[Q] Paranoid Android 5.0? - Paranoid Android Q&A

Since the paranoid android team sources their code from aosp, which got the lollipop push on the 3rd of November, when can we expect a final 4.x and work on lollipop to begin?
Furthermore, when's the earliest we can expect a beta push? (Note 2 user here)

Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid

Pirateghost said:
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
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Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:

BigBallsac said:
Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
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You asked for an EtA, and I told you to never "expect" it. We don't even support your device... So how can we give anyone an EtA when we have no idea how long developing something will take?
I really wish people understood the process here and the fact that asking for etas is frowned upon and discouraged
#stayparanoid

i swear some people are raised by f$cking wolves.....
no manners and expect everything for free.

So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?

mattgoldey said:
So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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Well, considering all work on 4.4.4 has been dropped, you can expect to NOT get a 4.4.4 build again
#stayparanoid

Any idea on the timeframe of the first 5.0 based release? I've got the 5.0 release on my N7, but it's so slow. I'm excited to give it a try on my OPO.

We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid

Pirateghost said:
We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.

ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
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No. We cannot provide any approximations at all. This shouldn't even be questionable.
A. We don't have time we can set aside for development. We fit stuff in when we can in between real life functions and responsibilities.
B. Everyone has a part of the development process. We all have to coordinate these efforts in order to produce something.
C. This is not our job. We try to do this for fun. A hobby. Would it be appropriate to ask when you will have something for me to play with from your hobby? Take RC cars for example. Let's say you like to build RC cars and some cool new gear was just released. Should I come to you and ask you, nay, tell you that you need to give me a date that I will be able to play with your new toy?
So, no, we cannot tell you a date or an approximate date for anything. It lands when it lands.
#stayparanoid

ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S. Nexus 4 owner here.
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid

ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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ArchieTor, can I get an ETA on when you will respond to franciscofranco? I need to know this ASAP.
Thx
Sent from my A0001 using XDA Free mobile app

franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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The past month on the G+ Community in a nutshell.

@NBruderman we are expecting 5.0 for S4 i9500 very soon. Have you made any progress so far, can't wait! You make the most stable builds till date.

ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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The reason there's no ETAs given on things like this is because it's all superficial. For all you know, they found some drawbacks and you'll find a slightly disgruntled community that was expecting it then and didn't get it. It's best to just wait it off.

pa colors
Wil pa colors be able to use in 5.0?
I want to recolor my status bar (clock, battery etc.) but cannot in 4.4.4 version, would be so happy if we get back this option in lollipop???

Wow, as I sometimes read my posts, I'm gettin' even more motivated to prevent myself from getting in any contact with alcohol for a lifetime (Disclaimer: Never had it so far.)
Last time I had Internet access (I wasn't having it Dec 2—15), I wanted to write that I'm sorry, and I of course appreciate your work, and that I understand it's not your job, just hobby (I know there are people who think that all of the open-source software is created by companies employing programists for a cash and having profit from it in not-well-precised sources, and I ain't one of them), I wanted to highlight it with "Thank you for what you do for us", so you wouldn't think I expect an ETA in a way like a money-paying consumer would.
I was thinking about your response once again and now I understand you that you don't want to give an ETA, as it might become somehow disinformation, and some people involved would take it as inappropriate, as you can't just say for the whole team of volunteers how much work you're going to do during a certain period of time. When I tried to compare to compare the situation with my case (I'm creating simple Python programs (still just learning (the best way of learning to code is actually trying to create something new with just the very basic knowledge)) with just ~160 clones every month), in which if somebody asked me for an ETA, I might give one, but it would be inaccurate, and usually also be disinformation, and if I'd work with other people also considering it as a hobby, I wouldn't be sure whether to try to even very inaccurately estimate the time until next release or some fix.
So there, I know I'm being annoying, I'm sorry for that and I'm gonna try to stop it.
Cheers,
Michael
P.S.: Maybe you can't actually give a date, but can you provide a link to, for example, a stream of commit descriptions best to follow if I'd want to try to estimate when it'll be ready?

Follow +paranoid android on g+. Watch https://gerrit.paranoidandroid.co
#stayparanoid

But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
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One or two years. OK?

Related

will Android ever be complete?

Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
rpowell said:
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
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I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel, I think most of the support we had will move towards getting Android on better, newer, and more capable devices like the HD2. In addition, most of the remaining problems with getting Android completely working are the ones that were very difficult to begin with. Things like initializing hardware correctly, and figuring out how to get the various parts of the device to talk to each other. I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
it seemed at first that android for the touch pro would never work but now the only thing that doesnt work is the camera. maybe the touch pro 2 will get to that level some day. who knows.
So from what I gathered, the Tilt 2 won't be having any further development to work with Android? I also still have my Fuze. Is that development continuing? If so, maybe I will keep my Fuze instead of selling it and use it to test with Android?
By the way, what is the real name for the Tilt 2? Is it Rhodium or ?
Thanks guys, this place really ROXS!
I await your replies!
ITAdmin
I'm not sure what you mean by complete. New builds are released all the time, etc. If you mean all hardware functioning, here is the list from Reefer's thread:
NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:
BT
Sound (in call mic and earpiece work, no ringtones or music)
Camera
Opengles: using software rendering for the time being.
Battery Meter
For sound, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121743
One guy has made an NDISwrapper for Android...amazing.
For HW3D, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125379
Battery Meter is working very well. It's not accurate (seems like it's 10-15% off) but it shows low, which means you can get charged up in time with no problems. I also recall phhusson saying this WILL be 100% some day, it's just very tedious and time consuming, and everyone is more concerned with making things run better and on more hardware.
In other words, development is still very much active and some very smart people are working on these problems. I believe Mr. Steve Ballmer said it best here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4
If you're patient, more of the pieces will come together soon enough and Android for our device will be more complete (relatively speaking). For the record, I'm very content with the state of things. All development from here is just icing on the cake
Mods, if I'm not supposed to link to outside forums, just delete them and/or let me know. That's just where the more technical info is.
i thought sound was fixed already today there was a new build for rhodium?.
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
bas85 said:
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
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This is incorrect. Please leave the release posts to those doing the releasing.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel... ...I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
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This is also incorrect. TP2 development is moving along faster now than it has been in a while. Not everyone wants a HD2 just beacuse it can boot android. Sure it has a fancy screen but no hardware keyboard, so i'm not even considering it as an option for a new device. Also, for future reference there are quite a few more than just one person working on this...
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
Hamsteriel said:
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
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ok, point taken. When will Android ever be fully functional on the Tilt 2 phone?
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
Hamsteriel said:
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
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My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
rpowell said:
My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
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Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/2c5dtps
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Code:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ppcgeeks+wiki+Rhodium+Android+Port
anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
The Jack of Clubs said:
anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
Anomoly said:
Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/2c5dtps
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Code:
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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you didn't have a clue mmh ? what where you thinking ? that those people are well paid for doing it, and because of that your in position to come here and whine ?
and it's nothing about wearing hearts on sleeves, since it's only repeating the obvious like breaking in open doors.
however, I have some question :
Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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there's a bounty started for this, but i haven't been following it, i don't know how up to date it is. i'd link to it, but i'm not allowed to post links yet...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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I bought my HD2 as soon as it came out but I still want android on the tp2. I know its frustrating waiting for what seems forever. If you really cant wait go get a better more capable phone. The hd2 is great multipurpose device.
<3 my wing/tp2/hd2
Anomoly said:
You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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like what? it has to work on atts network.

[Q] Cyanogenmod Response

Just wondering, someone on the TMO forums told me that always toss in a couple months extra on any timeline giving for a release of a rom by devs. Still kind of new to the whole thing on the SGSII, but from your experience has cyanogenmod been pretty good at meeting there announced goals? Of course I am talking about CM9, but I am just wondering so I don't get my hopes up. I know they said 2 months which would make the release some time this month, but how are they with meeting announced goals?
Not sure where you got your info but official CM never provides ETAs. Its ready when its ready. I know this doesn't help you but that their policy.
correct
the first thing you should learn is
you NEVER ASK for ETA to any DEV, specially CM Devs, unless you want them to stop Dev on your device
I caught that really fast my day on the forum, this post was not meant to ask for a ETA but more so ask how well is there turn around time on past etas that they have giving? I know they work really hard for all of us to make these rom and I have so much gratitude for that. Not just referring to CM9 but have they giving a ETA in the past like this? If so, how good are they are meeting those ETAs in the past? Personally I would rather wait a little longer if it means a quality rom.
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Not sure where you got your info but official CM never provides ETAs. Its ready when its ready. I know this doesn't help you but that their policy.
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Thats why I am curious. On there site they announced it would be 2 months from November, but my thoughts were that was for our rom for our device. Didn't realize at the time that they support more than one device. Who knows, no worries.
let just say any time you hear, or even they mention in their own website are never correct
that's their best guess, but in the end every one got their real life to deal with before they deal with the ROM development
the longest hiatus was when CM himself was just hired by Samsung, and there was almost 4 month without any activity when he was moving from one side of the country to the other to start working for Samsung
Yeah, I remember when he got hired it was all over the web. Well, good to hear thanks for the feedback guys. Not trying to nag or anything.

FirefoxOS for Redmi 1S

As we have proper sources for our device, i want to request the devs to build FirefoxOS for our device!
Learn how to code and you can build it yourself!
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Learn how to code and you can build it yourself!
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I know how to code but My PC is a little underpowered, it will consume a lot of time in compiling the rom and also i m busy.
There are a lot of devs for our device, i guess they can compile FirefoxOS for our device!
It will b awesome if u help me spread the word about FirefoxOS for our device [emoji2]
coolharsh91 said:
As we have proper sources for our device, i want to request the devs to build FirefoxOS for our device!
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I've used Firefox OS on my Nexus 4 and believe me, you'll not use it more than a day
It looks good but you miss all the apps that you are used too. You feel handicapped with that. So there is no point in putting so much efforts in it until they release a full fledged version of it.
nitin.chobhe said:
I've used Firefox OS on my Nexus 4 and believe me, you'll not use it more than a day
It looks good but you miss all the apps that you are used too. You feel handicapped with that. So there is no point in putting so much efforts in it until they release a full fledged version of it.
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I also used it on a Nexus 5, and yeah, it doesnt feel like home but it is good!
Also, if we get multirom support, it would be awesome....enabling us to Install as many OS' on the device as we want!
Ask a dev if u know any!?
No us devs are not going to do it. This takes time and effort which isn't free. IF you can pay the equivalent of a device cost, perhaps I could consider, but if you think only your request is sufficient, you are incorrect.
bmn65 said:
No us devs are not going to do it. This takes time and effort which isn't free. IF you can pay the equivalent of a device cost, perhaps I could consider, but if you think only your request is sufficient, you are incorrect.
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Don't refer yourself as a Dev, cuz u r not one. You are just a junior member.
If u can't help, please don't post useless replies.

why are we waiting...

Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
I got my 5x last Tuesday and forgot how little I like "pure" android. I think the usual progression is flash aosp then flash cyanogenmod once the nightlies start to stabilize. I know I'm in the minority but the nexus phones usually have too much Google on them for my taste. I like the hardware, but the software is another story.
At any rate, I'm also waiting for the binaries and device tree so that I can start building my own.
m4r0v3r said:
Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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sn0warmy said:
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
drsn0w said:
If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
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Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
m4r0v3r said:
oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
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timjp692 said:
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
m4r0v3r said:
what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
sn0warmy said:
I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
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Apology accepted.
bblzd said:
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
m4r0v3r said:
For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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I'm waiting too- it's not like google is still working on the binary drivers and just building the production rom with hacked up device trees until they get the real ones. I could be mis-remembering, but in the past, I thought the factory roms and binary drivers were available the day the devices were released.
I can certainly understand being patient with devs who are working on roms (for free/beer/donations), but google is done with the rom and has already released it to production. The factory image for the 6p was delayed as well. It's not a secret- they are going to push it to every one who bought a phone. My conspiracy theory is that google is trying to bury aosp, and merging android and chrome will be another stab into the heart of both privacy and freedom.
and its outtt
m4r0v3r said:
and its outtt
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Waiting for some real nexus thing then

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][CM12.1][5.1.1][ALPHA][KIWI][2/1/2016 security]

Preface:Lots of great developers have been bringing Cyanogenmod to the Honor 5X, but no one has posted any experimental builds for people to flash. Since I have been able to build CM with the sources other developers have kindly created, I would like to share builds for others to try out on their devices without having to setup an Android build environment.
I would like to clarify a few things:
These builds are UNOFFICIAL and may not be daily driver material.
I just build these ROMs from sources OTHER developers create. See credits below for developer list.
I cannot provide ETAs for the next build, new features, or anything else.
I have only tested these builds on KIW-24, so other variants might not support this ROM.
You are solely responsible for flashing this ROM along with any damage that might result from said flash. See the disclamer.
See post 1 for install instructions and downloads
See post 2 for screenshots and changelogs
Disclaimer: Voided warranties, bricked devices, rogue alarms at 2AM etc. are all your own problem. Neither any developer nor XDA is responsible for any unpleasantness that may result from using this ROM.
Credits:
@deadman96385
@CosmoDroid
@crpalmer
 @InkSlinger420
@EarlyMon
@wimbet
@Chainfire
Cyanogenmod
Google
And anyone else I might have missed. Let me know if I should add someone else to the credits.
To flash this ROM you need to:
Unlock bootloader and install TWRP
Boot into TWRP, perform wipe, and then flash ROM .zip and optional gapps *NOTE* non kiw-24 users see this post for information on flashing.
Reboot, and enjoy CM on the Honor 5X
Unofficial ROM Downloads:
3-10-16 - REMOVED by OP
Optional Gapps Downloads:
http://opengapps.org/ (ARM64, 5.1.1, Full)
Changelog:
3-10-16 - Initial build. (Tested) working features; wifi, BT, (some) data/LTE, normal phone features.
Known bugs:
No rear camera
No fingerprint sensor
No extra kernel features like Tap To Wake
Some cellular/data features may not work. I can't test this so check posts below to see if someone else can confirm.
Screenshots attached.
Del
Zakaria.R said:
Why is it kiw-24 specific ? I read on the other thread that it worked just fine on another variant
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I can only test on kiw-24. Another user has reported being able to flash ROM on kiw-22. If you or someone else can confirm that this will work on other variants, I'll update the OP.
Nothing was posted cause there is still things that need to be fixed...lol.. Bugs in builds suck..
Awesome! 40 days after US release. ( i know its been around these forums for a little while) but having a flash-able file is a big bonus. Any general working or not working info ?
InkSlinger420 said:
Nothing was posted cause there is still things that need to be fixed...lol.. Bugs in builds suck..
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I didn't mean to imply that other devs where in anyway at fault for no posted builds. I understand the desire to focus on fixing bugs rather than maintaining builds, but there a lot of people, myself included, that don't mind running buggy builds if we can get a taste of CM.
By the way, do you want me to add you to the credits?
eruji said:
Awesome! 40 days after US release. ( i know its been around these forums for a little while) but having a flash-able file is a big bonus. Any general working or not working info ?
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See post #3/reply #2
Bandit Development said:
I can only test on kiw-24. Another user has reported being able to flash ROM on kiw-22. If you or someone else can confirm that this will work on other variants, I'll update the OP.
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Thanks for replying fast man, actually I don't own the device yet, I was following the development here and thanks to you guys I might consider getting it, you made a big difference hope you keep on with this, your work is much appreciated :victory:
Bandit Development said:
I didn't mean to imply that other devs where in anyway at fault for no posted builds. I understand the desire to focus on fixing bugs rather than maintaining builds, but there a lot of people, myself included, that don't mind running buggy builds if we can get a taste of CM.
By the way, do you want me to add you to the credits?
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My deal is this... I also have builds of BrokenOs (my rom) for this device but i havent posted any for public use, for one reason...Respect... @crpalmer is doing 95% of the legwork for this device over there at CM and Im sure once hes ready and comfortable with where it is, he will announce builds somewhere for it....I think its both premature, and kinda crappy, to make public someones work before even they think its ready for public use.... My 2 cents... Oh, and i dont care about credit for anything..Im just a rom dev, i get enough for that....
InkSlinger420 said:
My deal is this... I also have builds of BrokenOs (my rom) for this device but i havent posted any for public use, for one reason...Respect... @crpalmer is doing 95% of the legwork for this device over there at CM and Im sure once hes ready and comfortable with where it is, he will announce builds somewhere for it....I think its both premature, and kinda crappy, to make public someones work before even they think its ready for public use.... My 2 cents... Oh, and i dont care about credit for anything..Im just a rom dev, i get enough for that....
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Thanks for your input. I certainly do respect @crpalmer along with all the other devs who have worked on this device, and I in no way want to detract from the fame/glory/respect they are due for all their hard work.
@crpalmer or any other dev, if you want me to remove this thread or change it in any way, please let me know. I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I was only trying to help others get a early taste of CM so they didn't have to build it themselves.
Appreciate the credit but I just fetch coffee and hound Huawei when necessary for devs doing actual work.
No harm removing me from the credits.
Thnx to all the devs trying real hard to get these awesome roms on our device.... Really appreciated
Sent from my KIW-L21 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for your input. I certainly do respect @crpalmer along with all the other devs who have worked on this device, and I in no way want to detract from the fame/glory/respect they are due for all their hard work.
@crpalmer or any other dev, if you want me to remove this thread or change it in any way, please let me know. I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I was only trying to help others get a early taste of CM so they didn't have to build it themselves.
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Thank you @Bandit Development for the build. While I understand where @InkSlinger420 is coming from I much prefer the state of where @crpalmer has brough CM to over stock. I've been running this for about 4 hours. GPS works great, data and phone work great. Most importantly switching between apps doesn't draaaaaaaag.
Hopefully those responsible for the hard work on this rom will realize this wasn't an attempt to grab the spotlight, but rather a way to placate the masses. Also, needed or not, there is valuable information even in the few early posts because not everyone uses their phones the same way, so one person may never run into a bug that another person sees frequently.
Fingers crossed, but perhaps this thread will also limit the number of posts in the [Dev] thread asking when etc.......... I know I filled it with build questions which probably didn't belong there either. However, I'm trying to learn a little about rom development and one of the first steps to that is to be able to build the rom so you can test your tweaks, or at least see how someone else's changes affect the phone.
Bandit Development said:
I didn't mean to imply that other devs where in anyway at fault for no posted builds. I understand the desire to focus on fixing bugs rather than maintaining builds, but there a lot of people, myself included, that don't mind running buggy builds if we can get a taste of CM.
By the way, do you want me to add you to the credits?
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It would take me approximately 30 seconds to add automatic nightly builds to my autobuild server (I already generate some builds every night).
Consider that and the fact that I haven't done so as an indication of whether or not I thought builds should be posted right now...
crpalmer said:
It would take me approximately 30 seconds to add automatic nightly builds to my autobuild server (I already generate some builds every night).
Consider that and the fact that I haven't done so as an indication of whether or not I thought builds should be posted right now...
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Wow, didn't realize you have a server dedicated to building. Because of this, I did not know that you wanted to wait to post builds. Would you like me to ask an admin to remove this thread? I sincerely don't want to mess with your work, plans, or anything else.
Bandit Development said:
Wow, didn't realize you have a server dedicated to building. Because of this, I did not know that you wanted to wait to post builds. Would you like me to ask an admin to remove this thread? I sincerely don't want to mess with your work, plans, or anything else.
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You don't need to remove the thread, I am just pointing out that I don't think that the build is at a level of quality that represents well the work of CyanogenMod.
crpalmer said:
You don't need to remove the thread, I am just pointing out that I don't think that the build is at a level of quality that represents well the work of CyanogenMod.
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Well, I'm happy to let you take over cooking builds if you'd like. I certainly don't claim to be able to make quality builds.
I would really appreciate any tips/info you'd like to share that would improve my builds. I've been trying to learn how to fix bugs and contribute to the ROM development, but the task seems to be a rather undocumented and slow-going.

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