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big mistake updating to 2.2

ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\

That sounds quite odd.
Are you using an unmodified SBF, or are you using a release where the author/publisher has made a lot of changes? When having problems, it may be best to stick to one release and try to narrow down your problems, instead of trying many different releases and introducing new variables into the mix.
Are you overclocking your phone - perhaps it's causing the rise in temperature? Or are you running a lot of widgets? There may be some widgets that use the system too aggressively, causing too much strain/heat.

Hi! Did you do "wipe" before and after flashing?

That is very odd. I am on Froyo and performance has been phenomenal ever since the flash.
I agree with naenee, check the ROM you're flashing...

i flashed the UK 3.4.2-117 and right now using Pay's 2.1 rom. I remember that I did wipe data/cache before flashing and after flashing. IDK, im just not having problem's with this particular rom..it seems like it happens on all the other ones im trying. I get random freezes and especially when I toggle on wifi. I recently installed setVEL and will see if battery improves, this means i don't need milestone right? I'm also using setCPU.
I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?

Seeing as it uses the same kernel, you should be able to do so...
bkuu said:
I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?
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I have been using the orange 2.2 for several days and no specific problem is noted.

well I reinstalled pays rom first and everything is working good. No more hang ups or freezes but I still can't get the battery to last as long.My phone is mostly idled, running on 2G, just one widget, and everything in settings turned down to the least minimal settings..im talking about battery saver, screen brightness all the way down..everything off! 6 hours in and im already on 70%. I can live with that but I'm using setVsel and I know it could do better. Anyone know another way I can make my battery last longer?

I'm running Pays latest rom based on the UK 3.4.2 and it runs great. I'm also using setvsel (as every defy user should) and optimized all my vsels ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected]) using stability test. I haven't had a 'normal' day of use yet, but with heavy use (installing apps, web browsing, flashing rom) I've gotten at least a full day (~15 hrs) out of a charge.
I recommend minimizing your vsels using setvsel, then judging your battery life. Check out the setvsel thread for more help.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.

Dewman4life said:
And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.
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Even if that's the case (and I dispute it, I use my phone a fair amount in the ~3 days the battery averages), it still doesn't explain why the OP's phone is dropping 30% in 6 hours while idling.

When I updated to froyo, my battery life went from about 15 hours of use to 21 hours between charges. So I'm thinking the op has an app doing the draining.
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Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.

Wife's phone is on official froyo, has been amazing since updated (a few weeks ago) but since yesterday some weird reason it's been super glitchy and freezing up. Not sure why...haven't changed anything to it and she's only downloaded an app or two (such as pandora) in the last couple days...I was playing around with it trying to figure out what was up...can't figure it out. I went into titanium backup to freeze some apps thinking maybe some blur crap was freezing it up but TB froze up so I can't even get in there. Also, same as OP, the battery has been heating up really quick lately, especially when on wifi.
Not sure what's up here...but I'm hoping nothing serious! Will keep you all updated on this...we'll see if there is a trend going on here.

bkuu said:
ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\
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check your cpu usage... if it's constantly arround 99%, you may experience the "usb-plug/unplug"-bug.
try enabling usb debug and restart your phone.

hah2110 said:
Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.
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I would rather say it is a characteristic of people using android, to have widely different usage patterns, causing differences in how long a charge lasts for each.

Hi there. Have you tried to recalibrate the battery? There is an app on the marke called Battery Calibrator. From what I understand if you play with roms the battery can give you problems so it need to be calibrated again. I hope this can help.

For those interested... I'm having a problem, I don't know yet if it's a bug or a hardware defect.
My phones wastes A LOT of battery while it should be suspended.
I've tracked the problem to, apparently, Motorola's SIM driver. From what I've discovered so far, the SIM isn't accepting the suspend state and therefore the "suspend" process uses too much CPU time... all of this when the phone is, supposedly, saving battery.
As I can't get a motorola engineer involved, I can't say for sure if this is the true cause... but it's the closer I've got to a diagnostic, so far.
Your problem might or not be related to this, but if you're interested about what I've found or what my kernel log looks like so you can compare with your own problem... this is the thread at motorola's owner forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47721

Time to give credit to Samsung.

I have to say I have tried EVERY ROM on the SGH-T989 and can say none are as stable and have the battery life to match the stock ROM.
I tried Darkside today. It is a clean ROM. Close to stock. I had two complete lockups on the phone that required battery removal in about a 6 hour period. I am not overclocking at all. The ROM has an underclock by default.
I just think it's time to give Samsung and the programmers there a thumbs up for doing such a great job on this phone.
It would be nice if they could release more of the header and source so the developers here could have a better chance of getting a stable ROM built...but until that happens I will just stay with a rooted and stock ROM.
Peace.

I've had no lockups or any problems in the 150 hour uptime I had with Juggernaut 5.0 with 009m faux's kernel.
Battery life is much better as well. Dropping down to 80% after 1 hour of display time.

Cool story bro

chlehqls said:
I've had no lockups or any problems in the 150 hour uptime I had with Juggernaut 5.0 with 009m faux's kernel.
Battery life is much better as well. Dropping down to 80% after 1 hour of display time.
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I was on the stock ROM for 6 hours yesterday. Surfing, playing games, wifi enabled. Used a bit over 30% from a full charge.
I jumped right into custom ROM's when I got this phone. After going back to stock is when I realized how much the custom ROM's actually degrade the phone.
I have ran Jugg's 4.x with Faux kernel and Bullet kernels. Bullet was faster by a good bit. Battery sucker from hell though.
Do these phones really need the overclocks and tweaks? After going back to stock my opinion is no.
Peace.

You probably didnt follow the directions when installing any of the roms you tried.
If companies like samsung were as awesome as you say they are, would XDA exist at all in the 1st place?
Enjoy your bloatware.
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ninrocket2 said:
I was on the stock ROM for 6 hours yesterday. Surfing, playing games, wifi enabled. Used a bit over 30% from a full charge.
I jumped right into custom ROM's when I got this phone. After going back to stock is when I realized how much the custom ROM's actually degrade the phone.
I have ran Jugg's 4.x with Faux kernel and Bullet kernels. Bullet was faster by a good bit. Battery sucker from hell though.
Do these phones really need the overclocks and tweaks? After going back to stock my opinion is no.
Peace.
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Battery proof? Heres mine with Darkside:
http://db.tt/Dndk1SLW
http://db.tt/qxYSJxJv
http://db.tt/AydX5Jxx
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Me being the analytical type....and to just keep this topic fact filled and useful will create a test bed to compare the 'popular' roms versus stock.
I will create a post in the next week to share the results.
Peace.

ninrocket2 said:
Me being the analytical type....and to just keep this topic fact filled and useful will create a test bed to compare the 'popular' roms versus stock.
I will create a post in the next week to share the results.
Peace.
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Theres already a thread for that:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524569
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jordanishere said:
You probably didnt follow the directions when installing any of the roms you tried.
If companies like samsung were as awesome as you say they are, would XDA exist at all in the 1st place?
Enjoy your bloatware.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
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Keep it civil and to the point. Don't attack my character by implying that I don't know how to follow directions and flash a ROM. I have been a member on XDA since the first year....much longer than you.
I don't have a problem with bloatware. I use a stock ROOTED ROM and remove the bloatware. Very easy to test and then delete bloatware using Titanium Backup.
XDA got it's start back when the CPU and chipsets on phones were very slow. Over time the new phones have become handheld computers. The processing speed is much faster.
In the beginning the OS's were in the infantile stages as well. They have all improved dramatically.
I remember when a flash on something like the HTC Tytan made a huge difference. You were getting the GPS and FM Radio Unlocked. The bloatware was removed in the ROM(Windows based...no ROOT access). It made a huge difference in the performance of the phone and unlocked a lot of features.
This isn't the case with the new phones. There really is nothing being added to the ROM's that can't be added via the market or removed using Titanium Backup.
What I have seen with every ROM is intermittent lockups that require battery removal and excessive battery consumption probably from the aggressive timings that aren't necessary.
Peace.

ninrocket2 said:
Keep it civil and to the point. Don't attack my character by implying that I don't know how to follow directions and flash a ROM. I have been a member on XDA since the first year....much longer than you.
I don't have a problem with bloatware. I use a stock ROOTED ROM and remove the bloatware. Very easy to test and then delete bloatware using Titanium Backup.
XDA got it's start back when the CPU and chipsets on phones were very slow. Over time the new phones have become handheld computers. The processing speed is much faster.
In the beginning the OS's were in the infantile stages as well. They have all improved dramatically.
I remember when a flash on something like the HTC Tytan made a huge difference. You were getting the GPS and FM Radio Unlocked. The bloatware was removed in the ROM(Windows based...no ROOT access). It made a huge difference in the performance of the phone and unlocked a lot of features.
This isn't the case with the new phones. There really is nothing being added to the ROM's that can't be added via the market or removed using Titanium Backup.
What I have seen with every ROM is intermittent lockups that require battery removal and excessive battery consumption probably from the aggressive timings that aren't necessary.
Peace.
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I look forward to your battery testing!
Please include multiple kernels as you test various ROMs, especially faux and Synergy
And perhaps install Juice Defender as a best case.
Personally I haven't experienced any lockups with the two custom T989 ROMs I've tested, but have benefited from the improved battery life dramatically. I'd still love to see a more controlled experiment, however.

jordanishere said:
Theres already a thread for that:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524569
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Read it. It is basically a generic thread. No stats or true testing methods just some user comments.
I want to actually test the phone in real life conditions. Watch some vids, talk on the phone, skype/gtalk/YM video call...etc. Actually run consecutive tests across the best ROMS and stock and see how they match up.
Benchmarking is a bit ridiculous....in several aspects.
If a game runs 30 fps or greater...you won't see the difference.
If a game runs a stable 30 fps versus a ROM that peaks at 50 but valleys at 15....you will definitely see the difference.
If a ROM runs 50 fps versus 30 and both are stable...you won't see the difference. The question then is which one uses less battery. The obvious answer is the one running 30fps. Less frames means less redraws and less CPU and GPU.
I just want to once an for all be able to definitively say what each ROM is really doing to the phone with graphs.
Not hard to do. Just takes a real world test model and some time. I think I can test one ROM a day. I will test the most popular ROM's....Juggs, Beast, Darkside, Bombardier, Gingersnap, etc... I have tested them all. I know which ones are legit and which ones aren't.
Peace

ninrocket2 said:
Keep it civil and to the point. Don't attack my character by implying that I don't know how to follow directions and flash a ROM. I have been a member on XDA since the first year....much longer than you.
I don't have a problem with bloatware. I use a stock ROOTED ROM and remove the bloatware. Very easy to test and then delete bloatware using Titanium Backup.
XDA got it's start back when the CPU and chipsets on phones were very slow. Over time the new phones have become handheld computers. The processing speed is much faster.
In the beginning the OS's were in the infantile stages as well. They have all improved dramatically.
I remember when a flash on something like the HTC Tytan made a huge difference. You were getting the GPS and FM Radio Unlocked. The bloatware was removed in the ROM(Windows based...no ROOT access). It made a huge difference in the performance of the phone and unlocked a lot of features.
This isn't the case with the new phones. There really is nothing being added to the ROM's that can't be added via the market or removed using Titanium Backup.
What I have seen with every ROM is intermittent lockups that require battery removal and excessive battery consumption probably from the aggressive timings that aren't necessary.
Peace.
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Agree 100%
Nothing has performed better than stock 2.3.6, rooted and debloated.
Sent from my T989 hunting for Siri Connor

I run Juggernaut 5, ADW launcher, AOSP ICS themed, with Darkside's latest kernel (extracted it from Darkside ROM pakage), and I've had amazing battery life, OC'd to 1.83ghz with ondemand governor.
And IMO Touchwiz is ugly, samsung tries too hard to make all their stuff look like the iPhone. They do a crappy job of it and it ends up being a dissapointment.
I think any small degradation of battery life is worth the noticable boost in snappiness and cosmetics of the phone. I personally couldn't stand the stock phone, as soon as I could I flashed something different.

zander21510 said:
I run Juggernaut 5, ADW launcher, AOSP ICS themed, with Darkside's latest kernel (extracted it from Darkside ROM pakage), and I've had amazing battery life, OC'd to 1.83ghz with ondemand governor.
And IMO Touchwiz is ugly, samsung tries too hard to make all their stuff look like the iPhone. They do a crappy job of it and it ends up being a dissapointment.
I think any small degradation of battery life is worth the noticable boost in snappiness and cosmetics of the phone. I personally couldn't stand the stock phone, as soon as I could I flashed something different.
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Strictly aesthetics can be achieved through the use of different launchers/lockscreens. The point of ROMs/Kernels need to be more than aesthetics. Hence, "some" of the ROMs offered [strictly speaking] are a pretty big disappointment because they're nothing more than themed stuff baked in and offer no real functionality.
I'm REALLY interested in a controlled experiment of battery claims of different ROMs/kernels. Preferably all at stock speeds.

djxcee said:
Battery proof? Heres mine with Darkside:
http://db.tt/Dndk1SLW
http://db.tt/qxYSJxJv
http://db.tt/AydX5Jxx
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Sorry but there is absolutely NO proof in these pictures.
I can see that your phone was on battery for a bit over 1 day.
I can also see that 45% of your phones battery usage was the display...and that the display was on for a bit over 7 hours.
What I don't know is what was your screen brightness set at?
Does the display percentage represent JUST the LED power for the screen or does it also include the GPU/CPU driving the display?
Where are the numbers for the stock ROM?
Those numbers mean nothing when you don't have a standardized test bed and procedure.
Peace.

zander21510 said:
I run Juggernaut 5, ADW launcher, AOSP ICS themed, with Darkside's latest kernel (extracted it from Darkside ROM pakage), and I've had amazing battery life, OC'd to 1.83ghz with ondemand governor.
And IMO Touchwiz is ugly, samsung tries too hard to make all their stuff look like the iPhone. They do a crappy job of it and it ends up being a dissapointment.
I think any small degradation of battery life is worth the noticable boost in snappiness and cosmetics of the phone. I personally couldn't stand the stock phone, as soon as I could I flashed something different.
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You can use a home launcher on the stock debloated ROM and get the same results with more stability and better battery life.
I recommend you check DXHOME out to see a smooth launcher.
Peace.

ninrocket2 said:
Sorry but there is absolutely NO proof in these pictures.
I can see that your phone was on battery for a bit over 1 day.
I can also see that 45% of your phones battery usage was the display...and that the display was on for a bit over 7 hours.
What I don't know is what was your screen brightness set at?
Does the display percentage represent JUST the LED power for the screen or does it also include the GPU/CPU driving the display?
Where are the numbers for the stock ROM?
Those numbers mean nothing when you don't have a standardized test bed and procedure.
Peace.
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Actually, unless that test was completely skewed (e.g. screen on displaying black screen), 7 hours of screen on time + 20 odd hours of standby time with use of radios/connectivity is very very impressive.

2hvy4grvty said:
Strictly aesthetics can be achieved through the use of different launchers/lockscreens. The point of ROMs/Kernels need to be more than aesthetics. Hence, "some" of the ROMs offered [strictly speaking] are a pretty big disappointment because they're nothing more than themed stuff baked in and offer no real functionality.
I'm REALLY interested in a controlled experiment of battery claims of different ROMs/kernels. Preferably all at stock speeds.
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I agree with your first paragraph 100% and will get the experiment underway with Stock speeds.
Peace.

2hvy4grvty said:
Actually, unless that test was completely skewed (e.g. screen on displaying black screen), 7 hours of screen on time + 20 odd hours of standby time with use of radios/connectivity is very very impressive.
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When you can refer us to pictures of a base ROM with the same parameters and settings for comparison then I might say it is impressive. But with no base ROM data it is purely speculation.
Peace.

enjoy the drm laden ciq enabled features... That cannot be removed by titanium unless it can magically decompile recompile frameworks on the fly...
Enjoy the Memeroy leaked jobsmanager....
Anyways now thats oout of the way
How much time did you spend between stock firmwares and custom firmwares?
Did you fully wipe the device before flashing and after
Did you do dirty nanoid restores?
A little more info woud be helpfull
at the end of the day if you enjoy stock more great for you.... Use it n move on...
Still missing the point of this thread on a dev website unless you like being trolled.

[Listen Samsung] What's your problem with these new ROMs/updates and Battery backup?

Believe me I'm the last person who will complain about battery backup or create a topic about it, but yet I'm doing it! Seriously, Samsung helped us to be greedy, with awesome battery backup on 4.1.1 ROM, and now they took it away! It really doesn't matter whether you agree or not, 4.1.2 does drain battery much much faster than 4.1.1 ROM. I mean why? Why on earth you gave us that great backup at first and then took it back?
I really don't wanna go back to to a previous version, but I think I'll ultimately have to do that. Honestly I don't see any improvements in 4.1.2, other than that volume key photo taking option in 4.1.2, and of course that SDS fix.
Anyone from Samsung seeing this? What would you say? Why this sudden change of mind? Have any answers to that?
This is what I/we used to get in 4.1.1,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35526794&postcount=920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33679782&postcount=304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32749185&postcount=123
And what is 4.1.2 doing? Well look at the ****ing screenshots and compare. So some tick tack goodies and SDS fix costs almost 3 hours screen on time?
'Swyped' from my GT-N7100

jujuburi said:
Believe me I'm the last person who will complain about battery backup or create a topic about it, but yet I'm doing it! Seriously, Samsung helped us to be greedy, with awesome battery backup on 4.1.1 ROM, and now they took it away! It really doesn't matter whether you agree or not, 4.1.2 does drain battery much much faster than 4.1.1 ROM. I mean why? Why on earth you gave us that great backup at first and then took it back?
I really don't wanna go back to to a previous version, but I think I'll ultimately have to do that. Honestly I don't see any improvements in 4.1.2, other than that volume key photo taking option in 4.1.2, and of course that SDS fix.
Anyone from Samsung seeing this? What would you say? Why this sudden change of mind? Have any answers to that?
This is what I/we used to get in 4.1.1,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35526794&postcount=920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33679782&postcount=304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32749185&postcount=123
And what is 4.1.2 doing? Well look at the ****ing screenshots and compare. So some tick tack goodies and SDS fix costs almost 3 hours screen on time?
'Swyped' from my GT-N7100
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This has been a massive pain in the ass for a while now. .

9 hours deep sleep and only 1% drain.
Though the screen on time has decreased
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UtkarshGupta said:
9 hours deep sleep and only 1% drain.
Though the screen on time has decreased
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Would ask you what rom but I've got lte anyway so won't help much.

Wanam2.8 and perseus32.1
Kernel is available for lte and rom is not modified much so you can figure out.
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Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that

Why don't you want to go back to 4.1.1 if the update has hardly brought any improvement?
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Martux76 said:
Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that
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Not being funny but knowing that you're getting much less battery after the update does play on the mind and it is clearly a software issue which we shouldn't have to endure.
Unlike many on here, the one and only reason I got the note over the s3 was battery life. I would rather much save a couple hundred and have a more comfortable phone to hold in the s3 if I knew the battery life would get messed uo after a software update.
I also don't want to carry seperate batteries around and swap out. If I did, I would have stuck with HTC to be honest.
I just want the immense battery life of 4.1.1 back but without sacrificing new features like the browser text reflow.

Martux76 said:
Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that
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Well when I compare battery life I do it with my own results. It's completely invalid to compare one's backup with others as usage pattern is different most times.
So, on 4.1.1 I got 9 hours screen on time, half dozen times, on 4.1.2 it touched 8 hours once! This is just bad.
johma said:
Why don't you want to go back to 4.1.1 if the update has hardly brought any improvement?
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I'm sure you know there is a bug called eMMC!
fade2black101 said:
Not being funny but knowing that you're getting much less battery after the update does play on the mind and it is clearly a software issue which we shouldn't have to endure.
Unlike many on here, the one and only reason I got the note over the s3 was battery life. I would rather much save a couple hundred and have a more comfortable phone to hold in the s3 if I knew the battery life would get messed uo after a software update.
I also don't want to carry seperate batteries around and swap out. If I did, I would have stuck with HTC to be honest.
I just want the immense battery life of 4.1.1 back but without sacrificing new features like the browser text reflow.
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Totally and completely agree with you, and that was my point.
Either this is a game by Samsung, to level down us to S3 users, or they are simply unable or ignorant to maintain the continuity of a good thing.
The thing is, technically Note 2's battery backup was right, because on S2 we used to have 4 to 4½ hours screen on time, and that was a 1650 mAh battery, so it's almost doubled on Note 2, so it's basically normal to have 8 hours screen on, nothing ultra ordinary I'd say, but I can say what we are getting now is just BAD.
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I have to agree completely with OP. I have been only using the stock samsung roms & i too find the battery life to be worse on 4.1.2 XXDMB2 (by approx. 10-15 %) compared to 4.1.1 roms. Although, i like everything else about the latest 4.1.2 better .

Frustrated with 4.3, thinking of downgrading

So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?

Maybe battery life is not the best one, but you should let the phone settle some days.
The wakening problem is not 4.3 related. Indeed maybe its a usb port/pin problem.
kevinjqiu said:
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
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4.3
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Same here. Been downgrade to 4.2.2 after frustrate with 4.3 battery. Full charge at morning and low battery arround 5pm. 4.2.2 with 4.3 features also drain battery alot. Now I'm running on TeamEOS 4.2.2

Turn of mobile and network location in location settings and try it for a day
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Have you narrowed out that it's none of the apps causing issues?

kevinjqiu said:
So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
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As personal experience, much of what you describe did happened to me some time ago and it was cause for some apps that were not optimized for the newer Android API version.
That said, you could try boot into Safe Mode (keep pressed the "Turn Off" at the shutdown screen) and see if keep happening the issues you describe

Use Wakelock Detector app to identify what's draining your battery unusually..

Way ahead of you, I need my tethering.
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The waking of the phone is most likely caused by a USB malfunction. 4.3 isn't great because Verizon hasn't updated the Nexus radios so the signal is very bad. It goes from LTE to 3g to no signal and back. It does this so ,much that the battery takes a big hit. Find a ROM where you can turn on and off LTE, that should improve your battery.
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The battery drain is because of "always searching for nearby wifi" option
Just disable it ...
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ive been happy with 4.3 on my VZW Gnex except for constantly having data issues. i downloaded a couple 4.2 roms again to see if they help any. I'm guessing it's because VZW doesn't officially have 4.3 on the Gnex which is why we are seeing data problems. I don't know specifics, maybe binary problems, i dunno. All i do know is it's annoying. I can't even stream iheartradio or pandora at work without it constantly cutting out. then i'll lose data all together and have to reboot the phone to get it back.

kevinjqiu said:
So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
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I just had this exact problem and spent a day working on it. It actually has nothing to do with android 4.3; its actually the usb port on the phone, as stated a bit earlier in this thread. More specifically, the pin inside the port is likely shorting with the outer surface of the port, due to it bending slightly. This causes the phone to have funky voltages being detected at the port, and results in the phone behaving as you described (the waking up when the screen is off is actually it thinking its going into charging mode). There are two things to do to fix it. Firstly, take some compressed air and thoroughly clean the port out. Dust that accumulates in the port can cause problems like this, and blowing it out is a relatively simple task. If that doesn't work, the next thing to do is to bend the pin up a bit. Note that this requires you to be a bit gentle, but is not overly difficult. Turn the phone off and remove the battery first, then wedge a very small flat head screwdriver between the pin and the bottom of the port. Very gently apply a bit of pressure, just to bend it up a bit. This doesn't need to be by a lot, in fact when i did it, i could only barely even see a physical difference. Put the battery back in and power the phone back up, and see if it was enough. It fixed all my problems when I did it a week ago.

Don't know what seems to be the problem here
Lasts me 1.5 days with 4hrs On Screen Time Every Time
Don't blame 4.3 if it's an app messing with your battery life

Thanks everyone for chiming in. Here's an update. I uninstalled Go battery widget and now the battery lasts longer. Not as long as I had hoped but better. I installed wakelock detector (thanks for suggesting it) after I uninstalled Go battery widget so I don't have the evidence to prove that Go battery widget is the culprit but the phone seems to be running better now. I also haven't experienced any random wake ups.

Would the data issues more likely be a factor of radio, rather than ROM?

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Why do that when you can complain on a new thread on xda?! 4.3 sucks because crappy Go apps create wakelocks!
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I had the same issues with battery life when I upgraded to 4.3. However, I largely attribute that to T-Mobile's horrible reception in College Station, TX. I used PA, CM10, Purity, Avatar, and a few others but the battery life and performance was not respectable even though they claimed the contrary. This phone is reaching its the end of its product life and no matter how many "optimizations" go under the hood, the hardware is just not apt for ROMs designed for higher end phones.
In the end, I flashed a stock rooted ROM, no more "optimizations", "tweaks", or "improvements"...just a clean ROM. Granted, I in no way mean to offend any developer and their hard work but my experiences with their ROMs left a bitter feeling towards them.
Battery life improved significantly. What used to be 100% to 30% in 8-9 hours turned into 100%-50% in 14 hours. Do keep in mind I'm not a power user. My phone serves as a music player for my ~1 hr commute from and to school, occasional text messages, random redditing, and the random news article before class. In all, I average a little under 2 hours screen time before I deplete the battery to 5-10%.
It's also important to use the appropriate radio for your market.
TL;DR - Try stock and a different radio.

Kernel
I have always seen major differences between Kernels and attributed the majority of battery life to that. Some kernels just work better than others. For example, I know that TONS of people love Franco's kernel, but on my phone battery life is terrible on it. Personally, I like Golden and it seems to really improve battery life.

Same here. I've been having constant data issues with 4.3. So much so that I've just lock myself to 3G and so far, that's been good. 3G->4G or back doesn't work half the time and requires either toggling airplane mode on and off, or rebooting the phone outright.

Going to have to agree. I have VZW and all the 4.3 ROM's I've tried have been less than impressive. I obviously appreciate the dev's work but nothing i've tried is ready to be my DD

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
baune7 said:
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

im_high_tech said:
I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
baune7 said:
This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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