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[Q] dhd roms

hi all
ok so i have downgraded, used radio s off. tool, and done clockwork mod using rom manager from app store. now all i need is a 2.3 rom. (recomended) i downloaded a rom using rom manager but im not getting anywere. what next.. i know im nearly there.. please help... oh titanum is awsum backed up all system and app data..
it says download started in rom manager but nothing downloads.. (coredroid)
been pulling my hair out past 2 nights

It's better if you just choose the rom from this list and download it from the links in their respective threads rather than rom manager. You will have less problems and always get the newest update. Use this guide to flash.

hi, i got my DHD few weeks ago & couple of days ago i successfully installed ARHD 4.0 beta 4 sense rom on my DHD exactly as the way it has been instructed on the specific thread. everything is running smoothly, good battery life without using any battery saver programs like juicedefender, greenpower.
now i was thinking about trying the ARHD 3.3 rom as it is overclocked to 1.22ghz. how can i install that on my DHD? do i have to downgrade anything? or i can just download the rom & use rom manager to install it?
thnx in advance for the help.

hi al...
sorry cant help, you could start a thread of your own though... sorry but its whats called hijaking... maybe 1 of the mods will say the same..
thanks

so as well as radio s off i need eng s off.. arnt they the same... the guide you put is confusing...
thanks

If you've read the thread you would have noticed this:
jkoljo said:
What's the difference to other methods?
First of all, this is easy. The steps are straightforward, you do not need to tinker with complicated command line stuff. Radio S-OFF is the way these devices are meant to be made S-OFF, it is a safe way. If you use this method, reverting to stock is very easy! Unfortunately without ENG bootloader (my other tool) you cannot use fastboot commands (advanced stuff) and, for example, my Kernel Update Utility. To make a raw comparison, this tool is for everybody including new users and the eng hboot S-OFF version is for enthusiasts. Many experienced users have both, because having both allows supreme flexibility.
I recommend to use Radio S-OFF instead of traditional bootloader ENG S-OFF, because this can be more easily removed and is much much safer!
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So no eng s-off and radio s-off aren't the same, but they're as easy to do. Eng s-off isn't necessary so you can decide if you want it or not.

so to be clear
im rooted , recovery installed i have s off using radio..
i dont need eng s off.
i can download and install a rom now.
also in the guide it mentions flashing a radio.. whats this..
thanks

Flashing radio is when you change the "firmware" for the module that handles all the wireless data (mobile network, wifi etc). This is done to improve signal strength and battery life with newer radio version. It isn't necessary either, but if you have poor signal strength and battery life it could help. Here is a guide for the procedure. This is probably the riskiest part to flash (it can brick your phone), but if you do everything exactly as the guide says there should be no problems.
For this you need eng s-off

so no need for radio... just download rom Android Revolution HD - 4G 4.0 beta4.
put on sd card and flash... is that it... oh sorry wat and were is the full wipe zip...
thanks for this.

Flash full wipe before flashing the rom, here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868720
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well ive done it. Android Revolution HD - 4G 4.0 beta4. is now installed.
what are peoples thoughts on this rom.
in titanium would restoring system and app data be dangerous, should it be apps only.
ive downloaded set cpu.. to speed things up..
i must say the extra bits and bobs from the stock rom ie apps page, all apps, frequent apps, and downloaded. is a good idea..
any other ideas which are a must... even a recomended rom.
thanks
p.s can i do s off to s on now...

anyone.. can i do s off now ive flashed

Just keep it s-off as it should be now, no need to change it.
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[Q] RIL Firmware Drivers

Hi everyone,
I'm new at xda developers, and I recently started experimenting with rooting, custom ROMs, etc. I have a question about the RIL firmware drivers. Hope you guys can help me out.
Lately I've been following the progression of baadnewz's InsertCoin ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940), a Desire port of the Desire S ROM (with sense 2.1); you probably already know it. I want to give it a try, but - coming from CM7/prerooted stock roms - I noticed that baadnewz recommends upgrading the radio to the latest version, as well as the ril-firmware-drivers.
I understand the RIL is some kind of mediator between the ROM and the radio. Therefore, is it true that a specific RIL can only be used with a corresponding ROM (version), or has the ROM nothing to do with it? The reason I'm asking this question is because I want to make sure the newer radio+ril will still work in case I decide to return to my old stock ROM. And in general, is it ok to presume that a newer radio+ril will be at least as good as an older radio, regardless of the ROM installed? (I've never upgraded my radio btw)
Thank you!

RIL is not neccesary, use it if things dont work well, it may improve situation, but it is likely that you will have to experiment till you found one that works best for your phone & rom & radio.
RIL is stored in ROM part, so every time you change ROMs, RIL you flashed is gone.
also you do not need to upgrade your radio, do it only if stuff doesnt work fine after flashing a custom ROM.
you also mentiond coming back to stock rom - when you ran a RUU, it also flashes a RADIO and a RIL, so no worries there
every radio comes with its own RIL, but experience showed, that not necessairly they work well together when it comes do diffrent devices on diffrent networks and diffrent roms.
so - flash your rom, if it is ok that leave things be, if not - upgrade your radio, and then you can start flashing RILs
remmember to make NANDROID before flashing RIL and also that in order to flash RIL you must mount \system in recovery.
radio flashes are safest from fastboot if you are S-OFF, if not you can do them from recovery

Thank you for your reply, really appreciate it
I have one last question, just out of curiosity.. You mentioned that radio flashes are safest from fastboot. Why is that?
I'm still S-ON so I won't be able to use fastboot for flashing... Would you recommend S-OFFing to minimize the risk of bricking my phone, in case I decide to flash a new radio?
Thnx

well you can flash radio from recovery, lots of ppl do that without any problems. i never tried it myself.
i think fastboot method is safer since it doesnt involve rebooting your phone during the procedure but not sure how exactly is this safer, it just has been stated many times, that flashing radio fastboot method is SAFEST.
anyway going S-OFF (cd method i used) is super easy, just be sure not to have a2sd+ or data2xxx rom while doing that.
oh and apart from minor advantages like changing your splashscreen or the ability to delete apps from \system while booted up in android there is one BIG advantage - the option to use custom partion table. I am running InsertCoin v19 on CM7 hboot version, and is not only super fast but also it provides lots of space for apps
it definietly faster than insertcoin HD data2ext i used before going S-OFF

[Q]Couple of rooting questions.

Hello, I am a noob, i dont want to be a noob, but i am one anyway, so be kind and answer my noob questions
( and yes i did tried to find the answers and no i didn't find them.. )
1. after rooting with unrevoked - ( default sttings - no touching )
what ROM whould i have?
the same Stock HTC Sense Froyo - Android 2.2 + ROOT (superuser, busybox..)
or a Stock Android 2.2 rom?
1.1 and could i install apps2sd+ on that rooted system?
1.2 or i would be without any rom, and i would need to install one from the SD from Recovery ( the default one after enrevoked - Clockwork )
( i'm planning on this one)
1.3. if i do have some rom installed after unrevooked: what do i get from that Rom i wish to download from XDA that i dont get in the Rom after enrevoked?
anywhere i look for the anser to that i cant find a difinative answer for that..
2. what is the recommended methon to create an ext3/4 partition and what is the max or recommended partition size for Desire (i have 16GB low-class sandisk SD, but i dont mind waitng)

well the answers ARE out there (yes they are) but here you go again:
1.1) after gaining root with unrevoked you will simply have a stock HTC rom with root access (and a custom recovery - clockworkmod)
1.2) you cannot apply A2SD+ to this ROM you will have right after rooting, what you can do is to download a pre-rooted Stock ROM (same as one you have now) with A2SD+ implemented. however it would be stupid, custom roms are faster, better in performance and in battery life so go for them)
1.3) i guess the answer is the same as for the 1.2nd Q
2) best method is to use Gparted Live CD (it is a bootable CD) download it and burn to a CD then boot it up @ pc. mount USB storage in recovery on the phone, plug it in PC and format your sd.
for a2sd+ FAT32 and after a 1GB EXT3/4 (ext4 is better, dont use more than 1GB it may cause trouble, and 1GB is looots of space)
for data2ext or other there should be a recommended partition layout that will make them work as good as they can in your ROM's thread.
also as you are a new user i do recommend going S-OFF (is as easy as rooting, seriously - CD method) then appling a custom hboot and running an InsertCoin ROM CM7 - with custom hboot it will be super fast and you will get lots of space.
when doing S-OFF remember to be either on stock rooted rom or on oxygen rom.

Thanks for the answer, for now i'm planning on the Stock pre-rooted one with a2sd+.
that's because i'm looking for a rom with:
1. Sense ( Froyo sense since the GingerB sensation sense needs S-OFF..)
2. a2sd+ ( Max optimal size for the partition )
2. Minimal add-on apps on the Rom.
3. Minimal removed apps ( maybe with ability to manualy remove a system app but i dont know if that again requires S-OFF )
4. maybe a gingerbread style shutdown\wakeup ( CRT Style ) animation?
i allready searched the pinned topics for a Rom like that and all i found is the pre-rooted stock..
i dont want to be deviating from the Stock sense with too many changes, and on the other hand i do want to be able to make some changes to the rom.
the rom i currently wish to use has Undervolt -100mv and it says it's for support with the kernel of the RUU, but if it's a pre rooted why isnt it allready supporing the RUU..?
and in that Rom's page there is a recommended Radio img, but i Dont have to change to it right..? ( It's only recommended NOT required.. )
anyway my RUU+Radio is:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe

Nearly all GB ROM's will work fine with S-ON (Stock HBOOT), dunno where did you get this info.
Example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195]

k3lcior said:
Nearly all GB ROM's will work fine with S-ON (Stock HBOOT), dunno where did you get this info.
Example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195]
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got that info from my local android fans forum, which also didnt gave me difinative answer yet..

Then now you know - you dont need S-OFF for Gingerbread A2SD ROM's.

As for number 2.
Use g-parted to make the partitions, there is a video guide in the desire dev forums, its on of the stickys. I would post a link, but I'm not at my pc . You don't really want to go over the 1GB for the ext partition, any thing bigger starts to slow down the ROM
I had a feeling that the GB roms did need a new radio, or at least some if them do. But the ROM should tell you if that is the case.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

in both the Roms i now intresten in it says 'Recommended' Radio, and since i'm a Noob user i do not have premission to post at the dev forums and ask on the Rom's topic.
one of them is acually the radio i ahve now, but the LeeDroid one Recommends a deffrent one and again from the info i gathered from my local forum for android 2.3 with Sense i HAVE to change the radio, is that true \ false?
is Recommended = Required || OR || Recommended != Required..
<@LeeDrOiD-> matched radio is generally a good idea - iRC channel...

you never MUST change radio
it is only recommended, do it if you encounter problems with connectivity after flashing a rom (reception, wi-fi etc)
however i think you MUST have a radio from 2.2 (froyo) roms at least
if you rooted while on 2.2 you should be ok, if you were on 2.1 while rooting try updating the radio

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054435
Awesome rom ... try it Don't need s-off
Flash radio from first page also ...
3. Minimal removed apps ( maybe with ability to manualy remove a system app but i dont know if that again requires S-OFF ) - System app remover is an option

why in LeeDroid's rom and and the last submitted rom, there's undervolt?
why does the Rom needs to be undervolt and how does that effect the preformance&stability of the system?
Also What is the best method for saving space ( a2sd+ \ data2whatever \ ...? )

ROMs dont need undervolting, they dont need anything...
undervolting is set up in kernel, and it means the processor will work under smaller voltage which leads to better battery life but generally it compromises stability. however they wouldnt set it to a value that would cause trouble, so this is just an info for geeks so that they know that by default the kernel provided with rom undervolts the cpu (some may not like that, as they want for example best performance - overclocking rather than undervolting)

Thanks alot guys, you really helped me!
hopefully the rooting would go as smooth as butter,
i havn't dicided on a rom yet, since all the ones you sent in this thread are looking great!

Just try all of them and decide yourself.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I also wouldn't recommend that you do the S-Off until you've played with rom's and decided that you really must try a CM7 hboot rom or something. There's plenty can be done with S-On and it gives a degree of safety against bricking the phone. I speak from experience. I did however recover mine in the end after much learning but I really wouldn't go S-Off unless / until you understand the dangers associated with it and the somewhat limited benefits to those who know little of Linux or the Android OS.

[Q] Questions about rooting

Since I got my HTC wildfire late last year I've been following these forums and reading up on android terminology. Thanks to all those who warned me not to update my phone, I was so close to doing so however I believe that these can be rooted now. I've finally got annoyed with the shortage of memory on eclair and now that I have a bit more time over the summer I want to root it and so I have a few questions.
1) I know that to "unroot" I need to use an RUU. Looking on shipped roms, I can't see a vodafone uk eclair RUU, so which one would I use?
2) After creating a gold card, will you be able to use the sd card as normal (ie to store music, videos, photos, apps etc)
3) Looking around, there are many different recoveries in the development forum, I know that unevoked already comes with a recovery but should I use that one or another?
4) Has the switched off chargeing problem been fixed in clockwork recovery?
5) After rooting, I plan to install CM7. Does everything thing work properly in CM? (I ask this because a while back (before CM7) I read that that camara didn't work as well as stock and that the FM radio didn't work at all)
6) I know that there is official froyo apps 2 sd but I've seen other unofficial ones around. What are the differences between all of these and which one should I use?
7) I know that CM7 is a non-sense rom, I don't think I'll miss much of sense except the clock/weather widget. Is there anything available that is exactly like the htc clock/weather widget?
8) I know there are different radios around, will I need to update mine?
Thanks

1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181

technolust109 said:
1) maybe, depends on the method of rooting
2)yes you will be able to, the gold card only changed the hexcode inbiult, so you should be able to store things on the sd card
3)clockmod is the way to go for me, i had a htc desire and it worked brilliant for me.
4)if you dont want to use that version of clock mod you can also use a previous version which will do the same thing.
5)and when you install and download CM7, make sure you download the specific version form the websute for your device.
6)it doesnt really mater, its just moving the apps to the sd card form the phone, this is done by rooting it and gaining root acess.
7)an widget app similar to that is beautiful widgets ( i think you need to pay fro it but get it form 4shared or somewhere else) but they have most htc widgets, and MAYBE there might be ports in the future or have been done already.
8)it is recomended to upgrade your radio when you do your first root.
all information and downloads should be able to be downloaded i nthe index page of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
and ALL custom roms made my people are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
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1) My method of rooting would be unevoked
4) What version of clockmod would you recommend?
8) Is updating the radio risky? and can you undo it if needed?

any answers?
Also I got one more question,
When should I create a gold card, before/after root? or after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance

1) You are on Eclair, in which case you can only go with Unrevoked. No other alternative, so, there are no issues there.
4) There are essentially two versions - 2.x and 3.x, and, honestly, you will want to keep both, because 2.x supports flashing of Radios and Froyo ROMs, and 3.x supports flashing Gingerbread ROMs. What you can do is when using Unrevoked, Select Custom Recovery Image, and Point it to a 3.x Recovery File. This way, your primary Recovery will be 3.x. Then, download ROM Manager from the Market, Select Install Clockworkmod Recovery from within that app, and it will install 2.x on your SDCard (Secondary Recovery). So, essentially, you have both.
8) Radio flashing is not risky per se, but, you have got to be careful and follow basics like not interrupting the process, making sure you have sufficient battery charge etc. because, mistakes here can brick your phone. You cant "undo" it but you can flash your old radio version again.
- Goldcard is only needed when flashing an RUU. If you are simply rooting using Unrevoked and installing Custom ROMs, you dont need one.
lastly, make sure you use an old version of Unrevoked, (3.14 upto 3.21), not the latest.

Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32

Rooted but....
hi. i just got a htc wildfire and i want to install cyanogen mod. I already rooted my phone using alpharevX and got the S-OFF message. But when i install ROM manager and tried to install CN7 i got the message " An error occured while attempting to run privileged commands". Is there something wrong or something that i missed?

S-OFF =/= rooting.

fireice7 said:
Thanks for your amazing post
Could I ask why an old version of unrevoked is needed?
Where can I get an old version from as when I click on wildfire on the unrevoked website it gives me v3.32
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The newer version actually lowers compatibility with the Wildfire, rather than raising it. You are bound to get some error or other, unless extremely lucky. (And the most common one would be "Firmware too new?" error).
Just try searching the Wildfire Forum for links. Many have uploaded 3.14, but unfortunately, the posts are all scattered somewhere.
EDIT:, NVM, You can get it here:
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.14/reflash_package.exe

There is also clockworkmod 4.x should I use that?
and
Which method would you recommend for flashing new roms, via rom manager or recovery?
Thanks for all your help

Yes, you can. Although I am still sticking with 3.1.0.2, because of two reasons - laziness and a few reports by users which suggest some problems with 4.x. Compatibility between 3.x and 4.x is the same though - ie. you can only install Gingerbread ROMs on them.
Also, personally, I prefer flashing ROMs through Recovery, rather than ROM Manager.

If you are S-OFF, you can stay on CWM 3 and use the PC49IMG.zip file to flash a radio. Simply put inside the android-info.txt from a RUU and the radio.img you want to flash, then reboot under HBOOT.

[Q] My plans for reinstalling my phone - any pro tips?

Hello everyone,
so for the past 3 years I've been using CM7 on my HTC Desire Z (permanently rooted, S-OFF), but lately it got rather slow sometimes.
So I came to the conclusion: "Why not do a complete overhaul and do it right this time?" (when I've rooted it first, I didn't know about the whole wide wonderful world of xda )
As a base for that, I currently have 4Ext Recovery 2.4.6b with CyanogenMod 7.2.0 (stable), the mentioned S-OFF, hboot 0.84.2000 (PC1011000) and Radio 26.03.02.26_M (information from bootloader)
I'm gonna start with a backup of my current ROM obviously, the question is: What's next?
1. My conclusion was that updating the bootloader would be the first step.
Will upgrading my bootloader (to, say, hboot 0.85.0013, still trying to find it) give me any advantages or will it be more of a hassle?
2. Next up imo would be to see, if I can somehow optimize the partitioning of my internal storage (I've read of people running into trouble when trying to flash gapps, some partition size was too small)
Is there any way to do that or would it have any useful effect except for the gapps-problem (which I only found on KitKat-ROM threads)
3. Third step would be to flash recovery (will probably be necessary after re-partitioning). I'll choose 4EXT again.
B]4.[/B] Next in line would be flashing my new ROM: Alterndromadus CM 10.1 (shouldn't be much of a problem when the rest, including works correctly I guess)
5. After I've done that, I'd like to flash a new kernel (battery+speed improvements). I'm not sure though if I do that before or after flashing the ROM.
6. Next up is installing Xposed Framework (with XPrivacy) and one kind of "supercharger" (this or this )
Here I'd like to ask if they somehow interfere with each other the bad way.
?. One thing that I have left out and don't really know where to put them are radios.
My current one 26.03.02.26_M works rather fine, but I think there's some more potential to it (be it reception or battery life) with an updated one (preferable the newest).
Are those carrier-specific or can I use them with any carrier whereever I go? (o2 in Germany, just so you know)
I know this is a lot I'm asking but maybe this could be a help for anyone who wants to optimize his phone's performance.
All contributions are greatly appreciated! :angel:

If you want a different kernel you need to flash it after flashing the ROM. Also the problem about internal storage and GApps: as long as you flash the right hboot you should be fine, basically you need to flash the Desire Z hboot which gives you a bigger system parition (because the Desire Z had Sense which was bigger than AOSP which came on the G2) and you'll be set. I won't tell you how to do everything here, just find the appropriate guides for what you want to do here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266 I personally wouldn't recommend any "performance" scripts but it's up to personal choice... if you think it makes your device better due to better multitasking or even just placebo then no-one's stopping you. Just be warned that I've discovered that most of the time those scripts make you think your device is faster just by disabling transition animations....