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Who owns our phones?

I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html

iIl still be unlocking thou haha what are the chances of them finding out? Downloading movies and music is illegal and? ..people still do it xD crappy laws...
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What I guess they are getting at with the law is yes you own the hardware but do not own the software that runs on it. Only license it from the manufacturer and there for should not be allowed to change the software you don't own.
This law is also only effecting phones purchased after october and you can still unlock your phone you just need to have the carrier unlock it is all.
What is supposedly illegal is hacking the software to unlock it (like they can catch you) or getting a unlock code from a online provider other then your carrier / manufacturer.
I think it is dumb though. I bet Apple had a hand it in. Getting upset people were getting the carrier version of the iPhone and paying less and hacking to unlock it rather then paying a insane amount for the unlocked version.

bx10r said:
I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html
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Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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All of those affect other people. Murder/assault is committing an act of violence against somebody without cause (can't claim self defense). Excessive speeding has great potential to kill other people on the road when you either slam into them because they are going normal speed vs your double speed or you lose control of your vehicle and slam into another. "Hacking" into somebody else's computer is an violates their right to privacy. That computer is their property and they have a right to be safe and secure when it comes to their property and belongings.
I understand your point, but YOU own your phone (assuming you paid for it and its not leased). You flashing your phone for another carrier and installing a custom ROM and using free software does not violate anybody else's rights to anything.
By your reckoning, do you think the government should be able to enforce a law for example that forces men to sit down to urinate? Either you are your own person and own your property or you don't.

Let's say a person with bad intentions gets an unlocked phone... With numerous different sim cards running through it from different carriers... You mean to tell me no harm can be done with that? It doesn't have potential to obstruct police investigations, locate kidnapped people, etc?
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
Maybe it doesn't, but that's how I look at it. And everyone that has a phone already can unlock it if they want... Its just for new buyers which is why I don't see what the big deal is. How many people really unlock their phones? Less than 1% of cell phone users? Idk just think its a big fuss about a falling sky over nothing.
And BTW... I may not HAVE to sit/stand to urinate... But there are restrictions of where I urinate (if that's relevant)
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Apparently a couple of people are confused regarding ownership. Yes, you own your phone. No, you do not own the software or firmware on the phone. You own a licence to use the software and firmware. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but that is how it works.
Hope that helps.

Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol

Did you pay full retail or was your phone subsidized?

Also to be clear. It is not breaking this law to root the phone or install custom software. That is still the same.
The law is only concerning the carrier lock on the sim card.
So you can flash as many roms and stuff as you want as that won't effect sim locks. But if you modify the firmware to remove the sim card lock then that would be a violation of this law.

Jose0726 said:
Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol
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If you unlock it without the carriers approval you are breaking the law. If somehow you can write all the firmware, drivers, modems, etc from scratch along with a ROM that does not contain any lines of code from the carrier you may be able to go that route.
Being how most of us have Tmobile it's a non-issue anyway because T-mobile is very friendly regarding unlocking.

Fisrt we own the phone no one owns the softwear its open source, qualcomm has relased the source code for there drivers the only prob is the federal government is full of crooks but thats not here nor there. So anways why cant we unlock what is ours and open to us you tell me the carriers or the makers of the phone

Its just a bunch of stupid laws... all they want is new ways to keep spying on peoples privacy...example like wt. FB...

Fck the crooked system. It's my phone.
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This is an equivalence of purchasing digital media. The consumer may have purchased the digital media but they have no right to distribute the content unless they have permission from the distributor(s). Unlocking a phone (illegally) means the consumer is distributing the phone without the carrier's consistency.
I still signed the petition that's against the passing of the law anyways.
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Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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I agree with the post that states tmobile is friendly for unlocking...i got my unlock code for my sensation in less than a day....but whatever...say what thay say.

GalaxyS3Guy said:
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
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IMO you can burn it if you want, but don't be an idiot and display yourself burning it to the public lol.

daxecutioner24 said:
Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.

jcbofkc said:
Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.
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Yeah Ok... Cool story... XDA probably isn't the place for your uneducated political propaganda. Let's stick to phone talk
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Bootloader unlock?

So, since Sonic has this javacard that is able to get s-off for us on the HTC One, is anyone still looking at getting bootloader unlock / root / s-off in any other fashion? Or has this line of thinking been dropped all together? As in devs thinking it's not possible? Just curious as I would really like to get it done, but can't, because of my job, be without my phone. If it all comes to that, I will figure a way to get my phone to him. I have not pledged anything as of yet as I was waiting to find out what was going to happen.
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a dev just got enough donations to get the htc one and is going to work on a software exploit. Apparently the new hboot (1.54?) is so far locked down across carriers/ countries so hopefully, there will be plenty of devs working on this in the future.
Though I probably will get impatient and mail mine off in a week...

I personally don't think anyone would start working on this until the 4.3 update is out. With a new update, there could be a new hboot and different exploits.

I am a pretty new dev but I have not abandoned finding an exploit. Be patient, we will find one eventually.

I was just concerned that it had kinda fallen to the wayside since there is currently another way to get s-off. I hadn't seen anything in the last few days about finding a software exploit and it got me thinking about it. I never made a pledge in that thread due to that line of thinking. Figured if someone gets us root / unlocked I would send to them directly.
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Inane65 said:
I was just concerned that it had kinda fallen to the wayside since there is currently another way to get s-off. I hadn't seen anything in the last few days about finding a software exploit and it got me thinking about it. I never made a pledge in that thread due to that line of thinking. Figured if someone gets us root / unlocked I would send to them directly.
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This is true, but the bounty still re-mains for whomever cracks the code.
If you pledged and then did S-OFF with Sonic, your pledge still counts, and I feel most members will honor their word.
So one would hope anyway.

Just because none is posting about their progress doesn't mean it isn't being attended to. There is a lot of talent poking at it. It'll happen.
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Daswolven said:
Just because none is posting about their progress doesn't mean it isn't being attended to. There is a lot of talent poking at it. It'll happen.
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very true, take a look at older devices for example, some took up to 6 months..
you can send the phone to sonic or play the waiting game.
I am sending to Sonic personally. Got a nice box with some good bubble wrap and feel comfortable enough that it will hopefully not get lost and or stolen.
no risk no reward.

andybones said:
very true, take a look at older devices for example, some took up to 6 months..
you can send the phone to sonic or play the waiting game.
I am sending to Sonic personally. Got a nice box with some good bubble wrap and feel comfortable enough that it will hopefully not get lost and or stolen.
no risk no reward.
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I was heartbroken to send my new toy out so soon but it will be back today!
Probably worth it in the end.

GrayTheWolf said:
I was heartbroken to send my new toy out so soon but it will be back today!
Probably worth it in the end.
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I think it will be, I am a bit weary sending my $600 phone without insurance from NY to CO, but still worth it for me.
(does the $15 include the $600 insurance for the phone when he ships it back? or if it's lost or stolen on way back to you, what happens?)
I was hoping I could get my phone out today, but it looks like business calls again and can't be without it.
I am HTC Dev unlocked so I am not in NEED necessarily of S-OFF, just would like to have it to poke around.
I am going to lay low let those who really need it, the ones who got stuck not being able to do HTC Dev, then if credits are still there I will send it out. No need for me to be greedy and use a credit when it's not needed, yet anyway, I really want S-OFF, but I think others deserve it first since I am already rooted.

andybones said:
I think it will be, I am a bit weary sending my $600 phone without insurance from NY to CO, but still worth it for me.
(does the $15 include the $600 insurance for the phone when he ships it back? or if it's lost or stolen on way back to you, what happens?)
I was hoping I could get my phone out today, but it looks like business calls again and can't be without it.
I am HTC Dev unlocked so I am not in NEED necessarily of S-OFF, just would like to have it to poke around.
I am going to lay low let those who really need it, the ones who got stuck not being able to do HTC Dev, then if credits are still there I will send it out. No need for me to be greedy and use a credit when it's not needed, yet anyway, I really want S-OFF, but I think others deserve it first since I am already rooted.
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Insurance is included on the way back. I shipped mine for $16, 2-day shipping with insurance.

GrayTheWolf said:
Insurance is included on the way back. I shipped mine for $16, 2-day shipping with insurance.
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how much insurance did you put on the phone, also how does it work do you need a receipt to prove that the item is worth that much, do you just pay for insurance, also how much insurance did you get for the $16?

andybones said:
how much insurance did you put on the phone, also how does it work do you need a receipt to prove that the item is worth that much, do you just pay for insurance, also how much insurance did you get for the $16?
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Got $650 of insurance for like $6.75.

[q] q? How i can get s-off on htc one m7(verizon)

Hey guys, first. Thank you for visiting the post and bring a little valuable knowledge.
I have a HTC ONE M7 VERIZON - currently ROOT with WeakSauce2
There is a way to get free S-OFF - other than SUNSHINE ...
android version 4.4.3 - attached screenshot so you can see the version of software.
Not possible in the current version, there is a way back to the factory system?
Thank You.​

Only way to downgrade is to have s-off. For version 5.28.605.2 the only way to get unlocked and s-off is Sunshine, or pay for someone with a java card to s-off.
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s off
Oh my god
I want s-off freeeeeee

29y6145 said:
Oh my god
I want s-off freeeeeee
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And I want a free car, neither one is gonna happen. [emoji5]

It is a bit ridiculous that they're taking advantage of the situation though. Verizon shouldn't be allowed to lock phones down so thoroughly that a phone model that specifically is supposed to be supported by the company's own official "developer program" is actually locked out as it is. These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash. And if you have to get a different phone or something, you can't just "uninstall Sunshine" or something and reuse it. Nope. You get to buy it again. They don't even license it to one person, it's only licensed to one specific device. Simply put, they're taking advantage of everyone and getting away with it to make quite a lot of money on the process and everyone seems to be ok with that.
Now don't get me wrong here. I am not saying they shouldn't be allowed to make money. I'm sure they did a decent amount of work to find and utilize the new exploit(s) they are using and not sharing. To some extent, yeah, they should get money. Though I'm not convinced that donations alone wouldn't have been quite sufficient to more than cover their time and efforts with some small profit along the way (there are a lot of M7 users stuck with Verizon after all plus there can be advantages to Sunshine even when not on Verizon) I'll allow that they've a right to ask for money for this is general. My problem is the fact that they do that one device only for $25. That's a lot of money to run an exploit on a device one time and never again. A one user license for $25 would be a lot more fair and reasonable at least, but really I can't see why it shouldn't be more on the order of $5 or so anyway. Heck, let's say $10. But $25? They have us backed in a corner and they know it.

Nazo said:
It is a bit ridiculous that they're taking advantage of the situation though. Verizon shouldn't be allowed to lock phones down so thoroughly that a phone model that specifically is supposed to be supported by the company's own official "developer program" is actually locked out as it is. These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash. And if you have to get a different phone or something, you can't just "uninstall Sunshine" or something and reuse it. Nope. You get to buy it again. They don't even license it to one person, it's only licensed to one specific device. Simply put, they're taking advantage of everyone and getting away with it to make quite a lot of money on the process and everyone seems to be ok with that.
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But wait - - someone did a sh--load of work at the risk of nice phones to create an optional work-around to allow tinkerers to play with their phones.
Why shouldn't the guys who figured out what we can't figure out be paid ??????????

I tried to get you preemptively on that. Read my edit. Sorry, it took a bit before I realized someone was going to think I was saying they shouldn't get paid at all. Simply put, I'm not against them profiting at all. I'm against the way they're taking advantage of people. I do stick to my statement that donations alone would have been sufficient though. There are a lot of people who would have been really grateful for the exploits if posted and would have donated if they asked nicely (and maybe even if they didn't ask...)

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I tried to get you preemptively on that. Read my edit. Sorry, it took a bit before I realized someone was going to think I was saying they shouldn't get paid at all. Simply put, I'm not against them profiting at all. I'm against the way they're taking advantage of people. I do stick to my statement that donations alone would have been sufficient though. There are a lot of people who would have been really grateful for the exploits if posted and would have donated if they asked nicely (and maybe even if they didn't ask...)
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"These people" don't give a crap about what you or what Verizon does.
There is no HTC or dev program that allows you to s-off your device.
Nobody is taking advantage of you, they are offering you a service.
Either accept their service and pay what they ask for it, or don't.
But please stop this self entitled attitude that gets us nowhere and causes the few exploits and devs that make them to disappear completely.
Don't like it? Buy yourself a Java card for a few hundred bucks, or an iPhone.
If folks like these guys didn't go through burning up devices for our benefit, you would have zero options.
If they depend on the general public to be generous with donations, when giving it away for free, they would be sadly disappointed, trust me on this one...it happens a lot less then you might imagine.
People nowadays are far too content to take whatever they can and if nobody makes them give back, they won't think twice about it.
So, I really suggest ending this now, as this won't end well for you and certainly won't change anything for the better.
Only effect it could possibly have is to jeopardize your xda membership, reputation, and potentially drive away the people who worked so hard on your only real available option for s-off.

See, this is what I don't get. People will defend this sort of thing fighting tooth and nail for them even to the point of flaming and insulting others. It's silly. Ultimately things like this being locked behind a pay wall hurts the community as a whole.
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"These people" don't give a crap about what you or what Verizon does.
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Uhm... What?
There is no HTC or dev program that allows you to s-off your device.
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I'm guessing you misunderstood what I was saying? I'm specifically referring to the official HTC developer program by which one can enter and get an unlock token to officially unlock their HTC devices: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Verizon is the only one that chooses to disallow its users from doing this and I'm only saying that this creates the situation being discussed. If, for example, there were no service in which one could not unlock their device via the official program and the only point of Sunshine was to avoid going through all that and to make it possible to effectively warranty voiding checks, then that alone might be a valid reason for it to cost. (And I personally am ok with going through the official HTC program and losing warranty officially. That was never the issue for me.)
Nobody is taking advantage of you, they are offering you a service.
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I think you didn't really understand what I was saying. Basically Verizon has created a situation where people have no choice but to use exploits when they shouldn't have to. This, in itself, is already a not OK situation, but there's not much we can do about it short of using a different service (and some of us need various things like a particular plan/area/whatever.) The people behind Sunshine found a new exploit that works on the latest stuff (and claim it's hardware and unpatchable.) Great. But, they don't release it to the public. They keep it locked away behind a pay wall (and I'm sure the exact workings of it are encrypted and etc so people can't just reverse engineer the software easily or something.) Not just a pay wall though. They charge quite a lot for a single device. Then they don't let a user use what they paid for again ever. Nope. You get to unlock one device and that's it. Hence "taking advantage." They know we're backed up against the wall.
Either except their service and pay what they ask for it, or don't.
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Exactly. They know you have no choice. Your argument for them is actually against them.
But please stop this self entitled attitude that gets us nowhere and causes the few exploits and devs that make them to disappear completely.
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Who said self-entitled? I didn't say they owe it to me or something. I said this is ultimately bad for the community and the community shouldn't be happy with it and that they shouldn't charge so much for it or limit it so much. This is more a business discussion if anything. They don't owe it to me or anything, but they are still taking advantage of the situation. Essentially, it's extortion.

Nazo said:
Uhm... What?
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Nazo said:
These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash.
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They don't owe it to me or anything
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Oh good, then you do understand.... :good:
Good luck to you.

Before this exploit, there was firewater, moonshine, rumrunner for certain aged HTC devices, two worked on this phone. These were made by the same team that did Sunshine. They never got the income back via donations to pay for the countless bricked phones getting the exploit to work (yes, this type of exploit permanently damaged their test phones at $700 a pop.) This is why they had to resort to charging since the donations didn't make the lost money back.
Before the exploits worked on our phones, we HAD to pool money together and have a trusted member keep the java card, and pay him shipping and a fragment of the cost of the card. He made no money off this service either.
Do not sully and degrade and berate the payment wall. You bought a Verizon phone. A carrier who HATES their "customers" rooting their phones. Call Verizon support and say your phone is rooted and see their response. If you wanted an HTC phone that does work with htcdev, buy a different variant, or get the last Verizon model that did work, the Rezound.
Sunshine was made with the idea to s-off already rooted phones, unlocking Verizon variants is a side effect they don't put on the priority list. If it happens, it happens.
Edit: quick math for you. Let's say they had 20 failed attempts... For ONE device, if all 20 bricked the phone, that is $14000 $25 is reasonable given how many devices it works for and how much was spent to get it to work.
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Well I never heard any dev that locked their phones on failed attempts to find exploits. Doesn't that one dev that does the exploits work for HTC or Verizon and his job is to find these exploits? I guess I see nothing wrong with charging to get your phone unlocked and rooted. Maybe the price be a little less but I doubt he made a lot of money unlocking peoples phones. If you don't want to pay for having your phone unlocked then look at getting s nexus 6 off T-Mobile. Everything works on Verizon's network and you never have to worry about having a locked boot loader.

Dark Jedi said:
Well I never heard any dev that locked their phones on failed attempts to find exploits. Doesn't that one dev that does the exploits work for HTC or Verizon and his job is to find these exploits? I guess I see nothing wrong with charging to get your phone unlocked and rooted. Maybe the price be a little less but I doubt he made a lot of money unlocking peoples phones. If you don't want to pay for having your phone unlocked then look at getting s nexus 6 off T-Mobile. Everything works on Verizon's network and you never have to worry about having a locked boot loader.
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No, beaups nor jacase work for Verizon. They frequent the blackhat convention. Most exploits they do they either sell to the bug bounty or give to the community depending on certain factors. They are not on either company's payroll.
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I could swear jcase worked for HTC from one of his older posts form years ago. Oh well guess I was wrong. Just glad I rooted my phone when I first got it before everyone had to start paying!

Dark Jedi said:
I could swear jcase worked for HTC from one of his older posts form years ago. Oh well guess I was wrong. Just glad I rooted my phone when I first got it before everyone had to start paying!
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Nope lol

FRP [Factory Reset Protect] Removal for Samsung Galaxy S7 & Edge (SM-930V & SM-935V)

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xboxexpert said:
The total has now risen to the administration having over 10K of phones locked in her drawer with no way to bypass security lock.
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I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.

psouza4 said:
I would love to see a picture of 10,000 phones in a drawer.
I don't have a solid answer for you on the legality (and in fact I'm sure few here are experts in that regard) although you can probably safely assume the answer is no.
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I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
#guestimate

xboxexpert said:
I figured the SGS7's are at least 400 or 500 bucks each or something I haven't paid for a phone nor service is 7 years being employees here. Don't care to research how expensive they are however I know she has over 20 of them at the moment.
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Aw, you meant $10K value not 10K quantity. What a difference a character makes. I would have loved to see the ridiculous stockpile that 10,000 phones in a single drawer would look like

So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.

elliwigy said:
So are you saying you found a method or are going to try to find a method?
Any cobtribution is a good one but I am not familiar with the legality either but dont see it matter unless you are posting saying thieves can use it on a stolen device.
In all honesty, ppl legitamitely forget their passwords and lock themselves out I am sure all the time and at times if you purchase the phone from a third party theres really no way to remove or bypass it without proof of purchase or replacing the device which some might not have because of how it was purchased.
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I have successfully bypassed the FRP Reset Protection no matter how much security is on the phone, passcode, pattern, fingerprint. All are bypassed for a full clean factory reset.
So short answer, yes. Also there is a high likelihood that this method works on ALL variants.

I'm going to say trolly troll troll.
'Tis all.
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If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.

jayfried said:
If what your saying is true do the right thing and contact the manufacturer and carriers with it I'm sure that they would like to know. The fact that you haven't already isn't right.
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I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.

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I am in full agreement with this statement. However I have no idea where to start. Again this was basically proof of concept until it because a reality. Tested it at least 20 times and every time I've been able to bypass FRP 100%. Even gave it to my director and had him lock it down with fingerprint and google account and 10 minutes later he was speechless.
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Pm me the method. I want to try on my phone

I personally would contact MikeChannon (forum admin) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=335322 and go from there. I'm all for public disclosure but if you are worried about legal or forum rules I think he'd be more informed.

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The bypass method would not violate any law per se. The only issue that would be in question is if you own the phone or lease it.
Under that specific lease agreement it probably has wording about applying custom software to the phone.
~~~ oka1

ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.

BlueLightNight said:
ESN lockout is what makes turning over a lost or stolen phone difficult. And yet there is a huge grey-market trade on ebay and other places. I image they are all going overseas to get the appropriate chips switched out for resale. And if they have an operation set up for that, physically removing the flash chip and reprograming it would be a breeze. IMHO the lockout is more of a money generator for samsung so they can charge you to unlock it if you lock yourself out.
Describing the process is no more illegal than rooting. And if you figured it out, someone else will too. Only they might not share in hopes of selling the service or profiting somehow.
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Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....

or meaning someone else will release it anyways in time so whether you release it or not doesnt matter outside of you being "first" lol

xboxexpert said:
Meaning if I share then I'm opening up a whole new market that will explode as bad as Pokemon Go.....
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Actually it would destroy or prevent a market. Markets only exist for those who know how and can do it. At the moment that is Samsung. You don't share it and Samsung makes a bit more money. Then someone else figures it out and they also don't share.... you start seeing adverts on eBay priced a bit below Samsung for the "get back into your phone!" service (or maybe it's just you trying to make a buck ;P ) If you do release it or someone else figures it out and releases it. Well,... we will still see the adverts on ebay for the techna-challenged but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper because it is a known process thus many people offering thus competition.

rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw

PiousInquisitor said:
rootjunky has had an FRP bypass out for months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCvMLdyRuw
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Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.

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Go try it on your Verizon phone with latest security update patch.
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You try it. My phone is set up and running the way I want it. I'm not going wipe it for a silly reason like proving myself wrong or right. That's your job.
If it works or not isn't the whole point of posting the video. Clearly it's not illegal to expose how to get around FRP. If it were, RootJunky would have been charged and his videos pulled.
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Possible Note 10+ US snapdragon root???

No working root for note10+ US snapdragon in site you say??? A few months back @elliwigy with extreme syndicate release a working root method for the note 9 snapdragon, they did this by exploiting the combo files to bypass the locked boot-loader issue with newer US Samsung models. I was curious to see if this can also be achieved on the us note 10 plus. I have been working on that very problem but i seem to have hit a wall could use some fresh input. Is anybody else actively working on this if so I would like to team up and solve this problem....
yours in good code,
-C-Dubbenstein-

Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG

SomeGuy2008 said:
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
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Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also

see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/root-note-20-ultra-version-t4165703
appears to cover n10 among few other

Anyone tried this rooting/ bootloader unlock method successfully on an SM-N976U Note 10+5G from Tmo?
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This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)

w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door

TheMadScientist said:
Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.

w41ru5 said:
I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy

w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol

elliwigy said:
so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.

w41ru5 said:
I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
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lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons

elliwigy said:
lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
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So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?

Lol

dominick_7 said:
So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
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if u can find the group then yes, theres many that will vouch

most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy

AceDaMack said:
Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
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Looking for more info, contact me please

scuubee01 said:
Looking for more info, contact me please
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Hard to search and read?
instruction for noobs

TheMadScientist said:
Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
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thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.

mityakaramazov1866 said:
thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
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Well then do it