I've had the hero for 2.5 years and its really showing its age (CM 6.1 and fast as far as heroes go but still). I'm thinking I should use my upgrade and get the ET4G in the interim while LTE deploys this year and then sell it around Christmas and get the next Nexus or SGS sequel (HD Screen is the big draw) around that time.
What I need to know is:
Is there a better device release date on Sprint that I can look forward to in the next month or two? (gNexus in May/June too far away)
Have there been any revisions to the ET4G hardware/Firmware since release that will affect rooting ? (very important)
Since Lightsquared's LTE network is currently FUBAR, does Sprint still have an alternate LTE development path (Clear)? There's WiMax where I work in Sacramento for the mid term but I don't want to go 2 years without LTE...
If anyone can comment on Sprint vs Tmo in Auburn/Roseville/Sacramento CA please do. ATT is out of the question and VZ still too pricey (trying to keep it mostly unlimited under $90.00)
Thanks!
Some back-story if you care to keep reading...
I actually upgraded to the ET4G in October and had it for two weeks before returning it even though I really liked the device, Sprint's network speed on it was awful (100k-500k at best where my Hero had been getting 700k-1000k+ and faster in town). The rep demo'd another ET4G side by side and it was my device that was faulty so said he would exchange it but I decided to undo the upgrade and chill.
The decision then was to jump carriers to TMo and get the SGS2 there and some 42mbps Love... but I tested that with a friends phone where I live and no dice, especially with all the buyout/restructuring talk going on (AT&Tmo fails < Dish wants Tmo < now ATT wants Dish which wants Tmo) on top of the mediocre reception (foothills above Sacramento) and complaints of many dead zones all around Sacramento/Roseville. Sprints coverage was fine in my experience.
There has been an OTA update to the E4GT since its release, and another is upcoming in the near future.
I didn't play with the original stock rom at all, so I can't comment on D/L speeds, but the first update addressed network issues. The upcoming update is removing CIQ. I can tell you the E4GT loads pages much faster than my old Hero. (My kids phone now).
As for rooting, this device was the easiest that I have ever done. If you can install drivers for your phone and have the ability to read directions, root should be no problem. Subsequent OTA updates shouldn't effect the ability to root if using ODIN.
AFAIK, no other devices are coming down the pipeline sooner than the nexus. The LG Viper is going to be a LTE phone, but no release date has been set.
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I actually upgraded from the hero to the Epic 4g Touch. From personal experience, it's an amazing upgrade. I thought the same thing; should I wait?
Were I in your position, I would wait for the Galaxy Nexus. If that isn't possible, the E4GT is a good upgrade.
As misfit0313 said, there has been an OTA since then. However, this was one of the easiest phones to root with Odin. However, if you're like me and don't have a Windows box to use with Odin, it can be a little bit of a hassle. There's a Linux tool called Heimdall that works wonderfully, though.
There have also been several modem updates to the E4GT. In my opinion, they outperform the stock modem. As far as I know, they don't affect rooting. I got my E4GT 2 months ago or so, and it was rooted in a day.
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I actually upgraded from the hero to the Epic 4g Touch. From personal experience, it's an amazing upgrade. I thought the same thing; should I wait?
Were I in your position, I would wait for the Galaxy Nexus. If that isn't possible, the E4GT is a good upgrade.
As misfit0313 said, there has been an OTA since then. However, this was one of the easiest phones to root with Odin. However, if you're like me and don't have a Windows box to use with Odin, it can be a little bit of a hassle. There's a Linux tool called Heimdall that works wonderfully, though.
There have also been several modem updates to the E4GT. In my opinion, they outperform the stock modem. As far as I know, they don't affect rooting. I got my E4GT 2 months ago or so, and it was rooted in a day.
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Same here, I made the upgrade from Hero to E4GT and love it. It's going to blow your mind how much better it is than our Hero's were. I wish Jaybob and those other guys would come this way as well. His Kernels were amazing!
I actually came from a Blackberry Curve, but before that I had an HTC Hero for Sprint. My god, I must've had the factory test dummy, because I had so many problems on that Hero. Dropped calls, soft reboots, wouldn't receive texts, it was horrible. So bad, in fact, I blamed my hate on Android. Left the Hero for a BBCurve.
Now with the E4GT, it is lightyears beyond theHero, Android actually works, and let me not even get started how much better it is than my Bbcurve.
Just sharing my Hero-hatrid story. Hated it!
I was in your shoes for the longest time as well. I had a great experience with the hero and still miss it on occasion. If you could, I would wait for hopefully the 720p phones to come to sprint. If you can't hold off and don't want to waste your upgrade option, try getting a NS4G/EVO4G used on like swappa. Those both have ICS builds and are way faster than the hero. This was one of the options I had considered, but went for the E4GT when Amazon had it for $79.99 on sale.
Also, if you've had it for 2.5 years, you might have been grandfathered with the no premium data charge like I was. But as soon as you upgrade or swap devices (even used) you'll be hit with the $10 monthly charge. Just something to keep in mind...
Thx for the replies. I was ready to to the sprint store today but then I saw the rumored sgs3 may be announced soon. I need to stop looking at my rss and just get the et4g.
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Thx for the replies. I was ready to to the sprint store today but then I saw the rumored sgs3 may be announced soon. I need to stop looking at my rss and just get the et4g.
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"announced" being one thing, "soon" being another, released in the US on a carrier altogether another.
I've stopped looking at the horizon, knowing full well that there is Always something new there.
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This is where charlie sheen would say, "winning!"
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Any word on a ota for Evo if its coming anytime soon I've searched a lot got no answers please,any help
OTA hasn't even officially come out for the Nexus One. HTC has to port their sense on to it. Best guess is its going to be a few months.
I WISH froyo was coming to the evo in an official update, but that wont happen for months. We will need to rely on XDA to put together a rom for us to use on our rooted phones if we want it sooner.
As others have said, we will never get it before the Nexus does. And a few months? Count on six. At least. And when/if HTC ever gets it to us, it will almost definitely be OTW.
Sprint felt pretty stupid about how long the Hero took, and the Evo is their and HTC's flagship device. I bet we will see it sooner then we did on the Hero, but it will still be a while.
the phone is not even 4 days old and we already have threads about when is the next android OS update?
Can we make a subforum dedicated to just froyo 2.2 rumors, customer service whispers, sprint tech info, leaked documents, tweets, theories and every other worthless bit information and crying users about when its coming that crippled the Hero forums for months so it doesn't waste anyone's time when trying to talk about something that is relevant?
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I don't think anyone here can give a concrete timeline as to when the Evo will get froyo. While I do miss a few things in froyo. I'd much rather see NAND unlocked first.
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the phone is not even 4 days old and we already have threads about when is the next android OS update?
Can we make a subforum dedicated to just froyo 2.2 rumors, customer service whispers, sprint tech info, leaked documents, tweets, theories and every other worthless bit information and crying users about when its coming that crippled the Hero forums for months so it doesn't waste anyone's time when trying to talk about something that is relevant?
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I agree somewhat. But to be fair, this is Sprint's flagship device. They should be doing everything they can to get 2.2 on it as quick as possible. The ball is in Sprint's court if they want to be known as a top carrier in terms of cutting edge. Yes we have the only 4G phone, but to be the 2nd carrier (under T-Mo of course) to have a 2.2 device would strengthen their standings and possibly allow them to acquire more customers that are downtrodden from At&t.
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I agree somewhat. But to be fair, this is Sprint's flagship device. They should be doing everything they can to get 2.2 on it as quick as possible. The ball is in Sprint's court if they want to be known as a top carrier in terms of cutting edge. Yes we have the only 4G phone, but to be the 2nd carrier (under T-Mo of course) to have a 2.2 device would strengthen their standings and possibly allow them to acquire more customers that are downtrodden from At&t.
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I Agree with you they need to work hard which I believe upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 is something doable within 2 weeks again that my guess , they can make their customers happy also iphone 4 is on its way .. give them some hard times
Honestly customers will come to Sprint only they work hard this is soo true currently Ball is in their court do not let it go .. get a news release up asap with 2.2 rolling out date . If I would be Sprint I would do the Press Release for 2.2 Fryo the same Day when Apple was announcing iphone 4.
I am somewhat reconsidering keeping the HTC Incredible. I got a relatively good deal getting the unlimited text, talk, data plan for $70 plus 20% work discount, but now that the CDMA iPhone is here soon, another good option is present. I am not a loyalist to either OS.
Based on rumors/posts...
Is there really a plan to end the Incredible in March 2011?
Will the phone then lose support from VZW?
Also, any word on it getting Gingerbread from HTC? I know a ROM has been made but wondering if something would come OTA.
Are people having trouble rooting, wiping with recently purchased HTC Inc? Is there an easy way to figure out if I have an "unrootable" device?
Freaking unending OS upgrades make not too long ago released handsets potentially old. Ugh.
Thanks,
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Is there really a plan to end the Incredible in March 2011? Rumor
Will the phone then lose support from VZW? Rumor
Also, any word on it getting Gingerbread from HTC? I know a ROM has been made but wondering if something would come OTA. It is quite possible, supposedly the DroidX has a GB OTA coming its way, I feel the INC will too, but thats just IMO
Are people having trouble rooting, wiping with recently purchased HTC Inc? Is there an easy way to figure out if I have an "unrootable" device?
I have heard of very few cases, but most of them are related to user error. I have yet to actually meet someone who was unable to root their INC. Now the EVO is another story.
First you gotta tell me how you got $70 for unlimited talk text and data!!!! lol
Secondly, if you are happy with your phone then why change it, unless you are very tech savvy and need to have the latest greatest phone at all times. I have a 2008 Accord should I change my car just because the 2011 looks SLIGHTLY different, while both get me from point A to point B in the exact same manner with the same reliability?
Thirdly, if you are concerned about the updates and whatnot, then I would suggest rooting your phone. It is scary to first jump the ship but it is so easy and and effortless. You will have the updates before Verizon releases them. You will be able to have so many more/new features of android as well as having NUMEROUS roms to install. I have had my Incredible since launch and whenever I get bored of it I get a new ROM and it feels like a brand new phone all over again! and there are some AMAZING roms out there.
Hope this info helps!
Maybe I'm being impatient but does it seem to anyone else that after the release of this bad boy, we haven't seen too many well known developers bringing custom rom "bad-ass-ness?" Not to knock the developers who HAVE shown up. They're doing a great job. It's just that I really expected the community to go nuts when we finally got this phone and I'm not seeing as much enthusiam as I've seen for other devices.
Any input on this?
Come back in a month or two, I'm sure you'll see a lot more going on.
I gotta say that since owning the Evo 3D and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 that there is a PRETTY good amount of development going on here...Look at the SGT 10.1.. I think as of right NOW the ET4G has more ROMS out and as for the Evo3D..Well it development took about a month or so before it started to pick up so..I guess I'll have to agree to DIS-agree!!..That's what its all about though right..?? Good Topic!!!
eh..it usually takes about a month after launch before development picks up.
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eh..it usually takes about a month after launch before development picks up.
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We should actually pretty thankful for the progress thats already been made. Coming from the evo 3d on launch day, i was waiting weeks for recovery/root having to perma-temp root every time i rebooted my phone. we got root a couple days after the phone released. give it some time. its hard, but it'll come for sure.
i in no way am dissin the devs for the evo 3d, i appreciate everything theyve done for this community and all the time theyve put into helping everyone enjoy their phones to the fullest.
i really hope it does pick up because if this is all we have to look forward to im going back to my epic 4g. this sucks!!!
I agree with OP.
Just being honest.
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maddoggin said:
i really hope it does pick up because if this is all we have to look forward to im going back to my epic 4g. this sucks!!!
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perhaps you should start developing to accelerate it then??
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perhaps you should start developing to accelerate it then??
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Good point. Wish I had more time.
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It took forever for the Sensation to get s-off and then start flashing custom roms.
CM7 slowly made it to the Sensation.
The developers on XDA are the best at what they do no question! You can get spoiled quick on this site.
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eh..it usually takes about a month after launch before development picks up.
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when Evo 4G was released the dev section was flooding with action from day 1.
Agreed. And we all know the epic touch has much more potential
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when Evo 4G was released the dev section was flooding with action from day 1.
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Yeah, but Google had released the device to all IO attendees about a month before release so plenty of developers had it in their hands before the official street date.
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Yeah, but Google had released the device to all IO attendees about a month before release so plenty of developers had it in their hands before the official street date.
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this.
and, remember, the Evo4g was sprint's huuggee flagship that carried android into the next level and into the spotlight so it drew a lot of attention, and, as a result, a lot of devs. also take into consideration that the devs need to have some way to get the device too. some are fortunate to shell out enough to buy it, some might not want it and be holding out for upcoming phones, or some might not be able to afford it (they're dev'ing is volunteer work so they might have other monetary priorities) and are waiting for their contract to end for the discount.
I, for one, would love to start developing. I have the time and im willing to be committed but i would have to start from the bottom and, frankly, its a long way up.
I stated this is another thread: You cant compare the e4gt to the evo 3d from launch day. For a while the evo 3d was locked and wasn't able to flash or get perm root for around a month. The 48 hours after it was unlocked there were at least 10 roms for it. We have been able to flash our e4gt pretty much since day one and it's been what? 2 weeks or so now? There are a lot less roms in those 2 weeks compared to the evo 3d the first 2 weeks it was unlocked and able to flash roms. So it does seem dev is going slower on our e4gt phones. I personally think it's because a lot of devs used upgrades to get the evo 3d and just cant afford to dish out the $500+ for a new one off contract. My guess is it will start to pick up once the price drops and/or used ones start to pop up on ebay/CL and phones are available to devs a little cheaper.
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I stated this is another thread: You cant compare the e4gt to the evo 3d from launch day. For a while the evo 3d was locked and wasn't able to flash or get perm root for around a month. The 48 hours after it was unlocked there were at least 10 roms for it. We have been able to flash our e4gt pretty much since day one and it's been what? 2 weeks or so now? There are a lot less roms in those 2 weeks compared to the evo 3d the first 2 weeks it was unlocked and able to flash roms. So it does seem dev is going slower on our e4gt phones. I personally think it's because a lot of devs used upgrades to get the evo 3d and just cant afford to dish out the $500+ for a new one off contract. My guess is it will start to pick up once the price drops and/or used ones start to pop up on ebay/CL and phones are available to devs a little cheaper.
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There's a lot of factors. The Evo 4g being given to devs a month before release meant that there was root, a stock rom compiled with root (for developers to play with) and various other things BEFORE the phone was released.
Here we don't have a stock rom out for people to play with. We have a stock rom tar and kernel to restore, but we don't have a flashable stock rom for developers to base off of. If anyone wants to build a rom, they have to compile from scratch.
Once we have a stock, rooted Rom, you'll see a lot of themers come out of the woodwork and start messing around.
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There's a lot of factors. The Evo 4g being given to devs a month before release meant that there was root, a stock rom compiled with root (for developers to play with) and various other things BEFORE the phone was released.
Here we don't have a stock rom out for people to play with. We have a stock rom tar and kernel to restore, but we don't have a flashable stock rom for developers to base off of. If anyone wants to build a rom, they have to compile from scratch.
Once we have a stock, rooted Rom, you'll see a lot of themers come out of the woodwork and start messing around.
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Agreed that there are many factors I'm trying to get the deodexed tar to flash but it keeps hanging on me. I've tried multiple times, different cables etc.. it keeps either failing on me or just hanging up. I want the deodexed so I can start converting the theme I did for the evo 3d to our phone
Coming from the MoPho 4G, I'm in heaven here. It doesn't compare to when I had my Evo 4G, but there is still a lot going on. I'm sure in time more devs will show up. It was almost dead in the MoPho forums comparatively which is why I made the switch.
Another factor was a good deal of familiarity with HTC, their file structure and Sense. Many devs (who probably used their upgrades going from OG to 3D) had already played with Sense 3.0 long before the 3D was released. With this phone, gingerbread is not unique but TouchWiz certainly is. Of the custom roms out now, not one has done anything with TW. Not that's it's right or wrong...it's just a new animal. So, as more get the phone, more dabble in TW, etc. I'm certainly this will take off.
What is also nice is the phone was international long before it came to the US. Once people start visiting those forums and start porting we'll have a flood of great stuff.
Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Sarcasm???
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Sarcasm???
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Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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You might be right..
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-israel-says-galaxy-s-ii-ics-update-coming-mar-15
As for all things Samsung, believe it when you see it.
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As for all things SPRINT, believe it when you see it.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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FB27 is just about there. Just a couple more bugs to work out, and it's ready for release.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Preach!! I never left Froyo as my daily on my Epic. There were too many random issues on Gingerbread ...that was before I traded it in for a NS4G. I can't speak for how things are currently
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Lol this is why I hate xda/xda app I try to summarize a point and people look at it in a way that I didnt intend.. But w.e. I didn't mean the keyboard was ths whole reason why the epic 4g got a screwy GB update... Sh%t none of the galaxy s devices had stable gps.. (stock)but the keyboard didnt help... Just like the 3d technology for the evo 3d is being blamed for late ICS update....
The point that got taken away by your love and knowledge for the ugliest (IMO) gs1 is that CARRIERS I feel are to blame for late updates... Without them we would have it sooner and many can agree.. While some can disagree and blame the manufacturer... Or hardware of the phone...
And for the whole development thing? I am simply stating the phone wasnt sought after hence not many developers... Stop reading sh%t that isnt there I never said the developers where garbage.. So relax...
And if you think a keyboard is a + then Ill leave this conversation at that... Lol
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SuperSwagSauce said:
Sarcasm???
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Bazinga....
Bear gri11z said:
Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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I know but when I had my 3d (a month ago now my gf has it)
"they" (media/HTC) said it would be in the first wave of updates wigh the sensation/xe/vivid/rezound? Not sure if all of them where on the list but the sensation/3d variants where... Now its "later this year"
Its sad that last years company who seem to almost avoid major OS updates (Samsung) has picked up that "ball"
While HTC a well know manufacturer who pushes updates out (lagging with source) cant do as much for sprints "flagship" evo 3d (debatable)
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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superbeast0 said:
I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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The LOS issue was never really a Sprint issue per say. While many people argue that fact the fact of the matter is rooted or not rooted the phone had LOS issues out of the box. Sprint didn't really do much network wise to ge the issue fixed it was Samsung pushing out updates that started to fix the problem so I'm pretty sure this can go back to Samsung again not Sprint. Before I ever rooted my SGS2 I had it for a month on stock and while I had 2-3 LOS issues it was nothing that either moving the phone to a different place where it was sitting or just rebooting it didn't fix.
That being said once I did finally root the phone a month after I got it the first few EG30 roms I had massive LOS on each one. While we had a LOS checker and it did help at times there was just no way of getting around it. sadly flashing back to a pure stock rom always fixed the issue however. Move to EK02/EL29 (EK02 mostly) and the LOS was pretty much a done deal and it was gone again this was a Samsung update for modem and software in general which now fixed the problems so I don't see how Sprint is to blame in any of it. Sure they went about it and said they have no reported issues with the phone when there really were issues (LOS mostly which was a huge one for some people) but there was almost nothing Sprint could have done about that other then talk to Samsung and have them fix their software which is what they ended up having to do.
Sweet!
Just a rumor though. Hopefully it's true! And usually Sammobile is very accurate.
**Credit to rwilco12 for finding this**
Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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With our phones, it's not just up to Samsung. Qualcomm (because of CDMA tweaks) and Sprint are also involved in producing the ROMs.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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Sprints s2 aka the epic touch 4g hasn't got jellybean 4.2 yet... i have both phones
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Um ok, GS3 already has jellybean and GS2 has had multiple jellybean leaked roms so we know they are working on it. Keep in mind the cdma GS2 was just released for Boost and Virgin Mobile within the past couple months and has not been put on end of life by sprint yet, so it is still receiving support funding for software updates.
Also if you were familiar with the update life cycle of top tier samsung phones on sprint e.g. The GS1 & GS2 you would see 2 full years of android version upgrades is the norm not the exception. Look for the GS2 to get 4.1.2 and be EOL end of this year, and the GS3 to get its final update next year and EOL end of next year.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Samsung like to update their U.S phones with the latest features after the launch It's newest flagship. So, after the GS4 is available in the US that's when we'll see an update.
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Honestly, as far as Carriers go, I believe Sprint is the best when it comes to OS updates. AT&T probably comes in second. And I'm basing this off carrier-specific phones, not international devices on GSM carriers.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint was bought by Softbank by the way. They have mass amounts of money to spend. And they are not 4th in profits. Basically your whole statement is false. http://allthingsd.com/20130318/hesse-masayoshi-son-met-with-fcc-to-pitch-softbank-sprint-deal/
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I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. Every Galaxy S phone has been updated to two major versions of android.
Galaxy S (eclair) - froyo and gingerbread
GSII (gingerbread) - ICS and jelly bean
It only makes sense that that the gs3 would get the same treatment and be updated to Key Lime Pie when it's only had one major update (jelly bean)
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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Liquid Smooth all the way. No bugs what so ever. Running 4.2.2
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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otterboxfan4l said:
Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I respectfully disagree. After looking at the specs for the s4, I think most people will probably hold out for the S 5. It looks like some minimal hardware upgrades and mostly software upgrades, which I believe the s3 will handle very easily. just my humble opinion though
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We'll have to wait an see. Would rather get one that is tested and none to work then see them push to release one that is buggy.
Hopefully 4.2 comes to the us galaxy s3 none of them got premium suite update feature just the 4.1.2 that's all
It could also be that Samsung, not the carriers, puts the brakes on the S3 in favor of selling (forcing) the S4. Like when Moto stopped supporting the Photon (then a flagship device) within 6 months in order to sell more new "flagship devices" rather than update existing usable consumer products. Consumers who bought into the "latest,greatest" Moto had to offer at the time thinking they would be good for at least a couple years of contract.
It's a double edge sword where someone is going to get cut, no matter if it's from the carrier who doesn't want to spend the money to add their junk, or the manufacture who doesn't want to update "old" products.
With the devices of today, and the power they have, I see the trend moving more and more to the rooting/dev. arena to make existing devices more usable for longer periods of time.
Tech is so far advanced that now, within the terms of a typical 2 year contract, not much can be added to make a consumer justify the cost unless they just HAVE to be "better" than anyone else.
Having said that, the easiest way to continue new sales is to stop developing/supporting "older" devices.