be of insane quality, but the obvious was usability with lack of apps I normally use or apps that were missing options. So, I went back to my long tucked away gsm galaxy nexus and installed latest purity with fancy kernel. Instant red gratification. So, my question is, did 4.3 really improve that much in fluidity of the os as whole, because 4.3 feels a lot different compared to 4.2.2. It could be me being impartial in a subliminal mind type of way to android since I've been with it for almost 4 years. I was trying to convince myself that I needed a change and thought although beautiful, wp8 was the answer. Sorry for the rant.

well battery life's certainly been improved IMO
and the UI shows much less lag than 4.2.2

First run with a year and a half old battery gave me 4 1/2 hours sot. The gnex has definitely been revitalized

xD
Sounds like me.

4.3 definitely fixed the lag issue 4.2.2 had, but thats about all that has changed in jellybean, can't wait for klp.

fux0r99 said:
4.3 definitely fixed the lag issue 4.2.2 had, but thats about all that has changed in jellybean, can't wait for klp.
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yes, 4.3 fixed the lag issue 4.2.2. you may better check again.