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Lack of footy management games

It seems that the desire has the ability to run really decent games and yet football management games especially, are few and far between. There seems to be a demand for them but there just are not any decent ones out there. Ive tried MYFC, and RF2009 Manager but they are quite weak. The Android market has the potential to be as big, if not bigger than Apple but the choice of games in select areas are virtually non existent. I know everyone does not want the same thing but while I enjoy games that are arcade play, the simulation side is selective to say the least. Taking away a decent football management game, what about a horse racing game - nothing, a decent flight sim game - nothing. I know at the end of the day the Desire is a phone, but while cartoony games are enjoyable, some of us like something more in depth. It's just frustrating at the moment and I do appreciate there are developers working hard to bring us games and we, as an Android community, are grateful. I would just like to see a bit more for us strategists Take nothing away though, I think the Desire is an amazing phone and the market is growing at a tremdous speed so its all looking good.
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You may be pleased to know that on the flight simulator front, x-plane for Android is on the verge of being released.
I have e-mailed the developer but cannot pin them to an exact release date but video demos of this are readily available if you google it.
It looks AWESOME!!

Thanks bobsie41, that's what I'm talking about. Showing the phone off to what it can play both visually and in depth. It really looks amazing, can't wait for that to be released If you can show me a football management game in that depth of capacity then I will be happy
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im an SGS user but im in the camp of wanting a decent manager game for android, i would love somthing like an old CM game (i.e. 01/02) to be playable with a decent update.
ive been trying to find old ps1 games to run on psx4droid but the text on psx4droid always seems to be an issue so i cant get any of them to run well.
i think ill look into GBA and even Genesis/Snes if i have to just to pass the wait until we get somthing decent.

gtanny said:
im an SGS user but im in the camp of wanting a decent manager game for android, i would love somthing like an old CM game (i.e. 01/02) to be playable with a decent update.
ive been trying to find old ps1 games to run on psx4droid but the text on psx4droid always seems to be an issue so i cant get any of them to run well.
i think ill look into GBA and even Genesis/Snes if i have to just to pass the wait until we get somthing decent.
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Imho forget psx4droid , i have tried to contact the dev to see if he EVER plans to update the app, and got nothing..

chris2busy said:
Imho forget psx4droid , i have tried to contact the dev to see if he EVER plans to update the app, and got nothing..
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the developer of psx4droid ran off with our money to make iphone games, he wont be back

AndroHero said:
the developer of psx4droid ran off with our money to make iphone games, he wont be back
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Gather yer torches and shovels i says! After them!

chris2busy said:
Gather yer torches and shovels i says! After them!
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he's a member of xda too ya know

AndroHero said:
he's a member of xda too ya know
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I was not aware of that i could contact him that way then!or at least try :S

Microsoft Annouces 14 new games for Xbox live and I want to shoot myself in the face.

Oher than the non live titles made by independant developers I am starting to think this phone will never make it past the casual gaming.
“Beards & Beaks: Cave Area”
“Bug Village”
“Burn the Rope”
“Chickens Can’t Fly”
“Collapse!”
“Gravity Guy”
“Farm Frenzy 2”
“Fight Game Rivals”
“IonballEX”
“Kinectimals Mobile”
“Mush” .
“Orbital”
“TextTwist 2”
“Toy Soldiers Boot Camp”
Seriously...

a phone is perfect for casual gaming. I did buy "The Harvest" and while it was excellent it wasn;'t nearly as enjoyable for quick plays when you have free time etc

Halo. Forza 4 (perfect for WP7, even downloading "ghost" cars to race against to climb the leaderboards). MIA. Missed opportunity.

Ya Know when they were hyping up "The Harvest" and talking about how games like this were an display of what windows mobile could do I should have known it was a trap.

L337Ware said:
Oher than the non live titles made by independant developers I am starting to think this phone will never make it past the casual gaming.
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People use phones for non-casual gaming?

I want Emigmo 2....I wish they would release that for WP7.... I beat Emigmo 3 times now (all 50 levels).

If you were expecting hardcore gaming on a phone, then, well... I don't know what to say.
Shoulda bought an Xbox instead?

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If you were expecting hardcore gaming on a phone, then, well... I don't know what to say.
Shoulda bought an Xbox instead?
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Yeah I mean, I kind of agree with that. I have a 360 and consider myself to be a hardcore gamer and I'm just satisfied knowing that if I buy these games I'll get achievements with them.

dreamcaster012 said:
Yeah I mean, I kind of agree with that. I have a 360 and consider myself to be a hardcore gamer and I'm just satisfied knowing that if I buy these games I'll get achievements with them.
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Yea, I agree....

Too bad, Microsoft could think in the customers. That games would be good for childrens, but every children haven't got mobile phone

L337Ware said:
Oher than the non live titles made by independant developers I am starting to think this phone will never make it past the casual gaming.
“Beards & Beaks: Cave Area”
“Bug Village”
“Burn the Rope”
“Chickens Can’t Fly”
“Collapse!”
“Gravity Guy”
“Farm Frenzy 2”
“Fight Game Rivals”
“IonballEX”
“Kinectimals Mobile”
“Mush” .
“Orbital”
“TextTwist 2”
“Toy Soldiers Boot Camp”
Seriously...
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This just looks like some of the new titles announced at the Gamescom event so i wouldnt take it as the difinitive list, specially seeing as there were over 60+ new XBL games for WP7 announced at the event. http://www.bestwp7games.com/
Maybe MS still need to attract the attention of the major gamehouses that furnish the other platforms with the titles i think you would like to see. Once the mango update is officially released and revenue begins to flow i'm sure the better titles will come.
Have patience though, MS has the Xbox platform and all of the software contacts it needs to make this work, they wouldnt purposefully make WP7 crappy imho.
In the meantime there are some top titles in the marketplace already (sonic, harvest, PES etc...) and i'm sooo looking forward to Toy Soldiers.
Regards,
Creamy

I think we'd all be better off in this forum if posters of topics like this did, indeed, shoot themselves in the face.

efjay said:
Halo. Forza 4 (perfect for WP7, even downloading "ghost" cars to race against to climb the leaderboards). MIA. Missed opportunity.
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Forza 4 Maybe, but how the hell you gonna play Halo on a phone? It's hard enough on the console.

Meh, on the phone I want games that I can take up and play for a few minues when I'm waiting for a bus or something like that, games that is fast to get into and that I can quit anytime.
For hardcore gaming a have a PC.

What about games like call of duty and black oops? GTA auto theft..?
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Purple11 said:
What about games like call of duty and black oops? GTA auto theft..?
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Wow! I think the demands are getting crazy

Purple11 said:
What about games like call of duty and black oops? GTA auto theft..?
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You're joking right? You want to play these on a phone? The only hardcore game I would try on a phone is a RTS. That said, even on the casual front WP7 is doing poorly. The OS was announced 18 months ago and released 10 months ago and Xbox Live is still a joke. They should have just called it Games for WP and added the Live name in a year or two because as it is now it's doing the brand a disservice.
Oh by the way, there's no game release next week.
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enyaj said:
Wow! I think the demands are getting crazy
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You gotta be kidding me.. such games are already their for android.. people say that: 'with an android phone with you, you dont need to buy those sony handhelds.. '
here is one example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaMNMBfgr8&feature=fvsr
I am just giving it more time till mango .. if we continue to see current list of sub-par games like 'tic tac toe' and 'tap here to kill an ant and get achievements'.. than unfortunately i will make that switch by June. Because it is not an enterprise phone either, so if it cant help me in work than at least compensate that by bringing in serious entertainment.

The OP has a valid gripe. The horsepower is there and the talent is there. These franchises can translate to the phone. I play FIFA and NBA Jam and FPS games on my iPod touch and iphone. Why can't my Focus do the same?
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[Q] Japanese Offcial PLAY Games- Any way to get them?

I came across this page the other day,
Translated:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ericsson.co.jp/product/docomo/so-01d/special/
Original:
http://www.sonyericsson.co.jp/product/docomo/so-01d/special/
There are a couple of games that look awesome like the Philosoma game. But it seems they are only photos and no direct links to the games. Anyone know of a way to get these games? Do I need to make my phone think its a japanese PLAY? And if so how would I go about doing that. I am on Verixion R800x.

I'm pretty sure there's a way, but really, do you want to learn Japanese to play them?

Its Sonic Advance. I dont think it would require a lot of knowledge in Japanese. I played games all the time with my friends in China where we played house of the dead (in an arcade) and they had no idea what the game was saying as they dont know english too well but they could still play the game.

jgregoryj1 said:
Its Sonic Advance. I dont think it would require a lot of knowledge in Japanese. I played games all the time with my friends in China where we played house of the dead (in an arcade) and they had no idea what the game was saying as they dont know english too well but they could still play the game.
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Why not just use a GBA emulator?

Yeah I guess I could just use an emulater. I was really interested in a couple of other games that are not available in the US. The Sonic would be nice but it was definately not the one i was most intersted in trying.

Are they PS One games? If so there is a good chance you could use PSXperia to convert them from a cd image to be playable in the native emulator.
Other option if they are on the PS Store for Japan then you would need a japanease PSN account and if you don't have a credit card to be accepted by PSN Japan you could try buying pre-paid PSN card for Japan on ebay.
Hope it helps

jgregoryj1 said:
Yeah I guess I could just use an emulater. I was really interested in a couple of other games that are not available in the US. The Sonic would be nice but it was definately not the one i was most intersted in trying.
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Yeah i'm waiting for Devil May Cry 4 myself
ps3taker said:
Are they PS One games?
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No, Sonic is a GBA port, Devil May Cry 4 is the iOS version, the rest I believe are new mobile games

As far as i remember most of these games shown in the first post are psone,not to say all of them,try googling the name of games and they will pop up as psx .
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There are many old school JRPG and other text heavy games in that list which never saw the light outside of Japan originally. I doubt they will translate them for us.

BAD MOVE: Sony without Ericson!?

a guess it is, I have a Xperia Pro, it is a very modded and tweaked ICS phone, while my mate having a Xperia Arc (GB not modded, and I personally just tweaked it a little using Pimp my Rom)
and GB is soo much better! we're having same antutu at 4800+ @1GH plus great camera focus, a noticeably great pictures with bravia engine and aint really know if Bravia Engine in my device is working, plus when were playing games on his arc, aint got lags (after i tweaked it) damnit, maybe its about Ericson's 10 years of experience in the industry
well, unfornutely Sony were really forced to do a "stake buying" from Ericson, according to wikipedia.org, for which the Sony Ericson has some "money" problems despite of great sales ( my mom used to buy me sony ericson products, and my mom was not that techie, she's just know that Sony Ericson are way better against other mobile brands)
but sony must've taken ericson's developers so that the Solid Rock GB must have been now Solid Rock ICS

It's not because Ericsson programers were better its just that Arc is too old and weak for ICS, also updating old devices is not profitable for phone manufacturers. I'm sure that even if Sony Ericsson was still with us ICS would be as ****ty as it is right now.

RadarZgin said:
a guess it is, I have a Xperia Pro, it is a very modded and tweaked ICS phone, while my mate having a Xperia Arc (GB not modded, and I personally just tweaked it a little using Pimp my Rom)
and GB is soo much better! we're having same antutu at 4800+ @1GH plus great camera focus, a noticeably great pictures with bravia engine and aint really know if Bravia Engine in my device is working, plus when were playing games on his arc, aint got lags (after i tweaked it) damnit, maybe its about Ericson's 10 years of experience in the industry
well, unfornutely Sony were really forced to do a "stake buying" from Ericson, according to wikipedia.org, for which the Sony Ericson has some "money" problems despite of great sales ( my mom used to buy me sony ericson products, and my mom was not that techie, she's just know that Sony Ericson are way better against other mobile brands)
but sony must've taken ericson's developers so that the Solid Rock GB must have been now Solid Rock ICS
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lol. I have never seen such a funny, thoughtless thread in XDA before.
Firstly, those developers who made your Gingerbread are the same people who made your ICS. It's clearly stated that your phone might under perform due to increased specification of ICS. I can guarantee my Xperia Ion is as smooth as when it had Gingerbread. Secondly, Sony sold more phones than Sony Ericsson.
And finally, it's Sony Ericsson not Ericson. LOL.

And if you hate ICS so much then you can downgrade to GB easily.

pypcier said:
It's not because Ericsson programers were better its just that Arc is too old and weak for ICS, also updating old devices is not profitable for phone manufacturers. I'm sure that even if Sony Ericsson was still with us ICS would be as ****ty as it is right now.
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i think its not about how old or how "low end" the device is, look at the first android device, it can run on jellybean, i think u see the point
lee480 said:
lol. I have never seen such a funny, thoughtless thread in XDA before.
Firstly, those developers who made your Gingerbread are the same people who made your ICS. It's clearly stated that your phone might under perform due to increased specification of ICS. I can guarantee my Xperia Ion is as smooth as when it had Gingerbread. Secondly, Sony sold more phones than Sony Ericsson.
And finally, it's Sony Ericsson not Ericson. LOL.
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about the developers, i think its not the same, Ericson is a swedish company, based in americas, Sony Mobile is based on tokyo right now, having japanese developers, yeah i knew its funny, and very thoughtless that u took time to reply in this thread, u r basically kiddin me, do some research before u reply, u have google it front of your brain.
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And if you hate ICS so much then you can downgrade to GB easily.
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i love ICS dude!

i think its not about how old or how "low end" the device is, look at the first android device, it can run on jellybean, i think u see the point
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If you are talking about G1 then this point is retarded because JB was ported to this device only to show that its possible. It runs at 5fps and is unusable. Seriously you think that if my microwave can boot JB then Arc is capable of running ICS smoothly? It doesn't make any sense.
about the developers, i think its not the same, Ericson is a swedish company, based in americas, Sony Mobile is based on tokyo right now, having japanese developers, yeah i knew its funny, and very thoughtless that u took time to reply in this thread, u r basically kiddin me, do some research before u reply, u have google it front of your brain.
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You say this guy is stupid but you are the one who talks bull****. **** I'm mad.

pypcier said:
If you are talking about G1 then this point is retarded because JB was ported to this device only to show that its possible. It runs at 5fps and is unusable. Seriously you think that if my microwave can boot JB then Arc is capable of running ICS smoothly? It doesn't make any sense. You say this guy is stupid but you are the one who talks bull****. **** I'm mad.
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soo u were saying that ur microwave runs on android?
i knew it was retarded, "The ROM runs extremely smooth and is close to what the actual official update will be like, according to YouMobile.org"
it runs smoothly and UNUSABLE )
aint saying the guy is stupid , plus aint want pillow fights with u guys, so what part of my reply is bull****? he was right, i was thoughtless and funny i guess, i just wanna share my thought

soo u were saying that ur microwave runs on android?
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That would be cool ; D
i knew it was retarded, "The ROM runs extremely smooth and is close to what the actual official update will be like, according to YouMobile.org"
it runs smoothly and UNUSABLE )
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Well last time I've checked there was a You Tube video of a guy that managed to boot 4.1.2 on G1 and it was laggy as hell so I don't believe that a device with 192MB of RAM and 500MHz CPU is able to run JB smoothly. Clean, debloated CM10 takes 300MB of my RAM to run. Guys from YouMobile.org should start a site about gardening because apparently they don't know **** about phones.

RadarZgin said:
i think its not about how old or how "low end" the device is, look at the first android device, it can run on jellybean, i think u see the point
about the developers, i think its not the same, Ericson is a swedish company, based in americas, Sony Mobile is based on tokyo right now, having japanese developers, yeah i knew its funny, and very thoughtless that u took time to reply in this thread, u r basically kiddin me, do some research before u reply, u have google it front of your brain.
i love ICS dude!
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I think you should use your freaking brains before attacking.
Sony Mobile software development department remains at Sweden. Here's the irony, you said I should research, and I did and the most funny part? You are 100% factually incorrect.
http://japandailypress.com/sony-considering-job-cuts-at-sweden-plant-239971
Please use your brains before using your mouse. And you lost your credibility already. Lol. That's funny.

SONY IS NOW 3rd phone manifacture ,only more selled pohnes are samsung and apple , its same with all phones , they bring only 1 update , or no updates to never android verzion ....

ROFL.. :laugh:

lee480 said:
I think you should use your freaking brains before attacking.
Sony Mobile software development department remains at Sweden. Here's the irony, you said I should research, and I did and the most funny part? You are 100% factually incorrect.
http://japandailypress.com/sony-considering-job-cuts-at-sweden-plant-239971
Please use your brains before using your mouse. And you lost your credibility already. Lol. That's funny.
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WOW!
anyway, heard the name Kunimasa Suzuki? CEO of Sony Mobile? cum`n dude, of course u misinterpret the word "JAPANESE" as All the developers are all japanese, they may have different nationalities of Coders/Programmers, what im saying is, the "HEAD" the one that makes the planning! the execution on how everything will be done, not really the "coders" or the literal programmers.
u know im a Fan of Sony/Xperia, and im a die hard fan, i researched everything on what really happened
Sony has 2 or more developments centers, the one is based on tokyo, the one is based on Lund, Sweden, developments are not just for xperia, its for all Sony Products, swedish coders are not that good, compare to russia, india, united states, ofcourse Sony wants better! so they could hire any nationality they want, japanese were good, but they're having hard time programming cuz they have a different software development programs and its in japanese, u get the point?
one thing, u want to fight? im not into fighting, fighting is not that cool for me plus please dont argue, if u really wanna argue, not on me, i saw your other post on other threads some of them are in "OFFENSIVE" mode, i think u get the point.

RadarZgin said:
WOW!
anyway, heard the name Kunimasa Suzuki? CEO of Sony Mobile? cum`n dude, of course u misinterpret the word "JAPANESE" as All the developers are all japanese, they may have different nationalities of Coders/Programmers, what im saying is, the "HEAD" the one that makes the planning! the execution on how everything will be done, not really the "coders" or the literal programmers.
u know im a Fan of Sony/Xperia, and im a die hard fan, i researched everything on what really happened
Sony has 2 or more developments centers, the one is based on tokyo, the one is based on Lund, Sweden, developments are not just for xperia, its for all Sony Products, swedish coders are not that good, compare to russia, india, united states, ofcourse Sony wants better! so they could hire any nationality they want, japanese were good, but they're having hard time programming cuz they have a different software development programs and its in japanese, u get the point?
one thing, u want to fight? im not into fighting, fighting is not that cool for me plus please dont argue, if u really wanna argue, not on me, i saw your other post on other threads some of them are in "OFFENSIVE" mode, i think u get the point.
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Nope, do not wish to fight you.
I'm still stand by my words. Sony Mobile's software team is still the same. Though that might be some structural changes, the bulk of it remains the same. So what Sony Mobile's CEO is a Japanese? Is he the one programming? It's clearly stated that Sony Mobile's software development team remains at Sweden. It's awkward and not correct to fire the whole team and re hire another group.
Cheers!
Edit: btw, it is not that Sony software suck, simply, Xperia Arc is too weak to handle ICS. My Xperia Ion runs it smoother than a melted ice cream.

lee480 said:
Nope, do not wish to fight you.
I'm still stand by my words. Sony Mobile's software team is still the same. Though that might be some structural changes, the bulk of it remains the same. So what Sony Mobile's CEO is a Japanese? Is he the one programming? It's clearly stated that Sony Mobile's software development team remains at Sweden. It's awkward and not correct to fire the whole team and re hire another group.
Cheers!
Edit: btw, it is not that Sony software suck, simply, Xperia Arc is too weak to handle ICS. My Xperia Ion runs it smoother than a melted ice cream.
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"Xperia Arc is too weak to handle ICS" aw! sorry for Xperia Arc users
"So what Sony Mobile's CEO is a Japanese? Is he the one programming? It's clearly stated that Sony Mobile's software development team remains at Sweden" aw! sorry japanese people
"It's awkward and not correct to fire the whole team and re hire another group" *facepalm*

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"Xperia Arc is too weak to handle ICS" aw! sorry for Xperia Arc users
"So what Sony Mobile's CEO is a Japanese? Is he the one programming? It's clearly stated that Sony Mobile's software development team remains at Sweden" aw! sorry japanese people
"It's awkward and not correct to fire the whole team and re hire another group" *facepalm*
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LOL Your responses are purely weak and politically incorrect.
I said Sony Mobile CEO do not directly control and you said Japanese people are sad. Response simply don't make sense. Sorry. I'm going to disappear from this thread. Till the time is right.

Minecraft PE

Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
I finally have a believable answer from them.
Unfortunately there are no plans to make Minecraft compatible with the Shield controls for the time being,
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chevyowner said:
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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Wow, I knew it didn't work (I already own Minecraft PE) but I'm shocked they're so rude about it...

chevyowner said:
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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How unbelievably rude. The one game on the market that I would pay $6.99 for today and they go about treating one of their potential customers/new markets with crassness.

chevyowner said:
Currently Minecraft PE does not support the SHIELD controls, so do not buy it as of right now.
Rant on Mojang
What really bugs me is when i tried to suggest to the Developers to add support I was told to "go elsewhere" or that "we don't accept suggestions"
I know I will never buy a game developed by Mojang again.
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where did you ask this? Because I have never heard of mojang responding in that way, only the minecraft forums who are not representatives of mojang.
Minecraft PE supports the XPeria play controls and the touch controls only. No idea why its only the xperia which gets hardware control. There are apps for rooted devices to map hardware controls to touch, perhaps one of those may work with the shield and minecraft. There might even be some way of mapping shield buttons to the xperia buttons and fooling minecraft into using them, but that is something I am more doubtful of.

I emailed mojang directly.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
where did you ask this? Because I have never heard of mojang responding in that way, only the minecraft forums who are not representatives of mojang.
Minecraft PE supports the XPeria play controls and the touch controls only. No idea why its only the xperia which gets hardware control. There are apps for rooted devices to map hardware controls to touch, perhaps one of those may work with the shield and minecraft. There might even be some way of mapping shield buttons to the xperia buttons and fooling minecraft into using them, but that is something I am more doubtful of.
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Actually, yes to both of those. There is an app that I have confirmed works for the shield in such a way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
It allows physical control to touchscreen emulation, or xperia play emulation, and various other forms of emulation.
THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT
If you need root, visit this link: (note: currently rooting on the nvidia shield requires unlocking the bootloader, and that voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400029
I have tested this app to be working on final fantasy dimensions with the physical control to touch screen emulation, and it works great. The right stick drifts a bit though, and i believe that is a side effect of the right stick acting as a virtual mouse sometimes but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Hope this helps.

biothundernxt said:
Actually, yes to both of those. There is an app that I have confirmed works for the shield in such a way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
It allows physical control to touchscreen emulation, or xperia play emulation, and various other forms of emulation.
THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT
If you need root, visit this link: (note: currently rooting on the nvidia shield requires unlocking the bootloader, and that voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400029
I have tested this app to be working on final fantasy dimensions with the physical control to touch screen emulation, and it works great. The right stick drifts a bit though, and i believe that is a side effect of the right stick acting as a virtual mouse sometimes but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Hope this helps.
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This is why I normally avoid paid apps/games on play store like the plague...App A says "hardware controls supported" so person buys app a, and runs it to find out that, he needs to spend even more money on app b to use the hardware controls in app a.
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PLus the fact that Minecraft PE is very misleading about cross platform play, and the devs have only been dicks to me about the problems.

chevyowner said:
This is why I normally avoid paid apps/games on play store like the plague...App A says "hardware controls supported" so person buys app a, and runs it to find out that, he needs to spend even more money on app b to use the hardware controls in app a.
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PLus the fact that Minecraft PE is very misleading about cross platform play, and the devs have only been dicks to me about the problems.
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: / you know its that kind of attitude that I relieve is responsible for the lack of decent games on android. There are a few but most of them cost money. And if a game is good, I willing to put down few bucks. Those free games are never really free anyway. They are pay to win.
Sorry for the rant, but I felt that I needed to voice my opinion .
And in my experience, devs are pretty good at integrating features that people ask for, particularly controlled support.
And what do you mean about mojang being misleading about mine craft pocket edition being cross platform?... That's the first I've heard of that.

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: / you know its that kind of attitude that I relieve is responsible for the lack of decent games on android. There are a few but most of them cost money. And if a game is good, I willing to put down few bucks. Those free games are never really free anyway. They are pay to win.
Sorry for the rant, but I felt that I needed to voice my opinion .
And in my experience, devs are pretty good at integrating features that people ask for, particularly controlled support.
And what do you mean about mojang being misleading about mine craft pocket edition being cross platform?... That's the first I've heard of that.
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I would not mind paying for a game if the developer stood by their game and actually helped the people who buy it with problems.
My comment about free games is that if you get a free game you need to expect no support or bad support, but if you pay for a game you should get decent support. I have never once gotten decent support for paid games on Google play, I have always gotten better support from free games.
And for cross-platform play setup a minecraft server on your desktop and connect to that from minecraft pe on your android device.
about the pay to win games there are also plenty of free games that are not pay to win.

chevyowner said:
I would not mind paying for a game if the developer stood by their game and actually helped the people who buy it with problems.
My comment about free games is that if you get a free game you need to expect no support or bad support, but if you pay for a game you should get decent support. I have never once gotten decent support for paid games on Google play, I have always gotten better support from free games.
And for cross-platform play setup a minecraft server on your desktop and connect to that from minecraft pe on your android device.
about the pay to win games there are also plenty of free games that are not pay to win.
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I believe you are mistaken. You can, in no way shape or form, play cross platform from minecraft pocket edition to pc, you can play cross platform between android and ipod/ipad. but that's about it. It wouldn't work anyway, pocket edition is missing blocks from the pc version, and pocket edition has blocks that the pc version does not have (ex: nether reactors)

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I believe you are mistaken. You can, in no way shape or form, play cross platform from minecraft pocket edition to pc, you can play cross platform between android and ipod/ipad. but that's about it. It wouldn't work anyway, pocket edition is missing blocks from the pc version, and pocket edition has blocks that the pc version does not have (ex: nether reactors)
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My main reason for posting is that the game controls are not supported.
My frustration is that the support staff are being very very rude to me for trying to get the controls supported.
I can live with out cross-platform play, but they will not even accept it as a suggestion.
If i knew I would have to spend even more money to use the controls I would not have payed for minecraft pe in the first place. there were other game i could have spent the same 7$ on that would have actually worked correctly.

chevyowner said:
My main reason for posting is that the game controls are not supported.
My frustration is that the support staff are being very very rude to me for trying to get the controls supported.
I can live with out cross-platform play, but they will not even accept it as a suggestion.
If i knew I would have to spend even more money to use the controls I would not have payed for minecraft pe in the first place. there were other game i could have spent the same 7$ on that would have actually worked correctly.
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Dude, I think you were asking in the wrong place. And you have to think about it this way:
The shield just came out so of course alot of things wont support the controller.
Im sure you weren't the first person to ask for shield support, so they are likely getting annoyed at people asking all the time.
They dont take suggestions because if they did, they would have to consider thousands of requests a day. Minecraft is way more popular than any of the other android games.
Where were you talking to them?

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Dude, I think you were asking in the wrong place. And you have to think about it this way:
The shield just came out so of course alot of things wont support the controller.
Im sure you weren't the first person to ask for shield support, so they are likely getting annoyed at people asking all the time.
They dont take suggestions because if they did, they would have to consider thousands of requests a day. Minecraft is way more popular than any of the other android games.
Where were you talking to them?
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E-Mailing their support team.
If they just been polite about the controls not working, and not been rude about it. If they also put in writing on the play store page that they do not accept suggestions, then there would be less problems there.

chevyowner said:
E-Mailing their support team.
If they just been polite about the controls not working, and not been rude about it. If they also put in writing on the play store page that they do not accept suggestions, then there would be less problems there.
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Hmm...
That is odd.
Usually they are pretty nice to people.
Anyway, sorry you had a bad experience.
I'm sure that in one way or another minecraft pocket edition will eventually get shield support.
In the mean time, It is likely that another app like the one i posted will become available for free.

Minecraft pocket edition has very little in common with minecraft on PC at the end of the day.
Pocket edition primarily consists of a C library. They then use a wrapper to expose the libraries features on android, iOS and raspbian independently. The raspbian version has even further modifications.
Minecraft on PC is java.
Ultimately pocket edition is just a glorified minecraft clone from the same developers. Shares no similarities code wise. Highly unlikely that it could ever link between the original java version, the PE version or the xbox version. They never claim anywhere that it can do that either.
They do claim that the hardware controls are for Xperia Play, they make no claim that it is compatible with any other gamepad.
The Shield controls and of course external gamepads are exposed to android as Human Interface Devices and you can use the standard android library to interface with them. The Xperia Play controls are not exposed as an HID for some reason, some of the regular buttons can be treated as an HID (with really weird mappings actually, think circle is mapped to Alt Key plus the android back button or something bizarre) but the thumb"sticks" cant and sony give an actual android lib which covers the regular buttons too, most developers just use that, including mojang for some reason.
Honestly, I think they need to get their fingers out of their asses and add HID input with proper assignments and joystick support. There are quite a few android devices out there with hardware keyboards etc,. Hell, sisters netbook came dual booted with android but has no touchscreen, that would be even more unplayable than the Shield for minecraft without 3rd party apps (and no, cant just switch over to windows and play MC there, without the optifine mod it gets 2 fps, with it gets 3, unplayable, increase java priority and the system cant keep up and you get input lag anyway, all drivers are updated)

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Minecraft pocket edition has very little in common with minecraft on PC at the end of the day.
Pocket edition primarily consists of a C library. They then use a wrapper to expose the libraries features on android, iOS and raspbian independently. The raspbian version has even further modifications.
Minecraft on PC is java.
Ultimately pocket edition is just a glorified minecraft clone from the same developers. Shares no similarities code wise. Highly unlikely that it could ever link between the original java version, the PE version or the xbox version. They never claim anywhere that it can do that either.
They do claim that the hardware controls are for Xperia Play, they make no claim that it is compatible with any other gamepad.
The Shield controls and of course external gamepads are exposed to android as Human Interface Devices and you can use the standard android library to interface with them. The Xperia Play controls are not exposed as an HID for some reason, some of the regular buttons can be treated as an HID (with really weird mappings actually, think circle is mapped to Alt Key plus the android back button or something bizarre) but the thumb"sticks" cant and sony give an actual android lib which covers the regular buttons too, most developers just use that, including mojang for some reason.
Honestly, I think they need to get their fingers out of their asses and add HID input with proper assignments and joystick support. There are quite a few android devices out there with hardware keyboards etc,. Hell, sisters netbook came dual booted with android but has no touchscreen, that would be even more unplayable than the Shield for minecraft without 3rd party apps (and no, cant just switch over to windows and play MC there, without the optifine mod it gets 2 fps, with it gets 3, unplayable, increase java priority and the system cant keep up and you get input lag anyway, all drivers are updated)
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In addition, C is much more ideal for games in general over Java. On a mobile device you need C so the OS can manage the memory better.
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I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^

Failrunner said:
I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^
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when you say he, who? because somehow I think your just trolling

Failrunner said:
I emailed mohjang about this and he emailed a pic of him taking a piss on the shield lifting two birds at the camera. He's awesome! ^_^
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If that is true how come you have not sold the photo to the press....If you had it would be major news....I call TROLL BS.

Lol, he thinks Mojang is a person.
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