I'm wondering to what extent it is possible to control the behaviour of the USB port on Android devices - clearly there is room for latitude as 2.2 gave us USB tethering. I'm hypothesising about whether it would be possible to a) write an emulation of the iPod/iPhone's behaviour when docked to a car stereo via USB or failing that (which, I guess would take a lot of reverse-engineering) just USB MTP mode to allow USB-supporting car stereos to playback music from the Android phone without unmounting the SD card... (which is a pain as crappy Kenwood stereos dramatically alter the handling of random when playing files from a mass storage device - it's by folder only rather than having an option to shuffle the whole library) If the USB interface driver kept track of what files it was serving to the USB host, you could even scrobble playback information while connected to the car stereo to Last.fm (something I used to be able to do on a jailbroken iPhone and miss on Android.)
Of course, you could just take the easy approach and use A2DP, I guess, but I'd have to buy a new bluetooth module for my stereo to do that, and I'd guess many are in a situation where this would be unfeasible.
Hi, i connect my DHD to my car stereo via the micro USB port at the DHD's bottom.
I subsequently get a prompt that asked me whether i want to have the USB behave as a charge only, SD card, HTC sync, Internet tether... I choose SD card.
Here is where the problem is. Audio works fine, i am able to get it streamed to my car stereo over USB. But when i try to play video files , the phone reports that the SD card is locked (since the car steroe is accessing the sd card for audio files i believe).
Are there any work around this? I would like to watch video and have the sound from the video audible through my car stereo speakers, all through the micro usb port.
I used to be able to do this using the iphone dock port.
This will never work unless your car stereo has a stereo/mini-stereo Aux in.
For a few days now the external audio isn't working anymore and if I set the System Settings->Accessory->Use External Speakers when docked all audio players start behaving weird.
Sometime I get the message that the audio format of the file isn't supported or the file starts playing with abnormal his speed (perhaps 3 times as fast) but in any case no sound is heard.
Sometimes I have to reboot the phone to get it straight again.
With the internal speaker or anything plugged directly into the phone headset output all audio plays perfectly.
Any ideas?
Hikanio
What kernel are you using. . Did you change the kernel recently. . If so try the stweaks audio settings
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What kernel are you using. . Did you change the kernel recently. . If so try the stweaks audio settings
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I am still on the unrooted Standard Kernel 3.0.31-1071214, so I wonder if there are others experiencing the same issue.
Problem solved: related to USB cable from charger to docking station
I just found the cause for the problem:
The USB cable between the original Samsung charger and the docking station was changed.
Although charging in the docking station obviously worked fine, it seems the the resistance of the cable caused a voltage drop in the docking station that lead to the malfunction.
Beware of the charging cable and the high current our smarphone draws from it.
Cheers
Hikanio
Further to this, I just discovered that the dock audio will not work for me when connected to a USB port for charging: I had to connect the mains charger and then the audio worked! It does seem to be a current issue.
Cheers - Andrew
O-for-two...<grumble-grumble> :crying:
Upgraded my factory cassette car stereo to a new one with usb port (no bluetooth), thinking I could both stream the phone's audio and charge the battery via usb.
Well, the battery's levels actually decrease when plugged in, and more to the point, the phone isn't recognized in usb mode in the stereo and quickly goes to radio mode and the phone displays the following message (please see attached screenshot)...
...my phone is stock, not rooted. Stereo is not bluetooth-enabled, and I would prefer to stream via usb than the aux port.
-> Can anyone advise any tweaks or apps that would enable the phone's streaming audio to be played via the stereo's USB mode?
Thanks in advance!
What kind of car? I used to have problems in my Saab.
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What kind of car? I used to have problems in my Saab.
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Thanks for the reply.
It's a 4Runner.
Hoping to focus here on how to get the devices to recognize one another...
That's weird. Maybe a driver issue with the stereo? Does it have a hard drive? Never used stereo with usb port. I think my wife's suv has one.
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What stereo is it?
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That's weird. Maybe a driver issue with the stereo? Does it have a hard drive? Never used stereo with usb port. I think my wife's suv has one.
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The stereo is very basic, no hd.
Anyone know of any tweaks/downloads I can make to the phone in order to get the audio properly streamed via usb?
4umexdeeay said:
The stereo is very basic, no hd.
Anyone know of any tweaks/downloads I can make to the phone in order to get the audio properly streamed via usb?
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I have a similiar radio. No bluetooth but a usb on the front and an audio input on the front. As I understand it the stereo itself can't access the phone this way. It doesn't have drivers to recognize the Samsung phone. Think about it. you plug your phone into your computer by usb but you have to download and install drivers for the two to work together. Mine from the looks of it has Iphone drivers built in but nothing for android. You can probably plug a thumb drive in loaded with music and it'll play. What I do is use a stereo cable from headphone output on the phone to the audio in on the stereo. If I need to charge it I have the standard car charger for that.
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Upgraded my factory cassette car stereo to a new one with usb port (no bluetooth), thinking I could both stream the phone's audio and charge the battery via usb.
Well, the battery's levels actually decrease when plugged in, and more to the point, the phone isn't recognized in usb mode in the stereo and quickly goes to radio mode and the phone displays the following message (please see attached screenshot)... [/B]
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Youre doing it wrong
The reason the battery is decreasing is the amount of current drawn from the device. Either the radio is not strong enough to supply the right current or the phone is recognizing it as a computer and limiting the draw to 500ma. My rough estimates show that the phone uses closer to 750ma while in use just to run. You can verify how much power it is drawing with this simple application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free
You could try to install a kernel that allows you to override the amount of power drawn from the port. I was the first to request the feature and Ktoonsez was nice enough to implement it into his kernel. Now you can set the AC and Computer USB draw to any amount you like.
Secondly, why did you think you could play audio through USB in the first place? I guess it would be possible if the radio supports MTP but then the phone would be acting more like a USB stick and you would have to choose the files manually on the radio itself.
If you really don't want to use an Aux cable then I suggest buying a bluetooth dongle and connecting it to the rear AUX inputs on the radio. They are relatively cheap and you can install it inside the dash never to be seen again.
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Youre doing it wrong
The reason the battery is decreasing is the amount of current drawn from the device. Either the radio is not strong enough to supply the right current or the phone is recognizing it as a computer and limiting the draw to 500ma. My rough estimates show that the phone uses closer to 750ma while in use just to run. You can verify how much power it is drawing with this simple application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free
You could try to install a kernel that allows you to override the amount of power drawn from the port. I was the first to request the feature and Ktoonsez was nice enough to implement it into his kernel. Now you can set the AC and Computer USB draw to any amount you like.
Secondly, why did you think you could play audio through USB in the first place? I guess it would be possible if the radio supports MTP but then the phone would be acting more like a USB stick and you would have to choose the files manually on the radio itself.
If you really don't want to use an Aux cable then I suggest buying a bluetooth dongle and connecting it to the rear AUX inputs on the radio. They are relatively cheap and you can install it inside the dash never to be seen again.
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This is all really helpful info, thanks
Yeah, not sure why I thought I could stream via usb either, must've been mixing up the functions of that and the aux cable.
-> So I'm familiar with a bluetooth dongle that connects via usb (...think that would work properly in a car stereo too?) - but you're recommending a dongle that connects internally? Know where I'd find that for sale?
1st, my assumption is you're rooted...?
If no=Boohoo... Root or buy stereo with Bluetooth.
If yes= install this app... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.samsungusbmassstorageenabler
Open it, grant it root privileges, click the "mass usb" (I think its called), and profit!
*Music must be on external card.
<-- my thank you is over there
Do you have an auxillary input option on the stereo? 3.5mm jack...
The advantage is that it's guarenteed to work.
The disadvantage is that you can't control the song selection from the stereo. You have to do it from the phone.
Also, could it be there you store the music? If it's on an external SD card I can see where that would fail. Maybe if it was on the internal memory? Remember the car stereo probably isn't real bright. If it doesn't find what it's looking for where it expects to find it, it won't keep looking.
You might have to have it stored in a specificly named directory on the phone too.
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So I'm familiar with a bluetooth dongle that connects via usb (...think that would work properly in a car stereo too?) - but you're recommending a dongle that connects internally? Know where I'd find that for sale?
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"Internally" meaning it goes inside the dash, behind the radio. Its just a bluetooth receiver with an audio output (either a headphone jack or RCA cables)
If you want listen to music over "USB" you can get certain touch screen radios that will mirror your phones display
4umexdeeay said:
O-for-two...<grumble-grumble> :crying:
Upgraded my factory cassette car stereo to a new one with usb port (no bluetooth), thinking I could both stream the phone's audio and charge the battery via usb.
Well, the battery's levels actually decrease when plugged in, and more to the point, the phone isn't recognized in usb mode in the stereo and quickly goes to radio mode and the phone displays the following message (please see attached screenshot)...
...my phone is stock, not rooted. Stereo is not bluetooth-enabled, and I would prefer to stream via usb than the aux port.
On the bench after testing all the functions and ready to install....
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-> Can anyone advise any tweaks or apps that would enable the phone's streaming audio to be played via the stereo's USB mode?
Thanks in advance!
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There is a mod that allows your phone to emulate a usb storage device that would allow you to play music stored on the phone through the stereo you installed, however there would be no controlling any of the sounds, etc via the phone. All the controlling has to come from the stereo itself. Volume, tone, selection, etc. You also need to check the format that the stereo "expects" to see in order for it to be able to function.... Such as Folder size, (files within the folder - how many) How deep the folders are allowed to be set as like in subfolders, etc. What the storage media format is able to be accessed, etc. It gets a little technical and the results are a bit disappointing in the end...
The best I can recommend is a display screen unit that supports using the phone in the USB input. I just installed a Pioneer AVH-X4600BT that works with my (GS4 rooted 4.2.2 Stock ) in my Wife's Subaru Outback. We can plug the phone's USB cable into the stereo (via a Mirrorlink add-on) and run the PHONE using the touch screen of the stereo. You'd be able to run Pandora, answer/make calls, answer/create e-mail and Texting, listen to the music on the phone, watch video that is stored on the phone or DVD's, and most important, NAVIGATION on a 7 inch screen!. All of that though, is dependent on the phone you have. As of yet, the Mirrorlink supports the iPhone, GS3, GS5, and with a hacked app in the phone, it also supports GS4. There is a free app on the market that is called Drivelink which interfaces your phone and the stereo.
You might want to research other stereo devices that have the Mirrorlink application support. I believe Sony has some, but I didn't go past the Pioneer unit. Bottom line, BE SURE TO DO THOROUGH INVESTIGATION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND THE CONNECTABILITY OF YOUR DEVICES. I know you just bought the unit recently so you just might be having to live with your setup for a while. That's o.k. though, next time you purchase something like that, you will be armed to the gills with knowledge and get something you'll really enjoy.
On my test bench after testing, and was ready to be installed....
Good Luck, and Aloha!
4umexdeeay said:
O-for-two...<grumble-grumble> :crying:
Upgraded my factory cassette car stereo to a new one with usb port (no bluetooth), thinking I could both stream the phone's audio and charge the battery via usb.
Well, the battery's levels actually decrease when plugged in, and more to the point, the phone isn't recognized in usb mode in the stereo and quickly goes to radio mode and the phone displays the following message (please see attached screenshot)...
...my phone is stock, not rooted. Stereo is not bluetooth-enabled, and I would prefer to stream via usb than the aux port.
-> Can anyone advise any tweaks or apps that would enable the phone's streaming audio to be played via the stereo's USB mode?
Thanks in advance!
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It's doing that because your phone uses MTP as the Media Transfer Protocol. Basically, it kind of mounts like an MP3 player or camera and the new DIN you installed doesn't know what to do with it. The real trick is to get your phone into UMS, USB Mass Storage mode. There's a UMS app in the play store, BUT you have to be rooted to use it. It basically mounts your phone like a regular old thumb drive. Do that and your new DIN will see it no problem. Only thing is, like a USB drive you'll have to navigate into your folders to play your music. This was what I threw in my car and it's been awesome!
http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Blue...=UTF8&qid=1397676105&sr=1-1&keywords=victsing
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4umexdeeay said:
This is all really helpful info, thanks
Yeah, not sure why I thought I could stream via usb either, must've been mixing up the functions of that and the aux cable.
-> So I'm familiar with a bluetooth dongle that connects via usb (...think that would work properly in a car stereo too?) - but you're recommending a dongle that connects internally? Know where I'd find that for sale?
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I bet I know why you thought you could play audio through USB. It's because Apple products can do it. One of the things that drives me nuts is that most cars with USB ports have audio playback support for Apple devices because of Apple's dock interface that let's the docking component control and navigate the audio. Unfortunately (and it drives me crazy) Google hasn't created a similar interface for Android so there are no Android Docks. Android devices like the S4 in your car rely on on AUX to send audio. It really sucks and Google has committed to addressing it this year in the car but I don't know if they're fixing the underlying problem of a uniform audio interface in android; meaning one where you plug in a dock and it recognizes your phone and how to access your music and playlists. Again, Take a look at this if you need a quick fix. I know you were hoping your new stereo would do it, but you could easily hide this:
http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Blue...=UTF8&qid=1397676105&sr=1-1&keywords=victsing
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1st, my assumption is you're rooted...?
If no=Boohoo... Root or buy stereo with Bluetooth.
If yes= install this app... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.samsungusbmassstorageenabler
Open it, grant it root privileges, click the "mass usb" (I think its called), and profit!
*Music must be on external card.
<-- my thank you is over there
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I don't understand, am I missing the post where u said u did this and it didn't work?
This is what u need to do... period. If this app won't work with your rom, find an app or place in the settings to enable "mass storage". The above linked app works for me and many others.