Just wondering, someone on the TMO forums told me that always toss in a couple months extra on any timeline giving for a release of a rom by devs. Still kind of new to the whole thing on the SGSII, but from your experience has cyanogenmod been pretty good at meeting there announced goals? Of course I am talking about CM9, but I am just wondering so I don't get my hopes up. I know they said 2 months which would make the release some time this month, but how are they with meeting announced goals?
Not sure where you got your info but official CM never provides ETAs. Its ready when its ready. I know this doesn't help you but that their policy.
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the first thing you should learn is
you NEVER ASK for ETA to any DEV, specially CM Devs, unless you want them to stop Dev on your device
I caught that really fast my day on the forum, this post was not meant to ask for a ETA but more so ask how well is there turn around time on past etas that they have giving? I know they work really hard for all of us to make these rom and I have so much gratitude for that. Not just referring to CM9 but have they giving a ETA in the past like this? If so, how good are they are meeting those ETAs in the past? Personally I would rather wait a little longer if it means a quality rom.
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Not sure where you got your info but official CM never provides ETAs. Its ready when its ready. I know this doesn't help you but that their policy.
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Thats why I am curious. On there site they announced it would be 2 months from November, but my thoughts were that was for our rom for our device. Didn't realize at the time that they support more than one device. Who knows, no worries.
let just say any time you hear, or even they mention in their own website are never correct
that's their best guess, but in the end every one got their real life to deal with before they deal with the ROM development
the longest hiatus was when CM himself was just hired by Samsung, and there was almost 4 month without any activity when he was moving from one side of the country to the other to start working for Samsung
Yeah, I remember when he got hired it was all over the web. Well, good to hear thanks for the feedback guys. Not trying to nag or anything.
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I hate to admit it, but everyone has moved on to the HD2. They have pretty much everything working on the HD2 but there is no developers working on the Rhodium and we have no sound yet.
I really thank all the devs and everyone else involved into making Android run on our Rhodiums, but we gotta face the truth someday. It was fun and I cook WinMo ROMs for the Rhodium, but we gotta realize its dated. The only reason I still have my Rhodium is because it has a keyboard. I'm waiting for a humming bird core HTC phone with QWERTY to make the upgrade. I know some people are gonna flame. Its OK I understand you want to hold on to that Rhodium you have. We ALL do.
PS: Its sad seeing craiglisters selling Android for the HD2. I wish I could kill them all. They don't deserve any money since they did not do any of the work involved nor did they contribute ONE thing. This is why I hate scenes like the smartphone scene... People take credit for what isn't theirs.
yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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LOL
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Keep doing what you do Reefer, I am patiently waiting for the next update!
I'm getting sick of threads on this, I'm sure devs do not appreciate them either..
Why you gotta be so negative? They are doing their best they can so why don't you lock yourself in the closet and come out of there once android has been fully ported to our device
Knappad
I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Keep up the good work. Ignore the leeches. All they do is take. They dont realize that their purpose should be to test and return feedback on the testing. Instead they seem to think that this forum is like you said, full of customer service reps. Its pathetic.
Anyhow, there are tons of people who appreciate all of the developers work and look forward to more updates.
Yea Reefer, let em have it. I wish I could help more to unlock the potential of this phone. It really is a pretty slick device that just wasn't given enough polish or muscle. I researched the purchase of it for months beforehand and don't want to just give it up now.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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+1 This is essentially a hobby for these guys....
p.s. gimme-gimme
No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
OP, there is work being done on the sound issue, however it is slow going. I try following the development, but it's WAY over my head.
Reefer for president !!!
agreed its completely dead i envy all the hd2 ppl running android
You are absolutely correct very dead. You should just get HD2s and give me your TP2s.
or pre-order ur 4g Epic.. thats what i did..
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No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
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Wrong. they make a rom and put it on here for everyone. and lets say 50 people download it. and 25 of them have a problem with it. you realy thing that a dev has time to try and fix 25 peoples problems while at the same time make updates to the roms cause your demanding them? thats not how it works. if you install a rom and something goes wrong then you ask the 24 other people if any of them have had the same problem or found a fix. your a tester. if your getting the devs work for free. the least thing you could do is test it and let everyone know how it works.
Dated but not dead.
You may think its dead but for people who still own the TP2, like myself, would like to see this till the end. I still have another year with this phone before I can upgrade and I cant fork out 500+ dollars to buy a new one like the HD2 or Incredible. I'm sure there are others out there in the same situation. So just because you were able to move on with an upgrade doesn't mean its dead.
sound will be working in a matter of time acl is making head way on it over at ppcgeeks.
I'm not asking for a date just wondering how it is coming along and how close are we to nightly's. I'm starting to Jones, its been almost 3 months since I flashed anything........
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I'm not asking for a date just wondering how it is coming along and how close are we to nightly's. I'm starting to Jones, its been almost 3 months since I flashed anything........
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Same here, but you are going to get flammed for asking this. lol.
It has gotta be close though. Other phones have nightlies already.
This is how far its gone > http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=supersonic
Is it coming soon ?
*noob confused with all that code
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The first rule of CM is NOT TO ASK! It will come when it comes.
Besides the camera and wifi wont work until HTC releases the drivers for them or someone writes new drivers for them. Both of which wont be any time soon.
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Is it coming soon ?
*noob confused with all that code
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Undetermined; just shows all the changes made to the rom. It'll be released when its done...just have to check it periodically. You'll know when, because it'll be all over xda.
Not asking for a release date just info about the Rom, and more than anything whether or not there will be an open beta. The camera and WiFi are non issue with me and hell we had broken WiMax and hw004 camera issues for almost 8 months with 7, but there were still nightlies.
Wth am I looking at on that post lol. I was dur when I saw all that. Is that a change log of the future lol.
cowboy up
Ics is cm9 for evo 4g pretty much if you think about it.
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CM9 will come when it comes. There are plenty of 4.0.1/4.0.3 builds in the dev area to hold you over and many of these development are working from/with/are part of the CM9 code. If you were in Fight Club would you talk about Fight Club? DON'T ASK, DON'T WONDER...if anything it makes devs irritated that people are violating the imposed rules.
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I think we all want to know when CM9 will come out... but if you do at least a little searching you will know that they are not updating with progress. CM devs don't really like to be bugged about progress. Like someone else said, first rule is not to ask lol.
Yeah, but the rule is "Don't ask for an ETA.". OP said very clearly in his post that he's not looking for a date. I believe he was hoping to read about some of the progress, at least thats how I read it. Also comparing Cyanogenmod with Fight Club is not really a fair comparison as Cyanogenmod doesn't hide and ask that no one tell anyone about the CM builds. Besides all that, this post was answered with a link to the progress page in the third post.
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Yeah, but the rule is "Don't ask for an ETA.". OP said very clearly in his post that he's not looking for a date. I believe he was hoping to read about some of the progress, at least thats how I read it. Also comparing Cyanogenmod with Fight Club is not really a fair comparison as Cyanogenmod doesn't hide and ask that no one tell anyone about the CM builds. Besides all that, this post was answered with a link to the progress page in the third post.
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All I get there is "Yahoo API is down, please try about five minutes later."
I'm also curious about the current state of CM9 for the EVO, mostly so that I can know if it's worth the effort to attempt to build myself or not. I'm surprised I haven't seen any CM9 kangs floating around.
People need to chill the **** out on the "don't ask for ETAs" thing. People get curious, relax. Zero news makes it seem like a project or a device is abandoned. A weekly or monthly "still working on it" update is totally acceptable, but when the last we heard about anything was months and months ago, we get antsy. I know nobody owes me anything. But if you want me to give a ****, don't be a big crybaby when we wonder what you're doing. It only means that we like what you do, don't bite the hand that (kind of) feeds you.
This message is not directed at anyone in particular; mostly the zealot followers who like to regurgitate "the rules."
Evo = July 2012 now stfu ans stop asking learn to search or make some friends on the inside
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I have been eagerly waiting for paranoid droid to come to this device
I was wondering if there is any talk, or plans to develop such a rom? Id love to try and compile myself, but lets be honest here... I can barely figure out my day to day responsibilities as an "adult"
So, I come to XDA in search of another tool which will side track me from every day life and accepting the fact that Im a looser that has phone ROMS be his most excimenent experienced in years.
thank you for your attention to this matter
@starskyrob is working on one last I heard. Ask him
Definitely would like to see this. A friend of mine just got the gs2, and he wants the rom after seeing it on my phone.
Not sure if this is a touchy subject but, does anybody know what happened to baked rom? It seems as if they just fell off the face of the earth....
Again, sorry if i shouldnt go in to this, i just cant find any info on them, and their wesite/ G+ hasnt been touched in months. To bad, was a great rom....
I don't think there is anything touchy about it. TravP just took a break. I remember the gap between Baked 8 and 9 was forever, and by that time a new Android (4.2?) was released. Then someone leaked BB9 to the forums when they shouldn't have and he decided to just scrap it. I still have a test build running on my Nexus S I think lol. I swear I saw someone post a screenshot of Trav running BB11 (might have even been trav himself on twitter) not too long ago, so maybe he will jump back in to things eventually. Baked is still the favorite ROM I've had the chance to run!
Thanks for the info, didnt know about that. That sucks it had to end that way, but i understand why he did it. It was also my fav rom. I would still run it if i could. I hope he does jump back into it. It would make me a pretty happy camper
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Thanks for the info, didnt know about that. That sucks it had to end that way, but i understand why he did it. It was also my fav rom. I would still run it if i could. I hope he does jump back into it. It would make me a pretty happy camper
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Trust me you wouldn't be the only one! On the GNex we had one of the longest threads in the forum going. Then our device maintainer got banned for something stupid and they locked the thread. (Mind you, this is probably 10 months after the last official release lol)So most of us just left XDA. My S4 isn't even rooted because I can't run AOKP or an AOKP variant. Damn I miss those days!
Ya, alot has changed in the past year or two, but it will get better
Completely OT but I figure why make a new thread. Couple questions for you. 1. Which N7 do you have? 2. Do you know of any ROMs for Deb that have a mutiwindow feature?
Since the paranoid android team sources their code from aosp, which got the lollipop push on the 3rd of November, when can we expect a final 4.x and work on lollipop to begin?
Furthermore, when's the earliest we can expect a beta push? (Note 2 user here)
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
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Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
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Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
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Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
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You asked for an EtA, and I told you to never "expect" it. We don't even support your device... So how can we give anyone an EtA when we have no idea how long developing something will take?
I really wish people understood the process here and the fact that asking for etas is frowned upon and discouraged
#stayparanoid
i swear some people are raised by f$cking wolves.....
no manners and expect everything for free.
So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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Well, considering all work on 4.4.4 has been dropped, you can expect to NOT get a 4.4.4 build again
#stayparanoid
Any idea on the timeframe of the first 5.0 based release? I've got the 5.0 release on my N7, but it's so slow. I'm excited to give it a try on my OPO.
We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
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No. We cannot provide any approximations at all. This shouldn't even be questionable.
A. We don't have time we can set aside for development. We fit stuff in when we can in between real life functions and responsibilities.
B. Everyone has a part of the development process. We all have to coordinate these efforts in order to produce something.
C. This is not our job. We try to do this for fun. A hobby. Would it be appropriate to ask when you will have something for me to play with from your hobby? Take RC cars for example. Let's say you like to build RC cars and some cool new gear was just released. Should I come to you and ask you, nay, tell you that you need to give me a date that I will be able to play with your new toy?
So, no, we cannot tell you a date or an approximate date for anything. It lands when it lands.
#stayparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S. Nexus 4 owner here.
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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ArchieTor, can I get an ETA on when you will respond to franciscofranco? I need to know this ASAP.
Thx
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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The past month on the G+ Community in a nutshell.
@NBruderman we are expecting 5.0 for S4 i9500 very soon. Have you made any progress so far, can't wait! You make the most stable builds till date.
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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The reason there's no ETAs given on things like this is because it's all superficial. For all you know, they found some drawbacks and you'll find a slightly disgruntled community that was expecting it then and didn't get it. It's best to just wait it off.
pa colors
Wil pa colors be able to use in 5.0?
I want to recolor my status bar (clock, battery etc.) but cannot in 4.4.4 version, would be so happy if we get back this option in lollipop???
Wow, as I sometimes read my posts, I'm gettin' even more motivated to prevent myself from getting in any contact with alcohol for a lifetime (Disclaimer: Never had it so far.)
Last time I had Internet access (I wasn't having it Dec 2—15), I wanted to write that I'm sorry, and I of course appreciate your work, and that I understand it's not your job, just hobby (I know there are people who think that all of the open-source software is created by companies employing programists for a cash and having profit from it in not-well-precised sources, and I ain't one of them), I wanted to highlight it with "Thank you for what you do for us", so you wouldn't think I expect an ETA in a way like a money-paying consumer would.
I was thinking about your response once again and now I understand you that you don't want to give an ETA, as it might become somehow disinformation, and some people involved would take it as inappropriate, as you can't just say for the whole team of volunteers how much work you're going to do during a certain period of time. When I tried to compare to compare the situation with my case (I'm creating simple Python programs (still just learning (the best way of learning to code is actually trying to create something new with just the very basic knowledge)) with just ~160 clones every month), in which if somebody asked me for an ETA, I might give one, but it would be inaccurate, and usually also be disinformation, and if I'd work with other people also considering it as a hobby, I wouldn't be sure whether to try to even very inaccurately estimate the time until next release or some fix.
So there, I know I'm being annoying, I'm sorry for that and I'm gonna try to stop it.
Cheers,
Michael
P.S.: Maybe you can't actually give a date, but can you provide a link to, for example, a stream of commit descriptions best to follow if I'd want to try to estimate when it'll be ready?
Follow +paranoid android on g+. Watch https://gerrit.paranoidandroid.co
#stayparanoid
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
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One or two years. OK?