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4G Service Sucks....

Mine barely ever connects and then when it does, its like it doesn't know because no pages will load(connection error). Got my azz handed to me by Bionic yesterday. My coworker and I were out for happy hour and did a little speed test on 4g...yep he definitely got me.
I need some WIMAX tweaks immediately!!! LOL..but not really LOLing. Im serious

Verizon's network is better. (fact)
Sprint's phones are better. (fact, with minor opinion)
It's a hard choice, but Sprint's network is fantastic in Florida, so I can't really complain.

sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me

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sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me
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Same here. Full bar 4G inside my place in SoCal
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Bad 4g is normal with sprint
Sprint's wimax has a 2.5ghz frequency
This means it doesnt do to well when passing walls
Verizon's lte has a 700mhz frequency thats why it was better range
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I dont even have Sprint 4G here in Phoenix, and their 3G sucks. I get about .40mbps on average in Phoenix.

4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.

boe said:
4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.
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Sprint's 4G & 3G suck!

My 4g inside my house on first floor also sucks but verizon 4g also sucked at my house. In fact verizon dropped occasional calls and I needed to get a network extender. Sprint's network will get better but will probably need lte phone in the future to take advantage of it.

Try the wimax tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&page=6
Basically lets wimax latch on to a weaker signal

im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me

Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.

anubis13 said:
Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.
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well..umm..theres always VZ if it doesnt meet your needs? not trying to be funny but if you are dissatisfied maybe you should look into VZ if it doesnt work in the places you need it to homie

Success100 said:
im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me
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Same here, I was getting a little slower speeds but for the past week or so that's what I been getting

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Just outside of NW Houston, not super fantastic, but good imo
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I don't understand topics like this.
Its one thing to try to fix this issue (via tweaks, etc) its another to whine.
Feel free to leave any carrier whose network is not performing to your standards.

I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!

ravenstarr said:
I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!
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Yes, it sucks but the $10 premium is even for smartphones that do not have 4G.

Sprints 3g speeds have been pretty bad. Anyone I meet on other carriers have like 3mbps while mine has like 1mbps. One bar of 4g signal and I am at 3mbps, two or three bars and I am at 6mbps or more.

Sprint 4g works pretty well for me up and down the east coast anyway in major cities. I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in airports and hotels near airports. The only place I find Sprint to kind of suck is oddly New York.
I had T-mobile which worked most places but their service sucked for speed especially at my home, solid bars but only .4 Mbps with whereas I get 1 Mbps 3g and 8 Mbps 4G with Sprint. Almost as fast as my Comcast cable internet.
Anyway YMMV. Probably VZW is the "best" but their data plans suck with 2Gb limit and they're expensive as hell with poor customer service. Instead of complaining how about doing a little research, ask friends, and take advantage of the trial period and figuring out which works best for you in your area.

T Mobile throttling.

When T-Mobile throttles you after 2gb of HSPA+ data usage, do they throttle you to 3G or down to EDGE?
I'm wondering because I'm giving a lot of consideration to switching to T Mobile to get the SGS3 and I was wondering this.
Also, anyone who has T Mobile now, what is your usage like? How many gigs do you use monthly?

Hey from what I can tell they throttle you down to 2g, I have the 5 gb data plan you should call customer loyalty or retention and ask for the android preferred plan its 5 gbs for 20 worst they could say is no. I've been with tmo for about 6 yrs and have been very happy with them. Had Att/Cingular before and hated their customer service, also reception with tmo is actually very good since they have wifi calling it allows me to get reception where many carriers just don't get reception.
Data usage wise it really depends what you use your phone for I use around 4 gbs monthly but I tether heavily about 6 hrs a week, streaming youtube and pandora. If I didn't tether I would prob use less then 2 gbs I would think. It really depends just what you do on your phone. (I dont use my phone to watch Youtube or anything I just tether).

I have a 2gb 4g plan and on occasion I go over my limit, however, I have not noticed a big difference in speed. I'm sure if I ran a speed test I would be able to see drastic change in speeds but for steaming music and video I never have to wait for it to buffer or anything.
The only times I really go over my limit is if I am on the road and I am tethering my laptop or tablet.

iCaptivate said:
When T-Mobile throttles you after 2gb of HSPA+ data usage, do they throttle you to 3G or down to EDGE?
I'm wondering because I'm giving a lot of consideration to switching to T Mobile to get the SGS3 and I was wondering this.
Also, anyone who has T Mobile now, what is your usage like? How many gigs do you use monthly?
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When you go over your limit, you get throttled down to EDGE until you come up on a new month, and yes, it is very drastic going from 4G to edge :-/.
You can stream music *google music/pandora* on edge.
Everyone's answer is going to vary wildly on data usage.. I had 5 GB, streamed music everytime I was in the car, surfed a lot while away from wifi .. but when I was around wifi I kept it on.
I averaged a little over 2 GB .. only hit anywhere close to 5 GB a month that I didn't have wifi at home.

I had T Mobile before. but the throttle was from when I got into over 5gb. Since this is 2gb I figured they'd put me on 3G.

I think technically they throttle you to EDGE speeds, but your phone still uses WCDMA (3G).

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I think technically they throttle you to EDGE speeds, but your phone still uses WCDMA (3G).
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Isn't T Mobile a GSM carrier? What would they have to do with WCDMA?

WCDMA (UMTS) is the 3rd generation standard in the GSM family. If you have 3G or HSPA+ labeled as 4G, and you are on a GSM carrier, you are using WCDMA. Confusingly, CDMA carriers like Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular, do not use WCDMA at all.

Just wanted to say I called retentions regarding this issue today and there was nothing they could do for me save telling me my etf and how to port my number to srpint. should I call back and try to get a diff. answer from another agent?
I also offered to upgrade my data to the 10gb if they could change my plan in another way (less mins) and keep it the same price. no dice.

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Just wanted to say I called retentions regarding this issue today and there was nothing they could do for me save telling me my etf and how to port my number to srpint. should I call back and try to get a diff. answer from another agent?
I also offered to upgrade my data to the 10gb if they could change my plan in another way (less mins) and keep it the same price. no dice.
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Keep trying. Someone will work with you. or threaten to cancel and go to sprint.

1SiK1500 said:
threaten to cancel and go to sprint.
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I actually did this but it didn't seem to make much difference. I will try again tomorrow!

fyi, when you're throttled, you keep normal icons/connections but are throttled to 100kbps. NOT 2g, not 3g but max of 100 kbps regardless your connection type (can still say 4g, it's just throttled).
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They throttle you down to about 2g. I upgraded to 5gb before heading out on my honeymoon. Took about 300 pics on my phone and synced them to drop box, g+ Made it home with data to spare
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Jaxidian said:
fyi, when you're throttled, you keep normal icons/connections but are throttled to 100kbps. NOT 2g, not 3g but max of 100 kbps regardless your connection type (can still say 4g, it's just throttled).
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This is the case. I'm still on HSPA+, but I hit my limit yesterday, and now I'm getting about 60kb/s down on speedtest. Unfortunately, that I've been able to find, most methods of bypassing the throttle limit no longer work, which is rather annoying, as I still have a week and a half before my billing cycle resets and 60k is too slow to stream music comfortably.

From someone who works for them..in communications they tell us it's a 2.5G speed that it is being slowed down to. Though these speeds are not always real life, based on where you live, how many many people are near and using the same tower etc etc. No one's experience will always be the same. Edge can sometimes be okay to use or it can be a pain.
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T Mobile reception sucks here in Kansas City, and when you are on the move really. When I got throttled, I was getting 2g speeds, and it was horrible. I couldn't use any app that used data.
T Mobile only has fast 3g in some cases, I would not consider their '4g' 4g because it was not very fast in the first place.
I would not recommend them.

how's T-mobile connection in Chicago Area?

Thinking about switching to T-mobile in the SW Suburbs of Chicago; I'm on wifi most of the time, so data speed isnt important to me, but, we MUST have good phone call quality in our house.
Is this an issue for anyone in chicago land, or, if we get a phone that is "wifi capable", and we have a fast,strong, wifi network in our house, does this become a non issue?
We had ATT, which was no problem in the house, and recently switched to Sprint, with the hopes of a stong "Spark Network" here; well, one of our phones in Spark compatible, and works fine, but the other 2 phones are HTC One's, not spark "compatible", and have poor phone call quality and reception in the house. We are waiting on an AirRave front Sprint, but, if that doesnt work, we're ready to go to T-Mobile..
Sorry for this weird question here, but, I trust my buds on XDA to give a real report on stuff like this, NOT the people from T-Mobile
Thanks!:good:

Sorry not from Chicago.
But I can say if you get a phone that can do wifi-calling (most new T-mobile branded phone should do this), then you wouldn't have any problem at all with phone calls.

thanks, thats what I have heard now from all tmobile users..hard to believe every carrier doesnt offer wifi calling.
It would eliminate all complaints about bad call quality.

Yes, my phone had LTE connection while on my visit to Chicago(downtown) in Nov 2013.

Signal strength may change just within few blocks radius. Personally in Long Island I can go from full signal with great lte connection to one bar and crawling lte within quarter of the mile. This is reason why I limit my Note to use 4g network or it is constantly looking for lte and kills battery very fast.
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You'll have 4G or LTE pretty much anywhere in Chicagoland
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You should check out the coverage maps add complied by Open Signal and Sensorly.
It shows user collected data in your area showing actual user device reception and speed.
FYI. Don't get me wrong, I love wifi calling. It is *great* in a lot of situations. I've had people ask how I am getting texts and getting calls in the bowels of large buildings when they have no service. Love it.
One limitation of the service is that if you leave the wifi coverage area you will obviously lose connection to the wifi calling. Not a big deal if you pop back onto the cell network. UNLESS you are on a phone call. Wifi calling can not hand off your active call to a cell tower (yet). You will always drop the call. Not usually the end of the world, but something to understand going into the deal. For this reason I have my wifi calling preferences set to cell network preferred. That way as long as I have signal I can talk via tower, if signal drops it pops into wifi calling.
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You should check out the coverage maps add complied by Open Signal and Sensorly.
It shows user collected data in your area showing actual user device reception and speed.
FYI. Don't get me wrong, I love wifi calling. It is *great* in a lot of situations. I've had people ask how I am getting texts and getting calls in the bowels of large buildings when they have no service. Love it.
One limitation of the service is that if you leave the wifi coverage area you will obviously lose connection to the wifi calling. Not a big deal if you pop back onto the cell network. UNLESS you are on a phone call. Wifi calling can not hand off your active call to a cell tower (yet). You will always drop the call. Not usually the end of the world, but something to understand going into the deal. For this reason I have my wifi calling preferences set to cell network preferred. That way as long as I have signal I can talk via tower, if signal drops it pops into wifi calling.
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thanks, that is a GREAT tip!!:good::good:

Question

Been thinking of leaving Verizon for T-mobile,how is the coverage.
customer service etc.

Verizons network is 99% lte even if it is slow lte since it was one of the first carriers to have it, days of pulling 60mbps are gone. TMO i prefer because it is less congested so you will pull faster speeds in lte zones and get lower ping. I had a bf who uses tmobiles lte as his home wifi and latency was no issue in mmos whereas in same spot with verizon where I pulled 60/20 with a htc thunderbolt two years ago.... i get 12/4.
Switching also gets you access to free international data & apps like spotify dont use your plan and all plans are unlimited data its just 4G speed caps... 0 overages ever. Magenta plans on converting entire 3g market into lte by end of year I heard so its a solid move. I would do it honestly I have both right now due to parents making me stay on it and tmobile has vastly improved on a monthly basis almost here. If you had asked this two years ago ide of said stay on big red but its not the case anymore.

nxneko said:
Verizons network is 99% lte even if it is slow lte since it was one of the first carriers to have it, days of pulling 60mbps are gone. TMO i prefer because it is less congested so you will pull faster speeds in lte zones and get lower ping. I had a bf who uses tmobiles lte as his home wifi and latency was no issue in mmos whereas in same spot with verizon where I pulled 60/20 with a htc thunderbolt two years ago.... i get 12/4.
Switching also gets you access to free international data & apps like spotify dont use your plan and all plans are unlimited data its just 4G speed caps... 0 overages ever. Magenta plans on converting entire 3g market into lte by end of year I heard so its a solid move. I would do it honestly I have both right now due to parents making me stay on it and tmobile has vastly improved on a monthly basis almost here. If you had asked this two years ago ide of said stay on big red but its not the case anymore.
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Reason i asked was Facebook was magically eating data to the tune of 3 gb plus ate all my verizon data.

unless you travel check you coverage or just try tmobile for 7 days check out the program
you be out of contract

If you have T-Mobile coverage where you live then go for it. Do you have any friends with T-Mobile? If so, ask them to come over and see how the network is. I left VZW for T-Mobile but where I live I have great coverage for both companies.
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tmobile
verizon in same spot
pick your poison
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Been thinking of leaving Verizon for T-mobile,how is the coverage.
customer service etc.
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service and customer service is top ship. I've been with TMO for 12 yrs or so. Depends on the area you are in .. With that you will have to do the research. Customer svc is great with them. I switched to VZ because i moved to an area where tmo had 1 tower and i could not get a signal at work. I've since switched back and found that the lack in coverage, is great compared to the price difference. I'm paying for 5 phones with TMO what i was paying with VZ. At home i'm on wifi. out in town i get 4g. I live just outside of a 4g area probably 2 miles, so when i'm out and about I get great coverage, when i'm at home, i'm on wifi. My TMO 4g speeds are way better then my wifi at the moment with WOW but i'll wait for them to finish their upgrades as TMO just started expanding the network to rural areas outside of urban cities. For me is was price over performance and VZ completely screwed me over with the launch of the G2 that had flaws, they knew about it, and would not let me trade the phone in. Sorry, but telling me wait a month for the update to use my phone was not acceptable. I'm now willingly using my wifi instead of 4g.

M2 802L LTE in USA on Cricket (AT&T)?

Hello fellow members,
I was wondering if anyone could verify this for me.
I see that the 802L possibly might achieve LTE in the US has anyone had any experiences at all?
WillMyPhoneWork.net says that it may work, just looking to see if anyone can confirm.
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huawei mediapad m2-802l
N166A LOG1K said:
Hello fellow members,
I was wondering if anyone could verify this for me.
I see that the 802L possibly might achieve LTE in the US has anyone had any experiences at all?
WillMyPhoneWork.net says that it may work, just looking to see if anyone can confirm.
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It does achieve LTE speeds on both USA ATT and Tmobile. You just need to set the APN in the settings. It is just as fast as my Galaxy Note 4 on Tmobile. If anyone is wondering, YES, It works great with voice calls. I love the reaction people give me when I whip out an 8 inch brick and start holding it to my head.

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It does achieve LTE speeds on both USA ATT and Tmobile. You just need to set the APN in the settings. It is just as fast as my Galaxy Note 4 on Tmobile. If anyone is wondering, YES, It works great with voice calls. I love the reaction people give me when I whip out an 8 inch brick and start holding it to my head.
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Can you attach a screen shot where it actually say LTE on the top bar please?

Stupid double post

The picture from the seller does not show an earpiece on the top of the screen of the Huawei 802L. Can you provide a picture of your phablet? thanks...

I have the 802l. And have been using in okc metro on tmo for most of 2016. Lte/voice/data works flawlessly and gets same rates as note 3. 8 core cpu so overall experience is great. Speaker outputs on top and bottom sides so when using dialer top side speaker is activated at earpiece rate. Bluetooth or wired headset is strongly advised to cut back on the number of people asking if its really a phone. No band 19 coverage but personal research has lead me to believe this band is negligible. I ordered from eBay seller ~$320 shipped. From Taipei Taiwan to my okc door in less than 24 hours. no joke.

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I have the 802l. And have been using in okc metro on tmo for most of 2016. Lte/voice/data works flawlessly and gets same rates as note 3. 8 core cpu so overall experience is great. Speaker outputs on top and bottom sides so when using dialer top side speaker is activated at earpiece rate. Bluetooth or wired headset is strongly advised to cut back on the number of people asking if its really a phone. No band 19 coverage but personal research has lead me to believe this band is negligible. I ordered from eBay seller ~$320 shipped. From Taipei Taiwan to my okc door in less than 24 hours. no joke.
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Can you please help me with this?
1. Did you end up buying the standard (2GB) model or the Premium (3GB) one? If it's the premium one, can you point me to the right seller?
2. How do you like the cameras? I have an X2 which has better spec'd cameras
3. How is the battery life? My X2 has a larger battery (5000 mAh) so I'm not sure how this one would fare in comparison.
THANK YOU

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Can you please help me with this?
1. Did you end up buying the standard (2GB) model or the Premium (3GB) one? If it's the premium one, can you point me to the right seller?
2. How do you like the cameras? I have an X2 which has better spec'd cameras
3. How is the battery life? My X2 has a larger battery (5000 mAh) so I'm not sure how this one would fare in comparison.
THANK YOU
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I got the 2gb from love.taiwan.
Cameras are average for a mobile imo. I dont do much shooting.
Battery is better than average for a phablet but dont expect same results. I plug in if im gonna watch a video or when I can. I wanted the x2 but went with m2 because of network/band coverage.
CORRECTION* its not b19 coverage issue but another. Make sure you double check band coverage device/service provider. Im lacking coverage on one band but ive never had speed or lte or 3g problems. I use frequencycheck.com

aaron73072 said:
I got the 2gb from love.taiwan.
Cameras are average for a mobile imo. I dont do much shooting.
Battery is better than average for a phablet but dont expect same results. I plug in if im gonna watch a video or when I can. I wanted the x2 but went with m2 because of network/band coverage.
CORRECTION* its not b19 coverage issue but another. Make sure you double check band coverage device/service provider. Im lacking coverage on one band but ive never had speed or lte or 3g problems. I use frequencycheck.com
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Hi, I'm confused about your last comment.
I did try the 802L on ATT here near Atlanta but did not see LTE working....(??) I'm confused as to what you meant about "another issue." Thanks! (perhaps my APN settings weren't right, but I'm not sure. Frequencycheck.com shows it lacking some support for the right bands.
Thanks!

I personally can confirm the M2-802L works on full LTE with T-Mobile USA.
From what I can tell, the only US LTE bands that work on this phone is B2, and B4.

I've been using the 802l for about a month now on Ting's GSM network. Using Ting's GSM APN settings to the letter I routinely get download speeds faster than on my Mediapad X2 702l on the same network in the same locations. Note that my 802l has never said "LTE" on the top bar; it shows a "4G" icon for speeds above HSPA+. My X2 702l says "H+" (HSPA+) at best, never "4G" (the X2 is known not to get U.S. LTE bands).
Also, voice calls work great on the 802l. When calling without Bluetooth the sound comes out of the top speaker but is loud enough for most conversations.