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Have you ever given Swype a whirl? I wasn't a fan of virtual keyboards either until I started using Swype. It came stock with my G2, would it come with the G2X too?
I have a G2 and love it, but I wish it didn't come with the keyboard, it adds a lot of bulk. If you could stand it, I'd say wait.
G2x is dual core, therefore slightly more future proof than the g2. If those are your only choices and you can deal without a hardware keyboard, go g2x. But you really need to play with both.
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Nospin said:
G2x is dual core, therefore slightly more future proof than the g2. If those are your only choices and you can deal without a hardware keyboard, go g2x. But you really need to play with both.
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Dual core gives a bit of a performance boost. But the G2X is an LG phone, and therefore probably isn't going to see a lot of developer support. At least not anywhere on the order of HTC devices. Developer support and up-to-date ROMs is better future proofing then just a slightly faster CPU, IMO. LG phones are also pretty consistently underwhelming. Their phones are just not that good. If not for the dual network support of the G2X, I'd say G2 all the way.
i do know that g2x does come with swype preinstalled.
could i try out a g2, and if i dont like it, go to a g2x? and vice versa?
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Dual core gives a bit of a performance boost. But the G2X is an LG phone, and therefore probably isn't going to see a lot of developer support. At least not anywhere on the order of HTC devices. Developer support and up-to-date ROMs is better future proofing then just a slightly faster CPU, IMO. LG phones are also pretty consistently underwhelming. Their phones are just not that good. If not for the dual network support of the G2X, I'd say G2 all the way.
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LG was underwhelming because they were mainly in the budget game before. Also, their software skills are at the script kiddie level. Unless you REALLY need a keyboard then I would say G2X or Optimus 3D. That extra screen real estate makes more of a difference than you would think.
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meh, i dont care about screen real estate either. besides, lgs skin is going to be taken off, g2x is mostly stock, besides the obvious bloatware planted by tmobile.
if you have plans to root or any of that good stuff I say go for the LG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59oQcIgF94&feature=player_embedded
actually based off this video the G2x will NOT run stock android, as you can see at 1:40 it has samsungs touch UI on it... but earlier in the video you will also notice that the notification bars are changing.... for example look at :24 and then 1:03.... i honestly have no idea what it all means
G2X looks hella ugly. My vote goes to the G2.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59oQcIgF94&feature=player_embedded
actually based off this video the G2x will NOT run stock android, as you can see at 1:40 it has samsungs touch UI on it... but earlier in the video you will also notice that the notification bars are changing.... for example look at :24 and then 1:03.... i honestly have no idea what it all means
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i dunno about that, but according to this video it is running stock. which the G series is known for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBSu_1jUkg&feature=channel_video_title
Anyways i'd definitly go with the g2x or one of the upcomming 3d phones vs getting a G2 right now which i currently have. i also came from a G1 and im tellin ya, the keyboards not that important anymore. sometimes i feel slower flipping it and actually typing it then just a few taps or swipes, i dont have much to say while texting. and i dont email much from it. with 4" screen im sure the screens accuracy would do justice. The hardware should more than make up for most of what dev's usually work on. I already feel that way about the g2. In the G1 it's exciting because it can get so much improvement, you feel like your actually turning a piece of **** into a chocolate bar (just a metaphor i love the G1), while the G2 you already feel like your just turning your chocolate bar into a different brand, or your adding nuts. So why not just buy the richest chocolate it has the potential to taste the best. Just my 2 cents, you might think totally different or use your phone different.
I like my G2 but If I were buying now I'd probably get the G2X.
The G2 keyboard isn't that great (compared to the G1 keyboard anyways), thanks to that and the awesomeness of Swype I rarely use the physical keyboard.
Dual Core will give the G2X more life, it will still perform well 2 years from now on whatever version of Android is out then, the G2 may be getting pretty winded by this point.
It's true that right now LG phones haven't seen the developer support that HTC phones have, but I expect the newer, higher end Android phones will attract some attention and HTC's increasingly more restrictive security measures will curb developer interest there. Of course this is 90% speculation at this point.
Personally I am going to wait for htc to drop htc G3 or another android phone with a physical keyboard. I do not need any faster phone. Nor I play games. I just text a lot and browse webs.
I don't think saving few sec browsing apps and loading games worth 300 -400dollars so I am keeping the g2.
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Personally I am going to wait for htc to drop htc G3 or another android phone with a physical keyboard. I do not need any faster phone. Nor I play games. I just text a lot and browse webs.
I don't think saving few sec browsing apps and loading games worth 300 -400dollars so I am keeping the g2.
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There was roughly 2 years between the release of the G1 and the G2, if following the same schedule that doesn't see the "G3" before fall 2012, if the AT&T merger does complete (which I think is likely because we have the best government money can buy) it's extremely unlikely that there will be new TMO phones coming out after that.
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if you have plans to root or any of that good stuff I say go for the LG
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And why is that?
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There was roughly 2 years between the release of the G1 and the G2, if following the same schedule that doesn't see the "G3" before fall 2012, if the AT&T merger does complete (which I think is likely because we have the best government money can buy) it's extremely unlikely that there will be new TMO phones coming out after that.
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That makes no sense...why would they not have a follow up to a well liked phone? Not only do they have more customer but also the ability to offer more devices than any other carrier? Seems like good business to me
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That makes no sense...why would they not have a follow up to a well liked phone? Not only do they have more customer but also the ability to offer more devices than any other carrier? Seems like good business to me
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T-Mobile likely won't exist anymore (assuming the merger goes through) and AT&T will be working hard to bring every TMO customer into the AT&T fold. They will have very little motivation to sell a successor to a uniquely T-Mobile phone.
While I do expect AT&T to have a better selection of Android phones than they have historically that isn't a tremendously difficult bar to exceed.
Right now there are 12 Android phones (not counting tablets, color variations or unreleased devices like the G2x or Sidekick) for T-Mobile and 6 available for AT&T, no way they will have 18 or anywhere close to that post merger, I'd expect a selection that's better than AT&Ts but not as good as TMO (maybe 10 or so at any given time).
The only hope that we as consumers have is that now that AT&T has lost iPhone exclusivity that AT&T will dramatically change it's stance towards Android and embrace it instead of offering a crappy selection of gimped phones (the Atrix gives me some hope, for all that it too is gimped)
Even if AT&T does offer a phone called the "G3" it will more than likely be a mediocre phone with a crappy keyboard (think backflip).
Maybe if we are lucky TMO will have already invested enough into the G3 before the merge completes that AT&T decides to release it, after they block application installation of course.
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T-Mobile likely won't exist anymore (assuming the merger goes through) and AT&T will be working hard to bring every TMO customer into the AT&T fold. They will have very little motivation to sell a successor to a uniquely T-Mobile phone.
While I do expect AT&T to have a better selection of Android phones than they have historically that isn't a tremendously difficult bar to exceed.
Right now there are 12 Android phones (not counting tablets, color variations or unreleased devices like the G2x or Sidekick) for T-Mobile and 6 available for AT&T, no way they will have 18 or anywhere close to that post merger, I'd expect a selection that's better than AT&Ts but not as good as TMO (maybe 10 or so at any given time).
The only hope that we as consumers have is that now that AT&T has lost iPhone exclusivity that AT&T will dramatically change it's stance towards Android and embrace it instead of offering a crappy selection of gimped phones (the Atrix gives me some hope, for all that it too is gimped)
Even if AT&T does offer a phone called the "G3" it will more than likely be a mediocre phone with a crappy keyboard (think backflip).
Maybe if we are lucky TMO will have already invested enough into the G3 before the merge completes that AT&T decides to release it, after they block application installation of course.
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I disagree on this outlook, I dont think AT&T would do that, it's just a really bad business move, why would you buy a business out if you are just trying to kill it, especially with verizon and sprint around. That is already the motive as a competitor. You buy the company because it has something valuable to you. The G series and mytouch is one of Tmobiles biggest branded phones and recieve lots of customers, im sure they would keep it that way. they'd probably just change the name of the phone.
and AT&T is not going to give up apple's iphone by choice. That would be a ridiculous move.
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I disagree on this outlook, I dont think AT&T would do that, it's just a really bad business move, why would you buy a business out if you are just trying to kill it, especially with verizon and sprint around. That is already the motive as a competitor. You buy the company because it has something valuable to you. The G series and mytouch is one of Tmobiles biggest branded phones and recieve lots of customers, im sure they would keep it that way. they'd probably just change the name of the phone.
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AT&T has already said that the main reason they are buying TMO is so they can use the wireless spectrum TMO currently uses for 3G and "4G" for their LTE buildout. Sure the customers are nice and AT&T will indeed make some efforts to keep those customers (churn is expensive) but I'm sure that unifying the brand will be a higher priority.
The G series isn't really notable apart from the G1 being the first Android phone to market. As for the MyTouch "brand", that one has always been a head scratcher is to it's reason to exist. I'll be nothing short of amazed it it continues post merger. I would not be surprised to see existing MyTouch devices receive token rebranding immediately following the merger close to kill off the MyTouch brand quickly.
and AT&T is not going to give up apple's iphone by choice. That would be a ridiculous move.
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Never said they would dump the iPhone, what I meant was that hopefully they will feel less compelled to intentionally cripple their android offerings as they have done in the past.
So idk how many of you are like me and follow popular android blogs like Droid-life or Android Central, but lately there has been a crazy amount of discussion about all these new super phones that are coming out in the next few months. And also if you are like me, then your contract is going to be up around the holiday season or a little after because that is 20 months after our phone was released.
I am just trying to get a little discussion going about what you think your next phone will be, you can answer my poll and/or just talk about what you are looking for in your next phone. Going for a 4.3in screen? Is 4.5in too big? Must be LTE? Needs HD (720p+) screen? Sticking with HTC? Liking the idea of Google/Moto merger? Ice Cream Sandwich or nothing? Will the next Nexus phone come to Verizon? These are just some of the questions that I am curious about and I'm sure that others are too. Happy discussion!
I love htc phones, dont ask me why. I also love sense, so sonething dual core, 4g capable, sense 3.0 or whatever is newest. Rootable. Has to be verizon, right now i wouldnt change.
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I came from the Eris (got my Inc on eBay), so my contract is actually up next week. I'm probably going to get the Vigor if it has everything that is rumored and actually comes out close to that date. I don't want wait til next year.
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Already jumped that boat and I'm happy.
DROID 3 lol
/droid3
The mythical DInc 3 that's rooted already. It's got 16 cores with 4 GB memory, battery never needs changing cause it's powered by love.
EDIT: Seriously, I don't know. Verizon doesn't get great reception where I'm moving, so USCC is gonna be my next carrier. I heard they're coming with 8 phones and possible LTE by fall sometime, so I'm in a holding pattern, but the Inc rocks, no hurry.
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The mythical DInc 3 that's rooted already. It's got 16 cores with 4 GB memory, battery never needs changing cause it's powered by love.
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Sign me up for a box of these lol! I am usually an HTC man myself, but I think my next phone is going to be moto (unless the Nexus ACTUALLY comes to Verizon). I know I'll probably get some **** for this, but I actually like the new Blur. My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional. But time will tell.
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Sign me up for a box of these lol! I am usually an HTC man myself, but I think my next phone is going to be moto (unless the Nexus ACTUALLY comes to Verizon). I know I'll probably get some **** for this, but I actually like the new Blur. My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional. But time will tell.
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Hey, whatever works for you man, nothing wrong with that! I like HTC, but depends on what USCC will get. Verizon likes to pass on phones, and USCC gets the best reception where I'm moving... Time will tell!
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My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional.
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You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.
Probably Nexus Prime.
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You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.
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Yeah don't get me wrong, I have been an avid launcher pro user for almost a year. But I would love to be able to just use to stock launcher and just about any one would be usable for me besides sense. And yes being able to unlock it is extremely important to me too, so new HTC phones are looking good for that reason. I am hoping that the Droid HD will follow in the footsteps of the OG.
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Probably Nexus Prime.
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We can only hope so, if that comes to Verizon it will be a glorious day.
Whatever has an AMOLED screen. Its looking like it'll be a Nokia ClearBlack running WP7 or some sort of Samsung Nexus kinda thing. I will certainly miss HTC though when I go!
I know the SLCD's aren't THAT different, but everyone is nitpicky about something and the ever so slight difference just happens to be something that gets to me horribly. I have been intrigued by WP7 for a long time anyways, and I'm sure it will be even more polished by the time I'm ready to peace out the Dinc.
Sense is awesome, and most (non-dev everyday) people I know who have a post-Nexus One HTC phone are in love with it, while there seems to be a large amount of "how come mine doesn't have that" coming from (non-dev everyday) people with other Android devices. I figure the positive feedback I see with WP7 and Nokias recent hardware will give me a solid alternative in 10 months when its time to upgrade.
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You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.
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You can't install any launcher on a Sense ROM. And ADW can kiss my ass for 6 or 7 bucks to do a fraction of what Sense does. I'd suggest hunting down one of the patches that allows you to remap those dock buttons. Something like Myn's Rosie or use a rom that remaps them. I thought pretty much all custom Sense ROMs allowed remapping of 2, if not all the buttons.
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Hey, whatever works for you man, nothing wrong with that! I like HTC, but depends on what USCC will get. Verizon likes to pass on phones, and USCC gets the best reception where I'm moving... Time will tell!
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US Cellular? I'm not sure how much of what they say I'd believe. For those who don't know, they're a CDMA carrier which has strongholds in Chicago and many areas of West Virginia.
Not too terribly long ago before the introduction of EVDO Rev.A, USC operated a CDMA network that both Alltel and Verizon used under an interoperability agreement. The problem was US Cellular didn't use standard 1xRTT or EVDO and Alltel and Verizon devices couldn't authenticate on their network. They were possibly THE LAST adopter of EVDO Rev.0 and as of last year still hadn't fully deployed EVDO Rev.A across their network. It was only in the last year and half they got their network compliant with the standards Alltel and Verizon use across IL, and still their coverage is horrible.
In short, I'd be pretty skeptical about any claims they make about LTE until I actually saw proof.
Nokia - Windows Phone. That is assuming Big Red gets a high end one (latest net rumors say they are). Who knows.
If they don't and there is no talk of it coming... I may look into the Nexus Prime if it's on Verizon. Like somebody else said, It's got to be AMOLED.
If it isn't.... I'll be checking out Sprint.
Nothing worth changing for yet
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Another HTC phone I am extremely satisfied with my ability to tinker with this phone especially with the prls. I've got 3g in places I used to get 1x. And miui.us is tight
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I love HTC and Sense but I voted for the Samsung Galaxy SII.
However, in reality, I will probably go for the phone that has the best battery life be that a Samsung or an HTC phone - I'm not wild about Motorola phones.
I am so tired of the crappy battery life on my DInc.
I'm still not sure which phone I'm going to go for, I could upgrade at any moment but I think I'm going to wait. I originally had an OG droid and I loved the sturdyness of Moto's build quality, but I love the lightness and the look of sense on the Incredible.
One thing is for sure I need 4G, at least dual core, 1GB+ RAM, still haven't decided on screen size yet (at least 4"+).
I think I'm going to wait until ICS drops since I'm already in debt up to my earlobes :lol: Buying the Transformer didn't help that.
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You can't install any launcher on a Sense ROM. And ADW can kiss my ass for 6 or 7 bucks to do a fraction of what Sense does. I'd suggest hunting down one of the patches that allows you to remap those dock buttons. Something like Myn's Rosie or use a rom that remaps them. I thought pretty much all custom Sense ROMs allowed remapping of 2, if not all the buttons.
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So I am sure I am not the only person who has (or had) a Vibrant. I am sure the development that is being done on the SGS2 is quality, but there isn't much in the way of quantity (which doesn't always mean much). Am I justified at all in worrying about all this? Does everyone feel satisfied with the amount of development going on for what is still a relatively new phone?
I was considering the Galaxy Nexus, just for the faster updates and solidarity (as opposed to having a different CPU than other similar phones), however the SGS2 hardware is tempting.
I am trying to tell myself that with ICS I can hang onto my Vibrant a bit longer to wait for more options and such, but I want a new phone so bad, and right now the only obvious phone I can pick up easily is the GS2. I am just hesitant after the fiasco with the Vibrant. It's also been so long that it seems like I could wait it out just a tiny bit longer and get the next gen stuff.
(I know the argument about how you can always wait longer, but it has been months since the GS2 landed in the US and it will probably be a month before I am ready to buy a new phone with the holiday season upon us)
Unless you are willing to buy a Euro version of the Nexus outright, you'll be waiting atleast several months for it to be released by tmo. Not to mention if it comes spec'd the same as the vzw version, you won't have expandable memory. Cyanogen is actively devving for this phone and once we get ICS, I think it will be very competitive with the GN.
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What about the low resolution of the phone? Can that be addressed by a new ROM or ICS?
No it can't be changed. You can mess with the density to make it look HD but I don't notice anything "low" about our resolution as it is. I love this phone.
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It is by no means low resolution.
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rbenz said:
What about the low resolution of the phone? Can that be addressed by a new ROM or ICS?
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all the HD games tittle you see advertized are for our current resolution 480x800
480x800 has been considered HD for the longest time, for the past 3 years. it is a standard that all game developer codes for
if you read over the Galaxy Nexus forum the 720 resolution is causing havok on a lot of apps and games...
so go figure
on a side note, here some food for thoughts
DVD quality = 480x800
Blueray 1.0 quality = 720x1280
Blueray 2.0 quality = 1280x1080
degeneration said:
I was considering the Galaxy Nexus, just for the faster updates and solidarity (as opposed to having a different CPU than other similar phones), however the SGS2 hardware is tempting.
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read this while you are still considering it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
also there's an existing topic about SGN vs SGS2 T989 right here in the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372420
Galaxy nexus will be released in 3 days. I'm also tempted in using buyers remorse for the nexus. The sgs2 hardware is better IMHO. We'll be getting ics. Early 2012 we just gotta wait for a driver leak.
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well in Canada the GN is going to be released tomorrow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19918706
but i'm not crazy enough to go line up for the first day of launch
specially when i'm not even in the mood to get that bug ridden phone, perhaps when they add microSD and a Quad core SOC to it, i'll probably go for it
To me it came down to cost. I had been waiting to upgrade my vibrant to the nexus prime forever. But word is that the nexus prime will cost $299 with full discount which means not only will I have to pay more per month to switch to verizon (currently paying $50 a month for unlimited with no contract), I would also have to pay more out of pocket for the initial device purchase (Ended up getting my GS2 for $380 new in box still no contract from craigslist)
That finally pushed me to go ahead and get a GS2.
I am still very concerned about ICS support. I also felt like the vibrant got screwed on gingerbread (GPS, bluetooth, and camera still suck on GB roms) so I am extremely worried about how ICS will end up. But I am fairly confident that ICS will eventually be released for the device officially (it will be later than they claim)
Something people overlook is that the Galaxy S2 is THE best selling Android phone of all time. That means that it's going to be the de facto for Android development for some time to come. Developers will want to make apps that run well specifically on this phone. Remember, just because faster, more powerful phones are on the horizon doesn't mean that the GS2 will be obsolete any time soon.
I have no doubt that it will also be an overall better phone than the Nexus once it gets ICS. Yes the 720p display on the Nexus is nice, but unnecessary. It's a 4.65 inch screen, for Pete's sake. If you doubt the GS2 screen, just go to your local t-mobile shop and pick one up. Your doubts will be put to rest.
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Something people overlook is that the Galaxy S2 is THE best selling Android phone of all time. That means that it's going to be the de facto for Android development for some time to come. Developers will want to make apps that run well specifically on this phone. Remember, just because faster, more powerful phones are on the horizon doesn't mean that the GS2 will be obsolete any time soon.
I have no doubt that it will also be an overall better phone than the Nexus once it gets ICS. Yes the 720p display on the Nexus is nice, but unnecessary. It's a 4.65 inch screen, for Pete's sake. If you doubt the GS2 screen, just go to your local t-mobile shop and pick one up. Your doubts will be put to rest.
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I think you mean "THE Galaxy S2", on Tmobile we find ourselves with a significantly different phone yet again. At least this time there is only one on Tmobile. However with different processors on our phones it won't be as simple to translate development over (however being that its a Qualcomm it seems likely that it will be pretty simple all the same, but I have no idea).
My point was it doesn't matter what carrier you are on or what country you are in if I get a GSM GN (possibly excluding VZW).
I know that people here are going to probably defend the SGS2 because that's what they have, but no one has really answered my question and instead commented on my thoughts.
There doesn't seem to be a LOT of development (I have the assumption based on the opinions that what is there is high quality though).
Furthermore, I am not on contract, so I get no discounts on phones, making the GN only about 100 bucks more than the SGS2.
Pointing out the GN flaws is a good call, I haven't been keeping up with that and mostly watching this forum as, like I mentioned, the appeal that I can walk on down to the store and get one makes it a possible buy.
The SD card is something I would prefer, but I don't need. I was prepared to go down to 16gb but hoping for a 32gb.
The major appeal is how many people are still happy with their Nexus S. The Nexus phones just have a longer life span because they come out about once a year and Google supports them.
Some other phones get a similar treatment, but it seems to be a higher risk. Samsung has already mentioned they are working on the SGS3, meaning SGS3 updates will come even slower (I presume though that there is probably still AT LEAST most of a year before we start to see them). I just like the idea of carrying around a little Google baby.
And I am not saying anything bad about the SGS2, I am just skeptical after the whole Vibrant thing (or the SGS in general since as far as I heard GB isn't on most devices, and those that got it got it way late). The hardware looks amazing, and honestly I like the idea of the captive buttons vs only virtual buttons (I like my menu button tyvm). If CM9 is out and I haven't upgraded I will probably go for the SGS2 and put CM9 on it right away, but otherwise I will be worried about the software. Seems like it took a little hollering to get CM support (I could be misunderstanding that thread), so what happens with CM10+? I suppose there will be developers who will porting stuff over, probably.
So that's that. I figure most of this post is futile any way as it seems people get a little defensive about their choices and get upset when you make counter points. I suppose that is somewhat helpful though as it does still compare things, just one sided.
I will end up probably reading one thing online somewhere that will randomly cause me to make up my mind and then just be blissfully ignorant of what I am missing. So oh wells. Thanks for the input so far guys.
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I think you mean "THE Galaxy S2", on Tmobile we find ourselves with a significantly different phone yet again. At least this time there is only one on Tmobile. However with different processors on our phones it won't be as simple to translate development over (however being that its a Qualcomm it seems likely that it will be pretty simple all the same, but I have no idea).
My point was it doesn't matter what carrier you are on or what country you are in if I get a GSM GN (possibly excluding VZW).
I know that people here are going to probably defend the SGS2 because that's what they have, but no one has really answered my question and instead commented on my thoughts.
There doesn't seem to be a LOT of development (I have the assumption based on the opinions that what is there is high quality though).
Furthermore, I am not on contract, so I get no discounts on phones, making the GN only about 100 bucks more than the SGS2.
Pointing out the GN flaws is a good call, I haven't been keeping up with that and mostly watching this forum as, like I mentioned, the appeal that I can walk on down to the store and get one makes it a possible buy.
The SD card is something I would prefer, but I don't need. I was prepared to go down to 16gb but hoping for a 32gb.
The major appeal is how many people are still happy with their Nexus S. The Nexus phones just have a longer life span because they come out about once a year and Google supports them.
Some other phones get a similar treatment, but it seems to be a higher risk. Samsung has already mentioned they are working on the SGS3, meaning SGS3 updates will come even slower (I presume though that there is probably still AT LEAST most of a year before we start to see them). I just like the idea of carrying around a little Google baby.
And I am not saying anything bad about the SGS2, I am just skeptical after the whole Vibrant thing (or the SGS in general since as far as I heard GB isn't on most devices, and those that got it got it way late). The hardware looks amazing, and honestly I like the idea of the captive buttons vs only virtual buttons (I like my menu button tyvm). If CM9 is out and I haven't upgraded I will probably go for the SGS2 and put CM9 on it right away, but otherwise I will be worried about the software. Seems like it took a little hollering to get CM support (I could be misunderstanding that thread), so what happens with CM10+? I suppose there will be developers who will porting stuff over, probably.
So that's that. I figure most of this post is futile any way as it seems people get a little defensive about their choices and get upset when you make counter points. I suppose that is somewhat helpful though as it does still compare things, just one sided.
I will end up probably reading one thing online somewhere that will randomly cause me to make up my mind and then just be blissfully ignorant of what I am missing. So oh wells. Thanks for the input so far guys.
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I realize the hardware is different among the different carrier GS2's. What I was referring to is the overall specifications (dual core processor ~ 1.2-1.5 ghz, 1gig of ram, etc.) when I mentioned the developer support.
In regards to your concern about the screen, I can only tell you that I did a lot of shopping around, testing out different phones and the GS2 screen does not disappoint. IMO, it is overall better than the ones found in the Razr and Rezound, which both offer higher resolutions, so keep in mind that resolution isn't everything.
At this point just wait a couple days until the Nexus is out and give it a hands on. Until you have the device in your hand, you can't really tell how it's going to taste to you. I was infatuated with the Motorola Razr until I actually held one in my hand and hated just about everything about it. The super-thin profile felt terrible in my hands, the noticeable pixels on the screen were distracting, it got way too hot to hold up to my ear, other than the speakers and software (I actually like Moto-blur), it was a complete failure to me. So you never know until you try it.
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I realize the hardware is different among the different carrier GS2's. What I was referring to is the overall specifications (dual core processor ~ 1.2-1.5 ghz, 1gig of ram, etc.) when I mentioned the developer support.
In regards to your concern about the screen, I can only tell you that I did a lot of shopping around, testing out different phones and the GS2 screen does not disappoint. IMO, it is overall better than the ones found in the Razr and Rezound, which both offer higher resolutions, so keep in mind that resolution isn't everything.
At this point just wait a couple days until the Nexus is out and give it a hands on. Until you have the device in your hand, you can't really tell how it's going to taste to you. I was infatuated with the Motorola Razr until I actually held one in my hand and hated just about everything about it. The super-thin profile felt terrible in my hands, the noticeable pixels on the screen were distracting, it got way too hot to hold up to my ear, other than the speakers and software (I actually like Moto-blur), it was a complete failure to me. So you never know until you try it.
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Thanks, but someone else mentioned the screen, not me. I am not worried about the screen, it would have the same resolution as my current phone so I wouldn't know the difference.
Any way, you may have understood this but it was ambiguous: Yes I know the hardware specs are nice (I believe I stated that they were potentially better) but more people would have the exact same GN as opposed to people with the exact same SGS2. It might not matter though, I have no developing experience (I considered it, but I barely passed my Java course 6 years ago) so I might be wrong in thinking that it will be hard to work with stuff for the international one and put it on the tmobile version. I mean it might be simple if it's just drivers since qualcomm drivers would not be hard to find.
Furthermore, I am already being spoiled with ICS and just want it now.
The thing is, the reason I ask here instead of in the GN forum is that I really want to want the SGS2 (well, and people here have looked as the GN where as people there might have never looked at -specifically- the tmobile sgs2). I am actually likely to walk into a tmobile store and walk out with a phone over the winter break, and I don't think I would be able to help myself if there was a stable ICS rom by then.
BUT the fact that Nexuses last so long makes me wonder if I will be whimpering about how I could have got one and didn't, then again the next nexus will be starting to solidify by then.
Regarding the CM10 bit...
The good news is that once a Device is officially in a previous generation of CM, for example all devices on CM6 are automatically included in CM7 and when CM9 is out, all the CM7 devices will get CM9
so in a way, it's a better guaranteed than stock ICS from Google which only goes as far back as 1 year of support, even the Nexus ONE got removed from Google's support list, in the end the Dev had to make their own PORT / build of ICS for Nexus One, as the regular ICS is not hardware compatible according to Google.
so if our device gets supported officially in CM7 and CM9, it will automatically be included in CM10
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Regarding the CM10 bit...
The good news is that once a Device is officially in a previous generation of CM, for example all devices on CM6 are automatically included in CM7 and when CM9 is out, all the CM7 devices will get CM9
so in a way, it's a better guaranteed than stock ICS from Google which only goes as far back as 1 year of support, even the Nexus ONE got removed from Google's support list, in the end the Dev had to make their own PORT / build of ICS for Nexus One, as the regular ICS is not hardware compatible according to Google.
so if our device gets supported officially in CM7 and CM9, it will automatically be included in CM10
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Then how come my G1 is only unofficially supported in cm7? They can stop supporting something, they might not, but they can. And if they just stop using a device, they aren't going to be able to continue working on it. For instance I heard rumor that the Vibrant will no longer be officially supported, and it only got 7/7.1...
What they say is as long as they support it they will continue to do what they can, but they do drop support on phones as they have to over time.
additional info for rbenz
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
As device screen resolution goes up, achieving a 60fps UI is closely related to GPU speed and especially the GPU’s memory bus bandwidth. In fact, if you want to get an idea of the performance of a piece of hardware, always pay close attention to the memory bus bandwidth. There are plenty of times where the CPU (especially with those wonderful NEON instructions) can go a lot faster than the memory bus.
in that scenario i see more benefit to have 800x480 than the newer higher resolutions
i can understand your feeling completely
It would seem like everybody is either dodging or are too wrapped around the Euro-GS2 to answer your question...i myself have been wondering if there is going to be more custom roms, kernels & etc...i've heard that team whiskey & CM should be cooking roms real soon for the t-mobile galaxy s2. I do believe all this waiting is related to the qualcomm chip in the phone versus the exynos processor in all the other gs2 variants...I just hope this isn't gonna be like theyre doing just bc they don't wanna leave the t-mobile one out of development...but if you do test out the galaxy nexus and like it then go with it, one thing is true about those nexus phones, they are always the first to get those updates...it really comes down to what you want to do, wait a little bit for more roms or etc.
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Then how come my G1 is only unofficially supported in cm7? They can stop supporting something, they might not, but they can. And if they just stop using a device, they aren't going to be able to continue working on it. For instance I heard rumor that the Vibrant will no longer be officially supported, and it only got 7/7.1...
What they say is as long as they support it they will continue to do what they can, but they do drop support on phones as they have to over time.
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You have reservations strong enough that I would say dont get the SGSII, you wont be fully happy. Based on what you said, you should buy the unlocked galaxy nexus they are selling now ($800), or wait for the verizon version. You may regret not getting the SGSII, but I would hardly think that the Nexus would be significantly worse. If anything you would just regret paying more for a similar phone.
agree re: getting SGN instead of SGS2
specially when the OP did mention the lack of SD card is not a biggie
for me the lack of SD card was a major deal breaker, so the T989 was my only choice of good phone for AWS 1700+2100 networks
Came across this just now over at Engadget. I just felt my phone got really old real fast! The only thing that comforts me so far about it is that it's only released in Europe for now.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/
Benchmark here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/15/lg-tegra-3-phone-specification-leak-tegra3-quadcore/
*gasp*
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Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...
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Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...
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It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.
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It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.
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Thats one way of lookin at it... we have a limited edition!
Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?
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Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?
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I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.
LG has said they will update the LG Optimus LTE to ICS in Q2 2012. We'll be getting ICS either directly or by porting it from the Optimus LTE. It is more than possible to run the Optimus LTE ROM on our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/26/lg-announces-ics-upgrades-to-begin-in-q2-2012/
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I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.
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Wish I could say the same but I still have a good 22 months to go.
Easy does it now. I've got gripes just like everyone else, but our Nitro does NOT suck. Don't forget it's STILL one of the few 1280x720 HD screens out there and our dual-core 1.5GHz cpu is hardly a turd either.
This whole thing about how we could've waited just a little longer for the next big thing is ridiculous because not even 6 months ago the specs on our Nitro WAS the next big thing.
Crap, it has LG logo...
I'll pass.
It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.
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It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.
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LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.
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LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.
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I don't mean to bash the phone, it is what it is, and I'm the one who signed the contract, I'm just disappointed. It had potential but obviously, there's no denying it came up short. And two year contracts are the devil.
Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will
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Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will
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I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
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I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
Sent from my LG Nitro HD
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Hey, to me, you're as much a real dev as any other dev can be Despite your limitations, u gave us all hope with our phones hehe.
Def wont ne getting another LG but I can say I'm happy I opted for it when I did. Its the name of the game when you get a phone. New ones cone out that trump it in months. No bog deal really. I wish development teams could produce their own high quality devices to sell. Cyanogenmod making a phone would be sweet.
I dont think I ever said the phone sucked... it is LG that sucks. Their track record with phones is well established. I do love the screen, and LTE is faster than my home internet. It is a good phone, even better with Kernelpan1c rom's! I am just beginning to feel like this phone was nothing more than a stopgap to the Optimus 4x, and will soon be the neglicted middle child.
I also lay blame on AT&T who did NOTHING to promote this phone, nothing at all. Therefore sales will be down & 3rd party accessories will be minimal. The only saving grace may be Verizons version, at least they made commercials... although nothing like the Speilberg'esque Droid productions they put out regularly.
UPDATE - Just saw on AT&T the Nitro is now a $100 for new contracts. The Skyrocket is still $200!!! In 2 months it went from flagship to dead weight.
I bought the Nitro as an upgrade to my Samsung Infuse. I just wanted something different from Samsung. Yes Sammy screens are the best in my opinion and the Infuse is unbrickable. I've already bricked one Nitro. The HDMI output on the Nitro is so much better than my Infuse, thats a feature I use often. Developmet will come to this phone like it did to the Infuse and I'm thinking of getting my dev on for this phone if development slows down, but I'm new to that. The nitro seems to be LG's "middle child" like the samsung Infuse. Which is cool with me.
Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.
Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
well...
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.
xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
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dudejb said:
Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
dudejb said:
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later
santimaster2000 said:
...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
santimaster2000 said:
Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
Androide3 said:
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
yohan4ws said:
No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !
santimaster2000 said:
Exactly !
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+1
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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xtacb4 said:
+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB
Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.