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[Q] 4.0.2 vs 4.0.4

so i'm getting a gnex (vzw) on wednesday and i had a look at the one in the vz store and it was running 4.0.2
it lagged....a lot (in the browser)
4.0.3 runs great on my captivate so i was wondering if 4.0.4 fixed that on the gnex.
thanks!

ezcats said:
so i'm getting a gnex (vzw) on wednesday and i had a look at the one in the vz store and it was running 4.0.2
it lagged....a lot (in the browser)
4.0.3 runs great on my captivate so i was wondering if 4.0.4 fixed that on the gnex.
thanks!
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yes . 4.0.1 and 4.02 browser sucks so laggy , 4.0.3 they fixed it

You have to manually load 4.0.4 yourself though.
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joshnichols189 said:
You have to manually load 4.0.4 yourself though.
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Thanks guys!!!...pleeeease don't tell me that the gsm version already has 4.0.4...i don't want fragmentation with a nexus device...
its not an OTA yet right?

No, we don't. Technically the Verizon version isn't supposed to either. Someone got lucky and it was pushed to their phone and devs got it from him
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Flashing 4.0.4 seems hard...whatever happened to just flashing a zip?!

ezcats said:
Thanks guys!!!...pleeeease don't tell me that the gsm version already has 4.0.4...i don't want fragmentation with a nexus device...
its not an OTA yet right?
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Neither phone has any higher than 4.0.2 OTA. Anything higher is a custom ROM.

martonikaj said:
Neither phone has any higher than 4.0.2 OTA. Anything higher is a custom ROM.
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ok thanks...
(i never keep the stock rom so...i don't care)
weird considering 4.0.3 fixes the browser lag

I'm running 4.0.4 and it's amazing. That said, NEVER trust lag you see on a demo phone in a store. They are a mess from people playing with them all day.
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Thanks a lot everyone!
I cant wait for this phone!!!

Get the GNex and install ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481613
The wife and I have both been running this since it leaked .. she even got notification the day before I installed on her for her phone to upgrade to this 4.0.4 update. It appears it was being pushed to some maybe as a test. But in any event 4.0.4 makes this phone great. It has great battery life, it's fast as f*** and just really nice.

Im really tempted to root my Gnex just to flash AOKP or something so i can get at least 4.0.3 up and running. Im still on 4.0.2 and it makes the phone slow and sluggish at times and its really disappointing!

Do it now 4.0.4 has fixed a few problems. I can't wait until the next leak or official update
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GinoSylum said:
I'm running 4.0.4 and it's amazing. That said, NEVER trust lag you see on a demo phone in a store. They are a mess from people playing with them all day.
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This.
I still sigh at how slow my store's demo Galaxy Tab 10.1 is. People load it up with crap and throw infinite widgets across 5 home screens each and every day.

4.1.1 feel a lot smoother than 4.1...

Just got the 4.1.1 OTA and I gotta say, they made a lot of improvements from 4.1, (IO preview edition) and 4.1 wasn't bad at all! The biggest thing I noticed right away was a smoother notification bar. It just kept higher frame rate and such. I also noticed the stock launcher to be smoother overall (but especially in app drawer). I am very impressed with this small update. I first thought that it was just a small bug fix, but it's much more than that! I am running takju (had yakjuux but flashed to takju).
What kind of improvements did you guys see after the small update???

Waiting for an AKOP 4.1 ROM.

phatmanxxl said:
Waiting for an AKOP 4.1 ROM.
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Past AKOP user I am guessing? Never used it, how was it?

kyokeun1234 said:
Past AKOP user I am guessing? Never used it, how was it?
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Stock just feels lacking and incomplete after using AKOP.

phatmanxxl said:
Stock just feels lacking and incomplete after using AKOP.
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Huh, maybe I should try it when Jelly Bean for AKOP comes out...

kyokeun1234 said:
Huh, maybe I should try it when Jelly Bean for AKOP comes out...
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I think you mean AOKP, and I'd venture a guess you'll be waiting a while.

Yea lol AOKP, its all good. I did try JB and I like it.

Yeah, definitely noticed an increase in performance in going from 4.1 to 4.1.1.
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switching tab using quick control in stock browser is a lot faster and it doesn't need to load th page again

android.vibrant said:
switching tab using quick control in stock browser is a lot faster and it doesn't need to load th page again
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Does it? I didn't notice that prob cuz I use chrome

I feel exactly the opposite.
4.1 was a lot smoother for me than 4.1.1. There are certain lags and stutters that were not there before, at least for me.
Tried several different ROMs, official OTA, dirty installs, fresh ones...I'm actually starting to believe that the real thing lagging is my brain.
Think I'll just let it go for a while before I go nuts on this, and enjoy the phone a little bit.

Fabriciohss said:
I feel exactly the opposite.
4.1 was a lot smoother for me than 4.1.1. There are certain lags and stutters that were not there before, at least for me.
Tried several different ROMs, official OTA, dirty installs, fresh ones...I'm actually starting to believe that the real thing lagging is my brain.
Think I'll just let it go for a while before I go nuts on this, and enjoy the phone a little bit.
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I'm sorry to hear that... for me, it's just smoother and just better, I dunno why you disagree
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I honestly can't see a difference in smoothness. The screen is still glass and dirt still makes it harder to scroll around.
I'll apply some butter to it in the morning, but I'm afraid that will mess it up.
No really, movement between apps seems better, but scrolling seems unchanged.

The 4.1.1 update has helped my battery life.
Been going 12 hours since updating this morning and I have left 3g on all day. Still at about the 50-60% mark
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There is no difference in smoothness between 4.1 and 4.1.1. It's a placebo and you also have different experiences based on the amount of apps you have running and based on what you are doing.

Does "project butter" apply only to the stock launcher? I'm using Nova and it feels smoother than before but still get the occasional stutter, specially when using live wallpapers.

gabster21 said:
Does "project butter" apply only to the stock launcher? I'm using Nova and it feels smoother than before but still get the occasional stutter, specially when using live wallpapers.
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I guess Nova launcher didn't enable some elements that apply to project butter or something... stock launcher doesn't lag at all, even in SOME live wallpapers
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I have heard from friends that 4.1 was actually a tad smoother. Can't comment since I got my nexus the day the OTA rolled out
and never used 4.1. I wonder what the next 4.1.x versions will bring.

I'm actually curious after uprgrading from 4.1 to 4.1.1 the Google search voice command I guess called Google Now, takes a little while to start up it say "Initializing" almost everytime I start it up. When I would use it before in 4.1 it wouldn't even say "Initializing" it would go straight and allow me to speak.
I'm guessing maybe because more people are using it, and that causes more lag, just wondering if anyone else has encountered this?

MotoHead305 said:
I'm actually curious after uprgrading from 4.1 to 4.1.1 the Google search voice command I guess called Google Now, takes a little while to start up it say "Initializing" almost everytime I start it up. When I would use it before in 4.1 it wouldn't even say "Initializing" it would go straight and allow me to speak.
I'm guessing maybe because more people are using it, and that causes more lag, just wondering if anyone else has encountered this?
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Hmm... that never happened to me... maybe that's because less people are using jelly bean in Canada?
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Lags

Hey. After I flash a new rom, the phone is super quick and respones very well. Buy after a few days, it starts to get laggy. When I am presaing the soft keys it takes a couple of seconds to respond, apps loading times can reach about 20 seconds, contacts loading too. I am using the GSM Gnex with CNA 3.8 rom and franco kernel r298. The lags occurred with XenonHD too. Dont get me wrong, I am not complaining about the developers, I am just trying to figure out if I am doing something wrong.
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bar_rodoy said:
Hey. After I flash a new rom, the phone is super quick and respones very well. Buy after a few days, it starts to get laggy. When I am presaing the soft keys it takes a couple of seconds to respond, apps loading times can reach about 20 seconds, contacts loading too. I am using the GSM Gnex with CNA 3.8 rom and franco kernel r298. The lags occurred with XenonHD too. Dont get me wrong, I am not complaining about the developers, I am just trying to figure out if I am doing something wrong.
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Are you rebooting your phone or just leaving it on for weeks at a time?

I remember someone saying it has to do with the zram optimizations in roms and kernels. at first it makes things faster and the the idea implemented is good in theory but over time it makes things unbearably slow. i dont know the technical reasons for this, someone with more knowledge than me may be able to explain it.
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I forgot to mention, its getting worse when I download or update app from the Play Store. During the download process the phone realy lagg.
063_xbox, the phone restarts itself sometimes when I use it...
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bar_rodoy said:
I forgot to mention, its getting worse when I download or update app from the Play Store. During the download process the phone realy lagg.
063_xbox, the phone restarts itself sometimes when I use it...
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Obviously downloading from the Play Store is using system resources (RAM, a % of the processor etc.) so a slow down is to be expected.
The phone restarting itself =/= to rebooting it regularly. Just like your computer you shouldn't leave it running 24/7. Sometimes you just need to give your phone a restart.

I think the lags are related to the heatcof the Gnex. Maybe the my cheap case makes it worse. I will check without case so it have more contact with the air. I will report the results.
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I've noticed the same lag after few days. It's really frustrating to see your phone very fast and then kind of choppy....
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It looks almost like a memory leak. (That was a big problem on exynos devices runing cm10). It happened to me today (latest nightly cm10), Once my free ram was less than 100 mb the phone became noticeably less responsive.

Sane here!!! Thought it was just me... lol. I was running black bean baked! I love it but became super laggy! Almost threw it across my room lol. But just clashed slim bean and hope its bad ROM coding :-/.
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I understand that custom roms do have great features but let me tell you something, after I switched from the S3 I decided not to flash any rom, I just used the nexus toolkit to root it and of course install franco kernel, since then the experience has been amazing, I'm just very careful with the apps I install, cheers!
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I've experienced the same on about every JB setup I've tried. A reboot tends to purge assets and get me truckin' again for several days though.

I recommend keeping it stock you people, stock almost never lags unless u use the google+ app
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Let me just chime in with the same advice as the previous poster: Try the stock rom. 99% of your problems will magically disappear.

lsv-1 said:
I understand that custom roms do have great features but let me tell you something, after I switched from the S3 I decided not to flash any rom, I just used the nexus toolkit to root it and of course install franco kernel, since then the experience has been amazing, I'm just very careful with the apps I install, cheers!
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Wow! If you only knew that no matter which ROM you're running, the majority of bugs are caused by the kernel. You did not make a smart choice on kernel my friend.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Wow! If you only knew that no matter which ROM you're running, the majority of bugs are caused by the kernel. You did not make a smart choice on kernel my friend.
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Ok, so, what kernel you think is a smart choice my friend?
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lsv-1 said:
Ok, so, what kernel you think is a smart choice my friend?
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Stock, of course! :wink: :wink:

063_XOBX said:
Are you rebooting your phone or just leaving it on for weeks at a time?
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this..

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Stock, of course! :wink: :wink:
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Yup u are right. Many people used to tell that Franco kernel is the best and stuff but even that after using for a few days gets slow whereas in stock all that crap doesn't happen. I still use Franco because games work smoother on it compared to stock. Even the battery life is inconsistent. Just try stock after weeks and Franco right after a reboot still stock will be overall faster and smoother.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Stock, of course! :wink: :wink:
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LOL, unfortunately I need franco's kernel (or any other custom kernel) to do things that the stock doesn't allow, i. e modify the colors of the screen (I hate yellowish whites) use pgm2 aka slide to wake, use louder patch and modify specific cpu parameters.
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lsv-1 said:
LOL, unfortunately I need franco's kernel (or any other custom kernel) to do things that the stock doesn't allow, i. e modify the colors of the screen (I hate yellowish whites) use pgm2 aka slide to wake, use louder patch and modify specific cpu parameters.
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Yeah, that the point. I want to change the screen color settings... Franco's kernel allows you to do that.
I am going to change to team EOS rom and check it for a few days. If I have problems with that one I am going back to stock rom.

(Speculation) Why is the butter gone?

Many people have had issues with retaining the" butter" from 4.2, let's here your experience, and what you did to get it back, or what we should try. Let's try to regain our butter
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Who said it was gone?
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Some users are having issues with
Stuttering and lag, this thread is a discussion about why and ways to fix it
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I agree with that, it's not really lag, but the smoothness drops back to ISC level. Maybe 4.2 needs 2G RAM to perform?

Yeah. Some people have butter though, so we know it is definitely capable
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When my butter is gone, I go to the grocery store and buy some more.
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Google rushes things. They also forgot about December, Play store launch was a fail, and put Chrome as the stock browser. I love Google, but they need to quit playing games with my heart (yup, I went there.).
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bpyazel said:
When my butter is gone, I go to the grocery store and buy some more.
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. wish it was that ready for phones
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I haven't had a problem, not sure if I just got lucky or if it's fully a credit to mmuzzy and tiny.
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How to get the butter back:
1) Download the last stable 4.1.2 rom of your choice
2) Do a factory reset with TWRP
3) Wipe the buggy 4.2.1 rom using TWRP
4) Flash 4.1.2 back in.
5) Enjoy butter while waiting for 4.2.2 or later builds which is probably coming in January due to the holidays.
Was that so hard?

CADude said:
How to get the butter back:
1) Download the last stable 4.1.2 rom of your choice
2) Do a factory reset with TWRP
3) Wipe the buggy 4.2.1 rom using TWRP
4) Flash 4.1.2 back in.
5) Enjoy butter while waiting for 4.2.2 or later builds which is probably coming in January due to the holidays.
Was that so hard?
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Or just flash the official 4.2.1. I run stock, rooted and have no problems. I tried a few roms based of 4.2.1 and they were slow and laggy.

This reminds me of the "zero shutter lag" feature that was removed from the Gnex, or selling a 8GB device just to say it "starts at $299." It's just something fancy for them to advertise and get some hype/sales, then they remove it. This is standard procedure by now, right?

Butter is not gone, 4.2 is definitely smoother than ICS and on par with 4.1 and it seems to have much less stutter than 4.1 did
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I can confirm that 4.2.1 stock seems really fast to me.
I have to say that I'm a new GNex user, coming from a Nexus S with 4.1.2. I was using rasbeanjelly with an optimised kernel: there were obviously some lags, time to time.
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I understand that it is still there, this is a thread for people who are having issues with lag
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I came from S2 and I feel Gnex is way more buttery.

ray3andrei said:
Butter is not gone, 4.2 is definitely smoother than ICS and on par with 4.1 and it seems to have much less stutter than 4.1 did
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ncvikingx97 said:
I understand that it is still there, this is a thread for people who are having issues with lag
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Guys I know that when working it oz butter, but right now this is a thread top help people who's phones are lagging. of you don't have anything good top day don't say it
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ncvikingx97 said:
Guys I know that when working it oz butter, but right now this is a thread top help people who's phones are lagging. of you don't have anything good top day don't say it
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Noone can tell you exactly what, but the general trend is, that the OTA caused various problems for some, so when some people don't have problems on the same SW, the problem can only be located to something stored on the data partition because of the update process compared to a full wipe.
So the answer is simple, you do a full wipe and install the factory image of 4.2(.1) directly. If this doesn't solve it, it isn't a software problem...
And yes my phone is no less fluid than it was on 4.1, Í, however, updated as descriped with a clean install.
(1)They also forgot about December, (2)Play store launch was a fail, and put (3)Chrome as the stock browser.
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1. No that is a general misconception, what was really the case, was a regular code error(zero-index error), making the last row in the array holding the months being skipped. You can't blame them for not spotting this small error in the very limited testing they can do in house. I for one have never used that particular feature and didn't know you could add birthdays until this was discovered. What really matters is that it was fixed within weeks.
2. How? Everything seems to be branded as play store quite fine, whether you like the name or not shouldn't matter
3. why wouldn't they promote the chrome brand and make it easier for users to sync everything between their desktop and phone?

In a direct comparison,i still think 4.1.2 is a bit more fluid overall (app drawer for example,let alone recent apps list). That together with all the other stuff going on (screen switches on,blutooth, worse battery - for me at least) led me to go back and stay to 4.1.2. Not a single problem and constant ~4h on screen time. I can easily wait for a bugfix update next year.

For those anticipating 4.3

Just put it on my Nexus 7....and I just gotta say.....whoopty dooooo! LOL
Wouldn't know it was any different.
Those eager flashaholic beavers drooling for 4.3 roms to drop on the t989 are gonna be very underwhelmed.
My N7 isn't lagging as much as 4.2.2.....and that's about all I can say.
My t989 doesn't lag....so......4.3 for t989.....I'll pass....prolly just be a big crop of new issues to sort out....for nothing really.
For serious guys!
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4.3 is pretty much just a patch....not an update. Probably geared towards the Nexus 7 and other devices that lagged bad on 4.2.2. It did improve that a bit.
But its pretty much just service pack 1 for 4.2.2. Lol
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Awww shux.... I'll stick with Helly Bean 4.2.2 then thanks.
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Its project butter revisited.
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kj2112 said:
Just put it on my Nexus 7....and I just gotta say.....whoopty dooooo! LOL
Wouldn't know it was any different.
Those eager flashaholic beavers drooling for 4.3 roms to drop on the t989 are gonna be very underwhelmed.
My N7 isn't lagging as much as 4.2.2.....and that's about all I can say.
My t989 doesn't lag....so......4.3 for t989.....I'll pass....prolly just be a big crop of new issues to sort out....for nothing really.
For serious guys!
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Yeah it's not much different, I also did notice an improvement on my Nexus 7 as well.

TheLastSidekick said:
Yeah it's not much different, I also did notice an improvement on my Nexus 7 as well.
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Did you guys have 16gb versions? Because I had the 32gb N7. I read that the memory in the 32gb was faster. I had cm10.1 with m-kernel and everything was fast, smooth and snappy. Scored a little over 15k in antutu.
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Yeah I have the 16Gb version and I was primarily running Franco.kernel
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the should just call it 4.2.3 lol

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Yeah I have the 16Gb version and I was primarily running Franco.kernel
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That's probably why. If you go on the N7 forums anyone with a 32gb is doing swell. Only people with 16gb versions are having performance quirks.
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Just me personally ....for us I'd leave 4.3 alone. The glitches in 4.2.2 are finally getting smoothed out now.....and to start developing 4.3 and the new issues that will arise seems kinda pointless.
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kj2112 said:
Just me personally ....for us I'd leave 4.3 alone. The glitches in 4.2.2 are finally getting smoothed out now.....and to start developing 4.3 and the new issues that will arise seems kinda pointless.
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I think people should just let this phone die and move on. Developers can't keep supporting an aging device forever, and the t989 has had an amazing run support wise. What more do people want? I can't see this phone running better than it already does.
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H3adru5H said:
I think people should just let this phone die and move on. Developers can't keep supporting an aging device forever, and the t989 has had an amazing run support wise. What more do people want? I can't see this phone running better than it already does.
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Some developers, just like I am, are stuck with thus phone awhile. So I'll appreciate further development. Just don't think working on 4.3 will be of any benefit. Just keep tweaking 4.2.2. It still isn't glitch free. We have 4.1.2 also for touchwiz fans. I see no point in worrying about 4.3....it brings nothing really to the table....except probably more glitches.
So I can't move on....but I agree our range of roms are working well enough.....just keep optimizing 4.1.2 and 4.2.2. 4.3 and key lime won't improve anything....just add more headaches. The t989 will probably lag out on key lime I'd guess.
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kj2112 said:
Some developers, just like I am, are stuck with thus phone awhile. So I'll appreciate further development. Just don't think working on 4.3 will be of any benefit. Just keep tweaking 4.2.2. It still isn't glitch free. We have 4.1.2 also for touchwiz fans. I see no point in worrying about 4.3....it brings nothing really to the table....except probably more glitches.
So I can't move on....but I agree our range of roms are working well enough.....just keep optimizing 4.1.2 and 4.2.2. 4.3 and key lime won't improve anything....just add more headaches. The t989 will probably lag out on key lime I'd guess.
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True. I just got this thing to run mint on the latest cm10.1. I'm not touching it until I sell it lol
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H3adru5H said:
I think people should just let this phone die and move on. Developers can't keep supporting an aging device forever, and the t989 has had an amazing run support wise. What more do people want? I can't see this phone running better than it already does.
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The Hercules still has a another 18mts to 2yr expected shelf life in terms of being supported by tmobile, there not going to drop it anytime soon so I'm sure we can expect development to continue, like others have said some ppl aren't fortunate enough to be able to opt into a newer device so as for me, in going to continue to build roms kernels and mods for this device, Sammy is expected to bring it to official 4.2.2 , don't expect it soon but this device won't die until 4.2.2 is released, just like the s3 and note will all so updates at 4.2.2
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This is a nice addition with 4.3:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/26/hidden-permissions-manager-android-4-3/
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H3adru5H said:
I think people should just let this phone die and move on. Developers can't keep supporting an aging device forever, and the t989 has had an amazing run support wise. What more do people want? I can't see this phone running better than it already does.
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People had that same negative attitude about G1 and HD2 as well and look how far and long they have come from there releases. My G1 had android 1.5 when I bought it and 2.3.7 when I sold it. My HD2 had windows phone 6.5 when I bought it when I sold it it was quad booting with CM10, Pacman, AOKP, and PA. But by all means feel free to move on to a newer "better" device. I am very happy with my GS2 I am running Hellybean, and seems faster than my buddys toro.

Yeah 4.3 doesn't look very exciting to me..yes it brings a few new features but overall there isn't much to get excited about.
But I may be proved wrong.. Well just have to see how this phone performs
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I on other hand would love to see all future upgrades on this phone, Phone is still sold my tmobile so I don't see a reason why development should stop.. Also phone is well capable of handling 4.3 easily so why not? If you're like me who uses phone for emails, browsing, movies and minor gaming, This is a perfect phone.. Only thing I don't like about phone is battery drain during sleep and poor batter performance overall. everything else is just fine.. So yea I can't wait for someone to port future upgrades on this phone.

arvinchugh said:
I on other hand would love to see all future upgrades on this phone, Phone is still sold my tmobile so I don't see a reason why development should stop.. Also phone is well capable of handling 4.3 easily so why not? If you're like me who uses phone for emails, browsing, movies and minor gaming, This is a perfect phone.. Only thing I don't like about phone is battery drain during sleep and poor batter performance overall. everything else is just fine.. So yea I can't wait for someone to port future upgrades on this phone.
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No one will disagree with you. But, if we aren't getting official 4.2.2 or 4.3 and up....development will halt or slow down at some point. Its inevitable. Personally I'll stick with 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 for now. Unless 4.3 is developed with no more glitches than 4.2.2 presently has. 4.3 adds nothing to the s2 really, so I won't run a rom that has too many problems when its no different than a previous version that's stable pretty much. 4.3 helped the Nexus 7 with its lag issues for sure, but that's it. But I think our phone doesn't have those lag issues like the N7, so 4.3 adds nothing that we don't already have.
Now key lime pie may add/change a lot.. if our phones can run it smoothly. So that may be worth all the issues porting it will bring.
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No one will disagree with you. But, if we aren't getting official 4.2.2 or 4.3 and up....development will halt or slow down at some point. Its inevitable. Personally I'll stick with 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 for now. Unless 4.3 is developed with no more glitches than 4.2.2 presently has. 4.3 adds nothing to the s2 really, so I won't run a rom that has too many problems when its no different than a previous version that's stable pretty much. 4.3 helped the Nexus 7 with its lag issues for sure, but that's it. But I think our phone doesn't have those lag issues like the N7, so 4.3 adds nothing that we don't already have.
Now key lime pie may add/change a lot.. if our phones can run it smoothly. So that may be worth all the issues porting it will bring.
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KLP is said to run on a device with as little as 512mb ram, so if that's the case the Hercules should run it easily, maybe not allll the bells and whistles, I mean its old hardware and that has to count for something but I don't see why not ...I'll keep developing this phone as long as I have it, an if I can get klp to boot, I will share lol
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