For the life of me, I can't get used to AOSP after trying Sense 2.0 (the factory one).
It looks too bland, and it seems so featureless compared to Sense roms. (I'm a big sucker for UI looks). I love the current ICS ROMs, but I want a fully functional one as a DD, so until the camera and other glitches are fixed, I'm looking for a daily driver.
Do you guys have any ideas? I would return to stock Sense 2.1 (Virtuous Sense, probably) but after having tried some Sense 3/3.5 ROMS, the 2.1 generation feels OLD.
I know the Desire Z wasn't meant to run Sense 3/3.5, but maybe you guys have ideas for other roms?
P.S.: I have tried MIUI, it's good for the occasional lookup, but it's too iOS-ish for my taste.
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Hi, i searched all over... some1 said to me that DeFrost would never likely be on the same ROM as Sense UI as they cancel each other out, I`ve found threads on here sowing the changelogs/bugfixes etc of DeFrost but what are all the PROs / CONs to Defrost ?
whats it got that renders sense UI uselss
thanks
The fact that there is no sense ui in Defrost. But just take a look at the defrost thread, all you need to know about, what it is and what it contains can be found there.
i moved from leedroids to defrost and have to say im impressed, support is amazing, its lighting fast and battery is also great, sense only takes up space and slows down the system.
I currently use defrost and it is fast. Alot faster and smoother then leedroid, however i think im going to go back to a sense rom.
This is for a number of reasons but mainly because of all the widgets and apps and extensions of sense. Once you try to get some of the functionality back that sense offers the rom starts to become as bloated anyway.
It you want sense use a sense rom, if not use a AOSP rom. TBH it is best to try them both out and see which you prefer.
I find that defrost is much faster, assuming you're using launcher pro, its more responsive to the touch... in my case anyway. the only downside to defrost i think is the camera skin... its ugly as hell. I love the camera interface on sense, although the video recording (720p) is much better on defrost.
anddd you can flash so many different kernels to your different needs on defrost, personally i like HAVS 1113 mhz BFS 875mA the best.. but thats only cause my desire can handle the low voltage
DeFrost is better in battery live and speed (of course it is a non-Sense ROM).
Sense ROMs (like LeeDroid) is according to my taste more beautiful and it is somehow like a birthmark of the Desire. The new Sense (HD or Z porting) is even more awesome than the ordinary Sense.
But of course, Sense will drain your battery and resources more than without Sense.
That is why I find it hard to decide which ROM I should use.
I am now on Z ROM...but dunno how long this will last...
I had my Desire for about a year now, and i tried lots of ROM's all from Sense, AOSP to MIUI,
but haven't could decide me of which one i should choose.
I'm not the biggest fan of miui, it's smooth but it's iphonish...
I like lot of the aosp rom's, because of the 'cleanness' and speed.
Sense looks nice but is a bit slow I think, but thats just my opinion.
Have u any suggestions for either a fast sense rom or anything?
I tried most ROM's here on XDA, but i'm always coming back to Oxygen.
300mb+ free space on NAND after system flash ftw. also speed.
Here's my opinions on the different types of roms. MIUI is iphonish yes but it is AOSP and runs really well. Out of the pure AOSP roms, I prefer CM7. The stuff that has been added to it is awesome. It's smooth, stable (avoid the early releases of CM7). Currently though, I am using AceSMod Lite. I found that this AceSMod is a pretty stable and the best battery life rom out of all the Sense roms. I have pretty much tried all roms except the pure Sense 3 roms.
At the end of the day, it's just best to try out all the roms and see which you like the best. There is no "the best" rom out there. They are all different from each other.
More and more Roms, whether they are sense-based, AOSP or MIUI, become very similar, with the main (marginal) differences lie in :
included or excluded apps (especially for Sense roms important: htc bloatware ftw?)
the activity of the developer (-team)
boot flash
hboot layout
Technically most of them use the same kernel (snq anyone?), the same scripts for a2sd (or forks thereof) and such.
So, as you may have noticed already, in the end it's all up to personal preference. I've been trying a lot of roms myself, and usually end up with GingerVillain again.
Why? I like its clean and light set up, the OTA app for upgrading & mods and because I've been running Richard Trip's Roms when defrost was released.
(with included acknowledgement of the CM7 dev team ofc! )
Regarding sense roms, I used SGBS (sense 2.1) for a while and InsertCoin.
AuraxTremeGinger on Oxygenr2 hboot with LauncherPro is the best by far for me. I have sticked with it the longest period of time after flashing all kinds of stuff. It could be a little smoother as it is based on leak, but the stability is epic. So I have created myself fast, reliable ui with lots and lots of space. In your face aosp
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That's what it's all about in the end: personal user experience with a phone, what's beneath it - sense, aosp, miui, whatever - doesn't matter all that much, as long as it works for you.
Another one here running GingerVillain 2.7
Was the first ROM I tried and loved it from the start. I added Launcher Pro to it the other day because the home screens were a bit sticky, and now it's running lightning fast!
Love the fact that it has the CM7 tweaks in it and LP adds even more options.
So glad I rooted my phone.
Personal preference comes down to it does
Also, many threads of this exact topic there are
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Totally agree with meaple. Except for the fact about sense roms, have not tried any them very long, because I like the cleanness of aosp roms like oxygen and redux. This is why I stay with oxygen at the moment (redux gets since nearly three months). Seems to be perfect for me. Also tried cm7, but it has too much hacks which I do not need.
The ROM changes all the time on my phone. I like Oxygen, Redux and sometimes Sense ROM with Sense removed (eg using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027804). most of the ROM has one or 2 problems which bugs me.
In the end I find I always go back to my plain stock HTC ROM+rooted+A2SD (and no other hacks). It seems to give me the least amounts of issues.
Im using the latest InsertCoin sense rom (1.0.9) and its very smooth and stable.
I've tried them all from MIUI to the AOSP roms and for me anyway this one feels like the complete package.
My favorites are:
Sense: InsertCoin stable hybrid (2.1 + 3.0)
AOSP: Oxygen
MIUI: none (sorry MIUI fans)
I actually cuite like sense roms, it's just that.. i feel like it uses a lot of power even when it's on standby. That is cuite annoying i think.
Right now i'm using Oxygen though.
no matter what ROM I go to, I always go crying back to cyanogenmod ... it's reliability, performance and general features are unbeatable by anything else.. simply the most awesome ROM available
CM(Nightlies) hands down.
Tried a few sense roms, but I actually hated them.
Even when they are cleaned of most of the bloatware,they still feel overloaded to me.
Haven't tried MIUI so far.
Reflex S 2.1.7. with gingerbread by Neophyte
Been using RCmixS until the recent InsertCoin update(1.0.9).. Two of the best sense ROMs available..
Been running cm7.1 for a while and I am thinking of hopping on to a sense rom just wonder what roms you guys recommend. This will be my first time encountering sense so ive heard good and bad things about it but i just need to witness it for my self.
You may try an untouched stock rom or virtous one. But I dont recommend Virtous Unity because sense 3.0 is a resource enemy. Sense luncher always resets itself. Memory Management was awful. And I dont think Desire Z has the ram to run Sense 3. It was unusable for me.
Now I am happy with CyanogenMod.
Virtuous has a bunch of Sense based ROMs. Peruse the Android Development sub-thread for more Sense ROMS. If you don't like Sense then go with MIUI. I don't like Sense so I tried out MIUI and I liked it, but then I went back to Cyanogenmod for it's simplicity and speed.
Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Previously I was using ARHD (sense) and go launcher, and I've just updated to the new ARHD with sense 3. As much as I like it, it's not quite as minimalist as I liked with go launcher and my battery life is not as good (sense is a battery hod, no denying).
I'm tempted to go the other way; CM7 with no sense features. What are the advantages of this? Why do some people prefer no sense?
Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
I can't answer all your questions however I recently went from RCMix3d 1.4 runny to CM7 and I'm loving the change. The battery life is excellent and it makes me wonder why I was using sense in the first place.
I don't even miss it that much, apart from the odd thing. I'll take longer battery life over flashy show off animations any day
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Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
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No, the HTC apps won't run without the Sense framework.
Beyond that, I'm not going to persuade you with way; the only way to decide is to backup, flash cm7 and see which one you prefer.
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I suggest giving MIUI a try. It is basedd om CM7,has great features and is very easy to customise!
Definately take a look at MIUI as well Its an AOSP rom like CM7 but with some very nice additions. If you like to try out different themes and lots of personalization options MIUI is definately the way to go.
But in the end both ways (sense or no sense) have their advantages. What i dont like about sense is that its so bloated up with stuff you rarely ever use. You can cleane some of it with scripts like rom cleaner but still we're talking 350mb rom (sense) vs 80-90mb rom (CM7 or MIUI).
On the other hand with sense you get one good looking theme and good to very good apps for all the features of your phone. On CM7 you might need to find another app to play music via DLNA for example and another app for weather and so on.
sense and see how you feel if you dont like then go for no sense .....simple really
im with sense atm and feel that it is good
you could try the better of both worlds by flashing DeDense from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207645
Try Helios 0913 for a CM7 rom if you're gonna try one. It'll make you not wanna go back. These forums are crowded with sense roms that look exactly the same and offer nothing different, except some visual stuff, than the other 20 or so sense roms that are here. A good AOSP rom is hard to find on HTC phones now. Like I said though, try Helios or better yet, Hydrogenmod and you'll forget all about sense.
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I love Helios too but, more broadly, I went the way of CM7-based ROMs in general + Lord Clockan's amazing kernels and never looked back.
I never enjoyed such a snappy and responsive device when I was on Sense-based ROMs. Ditto battery life. I'm a massive CyanogenMod fanboy now, and will be flashing Nightlies (which are in a very good condition ATM) until Richfish updates Helios.
People on Sense ROMs have good things to report too, though, so my suggestion (which you've probably already heard a million times) is to try stuff out for yourself.
No one will be able to tell you what you would prefer. Test out a CM rom and a sense rom. Make your own mind up.
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i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
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Hope this is the right place to make this question.
i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
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I recommend inc2 mctwist or optimized shift bother are sense 2.1. Both are about as stable as you're gonna get with a non stock based rom. Most sense 3.0+ Roms don't get any support anymore and bugs never got fixed. I personally use aosp (incdeck) but the incredible really can't handle anything above 2.1 sense
I can second inc2 mctwist. It seemed to be the fastest and most stable non stock sense based rom for me. Personally though I still prefer AOSP roms. Hope you find one that works for you!
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I keep going back to the stock+ rom. All the features of the 3.0/3.5 roms are nice but the little bugs here and there bother me.
The bells and whistles are nice but they come at a price of poor battery life and lag due to our outdated hardware. I had good luck with Synergy which was a 2.1/3.x hybrid but is no longer supported.But I do always find myself going back to stock builds.
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