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Is Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium available in USA? or Will it be available soon??
If yes, which service provider / region?
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ash3012 said:
Is Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium available in USA? or Will it be available soon??
If yes, which service provider / region?
Thanks Ahead
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yep should be available in the US officially june/july latest august! pretty sure that t-mobile will one of the front runners with it as the mda vario v as its called in uk is due for release soon. dont think you have long to wait
Is the Sprint version not rumored to be launching in mid June (i really want it to be) ?
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Is the Sprint version not rumored to be launching in mid June (i really want it to be) ?
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The ATT version was rumored to have launched a couple of weeks ago (as per the ancient-looking leaked ATT docs)
Hopefully they'll all be out soon.
I don't understand why the companies can't tell us what phones and when they are going to come out.
I actually need this device for my work. I know I could get a touch 1, but with the 2 "rumored" to be out really soon, I figure I should wait. I don't have a problem waiting, but I would like some hard dates from these companies so I can actually plan and know.
Funny thing is, I'm with Tmobile right now, but their 3G is way too limited where I live now. Sprint, Verizon, and ATT are much better with their advertised 3G in my area. I have no probs switching, but who is gonna get it?
If this was just waiting for a toy, I could care less. But it will make my work at least 10 times more efficient with the use of all the features of this device.
Does anyone know a way to get a rock solid answer from these companies?
Baffler said:
I don't understand why the companies can't tell us what phones and when they are going to come out.
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Does anyone know a way to get a rock solid answer from these companies?
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They get around to it when they get around to it, but there is an actual reason why it seems to take so long.
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
This isn't idle speculation on my part, the impulse to conceal the next model is a well-established business practice based on knowledge of the Osborne effect (although the origins may be semi-mythical, the effect does happen under the right circumstances).
Besides this, launching a device successfully is complicated. Announce a date and then have to delay it, then everyone gets pissed and the device/carrier gets a worse rep than if they don't announce but still end up with the same launch date. There's really very little upside to getting precise information out there as early as possible.
fortunz said:
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
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So true. A coworker of mine just bought the FUZE (TP1) because he had no idea that the TP2 was coming to AT&T (or even existed for that matter).
P.S. He's was PISSED when I told him!
Hamburg said:
So true. A coworker of mine just bought the FUZE (TP1) because he had no idea that the TP2 was coming to AT&T (or even existed for that matter).
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Heck, most of the AT&T store sales crew don't even know it's coming until it appears on their inventory one day! They are very
Thanks friends !
Its true that these service providers hide the arrival details of new models. But the fact that frustrates me more is these buggers change names of models - like Rhodium is called by at least 4 other names including Rhodium, MDA Vario V etc. Is it must to create confusion among consumers?
Why can't there be a single name for a product (or 2 names at the most - one Project name - like Rhodium and other Trade Name - like Touch Pro 2)??
Welcome to Product Marketing at its best
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24379
check out this site for US guys. says expected june 10th for generic model
shingers5 said:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24379
check out this site for US guys. says expected june 10th for generic model
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That's still only EDGE-functional though, correct?
jonnyp4l said:
That's still only EDGE-functional though, correct?
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ya its a euro model. no confirmed announcements on US variant yet! hope ya guys get it for your region to enjoy the full benefits of this amazing handset! it is that good. can't wait to use wm6.5 on it
fortunz said:
They get around to it when they get around to it, but there is an actual reason why it seems to take so long.
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
This isn't idle speculation on my part, the impulse to conceal the next model is a well-established business practice based on knowledge of the Osborne effect (although the origins may be semi-mythical, the effect does happen under the right circumstances).
Besides this, launching a device successfully is complicated. Announce a date and then have to delay it, then everyone gets pissed and the device/carrier gets a worse rep than if they don't announce but still end up with the same launch date. There's really very little upside to getting precise information out there as early as possible.
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A very logical response....D*mmit!!
Guess I'm gonna have to be patient and hope for sooner rather than later. If there ever was a time for an insider to come out with some info.....
shingers5 said:
ya its a euro model. no confirmed announcements on US variant yet! hope ya guys get it for your region to enjoy the full benefits of this amazing handset! it is that good. can't wait to use wm6.5 on it
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I'm not sure this wouldn't fall under the Geneva Convention's guidelines of torture.
Finally the waiting is over
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/18/at-to-launch-the-tilt-2-on-october-6th-coincidence/
Updated and now says the Oct 18th
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/09/18/at-to-launch-the-tilt-2-on-october-18th/
now the ATT bashing should calm down...when this release with 6.5 out of the box and only gsm with 3.5 jack then we gonna be see some envy look from tmobile and international versioin...worth the wait
It has not been confirmed whether the AT&T version has a 3.5mm jack or not. I can't believe that whoever took that spy picture didn't think of taking a picture of the bottom! This could have been cleared up a month ago!
The waiting won't be over until that device is in my grubby mitts With so many rumored dates already floating around its hard to get excited about this, even if it was posted on BGR.
Edit: Wait, the 18th? Is Sunday a typical day for device releases?
YES!!!!
Toleraen said:
The waiting won't be over until that device is in my grubby mitts With so many rumored dates already floating around its hard to get excited about this, even if it was posted on BGR.
Edit: Wait, the 18th? Is Sunday a typical day for device releases?
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yes ATT release their new device usually on a sunday iphone and the fuze was release on sunday.
jtoyz2 said:
yes ATT release their new device usually on a sunday iphone and the fuze was release on sunday.
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The FUZE came out November 11 which was a Tuesday.
I think they should release it on a Friday..
So tired of waiting on AT&T...
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So tired of waiting on AT&T...
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You aint the only 1...I hope they launch this phone already...I mean spl is ready so I will have ATT rom on it for ole...3 minutes just enough time to flash spl and flash latest NRG Rom
My question is whether the 2-year-contract price will be closer to Verizon ($200) or TMobile ($349)...
My question is, how soon til the HTC Leo will be offered by AT&T? I've been free of my contract since this past June and have been waiting for the Tilt 2, but after seeing the HTC Leo, I wish I could get a possible release date for that to see if it would be worth the wait. I understand it doesn't have a keyboard, but with a screen like that, don't really need one. http://ai.rs/2009/09/htc-leo/ and http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ate-is-capacitive-pictured-from-ba/#continued
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My question is, how soon til the HTC Leo will be offered by AT&T?
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Well, judging by the TP2 (announced in Feb. 09' to launch on AT&T Oct. 09') I would say about 8-9 months after it is announced at the earliest. And that's if AT&T decides to subsidize it. Personally, I'm sticking with TP2 since I have already been waiting 8 months for it to come to AT&T.
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I would say about 8-9 months after it is announced at the earliest. And that's if AT&T decides to subsidize it.
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I agree with AT&T's lack of effort to push anything that doesn't begin with the letter I and end with phone. However, the HTC Leo is further along, than the Touch Pro 2 is, when we first heard about it. There's already video of the phone being shown with WM 6.5, a gallery of pics, and detailed specs with a much better snapdragon processor. I've got to believe this phone could be available before Christmas, if not somewhere in Q1 2010. I just want to guard against purchasing the Tilt 2, which I've been waiting for the past 6 months, and all of a sudden 2 months later, this phone comes out- which clearly has much better specs all the way around.
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I agree with AT&T's lack of effort to push anything that doesn't begin with the letter I and end with phone. However, the HTC Leo is further along, than the Touch Pro 2 is, when we first heard about it. There's already video of the phone being shown with WM 6.5, a gallery of pics, and detailed specs with a much better snapdragon processor. I've got to believe this phone could be available before Christmas, if not somewhere in Q1 2010. I just want to guard against purchasing the Tilt 2, which I've been waiting for the past 6 months, and all of a sudden 2 months later, this phone comes out- which clearly has much better specs all the way around.
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Seeing as the HTC Leo hasn't hit the FCC yet (that we know of), it has next to 0% chance of being released this year in the US. At earliest I would guess early Spring 2010.
Who knows if AT&T will even release the Leo. Did you see how insanely fast that was? Almost nothing took longer than 1 second to open! Nearly everything was instant! After 3 years of the MSM7200, we can FINALLY have a decent processor. Windows Mobile will stop getting a bad rep due to the MSM7200 garbage 90% of the WinMo phones have been using.
I just talked to a few rep's in the Portland OR area and they are also saying mid October as a release for the "Tilt 2".
Release date same for entire US?
When ATT releases their phones, is the release date the same for the enitre US? The reason being is that I live in Hawaii and I don't know if that will affect the actual release date. I'd really like to know because when that day comes I'm going to be there first thing and I don't want to receive any blank stares.
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When ATT releases their phones, is the release date the same for the enitre US? The reason being is that I live in Hawaii and I don't know if that will affect the actual release date. I'd really like to know because when that day comes I'm going to be there first thing and I don't want to receive any blank stares.
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Your best bet is to call your store once the date is official and find out what they say. My guess would be its nationwide.
Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?
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question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
Awesome news
Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!
Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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garymoncrieff
@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.
The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!
I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.
There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..
Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.
I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.
Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.
I've had the hero for 2.5 years and its really showing its age (CM 6.1 and fast as far as heroes go but still). I'm thinking I should use my upgrade and get the ET4G in the interim while LTE deploys this year and then sell it around Christmas and get the next Nexus or SGS sequel (HD Screen is the big draw) around that time.
What I need to know is:
Is there a better device release date on Sprint that I can look forward to in the next month or two? (gNexus in May/June too far away)
Have there been any revisions to the ET4G hardware/Firmware since release that will affect rooting ? (very important)
Since Lightsquared's LTE network is currently FUBAR, does Sprint still have an alternate LTE development path (Clear)? There's WiMax where I work in Sacramento for the mid term but I don't want to go 2 years without LTE...
If anyone can comment on Sprint vs Tmo in Auburn/Roseville/Sacramento CA please do. ATT is out of the question and VZ still too pricey (trying to keep it mostly unlimited under $90.00)
Thanks!
Some back-story if you care to keep reading...
I actually upgraded to the ET4G in October and had it for two weeks before returning it even though I really liked the device, Sprint's network speed on it was awful (100k-500k at best where my Hero had been getting 700k-1000k+ and faster in town). The rep demo'd another ET4G side by side and it was my device that was faulty so said he would exchange it but I decided to undo the upgrade and chill.
The decision then was to jump carriers to TMo and get the SGS2 there and some 42mbps Love... but I tested that with a friends phone where I live and no dice, especially with all the buyout/restructuring talk going on (AT&Tmo fails < Dish wants Tmo < now ATT wants Dish which wants Tmo) on top of the mediocre reception (foothills above Sacramento) and complaints of many dead zones all around Sacramento/Roseville. Sprints coverage was fine in my experience.
There has been an OTA update to the E4GT since its release, and another is upcoming in the near future.
I didn't play with the original stock rom at all, so I can't comment on D/L speeds, but the first update addressed network issues. The upcoming update is removing CIQ. I can tell you the E4GT loads pages much faster than my old Hero. (My kids phone now).
As for rooting, this device was the easiest that I have ever done. If you can install drivers for your phone and have the ability to read directions, root should be no problem. Subsequent OTA updates shouldn't effect the ability to root if using ODIN.
AFAIK, no other devices are coming down the pipeline sooner than the nexus. The LG Viper is going to be a LTE phone, but no release date has been set.
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I actually upgraded from the hero to the Epic 4g Touch. From personal experience, it's an amazing upgrade. I thought the same thing; should I wait?
Were I in your position, I would wait for the Galaxy Nexus. If that isn't possible, the E4GT is a good upgrade.
As misfit0313 said, there has been an OTA since then. However, this was one of the easiest phones to root with Odin. However, if you're like me and don't have a Windows box to use with Odin, it can be a little bit of a hassle. There's a Linux tool called Heimdall that works wonderfully, though.
There have also been several modem updates to the E4GT. In my opinion, they outperform the stock modem. As far as I know, they don't affect rooting. I got my E4GT 2 months ago or so, and it was rooted in a day.
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I actually upgraded from the hero to the Epic 4g Touch. From personal experience, it's an amazing upgrade. I thought the same thing; should I wait?
Were I in your position, I would wait for the Galaxy Nexus. If that isn't possible, the E4GT is a good upgrade.
As misfit0313 said, there has been an OTA since then. However, this was one of the easiest phones to root with Odin. However, if you're like me and don't have a Windows box to use with Odin, it can be a little bit of a hassle. There's a Linux tool called Heimdall that works wonderfully, though.
There have also been several modem updates to the E4GT. In my opinion, they outperform the stock modem. As far as I know, they don't affect rooting. I got my E4GT 2 months ago or so, and it was rooted in a day.
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Same here, I made the upgrade from Hero to E4GT and love it. It's going to blow your mind how much better it is than our Hero's were. I wish Jaybob and those other guys would come this way as well. His Kernels were amazing!
I actually came from a Blackberry Curve, but before that I had an HTC Hero for Sprint. My god, I must've had the factory test dummy, because I had so many problems on that Hero. Dropped calls, soft reboots, wouldn't receive texts, it was horrible. So bad, in fact, I blamed my hate on Android. Left the Hero for a BBCurve.
Now with the E4GT, it is lightyears beyond theHero, Android actually works, and let me not even get started how much better it is than my Bbcurve.
Just sharing my Hero-hatrid story. Hated it!
I was in your shoes for the longest time as well. I had a great experience with the hero and still miss it on occasion. If you could, I would wait for hopefully the 720p phones to come to sprint. If you can't hold off and don't want to waste your upgrade option, try getting a NS4G/EVO4G used on like swappa. Those both have ICS builds and are way faster than the hero. This was one of the options I had considered, but went for the E4GT when Amazon had it for $79.99 on sale.
Also, if you've had it for 2.5 years, you might have been grandfathered with the no premium data charge like I was. But as soon as you upgrade or swap devices (even used) you'll be hit with the $10 monthly charge. Just something to keep in mind...
Thx for the replies. I was ready to to the sprint store today but then I saw the rumored sgs3 may be announced soon. I need to stop looking at my rss and just get the et4g.
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ran1mal said:
Thx for the replies. I was ready to to the sprint store today but then I saw the rumored sgs3 may be announced soon. I need to stop looking at my rss and just get the et4g.
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"announced" being one thing, "soon" being another, released in the US on a carrier altogether another.
I've stopped looking at the horizon, knowing full well that there is Always something new there.
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This is where charlie sheen would say, "winning!"
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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We can always wish, but it has never been that way for any other device, so why would it change now?
Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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I feel the same way.
RogerPodacter said:
Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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That would be fantastic. Even if it said this month - update coming in June - that would be better than me hoping I might find a rumor that might seem credible. Then I'd know where to get genuine news relating to my device on MY carrier.
I am a looong time nexus user and I dont wish this anymore because I know it wont happend. Google works this way.
The only more or less "sure" thing is that when they say that it will be released in a couple of week is because it is already deployed in most employees devices for a long test and it will in fact be released in 2-3 weeks.
Google works this way because they don't have a ETA for when things are complete.
That's like saying telling CyanogenMod that you want more communication between them and the users so that they can post a timeline on when RC1/RC2 will be complete etc.
Things are just done when they're done.
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Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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Because...when something goes wrong, and they do not make their timeline, people would throw a fit, even more than they do now.
As others have mentioned, expecting any sort of ETA is completely unreasonable.
But honestly, this whole upgrade experience has been pretty underwhelming for two reasons: lack of communication and very slow speed. The volume bug -- a completely show-stopping bug -- took two weeks for a fix. I highly doubt it would take Apple that long to issue a software fix for such a serious bug. Sorry to bring Apple into the discussion, but it's true.
Not to mention that it's taken Google FIVE months to get NFC to be fully functional...
At the end of the day, having relatively quick updates of stock Android will probably keep me with Nexus devices, but an advertised and guaranteed monthly status update? That would be a killer USP. The silence between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 was absolutely terrible.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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Yes it sounds great, but it would just make things worse.
People would be exponentially more angry if they gave progress reports and they didn't go where people wanted. They'd complain even more because they'd know it wasn't fixing the way they wanted it to be fixed. And as soon as they promise a timetable and are unable to deliver, all hell would break loose. Either that, or they give a timetable too far in the future to keep from hurting themselves, and people complain the timetable is too far out.
Google and Verizon aren't just sitting on their asses doing nothing. They're working. Its downright insulting saying that Google isn't working hard on these updates. Just be patient ffs.
martonikaj said:
Yes it sounds great, but it would just make things worse.
People would be exponentially more angry if they gave progress reports and they didn't go where people wanted. They'd complain even more because they'd know it wasn't fixing the way they wanted it to be fixed. And as soon as they promise a timetable and are unable to deliver, all hell would break loose. Either that, or they give a timetable too far in the future to keep from hurting themselves, and people complain the timetable is too far out.
Google and Verizon aren't just sitting on their asses doing nothing. They're working. Its downright insulting saying that Google isn't working hard on these updates. Just be patient ffs.
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Agreed. Also with Google (or the manufacturer doing updates) it has to be approved by the carrier UNLESS you're using the GSM model of Galaxy Nexus which is independent of any carrier.
This is from a news article I read yesterday,
“HTC has delivered a ROM to us however it is still having issues the reason that other sensation types have the update without issue and ours did not come out that way is because every ROM must be adapted to the hardware of the device because we use a different radio than other providers and also have applications such as wifi calling it also has to be compatible with those. What the HTC rep told you is most likely correct because once a ROM is delivered we have 2 weeks to test it and then approve it or send it back they then have 4 weeks to fix the bugs and return it back to us, where we are exactly in that process I do not know but that is how a ROM is delivered to the customer.
The original ROM was not delivered to us in November, we started testing it just recently but I think it has been longer than 2 weeks so at this point HTC most likely has the ball.
You bought a phone and it has been announced that you are getting ICS you have every right to know what’s going on with it and when you can see these awesome features. I did go into a lot of detail about how a ROM gets to the end user (you guys) but that wasn’t to point fingers only so you would have a better understanding of why you don’t have it yet, the bottom line is the Sensation has T-Mobile’s and HTC’s name all over it and both companies want to make you proud to be a Sensation owner so we are working as fast as we can to deliver it but also want to make sure that it stands up to your expectations.”
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tl;dr it says that, the ROM that HTC made didn't meet T-Mobile's expectations and has to be fixed by HTC... then sent to T-Mobile to test the ROM equalizing MORE delay
I know OP has Verizon, but that's kind of your fault for using Verizon. We all know how it is when it comes to Verizon and keeping a tight control over their phones. I personally don't consider Galaxy Nexus (LTE) to be a "Nexus" device. It comes bloated with VZW apps, Verizon has to approve the update by Google, Factory images are no longer uploaded, etc.
Kind of off-topic but I'd love to see the idea of Google buying T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom (owners of T-Mobile USA) then we would never have to worry about carriers trying to keep a tight grip on their phones. Not to mention then tight integration between Google services such as Google Voice would be tightly integrated between the carrier and Google services. Just a dream of mines.
Oh lord. Not another 'The Verizon Nexus is not a Nexus device' comment.
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adrynalyne said:
Because...when something goes wrong, and they do not make their timeline, people would throw a fit, even more than they do now.
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But I'm not asking for an eta or timeline. Just something like "here's what we're doing this month, or even this quarter."
adrynalyne said:
Oh lord. Not another 'The Verizon Nexus is not a Nexus device' comment.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
TiltedAz said:
Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
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Ah, my bad
I'm gonna guess the OTA will come with the white 16 gig version on April 5th, and that the white Gnexs will come with 4.0.5 loaded. Just a hunch. The rumors have been early April, so on Thursday or that weekend is my guess.
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but my "fake" Nexus has had 4.0.4 for a long time now. I've seen 2 updates since I bought my Nexus (fairly early after release). Not EVERY update comes via OTA. The Nexus line has ALWAYS been like this. At any rate, my 3 month old "fake and unsupported" Nexus has already seen more updates than my Vibrant ever did.
As far as GSM users complaining over updates, shut up. Your phones didn't need the updates that Google implemented for the CDMA version. I don't want fixes for a phone that isn't mine. I don't want Google releasing something that isn't ready. Radio issues are up to Samsung and the carrier, not Google. Stop whining about Google. Stop thinking Google is the hold up. Google isn't the hold up. Samsung is the hold up. If you have a CDMA version, blame Samsung and Verizon. If you're GSM, place the blame where it largely belongs, on Samsung.
For some reason 80% of people on this forum seem to think that Nexus means that you get an update every month or something like that. Like we should be on 4.1.7 by now or something like that. It's the most insanely retarded community I think I've ever seen in my life.
As a member of the choir and a Verizon customer for12 years
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Keep preaching.
TiltedAz said:
Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
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Verizon is a less-desirable carrier for me. Just sayin'.
boe said:
I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
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and since when do you know about iphone updates before release? Apple is the most secretive tech company ever. They only comment on issues when they get really out of hand and media goes all over it (like the recent address book privacy issues or the better known antennagate).
iOS does have private betas though, which is kinda the equivalent of aosp for android in terms of release schedules. aosp 4.0.4 >>> 8 months >>> oem 4.0.4 updates