I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
SlimJ87D said:
I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had some SMS lag on my stock 6.1 tmobile ROM, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore after I ran the fix to kill the "sent" notification. I can't find the cab for it just now, but you can find it easily in the forums here.
EDIT: I have radio 3.45.25.14, just fyi.
Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
SlimJ87D said:
Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just switched to Sense 2.5. I haven't been using it enough to experience this lag, but I noticed when in a text message and switching to landscape I freeze up on occasion. I have to make sure the text screen is fully loaded before sliding my keyboard.
Energy.RHOD500.21891.Leo_07.Feb.2010
I have the sms lag with official T-Mobile WMO 6.5 and Sense 2.1. When I exit a chat it hangs for 5-10 seconds everytime. I also get lags after sending SMS's. I didn't have this problem with stock 6.1.
What are the chances we get a hotfix from HTC/WMO?
I've had the sms lag with every Manila 2.5 ROM I've tried. Starts out nice and quick and then after about 3 days it's very laggy. Deleting text messages brings it back up to speed usually.
Otherwise no lag here, specs in signature.
SlimJ87D said:
I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's simple...the core code for the sms app is crap. Like Toleraen said, if you clear out your messages it's good for a few days...or less depending on the volume of text messages that you send/receive. I send/receive anywhere from 100 to 150 messages everyday so my tilt2 doesn't take long to start lagging. The problem is within the windows mobile code. The sms code has been crap since winmo 5. I've had the treo, mogul, tp and now the tilt2 and they're all the same...lag lag lag. That's why you still see the lag even in cooked roms. I don't believe any of the core code is re-written in any of the cooked roms (correct me if i'm wrong). The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag. Either way, you shouldn't need to constantly be clearing out your messages for your phone to work. With all the text messaging people do these days it needs to be a daily task, and who has time for that. Microsoft needs to re-write this app and make it more efficient. BTW, htc released a hotfix for this "sms freezing" for the tilt2 and I installed it on my tilt2 and it didn't make a bit of difference.
So, if anyone out there has actually found a real solution to this, please share.
BTW I have an att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom.
imeraz said:
The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time. I too need to retain a lengthy history of texts, I just use a solution that stores and backs them up off-device in a way I can quickly reference via a PC...any threads I'm not actively using get backed up (manually), singly or in batches, at least once a day. There's a number of tools that can do this, I personally use MyPhone and Jeyo Mobile Companion.
If your need to keep the messages also dictates that you need them on-device at all times, then you might want to see if any of the SMS apps available for WM have the ability to save them in an accessible format elsewhere on the phone, like in a folder on the SD card (ideally).
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
sirphunkee said:
I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time.
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also use a couple of tools to back up my messages (jeyo mobile extender and mIQ live) so I guess there really isn't a need for me to keep my messages on my phone. I just don't have the time to sit there and trim down my sms storage on a daily basis. Deleting messages is also a slow process on winmo. It just annoys me that something this simple and easy to reproduce passes QA and gets released to the public. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to find workarounds for these bugs. Ultimately I think it comes down to trying to keep up with the competition. Microsoft and HTC are trying so hard to keep up with the iphone, blackberry and now the droid that they've really eased up their QA process and let things like this get passed QA just to release a phone. From my standpoint, they're not doing themselves any favors by doing this.
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
SlimJ87D said:
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I didn't have the text lag with 6.1 either. I find it quite odd and annoying.
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
I also get a lag with the latest mighty rom but its mostly a lag when replying to a text message or even trying to close the window for text messaging it takes 5-10 seconds at times to close. I thought it was something with the software < i wish there was some time of program to overclock how fast the sms software works
wpbear said:
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
imeraz said:
How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
wpbear said:
I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is why you don't get any sms lag. I do 500 every two or three days and I don't ever delete. I need to keep my messages for business purposes. I have software that backs up my messages to outlook but I like some redundancy. Either way I don't have time to sit there and clean my inbox on a daily basis and I shouldn't have to. With the volume of texting that I do I would have to clean it every day to keep my phone from lagging. Winmo stores an "unlimited" number of text messages (provided there memory available), yet the phone doesn't work properly if the inbox is too large. To me, that's a feature wasted. If you're going to give a phone a feature, make it so that it works.
Tmobile 6.5 Rom Mine lags all the time. I'm not patient so i soft reset most of the time. it is pretty annoying
SlimJ87D said:
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here.
Is there a 3rd party application that can be used? The only thing I can do to stop the lag, is to run traditional mode, which is not what I want. (HD2)
I disable the HTC Messaging service and use the WM client.
You can still use the HTC messaging from the contact page of a person, but it sets the WM as the default
See my post here and try it out if you want.
Theres no lag at all.
I still get the lag after I send a message and exit out of the screen to go back to sms inbox, anyone find a solution yet?
Do you guys have issues when sending txt messages? My phone almost everyday when I try to send a txt message i'll wont finish sending, it keeps saying "sending" and it wont deliver. I have to delete the message and restart my phone....
This is really annoying....
Is there a fix for this?
Are you doing level 2 ram clears to end applications? If so this has been known to play hell with SMS/MMS.
if you DID do a level 2 ram clear... just reboot your phone and try again
What's a "level 2" ram clear?
BTW, I'm in NYC area, and Sprint has been having major issues here over the past week or 2. Almost everyone I know on Sprint is experiencing dropped calls, failed messages and other connection problems. Supposedly a known issue.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
I did have this problem on the stock Epic. Do not ask me why but if I turned the Data Network Mode off it would send all messages. I would then turn it back on and have no problems for a few days and then it would pick up again. It was almost like the phone just needed a change of routine. This hasn't happened recently, but was very annoying.
Sent from Epic ACS SRF 1.2
Stock SMS app?
Do you experience this issue using the stock SMS app or a different one?
If using stock app, have you tried a different one like ChompSMS or Handcent?
Yes, I do level 2 ram clear very often actually, so this might be the problem ahn?
I use the stock one, I've tried and handcent once and had the same issue with it....
Thanks for the feedback guys....
Don't clear the Ram (on any level) unless your phone stops working properly.
The Android OS manages memory better on it's own than you will ever be able to and it won't lead to issues like messages not sending.
So I seem to have this HUGE problem. I've noticed this first about 2 months ago. The problem is that my notification light will blink, the phone will vibrate, and a notification for a new text will play. But I go to check my texts, and nope! Nothing! So, I thought it was just whatever. But people actually were texting me and my Evo decided to just delete it for whatever reason. Now this doesn't happen for every new text, I get about 150 a day, and it will do it for around 5 new texts. It gets annoying cuz then I have to text my friends to ask if they just texted me or not since I never got it cuz my phone deleted it. Not to mention I'm trying to patch things up with someone and it doesn't help if they text me and I never reply because I never "got" it.
I can replicate this issue when I play a memory intensive game. I know I'm getting texts because I've tried sending a text from another phone, and it would light up or whatever, but I would NEVER see that text. Plants vs. Zombies can replicate it. So I've considered it to be a memory issue. Maybe my MMS receiver closes as it needs more RAM. So I've been trying to figure out how to lock everything MMS related to memory but with no luck. And yes, I've tried to use MMS apps like Handcent, GO SMS Pro etc. No luck there either. And I've tried to use AMM to bring up the priority of my MMS service, also with no luck as it just resets to hidden app.
I've had this issue on quite a few ROM's. Synergy (Nightlies, RC1, RC2-Currently Running), MikG since the beta days, the Gingerbread leak, Kingdom REVOlution. Even on Froyo! I'm getting desperate to try CM7, I really love Sense but if this issue persists, I might just try CM7, but I wanted to know, has anyone else ever had this problem? Am I just screwed!? I'm afraid to get a replacement because of no root. Any help is greatly appreciated!
I would recommend signing up for Google Voice it backs up all your texts online and because your on Sprint you dont have to change your number Another Pro is that when switching roms it will download your texts for you when you install the App from Market. I am pretty sure this will fix it because your texts will get routed through Google Voice
google.com/voice
go sms pro
To avoid this problem i would advice switching to go sms pro its faster and lighter than the htc stock sms app. ever since I switched i had no probs.
My phone doesnt always send txts right away, sometimes I will send 2 or 3 txts in a row and last one might send and other ones will say sending, I use verizon messaging app, restarting the phone or turning data on helps sometimes.
same
bogdan9652 said:
My phone doesnt always send txts right away, sometimes I will send 2 or 3 txts in a row and last one might send and other ones will say sending, I use verizon messaging app, restarting the phone or turning data on helps sometimes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have a fix for this but have the same issue and thought it was the app I used for texting, Contacts, excellent program now that I see it wasn't them causing the issue.It seems to have gotten somewhat better for me as they have updated there app every once in awhile.
I have recently tried using the Messaging+ from Verizon since they are supposed to work over WiFi... but I am finding that I am never getting notifications for some. I also have LG G Watch that isn't picking it up either. When I open Messaging+ there are several unread messages waiting for me.
I also dislike how it doesn't include the message in the notification, I just get "Joe Blow sent 1 new message".
I REALLY REALLY REALLY love the look and feel of "Hello SMS" for SMS but it works horrible for MMS. I can receive the MMS pictures but cannot send MMS pictures. When I do receive pictures, because I use a custom DPI, I only see a small corner of the image. I have to download, save, and open the picture up in Gallery. But because I usually chat with my GF using Hangouts and usually don't send pictures via texting, this typically is a non-issue for me. But the few times you need it, it is a pain.
If HelloSMS would get their act together with the MMS bugs, it would be very highly recommended. It is slim and pretty basic. But I love the style, notification dropdown shade, and simplisity.
There is another app that I like called Evolve. I could set it up similar to HelloSMS but for some reason I just didn't like it. It worked great.
Another one that I am looking at is HoverChat. It incorporates the Floating head bubbles similar to Facebook Messanger. Never tried it though.
So, assuming you own this phone, whats everyone using for SMS & MMS? I would like to use the stock messages app, though there isnt much in terms of customization. On my Note 10+ i went stock, on my 1+7 Pro I went stock but, this app honestly (unless my settings need tweaking) just really sucks! Normally in a group message I am able to see the names of the individuals who text but, with Vivo's stock app I dont, I just see the message. Is anyone else having this issue? Things seem to be fine if I download Textra but, id prefer to use stock, unless someone gives me a reason not to? Also, has anyone tried to use the app Mei messages on the Nex 3?